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J Reiter

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Jan 1, 2001, 11:01:46 AM1/1/01
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Hello all,
I am currently designing my own wine label and am wondering if I can take
my design to a printer and get pre-gummed labels. If not, for those of you
who make your own labels, what has been the best glue to use when applying
label to bottle? What is the easiest to soak off, the least messiest, etc? I
have seen white glue used, but am not impressed with it when soaking a
bottle for re-use.
Best wishes for a prosperous and bountiful vintage new year.
Joanne


Scot Mc Pherson

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Jan 1, 2001, 11:40:24 AM1/1/01
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When I clean bottles from commercial wines I have foudn they use all sorts
of different glue...This being the case I have determined that the job will
be aweful regardless (not that it really will, just get in that mindset so
you're not disappointed). I set my bottles outside overnight...The dew soaks
the label very thoroughly. Take out my 1 inch scraping knife and
begin...Then I use a scotchbright pad to take off any residual glue or
material...Takes about an hour's worth of scraping and scrubbing for 25
bottles. Once its done, I use top tags in my cellar, and no longer use
labels. I personally think presenting a wine unlabeled adds to its home made
appearance and also lets the recipient ask, "hey what's this?" I tell them
to try it, then I will tell them what it is.

Scot Mc Pherson

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Jack Webb

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Jan 1, 2001, 11:59:23 AM1/1/01
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Plain White, Pre-Gummed Paper.

Just wipe with a wet sponge then apply.

Soaks off with no residue.


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Paul E. Lehmann

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Jan 1, 2001, 12:19:37 PM1/1/01
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I have found that milk is the best glue. Just spray a protective coating on
the label first and then use a sponge or small brush to put the milk on the
back of the label.

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peli...@swbell.net

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Jan 1, 2001, 1:12:30 PM1/1/01
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After cleaning hundreds of bottles, it has become a priority to use
glue that will "release" the label easily. I make my own labels on my
computer and print out withe 8 labels per page. After cutting them
out, the hard part, I glue them on using a stick type glue. It isn't
too messy and when you later are cleaning the bottles to reuse, it
comes off extremely easy with water and no residue. I can't offhand
remember the name of the glue, but have used several names with same
result.

Tom


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Bill Baker

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Jan 1, 2001, 5:22:04 PM1/1/01
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Jack,
Where do you get Pre-Gummed Paper?
Are they letter size, (8 1/2 x 11,) and can they be used in an ink jet printer?
Bill

Jack Webb

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Jan 1, 2001, 7:48:51 PM1/1/01
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I get them from either "Bacchus & Barleycorn" or "Grape and Granary"
and yes, they are 8 1/2 x 11 and come 18 sheets per pack.
The same sites also will sell you some software to easily utilize
same.

http://www.bacchus-barleycorn.com/
http://www.grapeandgranary.com/

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Shawn Gibbs

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Jan 1, 2001, 10:26:22 PM1/1/01
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In article <Yp246.140927$65.11...@news1.rdc1.fl.home.com>, "Scot Mc Pherson"
<behomet@hom_e.com> writes:

>I use top tags in my cellar

What's a top tag?

Shawn

Britt Smith

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Jan 1, 2001, 10:36:33 PM1/1/01
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It's a tag that hooks over the bottle. It's used so you can read the
information on it when the bottles are on in the wine rack.
That way you don't have to keep pulling the bottles out to see what they
are.

Britt

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J Reiter

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Jan 1, 2001, 11:17:53 PM1/1/01
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Scot,
dew? What's dew? I never seen that stuff here, in New Mexico. I _know_ I
saw it when I lived in New York. Hmmmmm. The only 'do' we have in New Mexico
is what the neighbor's dog leaves on your front yard. :v( Oh well. At any
rate, from the replies it would appear that a glue stick seems the best bet
and the easiest to soak off for my particular situation.
Joanne
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Shawn Gibbs

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Jan 2, 2001, 12:26:14 AM1/2/01
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In article <22c46.1030$xo3.2...@homer.alpha.net>, "Britt Smith"
<br...@danet.net> writes:

>It's a tag that hooks over the bottle. It's used so you can read the
>information on it when the bottles are on in the wine rack.
>That way you don't have to keep pulling the bottles out to see what they
>are.
>

Thanks! I generally don't label unless it's for a gift but I'm (finally)
getting enough inventory that top tags sound like the ideal solution for me to
avoid confusion.

Shawn

Erik Joramo

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Jan 2, 2001, 4:41:36 PM1/2/01
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my particular favorite is Mulsum or mucilage i can't spell it since i don't have
a bottle right now it is orangish amber color and has a rubber top with a slit
on it . i found that when you soak the bottles after use the glue dissolves and
the label comes off effortlessly.check in the school supplies.
Erik Joramo

Michiel P.

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Jan 3, 2001, 8:53:14 AM1/3/01
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I use a PRITT glue-stick for attaching labels for wine bottles, it is
water-dissolvable, so with some warm water, they come off real easy. No
troublesome residues, one wipe with the same warm water, and it's all gone.
I've also seen glue-sticks of the brand UHU, which work equally well.

Good luck!

Michiel Pesgens
The Home Winemaking Page
http://www.geocities.com/mipeman

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Jack Webb

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Jan 3, 2001, 9:13:22 PM1/3/01
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To all those that believe that liquid/stick glue is easy, I send
you this link.

Make any type of label you want, then just cut, wet and apply.

http://www.cpostores.com/grapeandgranary/browse.html?pid=8374&step=4


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peli...@swbell.net

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Jan 4, 2001, 2:00:16 AM1/4/01
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> To all those that believe that liquid/stick glue is easy, I send
> you this link.
>
> Make any type of label you want, then just cut, wet and apply.
>
> http://www.cpostores.com/grapeandgranary/browse.html?pid=8374&step=4
>

> I think you may have missed the point. The problem isn't with
putting labels on the bottle, its getting them off later. I have tried
several different types of pregummed labels. They do go on easy, but
can be a real pain getting them off. Not as bad as those clear labels
on some commercial wines, nothing takes them off. I have even tried
razor blades and that is not even very effective.

Glen Duff

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Jan 4, 2001, 6:47:07 AM1/4/01
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Joanne,

I use a glue stick which is easily applied and the glue is water soluble which
should be your main consideration. Any excess can easily be wiped off the
bottle with a wet towel and the labels will be very easy to remove. I simply
place the bottles in water for a few minutes and the labels float off.

Good luck,

Glen Duff
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Jack Webb

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Jan 4, 2001, 7:21:22 AM1/4/01
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I think You miss My point.
These drop off the bottle after just a gentle soak.

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Chad Harvey

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Jan 4, 2001, 9:26:59 AM1/4/01
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Tom:

I am sorry but I believe you missed the point of the original post.
The question was about the "best" glue to use to apply the labels,
and/or were pre-gummed labels were available. As to the second point
of the question about removing labels, I would point you the the post:

http://x54.deja.com/getdoc.xp?
AN=648487406&CONTEXT=978618289.1934098445&hitnum=10

This thread explains a "remarkable" breakthrough in label removal. A
quick search of the newsgroup would have given you this information.

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peli...@my-deja.com

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Jan 4, 2001, 10:13:29 AM1/4/01
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> I think You miss My point.
> These drop off the bottle after just a gentle soak.
>
You never said that in the above post.
Neither does the link when I went to it.

peli...@swbell.net

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Jan 4, 2001, 10:22:41 AM1/4/01
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>
> I am sorry but I believe you missed the point of the original post.
> The question was about the "best" glue to use to apply the labels,
> and/or were pre-gummed labels were available.

As to the above, ok, I concede that the original post was about more
than just about the best glue to use and also asked about pregummed
paper. I was only stating what experiences "I" have had with pregummed
paper.

As to the second point
> of the question about removing labels, I would point you the the post:
>
> http://x54.deja.com/getdoc.xp?
> AN=648487406&CONTEXT=978618289.1934098445&hitnum=10
>
> This thread explains a "remarkable" breakthrough in label removal. A
> quick search of the newsgroup would have given you this information.
>

> I tried to enter the link you posted above, but it only displayed
a "page not available".

J Reiter

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Jan 5, 2001, 9:19:21 AM1/5/01
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Hey guys!
I am sitting here, glue stick in hand, and hoping that you guys don't
come to clashes on this thread. As to the quickest, effective,
least-messiest-when soaking-off-the-bottle, easily available, and
bang-for-the-buck glue, it would appear that the glue stick wins. Web sites
are nice, but it adds another hoop to go through when trying to find
something without a lot of fuss (but thank you anyways -it was nice of you).
Color copies are now down to 99 cents a sheet which makes designing your
own label an attractive little project. I can fit 6 labels on one 8 1/2 x
11" sheet. steady hands, an exacto knife, clip art letters and pictures help
make interesting labels. I got lots of curious looks at the copy center, and
a few compliments, too.
Joanne

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Chad Harvey

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Jan 6, 2001, 11:36:34 AM1/6/01
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Personally I use a glue stick. The glue is water soluable so it makes
for easy removal. I read a post a while back from a gentleman that
described his process which consisted of spraying his labels with a
clear coat acrylic and then applying with a glue stick. I have been
folowing this process for a while and have been pleased with the
results. Hope this helps.

Chad

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Randall Wright

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Jan 7, 2001, 10:43:50 AM1/7/01
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Hello all. My first post here.

Here's an idea I haven't tried: band labels. Wrap them all the way around
the bottle and glue the ends, and maybe just a dab of glue to hold it on
the bottle. You could squeeze 8 1x11" of them out of regular sheet of paper
if you don't get too fancy or 4 2x11" if you want a little more room. And
you get a backside too.

Randy


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<jmre...@gte.net> wrote:

- Hello all,
- I am currently designing my own wine label and am wondering if I can take
- my design to a printer and get pre-gummed labels. If not, for those of you
- who make your own labels, what has been the best glue to use when applying
- label to bottle? What is the easiest to soak off, the least messiest, etc? I
- have seen white glue used, but am not impressed with it when soaking a
- bottle for re-use.
- Best wishes for a prosperous and bountiful vintage new year.
- Joanne

Jack Webb

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Jan 7, 2001, 4:33:39 PM1/7/01
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Now there is a great idea. I think I'll use it
for my *green bean* wine.
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