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Rich Vermeesch

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Sep 7, 2001, 5:31:23 AM9/7/01
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I would like to solicit the opinion of the group regarding dust control. I
turn bowls in a small confined space which is half of a converted 2 car
garage. It has only one passage door to the outside and one into the house.
When sanding my pieces I try and catch what I can with a vacuum hose (Filter
Queen), but still end up with dust settling everywhere, lots of it. I am
careful to always wear my dust mask even when not sanding, so that's not a
big issue for me. I would however like to do something to minimize the large
quantities of dust that settles on everything, particularly since I am
stepping up my production a bit. I would appreciate any guidance that the
group could provide on this.

Aloha,
Rich

Bill Brachhold

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Sep 7, 2001, 6:42:20 AM9/7/01
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Rich,

I would suggest that a small dust collector could help you, ESPECIALLY if
you could vent the DC outside. Venting to the outside has two very
important benifits. It gets rid of ALL the very fine dust picked up by the
DC, which usually comes back into the room via the collection and/or filter
bag. And it increase the suction power and flow of the DC by eliminating
the back pressure that the bag gives you. My DC has a lower collection bag
and an upper filter bag. I removed the upper bag and turned a MDF "plug"
to fit the DC and then used a piece of dryer vent hose to the outside.
This made a VAST difference in the suction power of my DC.

NOTE: I can only do this in the spring and fall, meaning when I'm not
running heat or air conditioning in my shop. Else, the DC "empties" the
shop of very "expensive" air in a hurry. If you want more info, contact me
off group.


Bill in Gainesville, Florida, USA
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James R. Shields

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Sep 7, 2001, 9:30:35 AM9/7/01
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If your garage has a window, or if you can cut a hole, mount a 15" to 24"
exhaust fan as close to the right side of the lathe as possible. Make a
small pedestal to place a small room fan to the left of the lathe and at
the height of the lathe. The exhaust fan should be on the side to the back
of your lot. Your neighbors won't notice. My workshop is a bedroom of my
house and I have two exhaust fans in the two windows...dust never gets in
the house. Either way the small fan on the pedestal is a must.
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John Wake

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Sep 7, 2001, 2:01:47 PM9/7/01
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Rich,

I had the same problem. From David Ellsworth - I bought a 20'X20" box
fan from WalMart( $ 10.00 approx. On sale), and a 20"X20" fiberglas
furnace filter and a 3M 20"X20" 1000 Filtrete furnace filter. Using duct
tape I mounted the two filters to the intake side of the fan, ( the 3M
filter closest to the fan). I mounted the fan-filter above my lathe so
that most of the dust is pulled up into the filters. This really cuts
down the amount of dust traveling to the rest of my workspace. I still
wear a dust mask for lung protection. This is a low cost solution.

Fly-by-Night CC

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Sep 7, 2001, 2:50:21 PM9/7/01
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In article <B7BDB7EA.341DB%vermee...@hawaii.rr.com>, Rich Vermeesch
<vermee...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

> I would like to solicit the opinion of the group regarding dust control.

When talking about dust control as opposed to chip & shavings, check out
the air cleaners by Delta, Jet, JDS, etc. ($250 & up) - these are
ceiling hung boxes with a fan inside and filters to clean the air - much
like the homemade unit John Wake told you about.

The problem I see with venting to the outside is that there the air
ejected has to be replaced from outside the building (another window,
doorway or cracks & leaks) and this method will create drafts and get
pretty cold in the winter.

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Richard Stapley

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Sep 7, 2001, 5:17:47 PM9/7/01
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Rich take a look at the Article on Dust Extraction on the LaymarCrafts Site,
Hints n Tips Section this may help.

RVS
http://www.laymar-crafts.co.uk


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Rich Vermeesch

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Sep 8, 2001, 2:32:14 AM9/8/01
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in article onlnlowe-E3593A...@news.easystreet.com, Fly-by-Night
CC at onln...@easystreet.com wrote on 9/7/01 8:50 AM:

> In article <B7BDB7EA.341DB%vermee...@hawaii.rr.com>, Rich Vermeesch
> <vermee...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to solicit the opinion of the group regarding dust control.
>
> When talking about dust control as opposed to chip & shavings, check out
> the air cleaners by Delta, Jet, JDS, etc. ($250 & up) - these are
> ceiling hung boxes with a fan inside and filters to clean the air - much
> like the homemade unit John Wake told you about.
>
> The problem I see with venting to the outside is that there the air
> ejected has to be replaced from outside the building (another window,
> doorway or cracks & leaks) and this method will create drafts and get
> pretty cold in the winter.

Owen,

Good point indeed. However here in Hawaii my shop is rarely cool enough.
Unfortunately, ducting to the outside may be out of the question as I live
in a townhome and have certain aesthetic and common area issues to deal
with. Also, there is at present only one door to the exterior and no
windows. I'm considering taking down the partition wall that was installed
years ago to provide a ground floor room for my ailing in-laws. Perhaps that
would be the best solution. Then I can simply open the garage door and
shoot the dust away with compressed air.
I will also look into the filtration systems you mention.

Rich Vermeesch

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Sep 8, 2001, 2:42:59 AM9/8/01
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in article IKam7.16647$592.2...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com, Richard
Stapley at stapleyr.l...@virgin.net wrote on 9/7/01 11:17 AM:

Richard,
Thanks for the link. This is a very good site with a lot of useful
information. The dust collection article is very well thought out and
explained in great detail. I may invest some "sweat equity" into developing
a similar system for myself.

Rich

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