(W) Sticky warp -- help?
Lynne Ann Morse
fuzzy. While making it into a warp chain, I noticed the threads *really*
like to stick to one another.
I'm going to weave it up on a backstrap loom. I hope to do (uh, quick
calculation from metric to American...) 10 epi (I *think* that's 4 ends
per centimeter), making 2 shawls from the same warp, 35 cm wide and 150
cm long. (Let's see -- oh, heck call it 29 inches wide and something
more than a yard and a half long...)
Right now, though, I've got a warp chain, and my question is -- what
nice weaver's trick can someone here give me to encourage the warp to be
less sticky? A trick that hopefully washes out and let the yarn return
to its beautiful fuzziness once I've washed the final products? A dip in
a corn starch bath, maybe?
Oh, and I'm thinking that if I use cotton thread for my heddles on the
backstrap, I'm going to have to clean them every 3 picks or so. Bleh, no
fun at all. My thought on this is to use fishing line for the heddles,
and hope that doesn't end up cutting the warp thread. (The yarn isn't
*terribly* delicate, but...)
Thanks bunch in advance for your responses to this rambling note. If you
don't mind, why not reply to me here in the newsgroup? Not that I
*don't* like mail, but I always find it fun if others get to react to
the first proposed solutions to a question like this.
Thanks again,
Lynne Ann
mors...@simplex.nl
Lynne Ann Morse
Lynne Ann Morse (mors...@Simplex.simplex.nl) wrote:
(snip, for brevity...)
: I'm going to weave it up on a backstrap loom. I hope to do (uh, quick
: calculation from metric to American...) 10 epi (I *think* that's 4 ends
: per centimeter), making 2 shawls from the same warp, 35 cm wide and 150
: cm long. (Let's see -- oh, heck call it 29 inches wide and something
: more than a yard and a half long...)
Oooh, ouch! Can't add while I'm on-line -- distracted too much by those
fleeing seconds of connect time. Please excuse: 35 cm really is only
about 14 inches, not 29. Ugh. I'm going to need those scarves just to
cover my embarrassed blush...
Lynne Ann
mors...@simplex.nl
marie payne
One solution I have used in the past, was to spray the warp with hair
spray which washes out easily later. Good luck!! Hope you have lots
of patience.
marie
Norah Shrubb
: fuzzy. While making it into a warp chain, I noticed the threads *really*
: like to stick to one another.
: I'm going to weave it up on a backstrap loom. I hope to do (uh, quick
: calculation from metric to American...) 10 epi (I *think* that's 4 ends
: per centimeter), making 2 shawls from the same warp, 35 cm wide and 150
: cm long. (Let's see -- oh, heck call it 29 inches wide and something
: more than a yard and a half long...)
: Right now, though, I've got a warp chain, and my question is -- what
: nice weaver's trick can someone here give me to encourage the warp to be
: less sticky? A trick that hopefully washes out and let the yarn return
: to its beautiful fuzziness once I've washed the final products? A dip in
: a corn starch bath, maybe?
: Oh, and I'm thinking that if I use cotton thread for my heddles on the
: backstrap, I'm going to have to clean them every 3 picks or so. Bleh, no
: fun at all. My thought on this is to use fishing line for the heddles,
: and hope that doesn't end up cutting the warp thread. (The yarn isn't
: *terribly* delicate, but...)
: Thanks bunch in advance for your responses to this rambling note. If you
: don't mind, why not reply to me here in the newsgroup? Not that I
: *don't* like mail, but I always find it fun if others get to react to
: the first proposed solutions to a question like this.
: Thanks again,
: Lynne Ann
: mors...@simplex.nl
--
"Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to
find, and not to yield."
Birute Prasauskas
that was sticking to each other. birute
Noeline McCaughan
: Okay, I got this beautifully colored, albeit synthetic yarn, rather
: fuzzy. While making it into a warp chain, I noticed the threads *really*
: like to stick to one another.
Hmm, you *do* make life difficult for yourself don't you? :-)
The only really effective way to deal with this yarn will be to size it
as soon as you have wound the warp. Stretch it out flat and wet it with a
thin starch mix and then comb it out smooth. Allow to dry then beam and
weave as usual. Stay with the cotton heddles, they will be kinder to your
yarn. I try and avoid really fuzzy warps because they are such a trial to
my patience, what I tend to do is warp with a matching relatively smooth
yarn and weave with the fuzzy.
: Thanks bunch in advance for your responses to this rambling note. If you
: don't mind, why not reply to me here in the newsgroup? Not that I
: *don't* like mail, but I always find it fun if others get to react to
: the first proposed solutions to a question like this.
Them's my sentiments too. I've been having a look at the weave-list and
there is nothing going on there that couldn't have been said here in the
first place.
Please let us know how you cope with this one, even if it ends up as the
warp from Hell and gets consigned to the cushion stuffings box.
Noeline
SarahS4151
i am in the midst of this war myself, should have known better.
mohair, don't ya know
and i have ignored it on the loom since before christmas, doing other
projects, giving it a dirty look as i pass and wondering if i didn't hear
once to spray on sizing or hairspray.
onwards to conquer
sarah
voice from the wilderness...
the goats want to be milked
sarah
as far west as the internet gets on the continental u s
Clark Johnston
>
>Okay, I got this beautifully colored, albeit synthetic yarn, rather
>fuzzy. While making it into a warp chain, I noticed the threads *really*
>like to stick to one another.
>
Okay. Here's your solution. Go to your weaving store and purchase
a can of Clerco. This you paint onto your warp with a paintbrush. It works
just great. If you can't get some of this, try getting some of the hair
conditioner that they use on African-American hair. This was a tip from
the Weaving List after I suggested Clerco. The problem with Clerco is
getting it. If you're from Canada, you might have a better chance. It is
truly great stuff, particularly for sticky warps.
Good luck,
Annette Johnston
Lynne Ann Morse
: In article <4c2qv7$7...@news.simplex.nl>, mors...@Simplex.simplex.nl says...
: >
: >Okay, I got this beautifully colored, albeit synthetic yarn, rather
: >fuzzy. While making it into a warp chain, I noticed the threads *really*
: >like to stick to one another.
: >
: Hi Lynne Anne:
: Okay. Here's your solution. Go to your weaving store and purchase
: a can of Clerco. This you paint onto your warp with a paintbrush.
Good for the next trip to the US, but I'm in the Netherlands at the
moment.
It works
: just great. If you can't get some of this, try getting some of the hair
: conditioner that they use on African-American hair.
Ah ha!! Well, now this white-woman can wander into the specialist hair
salons asking for this product. ;) Oughta be fun!
: This was a tip from
: the Weaving List after I suggested Clerco.
The Weaving list is just great, especially for this sort of sharing,
aren't they?
: The problem with Clerco is
: getting it. If you're from Canada, you might have a better chance. It is
: truly great stuff, particularly for sticky warps.
I will have to remember that. Right now, the warp is very close to
calling my true name, so I may just employ the primitive method (and
tell you all about it afterwards) of dipping it in a corn-starch
solution. My guess is 1/3 of a tablespoon to a liter of water? (No, no
conversions today, sorry!)
: Good luck,
: Annette Johnston
Thank you, Annette! See you around!
Lynne Ann
mors...@simplex.nl
Spinfiber
of fibers and I checked each textured strand to be sure it would pass
through my heddles. Then, being a fairly good direction follower, I sized
the warp with a glue sizing, threaded it through the reed, and discovered
the sized texture now would not go through the heddles. After much
frustration, I took the warp off, washed out the sizing, and used it as
the weft on a smooth warp. I now have two loverly afghans to give my
granddaughters.
Also from the far west, Dianne, N. California
PS my loom is folded up and will stay that way for awhile.
Noeline McCaughan
: Right now, the warp is very close to
: calling my true name, so I may just employ the primitive method (and
: tell you all about it afterwards) of dipping it in a corn-starch
: solution. My guess is 1/3 of a tablespoon to a liter of water? (No, no
: conversions today, sorry!)
Given that one has to pay out money for the fancy stuff for dressing
sticky warps I would go for the good old tried and true cornstarch. None
of the commercially made preparations work any better than it does, their
only supposed advantage is that one doesn't have to stand at the stove
cooking them up.
Go for it and good luck.
Noeline
Lynne Ann Morse
Uh oh,... *cooking*?! I was just thinking of mixing it cold and dipping
the warp. If you do recommend some cooking, would you be willing to part
with a recipe, using those ingredients most likely to be found in a
normal, ordinary kitchen?
: Go for it and good luck.
Thank you, Noeline -- I'm always encouraged by your posts!
Bye for now,
Lynne Ann
mors...@simplex.nl
Noeline McCaughan
: Uh oh,... *cooking*?! I was just thinking of mixing it cold and dipping
: the warp. If you do recommend some cooking, would you be willing to part
: with a recipe, using those ingredients most likely to be found in a
: normal, ordinary kitchen?
It is easily done in a microwave oven, I mix two teaspoons of cornstarch
with one and a quarter cups of water and cook for three minutes at full
power or until it clears. Cooking conventionally on a stove consists of
stirring the cornstarch with a little water in a saucepan and then adding
the remainder and cooking (stirring meanwhile) until it boils and the
mixture is transparent. The resulting goo should be like very runny pouring
custard - another way to describe it would be like a heavy syrup - not
goppy in blobs, it can be thinned down with more hot water if necessary.
Brush or sponge it on when it is cold and use a coarse comb to separate the
threads of your warp. The warp only needs to be dampened, don't saturate it
with the size. Dry thoroughly before beaming and weaving.
Another size can be made by dissolving a heaped teaspoon of powdered
gelatine in a pint of boiling hot water and using as above. The only thing
here is that it must be woven within a few days or otherwise it can go
"off" :-).
Both these sizes will wash out in warm or cold water. That is: when your
weaving is done, give it a thorough rinse to remove the size and then
proceed with the usual fulling method for the fabric.
Have fun,
Noeline.
Lynne Ann Morse
: Lynne Ann Morse (mors...@Simplex.simplex.nl) wrote:
: : Uh oh,... *cooking*?! I was just thinking of mixing it cold and dipping
: : the warp. If you do recommend some cooking, would you be willing to part
: : with a recipe, using those ingredients most likely to be found in a
: : normal, ordinary kitchen?
: It is easily done in a microwave oven, I mix two teaspoons of cornstarch
: with one and a quarter cups of water and cook for three minutes at full
: power or until it clears.
(etc. Clip, clip, clip...)
Hey, great! Thanks and I'll get on it Real Soon Now (pout, I've got too
much going on here! And I didn't *mean* to! But, hey, that's real life
intruding, sorry.)
Bye for now, thanks again.
Lynne Ann
mors...@simplex.nl