Needle bending and breaking !

[Andy Sears]

Hi All,

Does anyone know of any on-line repair and/or servicing resources?

I have a Pfaff 1222, but the timing seems to be out as the needle hits the
bobbing case on the downward stroke. (and bends / breaks the needle)

Apart from that, my newly acquired machine looks to be in good condition.

To be honest, I haven't the money to pay someone to service my machine, but
as I am pretty handy with a screwdriver, I'd like to tackle it myself.

If anyone would like to share their knowledge on how to achieve this repair,
or knows of an on-line information source it would be greatly appreciated.

please answer here, or email me with any replies.

Many thanks,

Andy.

[sewingb...@webtv.net]

Try this book:
The Sewing Machine Guide
Tips on chosing, buying, and refurbishing
John Giordano
Taunton , ISBN# 1-5618-220-4
Also, look at your needle-bar, above the needle-set screw, to see if
there are timing marks on it. These should be under the pinch screw,
possibly etched on the needle bar.
Loosen the pinch screw, and move the needle bar up or down,as needed,
to adjust the
eye of the needle 3/32" of an inch [2.4mm],
below the point of the hook after the needle has risen 3/32 of an inch
from it's lowest point.[Which is just off the shuttle-hook point, as it
comes up around.]
Then tighten the pinch screw, and be sure the
stop screw [the last screw, above the needle clamp--it faces you] is in
place, or the timing will still be off.
[ some machines have the set screw reachable only through a hole in
the machine head.]
Hope this helps.
Cea

"Needle bending and breaking !

know of any on-line repair and/or servicing resources?
I have a Pfaff 1222, but the timing seems to be out as the needle hits
the bobbing case on the downward stroke. (and bends / breaks the needle)

pretty handy with a screwdriver, I'd like to tackle it myself.
If anyone would like to share their knowledge on how to achieve this
repair, or knows of an on-line information source it would be greatly

thanks,
Andy."

[Pat Winters]

Andy: When I had Pfaff 1222 I had the same problem
*sometimes* .... come to find out I was using incorrect
needle!! Do NOT use Singer needles ... get the Pfaff or
Schmetz brand. Could be a real mechanical problem, but this
is a place to start! HTH. PAT in Virginia

Andy Sears wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know of any on-line repair and/or servicing resources?

>
> I have a Pfaff 1222, but the timing seems to be out as the needle hits the
> bobbing case on the downward stroke. (and bends / breaks the needle)
>

> Apart from that, my newly acquired machine looks to be in good condition.
>
> To be honest, I haven't the money to pay someone to service my machine, but

> as I am pretty handy with a screwdriver, I'd like to tackle it myself.

>
> If anyone would like to share their knowledge on how to achieve this repair,

[Dean]

Omigod! Someone actually, finally shed some light on timing and potentially
working on it ones self. Thank You, thank you, Cea. Knowledge is power.
Dean

<sewingb...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Try this book:
> The Sewing Machine Guide
> Tips on chosing, buying, and refurbishing
> John Giordano
> Taunton , ISBN# 1-5618-220-4
> Also, look at your needle-bar, above the needle-set screw, to see if
> there are timing marks on it. These should be under the pinch screw,
> possibly etched on the needle bar.
> Loosen the pinch screw, and move the needle bar up or down,as needed,
> to adjust the
> eye of the needle 3/32" of an inch [2.4mm],
> below the point of the hook after the needle has risen 3/32 of an inch
> from it's lowest point.[Which is just off the shuttle-hook point, as it
> comes up around.]
> Then tighten the pinch screw, and be sure the
> stop screw [the last screw, above the needle clamp--it faces you] is in
> place, or the timing will still be off.
> [ some machines have the set screw reachable only through a hole in
> the machine head.]
> Hope this helps.
> Cea
>
> "Needle bending and breaking !

> know of any on-line repair and/or servicing resources?
> I have a Pfaff 1222, but the timing seems to be out as the needle hits
> the bobbing case on the downward stroke. (and bends / breaks the needle)

> pretty handy with a screwdriver, I'd like to tackle it myself.
> If anyone would like to share their knowledge on how to achieve this
> repair, or knows of an on-line information source it would be greatly

> thanks,
> Andy."
>

[Judith Ritter]

Sometimes a whole batch of needles come out of the manufacturer too long!
Quality control slept in. :)

It may not be your machine at all.

[Yarn Forward]

sewingb...@webtv.net wrote:

> Try this book:
> The Sewing Machine Guide
> Tips on chosing, buying, and refurbishing
> John Giordano
> Taunton , ISBN# 1-5618-220-4
> Also, look at your needle-bar, above the needle-set screw, to see if
> there are timing marks on it. These should be under the pinch screw,
> possibly etched on the needle bar.
> Loosen the pinch screw, and move the needle bar up or down,as needed,
> to adjust the
> eye of the needle 3/32" of an inch [2.4mm],
> below the point of the hook after the needle has risen 3/32 of an inch
> from it's lowest point.[Which is just off the shuttle-hook point, as it
> comes up around.]
> Then tighten the pinch screw, and be sure the
> stop screw [the last screw, above the needle clamp--it faces you] is in
> place, or the timing will still be off.
> [ some machines have the set screw reachable only through a hole in
> the machine head.]
> Hope this helps.
> Cea
>

The height of the needle bar is just one of many adjustments needed on a
sewing machine. After a jam the timing can be wrong which means that the
rotation of the hook is late with respect to the needle. Not an issue of
needle height at all. If you are breaking needles this is the most likely
problem.
Roger.

--
Yarn Forward
Your On Line Yarn Store
http://www.yarnforward.com

[Andy Sears]

Many thanks for your reply Cea.

This should help.

Thanks again.

Andy.

<sewingb...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Try this book:
> The Sewing Machine Guide
> Tips on chosing, buying, and refurbishing
> John Giordano
> Taunton , ISBN# 1-5618-220-4
> Also, look at your needle-bar, above the needle-set screw, to see if
> there are timing marks on it. These should be under the pinch screw,
> possibly etched on the needle bar.
> Loosen the pinch screw, and move the needle bar up or down,as needed,
> to adjust the
> eye of the needle 3/32" of an inch [2.4mm],
> below the point of the hook after the needle has risen 3/32 of an inch
> from it's lowest point.[Which is just off the shuttle-hook point, as it
> comes up around.]
> Then tighten the pinch screw, and be sure the
> stop screw [the last screw, above the needle clamp--it faces you] is in
> place, or the timing will still be off.
> [ some machines have the set screw reachable only through a hole in
> the machine head.]
> Hope this helps.
> Cea
>

[Andy Sears]

Really?

I Didn't know that.

I'll try another brand of needle.

Thanks for your reply Judith.

Andy.

"Judith Ritter" <kc8...@knownet.net> wrote in message
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[Andy Sears]

Thanks for that Roger.

I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

If it's not the needle bar, any idea what else I have to change?

If it's any help, I could take a digi photo of the machine with the top off?

Perhaps you or another knowledgeable person could use an art program to
position an arrow or two on the adjust points?

Let me know, and I'll send one.

Thanks again.

Andy.

"Yarn Forward" <public...@yarnforward.com> wrote in message
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> sewingb...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > Try this book:
> > The Sewing Machine Guide
> > Tips on chosing, buying, and refurbishing
> > John Giordano
> > Taunton , ISBN# 1-5618-220-4
> > Also, look at your needle-bar, above the needle-set screw, to see if
> > there are timing marks on it. These should be under the pinch screw,
> > possibly etched on the needle bar.
> > Loosen the pinch screw, and move the needle bar up or down,as needed,
> > to adjust the
> > eye of the needle 3/32" of an inch [2.4mm],
> > below the point of the hook after the needle has risen 3/32 of an inch
> > from it's lowest point.[Which is just off the shuttle-hook point, as it
> > comes up around.]
> > Then tighten the pinch screw, and be sure the
> > stop screw [the last screw, above the needle clamp--it faces you] is in
> > place, or the timing will still be off.
> > [ some machines have the set screw reachable only through a hole in
> > the machine head.]
> > Hope this helps.
> > Cea
> >
>

[Ron Anderson]

Now if only that info will work. And it won't. The Pfaff 1222 has no timing
marks. In fact it requires a special gauge set to set the timing.

Andy, This is one machine that only a qualified technician should be
repairing. The 1222 is one of the most complicated machines ever built. Do
your self a favor and bring it to a Pfaff dealer.

--
Ron Anderson
A1 Sewing Machine
PO Box 60
Sand Lake, NY 12153
518-674-8491
http://www.a1sewingmachine.com
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[sewingb...@webtv.net]

Thank you, Ron. This is information which is useful.
Cea

<R...@a1sewingmachine.com

(Ron Anderson) wrote:>
Now if only that info will work. And it won't. The Pfaff 1222 has no
timing marks. In fact it requires a special gauge set to set the timing.
Andy, This is one machine that only a qualified technician should be
repairing. The 1222 is one of the most complicated machines ever built.

[Andy Sears]

Thanks for the reply Ron.

I feel your right on this one, having taken the top and side plates off to
view the innards.
(Quite complicated)

But I'm still holding out for someone who will tell/show me how to do it.
(at least for a few days anyway)

I would even be prepared to take a few digital photo's of the machine
(inside workings and so on..)
and post here for someone knowledgeable to highlight or arrow the areas to
adjust..

Actually Ron, you sound quite knowledgeable about the Pfaff 1222....

I wonder.....? :-)

Cheers,

Andy.

"Ron Anderson" <R...@a1sewingmachine.com> wrote in message
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> Now if only that info will work. And it won't. The Pfaff 1222 has no
timing
> marks. In fact it requires a special gauge set to set the timing.
>
> Andy, This is one machine that only a qualified technician should be

> repairing. The 1222 is one of the most complicated machines ever built. Do
> your self a favor and bring it to a Pfaff dealer.
>
> --

> Ron Anderson
> A1 Sewing Machine
> PO Box 60
> Sand Lake, NY 12153
> 518-674-8491

> http://www.a1sewingmachine.com
> Dean <red...@home.com> wrote in message
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