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Lilac Wine Poisonous?

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andiez

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May 23, 2001, 10:01:07 PM5/23/01
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I'm making a small test batch of lilac wine, but I just ran across a note in
C.J.J. Berry's "First Steps in Winemaking", that claims it is poisonous.
Has anyone tried it without dying?


l

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May 24, 2001, 4:20:32 PM5/24/01
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Hmmm, saw that too and wondered whether the songwriter who immortalised
Lilac Wine had a nasty sense of humour - hear it, brew it and die of it,
perhaps? A friend of mine made a perfectly reasonable Buddhlia (spelling?)
wine but that's the nearest I've come across to Lilac.

K

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Pelikans

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May 25, 2001, 4:18:44 AM5/25/01
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"andiez" <and...@banet.net> wrote in message news:<DXZO6.2477$xM2.1...@typhoon2.ba-dsg.net>...

> Has anyone tried it without dying?

Are you really waiting for someone to say they have tried it and died?

Tom

Trevor A Panther

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May 25, 2001, 11:13:04 AM5/25/01
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Here is my list of Poisonous plants from which wine should NOT be made!!!!!!

Foxglove, Lily of the Valley, Yew berries, Horse Chestnut, Poppies, Common
privet,
Cyclamen, Bryony, green potatoes, Buttercups, Bluebells, LILAC, All the
nightshades, Marsh Marigold, Honeysuckle, Narcissus family ( including
daffodils ), Hyacinth, Common broom, Monkshood, Wood Anemone, Sweet pea,
Laburnum, Rhododendrons, Delphinium, Clematis, Verbena, Thorn apple.

I do remember when I was living in the Sultanate of Oman several years ago,
when at a very expensive dinner in the Intercontinrntal Hotel ( being paid
for by a departing expat friend ) 8 of us cleared everything that was put in
front of us and drank a couple of cases exceedingly expensive wine and
finished eating the fresh Daffodils dipped in mayonaise. I dont recall any
ill effects but I suppose we were well enough soused to be immune to further
poison!

Basically I would follow the principal that if you cannot find a recipe for
a wine using a particular ingredient --- then dont make it!

--
From Trevor A Panther
In South Yorkshire,
England


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> Hmmm, saw that too and wondered whether the songwriter who immortalised
> Lilac Wine had a nasty sense of humour - hear it, brew it and die of it,

> <snip> <snip>


andiez

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May 25, 2001, 10:56:19 PM5/25/01
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Why not?

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Kay Sexton

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May 26, 2001, 4:36:29 AM5/26/01
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Daffodil bulbs can be eaten, if you are suicidally stupid and fancy the not
very good odds that they may prove hallucogenic before the very good odds
they prove to be toxic to your gut. But if you roast them, grind them and
use them for flour they are fine - useless information from a friendly
anthropologist I just happen to know. The point being that treatment can
neutralise some toxic elements in plants but who wants to be the
experimental victim? - as Trevor says - if no-one has lived long enough to
write down a recipe then that may be the answer!

K

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Jack Keller

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Jun 4, 2001, 3:53:39 PM6/4/01
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Trevor, et al. I don't know where your got your list of poisonous
plants, but it differs substantially from mine in several respects
(lilacs, honesuckle, broom, and thorn apple [hawthorn variety, not
jimsonweed] all jump to mind).

For many years, I also had lilacs on my toxic (not poisonous) list.
Then I received an email from a fellow who questioned my list and
forwarded to me three emails from three different Poison Control
Centers, all of which said lilacs were not toxic. I verified one of
the emails and then accepted the other two as redundant confirmation.
Only then did I make and post recipes for lilac wines.

I now have several books on common toxic plants and several on common
edible plants which I use religiously in making wines from the wilds.
There ARE conflicts among them (May Apple is listed as both edible and
toxic, for example, and at least three varieties of elderberry are
toxic), but 99% of the time they all agree. I recommend a similar
library to anyone, and have even listed helpful books of both types at
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/booklist.asp.

Jack Keller, The Winemaking Home Page
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/index.asp

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