REC on Pfaff 1214
Anitha Tellakula
I found a used Pfaff 1214 sewing machine on sale for $250 dollars.
The machine is in very good condition with manuals.
Has anyone used a Pfaff 1214 and have any good/bad experiences with it?
Is it worth to spend 250 dollars on this machine or buy a brand
new Singer or Kenmore in that price?
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Anitha
Chris and Brenda Jarvis
Do know about new singers. I bought a new singer about three years ago
and could not keep the thing in a useful state. The problem is that I
tend to do a lot of sewing in a short period of time and the plastic
innards could not take the heat. Literally. The plastic parts would
overheat, get out of sync and then I could not get the tension to
stabilize. In the same 5 inch seam, I would have 4-6 different stitch
lengths. Without touching the tension knob. So not good. However, my
mother has exactly the same machine that she uses occasionally and it
works perfectly for her.
I guess that the answer to your question depends on your intended level
of use. If you are doing a lot of sewing, a machine with all metal parts
is a must. For occasional use, any new singer/kenmore will work.
Brenda Jarvis
Sally Holmes
Chris and Brenda Jarvis <bcja...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> If you are doing a lot of sewing, a machine with all metal parts
> is a must.
This is a half-truth put about by people who sell all-metal-innards
machines.
Cheap plastic is awful. High-quality nylon, however, wears as well as
metal and doesn't need lubricating. It's lighter, too. But it ain't
cheap.
--
Sally Holmes
Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England
miste...@mindspring.com
I treasure it. Mine was dropped and damaged when we moved but it can still
sew a very nice-looking stitch. It's on loan to a neighbor right now because
her SM was out for repair. Is there any way you could persuade the seller to
let you try it out? Polly
"Anitha Tellakula" <ani...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message
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And I do pity the beginner, who takes this as bible, and tries to find
an all-metal machine.
I owned a Singer comprised mainly of nylon gears and pieces, and it
was a tremendous workhorse, lasting almost 20 years, with day-in,
day-out , heavy usage: alterations, garment-making, and some slipcover
work.
I sorrowed at it's passing, but I used the poor thing to a nub.
Cea
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Re: REC on Pfaff 1214
<<sa...@dolmus.softnet.co.uk (Sally Holmes)
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must.
Sally attempts to educate:
Chris and Brenda Jarvis
Brenda Jarvis wrote:
> > If you are doing a lot of sewing, a machine with all metal parts
> > is a must.
> Sally Holmes wrote:
> This is a half-truth put about by people who sell all-metal-innards
> machines.
>
> Cheap plastic is awful. High-quality nylon, however, wears as well as
> metal and doesn't need lubricating. It's lighter, too. But it ain't
> cheap.
I can't speak for England, but in the US, there are two kinds of
machines commonly available in the $200-$300 price range for NEW
machines. One kind has mostly metal parts inside and the other set
contains mostly cheap plastic parts that, in my PERSONAL experience,
have variable reliability. That and simply that was my point. Anything
else is usually in the $600+ range. I am by profession a scientist who
sews costumes as a hobby. My original post reflected my objective
observations and personal experiences. If you will go back and read my
entire post you will see that I mention two different machines of
similar models with two very different results. Again, my personal
experience. There was no half truth involved nor do I sell sewing
machines. I have never had experience with the high quality nylon
machines that you mention. In fact, I've not seen any such machine in
the $200-$300 price range mentioned by the original poster.
As for Cea:
>sewingb...@webtv.net wrote:
> And I do pity the beginner, who takes this as bible, and tries to find
> an all-metal machine. I owned a Singer comprised mainly of nylon gears
>and pieces, and it was a tremendous workhorse, lasting almost 20
years,
Old Singers ARE workhorses. I don't dispute that and did not imply
otherwise in my post. I had the use of an old Singer for a time and I
used it constantly until Iit had to go home with a roommate. My stated
opinion of the newer singers still stands, however. The brand new Singer
I bought in 1996 (way so not 20 years ago and in my opinion of greatly
inferior quality) could not keep a proper tension and spent more time in
the shop than in my home.
Anitha asked about purchasing a new Singer/Kenmore versus an old Pfaff.
Why not discuss the original question instead of flaming a poster for
her opinion.
Brenda Jarvis
Sally Holmes
>
> Brenda Jarvis wrote:
>
> > > If you are doing a lot of sewing, a machine with all metal parts
> > > is a must.
>
> > Sally Holmes wrote:
> > This is a half-truth put about by people who sell all-metal-innards
> > machines.
>
> her opinion.
Which of the above statements was an opinion? Both, I'd say. Who flamed?
I certainly didn't intend to. Brenda, if you think that was a flame, you
ain't seen nuthin'. JMHO, of course :-)
Donna Gennick
Anitha Tellakula <ani...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
> new Singer or Kenmore in that price?
>
>
Hi Anitha,
I have an old (approx 45 years) Pfaff 260 sewing machine, which is not the
same model you are asking about, but it is a great machine and I will never
part with it. I would never trade it for a new Kenmore or Singer (I haven't
heard good things lately about NEW Singers.) Your results may vary, but
personally I'd go for the old Pfaff.
Donna G.
Michigan, USA
sewingb...@webtv.net
It is true that you were writing about _new_ Singers. I always buy the
older models; (own two of them now), and they run beautifully. There
tends to be a lot of generalized
dissing of Singer machines, and I've developed a knee-jerk reaction to
the criticism.
Cea
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Re: REC on Pfaff 1214
If you are doing a lot of sewing, a machine with all metal parts is a
must.
<<Sally Holmes wrote:>>
<<This is a half-truth put about by people who sell all-metal-innards
machines.
<Cheap plastic is awful. High-quality nylon, however, wears as well as
metal and doesn't need lubricating. It's lighter, too. But it ain't
cheap.
I can't speak for England, but in the US, there are two kinds of
machines commonly available in the $200-$300 price range for NEW
machines. One kind has mostly metal parts inside and the other set
contains mostly cheap plastic parts that, in my PERSONAL experience,
have variable reliability. That and simply that was my point. Anything
else is usually in the $600+ range. I am by profession a scientist who
sews costumes as a hobby. My original post reflected my objective
observations and personal experiences. If you will go back and read my
entire post you will see that I mention two different machines of
similar models with two very different results. Again, my personal
experience. There was no half truth involved nor do I sell sewing
machines. I have never had experience with the high quality nylon
machines that you mention. In fact, I've not seen any such machine in
the $200-$300 price range mentioned by the original poster.
As for Cea:
<<<sewingb...@webtv.net wrote:
<<<And I do pity the beginner, who takes this as bible, and
tries to find an all-metal machine. I owned a Singer comprised mainly of
nylon gears
and pieces, and it was a tremendous workhorse, lasting almost 20 years,
Kathy I. Morgan
> I owned a Singer comprised mainly of nylon gears and pieces, and it
> was a tremendous workhorse, lasting almost 20 years, with day-in,
> day-out , heavy usage: alterations, garment-making, and some slipcover
> work.
> I sorrowed at it's passing, but I used the poor thing to a nub.
That sounds like the Singer I'm still using--it's 26 years old now and
still chugging along. I had to take it in for repairs recently after
I'd messed up the timing (it was never meant to sew heavy-duty
fiberglass-reinforced greenhouse fabric--guess I shouldn't have tried to
do that project on the machine) and the repair guy was able to get it
going yet again, but I'm afraid that was the last visit to the repair
shop. He happened to have a few parts on hand but warned that he is no
longer able to get more parts.
--
Kathy
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older-model used Pfaff. I was unhappy with the Singer, which had chronic
tension problems that the repairman never could fix, so I replaced it with
the Pfaff. It has been a great performer. I know four other people who own
and like their Pfaffs, which range from early '70s vintage to one year old.
I don't know a thing about the 1214 specifically, but I'd go for the Pfaff
any day over a new Singer.
Sharon
Anitha Tellakula wrote in message <3A5A2A10...@nortelnetworks.com>...
Marilyn
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Anitha Tellakula
Pfaff 1214 machine and it was quite smooth and it gave me a good seam.
I was also told the machine requires no to little maintenence with
occational
oiling. So, I did buy the machine which I think is in pretty good
condition.
Thank You,
Anitha