Silkpainting using salt granules anyone tried it?
antngl.
I just wondered if any of you out there have tried silkpainting with salt
granules for special effects? I've done a couple of floral pictures with the
normal gutta outline method, but I would like to experiment more. I have
quite a lot of silk fabric to try it out on, some of darker colours.I have
collected lots of colours of silk paints and several coloured gutta's to
ouline with.I hope to make cards and picture's, also maybe a quilt one
day.Another question does anyone know if you have used gutta for outlining
then wash the finished item, If the gutta is water based will it wash out
and also does it make a mess of the project if the gutta is black or does it
wash out cleanly and completely dissapear? I'm still learning so have only
done two picture's one of Irises, on a black background, and the other also
with smaller irises and roses in a spray.They will be on my website when
it's finished.Thanks in advance warm regards from Gloria in Essex UK
Ally
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>Hi Everyone,
>I just wondered if any of you out there have tried silkpainting with salt
>granules for special effects? I've done a couple of floral pictures with the
>normal gutta outline method, but I would like to experiment more.
Yes. I did this when i used to do silk painting. I used to stretch the
silk on a frame, or if it was a small peice (which was most of the time)
I put it in a dish. I then put the dye on, usually in blobs of colour
as I liked that effect. If you then put rock crystal salt on it, the
salt soaks up some of the colour so you get a kind of paler blob in the
middle of the darker colour blob. Its hard to explain the effect - try
and see.
The thing is to put the salt on immediately after the dye before it
dries out. So if you are doing a large peice of fabric you can only
paint a small section at a time. Also I found it worked better if I was
a little generous with the dye. You must also use the large rock
crystal type of salt as this gives a better effect - granulated salt
doesnt work very well!
I never washed any of mine, so I dont know if the gutta comes off or not
- sorry.
Have fun with the salt. Play around with it you can get all sorts of
different effects.
:-)
--
Ally
antngl.
I'll let you know how I get on. I can't wait to try it. I have a couple of
quilt's I must finish first. Your fabric painting sound's like it went well.
Did you use it yet for any of your quilting prtoject's? With warm regards
from Gloria in Essex UK who's definitely going to get off this computer as
soon as she's read her post's to sew<LOL.> ;-)
Ally wrote in message ...
Nurse Ratched
>crystal type of salt as this gives a better effect - granulated salt
>doesnt work very well!
Kosher salt has granules that are a good size. You DON'T have to buy overpriced
"silk painting salt". The size of the "spots" is directly related to the size
of the salt granules.
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question in turn:
>I just wondered if any of you out there have tried silkpainting with salt
>granules for special effects?
yes, i use salt a lot, i have a whole "line" of fabric that is salt dyed. with
table salt you get a speckled look, with rock salt you get more bursts of
color. for the most reaction to take place, you need to put the salt on almost
immediately after the color, while it is still really wet, and leave it until
completely dry. i find that i get a lot more migration if i leave some space
around each bit of rock salt, it leaves room for the color to move more.
silk always seems to be more reactive to salt than cotton is, so you should get
some exciting fantastic results.
I've done a couple of floral pictures with the
>normal gutta outline method, but I would like to experiment more. I have
>quite a lot of silk fabric to try it out on, some of darker colours.I have
>collected lots of colours of silk paints and several coloured gutta's to
>ouline with.I hope to make cards and picture's, also maybe a quilt one
>day.Another question does anyone know if you have used gutta for outlining
>then wash the finished item, If the gutta is water based will it wash out
>and also does it make a mess of the project if the gutta is black or does it
>wash out cleanly and completely dissapear?
ok, you are doing serti!
this is what i understand about gutta--it must be dry cleaned to be removed,
but that means that you should only use the colored guttas where dry cleaning
is not required. if you want the color to remain, you should use a water-based
resist.
i don't use gutta because i don't like the precautions you have to take--if i
had a house with a yard or garage i'd probably use it more often. flammability
is a major concern to me.
I'm still learning so have only
>done two picture's one of Irises, on a black background, and the other also
>with smaller irises and roses in a spray.They will be on my website when
>it's finished.
you are off to a great start! i know you are in the UK, there is a great dye
house there with some very helpful people, i've forgotten the exact name of the
place but i'll look it up for you at the dyer's list and let you know. they
have an email address and a website and they are very willing to answer
questions and give you some suggestions. babalu!
rowena___. in music city USA
RoStitchery Custom Sewing and Quilting
http://members.aol.com/rostitchry/home.html
"when was the last time you did something for the first time?"
Cary Springer
> you are off to a great start! i know you are in the UK, there is a great dye
> house there with some very helpful people, i've forgotten the exact name of the
> place but i'll look it up for you at the dyer's list and let you know. they
> have an email address and a website and they are very willing to answer
> questions and give you some suggestions. babalu!
>
> rowena___. in music city USA
> RoStitchery Custom Sewing and Quilting
> http://members.aol.com/rostitchry/home.html
>
> "when was the last time you did something for the first time?"
The company is Dharma Trading Company. The catalog is a wealth of
information and a hoot to read. Their website
ishttp://www.dharmatrading.com/
Cary
Rowena Aldridge
supplier there who has everything you need and chips too. ;) you can use any
kind of paint with the salt effect, it even works on muslin with regular dye.
silk paint is simply paint that is thinner with finer pigment, it will work on
any kind of fiber, including paper, wood, etc. you can use other paints or
dyes on silk too, i like procion fiber reactive dye in an acid bath.
if your gutta is a water-based solution, then you probably have a gutta
substitute--true gutta is latex based. i don't know a lot about it, i've done
a few experiments but nothing substantial. i've done batik, which is similar.
i love the effects but i don't like the process, it is very labor intensive and
takes several more supplies than simple application techniques.
the best way to learn about dyeing and painting is to dye and paint things, you
will see in real life what happens when you combine this with that, or when you
do it one way and then another. personally, when i have a piece of fabric that
is not what i wished it to be, i do something else to it and see what
happens--you can't lose anything by experimenting. one thing that is turning
out to be true for me is that the more i do to a piece the better i like it.
the pieces that i put thru three or four or five processes have so much more
depth and personality. so when you get into a rut about something, don't toss
it, play with it, you'll probably come up with something brilliant. hugs,
babalu!
rowena___. in music city USA
RoStitchery Custom Sewing and Quilting
http://members.aol.com/rostitchry/home.html
>Thank's for the kind words. Wait till you see what I do with it first.it
>will be my first try and I might make a big mess of it although I'll try not
>too.I've seen your painted fabric online on your site it's really pretty.Can
>I use the normal silk paint or do I need a dye for silk's to do the salt
>effect's?The paint I have is called Seta Silk Paint. I don't know if this is
>the same place you are thinking of but I bought my paint from a place called
>Arty's. Art Express. They stock a wide range of silk paint's. I'm hoping
>they don't dry up as I bought them over a year ago.I would also like to try
>to paint little cards for special occasion's, when I get a bit more
>experienced.Have you done any batik or resist painting Babalu?I first got
>interested in silkpainting last year when I saw an art's and craft's
>programme called the craft's hour at lunch time. They painted a scene like a
>Russian Palace. It was beautiful. My gutta is a water based one. I have some
>pretty colour's in it. It sound's really exciting the effect's that can be
>achieved. I look forward to trying them. I have two quilt's I need to
>finish.Then I'll have a go before I start my Grandaughter's DWR one.I also
>have some fabric paint for normal fabric but have not tried that yet.Thank's
>for all the advice you've given me. I'll let you know how I do. Good or bad
>I'll put them on the website when it's finished.Happy Painting/Stitching
>with warmest regards from Gloria in Essex UK
Rowena Aldridge
>The company is Dharma Trading Company. The catalog is a wealth of
>information and a hoot to read. Their website
>ishttp://www.dharmatrading.com/
>
yes, i use dharma, and prochem, but gloria is in the UK and there is a similar
company there which would have what she needs at a much better price than she
can get by ordering from US. i've asked at the dyers list, the owner of the UK
dye house is a member but is an infrequent poster so he might not see my
question for days. babalu!
rowena___. in music city USA
RoStitchery Custom Sewing and Quilting
http://members.aol.com/rostitchry/home.html
"when was the last time you did something for the first time?"
Moira Riddell
They are the only people that spring to mind that concentrates solely on
dyes, I believe that they are still in Sydenham, South of London.
Moira
In article <19990920225635...@ngol03.aol.com>, Rowena
Aldridge <rosti...@aol.com> writes
>hi gloria! Arty's is not the place i'm thinking of, there is a major dye
>supplier there who has everything you need and chips too. ;) you can use any
>kind of paint with the salt effect, it even works on muslin with regular dye.
>silk paint is simply paint that is thinner with finer pigment, it will work on
>any kind of fiber, including paper, wood, etc. you can use other paints or
>dyes on silk too, i like procion fiber reactive dye in an acid bath.
>
>if your gutta is a water-based solution, then you probably have a gutta
>substitute--true gutta is latex based. i don't know a lot about it, i've done
>a few experiments but nothing substantial. i've done batik, which is similar.
>i love the effects but i don't like the process, it is very labor intensive and
>takes several more supplies than simple application techniques.
>
>the best way to learn about dyeing and painting is to dye and paint things, you
>will see in real life what happens when you combine this with that, or when you
>do it one way and then another. personally, when i have a piece of fabric that
>is not what i wished it to be, i do something else to it and see what
>happens--you can't lose anything by experimenting. one thing that is turning
>out to be true for me is that the more i do to a piece the better i like it.
>the pieces that i put thru three or four or five processes have so much more
>depth and personality. so when you get into a rut about something, don't toss
>it, play with it, you'll probably come up with something brilliant. hugs,
>babalu!
>
>rowena___. in music city USA
>RoStitchery Custom Sewing and Quilting
>http://members.aol.com/rostitchry/home.html
>
>>Thank's for the kind words. Wait till you see what I do with it first.it
>>will be my first try and I might make a big mess of it although I'll try not
>>too.I've seen your painted fabric online on your site it's really pretty.Can
>>I use the normal silk paint or do I need a dye for silk's to do the salt
>>effect's?The paint I have is called Seta Silk Paint. I don't know if this is
>>the same place you are thinking of but I bought my paint from a place called
>>Arty's. Art Express. They stock a wide range of silk paint's. I'm hoping
>>they don't dry up as I bought them over a year ago.I would also like to try
>>to paint little cards for special occasion's, when I get a bit more
>>experienced.Have you done any batik or resist painting Babalu?I first got
>>interested in silkpainting last year when I saw an art's and craft's
>>programme called the craft's hour at lunch time. They painted a scene like a
>>Russian Palace. It was beautiful. My gutta is a water based one. I have some
>>pretty colour's in it. It sound's really exciting the effect's that can be
>>achieved. I look forward to trying them. I have two quilt's I need to
>>finish.Then I'll have a go before I start my Grandaughter's DWR one.I also
>>have some fabric paint for normal fabric but have not tried that yet.Thank's
>>for all the advice you've given me. I'll let you know how I do. Good or bad
>>I'll put them on the website when it's finished.Happy Painting/Stitching
>>with warmest regards from Gloria in Essex UK
>
>
>
>"when was the last time you did something for the first time?"
--
Moira Riddell
email at: mo...@ridell.demon.co.uk
antngl.
Thank's I'll check that out. It's sound's interesting. Have you done some
silkpainting? Also have you used it in any of your quilt's? Thank's again
and warm regards from Gloria in Essex UK
Cary Springer wrote in message <37E69D...@utk.edu>...
>>
>> you are off to a great start! i know you are in the UK, there is a great
dye
>> house there with some very helpful people, i've forgotten the exact name
of the
>> place but i'll look it up for you at the dyer's list and let you know.
they
>> have an email address and a website and they are very willing to answer
>>
>> rowena___. in music city USA
>> RoStitchery Custom Sewing and Quilting
>> http://members.aol.com/rostitchry/home.html
>>
>
>information and a hoot to read. Their website
>ishttp://www.dharmatrading.com/
>
antngl.
Thank's for all the advice you have given. I can't wait till my Quilt's are
finished and I can try it all out. I have got some book's out from the local
Library so I'm reading them about silkpainting and dyeing, so hopefully I'll
be able to achieve some decent effect's. As you say if you don't like it you
can try another effect over the top. It's good to know you can use the silk
paint's on most fabric's and other medium's. I just was wondering about the
gutta washing out as to whether you could achieve a similar effect to batik
without using the normal wax method, that must be quite difficult to remove
once applied. It's exciting not knowing quite what you will achieve.Thank's
again for all the help. I did a bit more work on my crib quilt. My stitch is
not right, I think it's the tension. I'm getting there slowly. I have some
unpicking to do. It's hard because I can't seem to track down my seam ripper
tool. It takes ages with normal scissor's.Never mind it will get finished in
the end. I have an incentive to hurry up now. I'm looking forward to trying
out the silk project's.Hug's and warm regards from Gloria in Essex UK
Rowena Aldridge wrote in message
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>
>rowena___. in music city USA
>RoStitchery Custom Sewing and Quilting
>http://members.aol.com/rostitchry/home.html
>
Cary Springer
>
> Hi Cary,
> Thank's I'll check that out. It's sound's interesting. Have you done some
> silkpainting? Also have you used it in any of your quilt's? Thank's again
Gloria,
I haven't yet ventured into silk painting....yet. I have just started
playing with dyeing fabric. I have found it tons of fun. I haven't used
any of my hand dyed fabric in a quilt yet. Partly because I can't decide
what I want to do with it and partly I can't bear to cut into it yet.
Okay, well I have cut the fabric but I only cut the fabric in half so I
can share it with my mom. She gives me half of everything she dyes and I
do the same. My next step is to play with salt when dyeing cotton. (I
first need to make it to the store and buy some rock salt).
Even if you don't order from Dharma, the catalog is worth getting just
for the information and the list of products. I may not order the dyes
regularly from them due to the shipping costs. I am looking for a dyeing
supply company that that does mail orders and is located on the east
coast of the United States.
I will end up ordering a batiking kit from Dharma though. Everytime I
see a demonstration on TV, it just gets me itching to give it a try. If
I do end up doing silk painting which I can foresee me doing in the
future since I love to try new things, I may end up using it some crazy
quilting or something. Then again I may just end up admiring it and
fondling it. :)
Let us know how your fabric turns out.
Cary
Dragonfly
my last quarter in college, and had a blast. I treated myself to a book or
two on fabric dying right before I moved away from Seattle a year ago --
haven't unpacked it/them yet, and I won't have time to do anything about it
anytime soon -- but once I get settled and unpacked and organized again, I'm
going to be dying some fabrics, just for fun! Maybe even doing some fabric
painting and embellishing with that as the middle of a quilt, but that's
just in the dream/maybe stage.
--
Dragonfly
(reply address nospammed, sorry... mama_cole -at- hotmail -dot- com)
Cary Springer <spri...@utk.edu> wrote in message
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Annie Wilson
Okay, since I teach this stuff too, here's the scoop.
You can use: regular table salt, epsom salts, kosher salt, rock salt.... you
get the idea! They all work and they all produce different effects. The
biggest thing you need to remember is that if the fabric is VERY VERY WET, it
will overwhelm the salk crystals and they won't be effective.
Don't be afraid to apply the salt more then once and different kinds at the
same time.
The key here is PLAY!
cheers,
annie
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But in the meantime I have been hoarding stuff that could be interesting to
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are just some of the things in my dyeing box. Can't wait to try it!
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