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Samantha Purcell

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Mar 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/31/96
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Hi!

I'm a beginner knitter and have made it to the sleeve section of a
jumper pattern I am knitting and am stuck.

My first problem is, I don't know what a garter stich is and the
pattern requires 6 rows of it! I realise this may be a bit difficult
to explain with email but anything you say would be a help! I am
trying to locate a good knitter in my local area but thought I would
give this mail group a go.

My second problem is the sleeve pattern reads:

7th row: KO 2, PO 2, (K4, P2) twice, K8, (P2,K4) 4 times etc

and I have no idea what KO and PO stand for. Knitt what and Purl
what?

Any ideas would be appreciated. The pattern is a Bendigo Wollen Mills
(Australia) 8 Ply (Worsted Weight) Aran Jumper Pattern LM 801.

Thanking you in advance!

Samantha

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Pauline Esther Grunwald Refaat

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Apr 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/1/96
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Sounds like you've got an ambitious pattern for a beginner!
Garter stitch is easy - it just means to knit every row.
As far as KO and PO is concerned, I have no idea. Many patterns have a
guide to abbreviations. Are you sure their is no such guide in your
pattern?
Maybe someone else out there has heard of KO & PO.
Good luck!
Pauline

Mary Chartrand

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Apr 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/2/96
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Samantha, I would interpret KO and PO to mean bring the wool around
the needle: KO, knitwise and PO, purlwise. Then knit or purl whatever
number of stitches the pattern calls for. By wrapping the wool around
your needle you gain a stitch. Since you are knitting a sleeve, I
would assume from your description of the instructions that you
should be increasing the number of stitches on your needle to give
shape to the sleeve. Hope I'm correct and haven't confused you
further. Good luck with your pattern and don't despair. The best
knitters are the fastest "ripper outers". Once you've mastered
ripping out and starting over, you've got it beat!
Mary

Your Name

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Apr 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/3/96
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Garter stitch is simply knitting every row
As for the other, special abbreviations are usually at the very beginning
of the pattern. If it isn't there, try taking the work in progress to
the yarn store where you bought it, or many stores will provide special
assisatance for a naminal fee.
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Barbara Drewette

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Apr 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/3/96
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KO means "knit on" and it is a method of casting on stitches at
the end of a row. Insert the needle in the first stitch on lefthand
needle (assuming you are right handed) and cast the yarn over as
usual, draw through as usual. Difference: instead of dropping off
the stitch you have just knit into, you slip the stitch on the right
hand needle thereby adding it to the row. Continue until you have
knit on all the stitches your pattern requires.

This is used for adding dolman sleeves to the body of a sweater, and
plackets at neck openings (on polo style sweaters, etc.).

I assume PO means purl on, but I have never tried it, but presumably
is done the same way. You purl the stitch, but don't slip it off, and
slip the new stitch back to the lefthand needle.

If your pattern is a leaflet or book from a yarn company, there should
be a list of abbreviations someplace. Most books put the abbreviations
and basic knitting instructions in a section at the beginning or end of
the book. Most knitting magazines will also have abbreviations, check
the table of contents near the beginning.

I have found, however, that a pattern which uses a more unusual
abbreviation, may not be included in the more general, basic list that the
magazine provides. Had this problem once with a sweater design in Fashion
Knitting. The abbreviation in the pattern simply wasn't included in the
list and, although I am an experienced knitter, I just couldn't figure it
out. Gave up. Haven't bought Fashion Knitting since.

: As far as KO and PO is concerned, I have no idea. Many patterns have a
: Maybe someone else out there has heard of KO & PO.

Have fun.
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Barbara D.
bdre...@freenet.npiec.on.ca
bdre...@oise.on.ca


Bonnie Smith

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Apr 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/5/96
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Hi Samantha,

I think I can solve your problem. I believe that K0 2, P0 2 means
knit zero for the smaller size or knit 2 for the larger size. The
same applies to P0 2, meaning purl zero for the smaller size, purl 2
for the larger size. In other words, if you're making the smaller
size start the row with (K4,P2) twice and disregard the K0 2, PO 2.
If you're making the larger size start the row with K2, P2 then
(K4,P2) twice.

The garter stitch is just the "technical" name for knit every row. So
don't purl on the "wrong" side. Just knit each row for the number or
rows specified.

I hope this helps.

Bonnie
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None Redmond

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Apr 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/5/96
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Hallo Samantha :
I don't know how long your anguished plea has been in the newsgroup - nor
if you have had replies - by now you may have given up on your sleeve and
cast it in a dark cupboard. But if you are still interested the first
part of your question is easy.
Garter stitch is every row plain knit knitting (on two needles) so that
both sides of the cloth are the same with nice horizontal rows running
the width. If you are using 4 or 5 needles and knitting in the round,
then garter stitch is one round knit and the next round purl. Just so you
get the horizontal ridges. It's a good stitch for beginning edges as it
doesn't curl.
You may come across stocking stitch or stockinette stitch - this is when
ontwo needles you knit one row knit and the next row purl and alternate.
If you are knitting in the round as when making a pair of stockings, you
knit every row knit and all the ridges are on the inner side of the work
and the outside is smooth.
For the mysterious ko and po, can you tell by looking at the picture ? Or
is there an index of abbreviations for stitches - there usually is - on
the pattern. If not I'd advise you to go back to the store where you
bought the pattern or the wool and ask them.
Good luck. None


Droido

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Apr 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/8/96
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To clarify a prior post on garter stitch:

Garter stitch is knitting every row IF you are knitting back and forth. If you
are knitting in the round, you knit 1 row, then purl 1 row.

This contrasts with stockinette stitch (or stocking stitch, in UK terms I
think), where you knit the right side rows and purl the wrong side rows, so
that the right side is all the v-shaped knit stitches, and the wrong side is
all the "staggered dash" purl stitches. If you're knitting in the round (and
you knit right side out), you just knit all the rows.

There should be a definition of abbreviations in the pattern somewhere to
explain KO and PO (knit over? purl over?). But if you can get an experienced
knitter to look at the pattern, that's the best thing. It could be a typo or
something, too. Patterns aren't perfect.

Good luck, and welcome to the wonderful world of fiber arts,
Andrea
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If you are waiting for something to happen you already missed the point.


Cheryl Pinkerton

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Apr 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/11/96
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On Sun, 31 Mar 1996 7:02:00, Samantha Purcell
<pur...@rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk> wrote:

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>I'm a beginner knitter and have made it to the sleeve section of a
>jumper pattern I am knitting and am stuck.
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>My second problem is the sleeve pattern reads:
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>7th row: KO 2, PO 2, (K4, P2) twice, K8, (P2,K4) 4 times etc
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>and I have no idea what KO and PO stand for. Knitt what and Purl
>what?
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>hi, Samantha,
You have already received the garter and stockinette stitch
explanations.
Here's a new twist on Your sleeve pattern questions.
If the photo of your finished jumper has any type of openwork or
elongated lace stiches on that part of the sleeve,try this as an
interpretation:
KO2 could mean a yarn-over stitch (YO) , with the working yarn wrapped
around the right-hand needle twice, in a knit-wise direction.
Conversely, PO2 could be a yarn-over stitch executed with the yarn
originating behind the right needle and wrapped tiwice, as if to purl.
I hope this isn't too absurd.... the other hints are more feasible,
but just in case............
Congratulations on progressing so well on your first sweater! May it
give you warmth from both within and out.
Happy knitting!
cheryl


Cheryl Pinkerton

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Apr 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/11/96
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On Sun, 31 Mar 1996 7:02:00, Samantha Purcell
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>I'm a beginner knitter and have made it to the sleeve section of a
>jumper pattern I am knitting and am stuck.
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>
>My second problem is the sleeve pattern reads:
>
>7th row: KO 2, PO 2, (K4, P2) twice, K8, (P2,K4) 4 times etc
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>and I have no idea what KO and PO stand for. Knitt what and Purl
>what?
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>Hi, Samantha,
I see You have the garter and stockinette stitches explained to You
already.
For what it's worth, I have another twist on the "mystery" directions
for the sleeve.
If the photo of your finished jumper shows an openwork or lacey
texture at this spot on the sleeves, consider this:
KO2 could be read as a yarn-over stitch (generally denoted as" YO"),
with the working yarn thrown over the right-hand needle in a knit-wise
direction( originationg from the back of the needle) , and wrapped
twice for an elongated open work stitch.
Conversely, the PO2 could again be a yarn-over; this time with the
yarn wrapped from in front of the needle, twice, purl-wise, to
complete one stitch.
The other replies seem to make more sense, but just in case, I thought
You may want to try an absurd experiment, if the others aren't
solving the problem.
Congratulations on progressing so well on your first sweater. May it
give you much warmth, from within and out.

Hope this helped....Cheryl

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