While I am not a big fan of factory farms, which is where a lot of
commercial eggs come from, that is not why I pay four times as much for
organic eggs.
I am allergic to two of the main groups of cheap antibiotics.
Every now and again when I eat the cheaper grocery store eggs I become
rather violently ill with an allergic reaction. It is not something that
happens every time I eat them, but it is unpleasant enough that I would
just as soon avoid it. The easiest way to avoid it is to use organic
eggs. If I am making something that calls for an egg or two in a dish
that makes 8 or ten servings, or one that calls for just whites, I can
usually get away with the cheaper eggs. If I want an egg for breakfast,
or I am making a yolk rich dish, the $4 a dozen ones are more than worth
the extra money for me.
Buying locally is a big plus, the far superior quality of the eggs is a
big plus, supporting happy chickens is a plus, but not making me ill is
my primary reason for buying the much more expensive organic eggs.
NightMist
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"Ruby" <> The use of antibiotics (developed for humans) and used in animal
There are millions of salad dressings, but I like this one:
Get a small clean jar with a screw-on lid
Crush a clove of garlic into the jar
Freshly grind some black pepper into the jar
Add equal measures of balsamic vinegar and the best olive oil you can afford
Shake, shake shake! Use within a couple of days. If you put it into
the fridge, it will all settle out, so pop it in the microwave for 20
seconds and then shake again just before you use it. Gorgeous, fresh
and no strange ingredients!
-- Jo in Scotland
Doc
I never knew there *was* such a thing as store-bought salad dressing
until I started eating away from home - (of course I never knew there
was any kind of dressing other than the horrible vinegar concoction my
mom used to make either...) I think now we use Marie's dressings from
the produce section (DW can't keep her face out of the bleu cheese) -
I'd have to read the labels, but I 'spect they're not quite as bad as
the shelf stuff... Fortunately salad dressings are fairly easy & fun
to experiment with!
"Ruby" wrote ...
So far as soy, I am really ticked off about that.
I know a guy who grows a heritage variety for his own use. The japanese
"beer friend" variety to be specific. I have no problem eating those.
For years I had no problem eating any kind of soy. Then all of a sudden
I ate a soy sausage and nearly ended up in the ER. My throat darned near
swelled shut and it felt like I was trying to breathe with a hundred
pound weight on my chest. Judicious experimentation has led me to
believe that it is the GMO soy that gives me trouble. Since more than
90% of the US crop is either GMO or GMO contaminated that pretty much
excludes soy from my diet. I can eat beer friend beans all night long,
but a commercial soy burger is life threatening. Grrr!
NightMist
Here organic "cage free" (for what that's worth) eggs are $3.50 - $4 a
dozen at the market. Same price at the farmers market if I think to go
and buy eggs on Saturday.
Pastured eggs from chickens who actually run around a pasture and eat
bugs and grasses and seeds - and not sit in a barn with a teeny open
door in a corner that they never exit - cost $8 a dozen at the farmer's
market and the lady runs out early. People want them, can taste the
difference and willingly get there at 9 am and line up to pay that much
for generally smallish eggs.
marcella
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> Pastured eggs from chickens who actually run around a pasture and eat
> bugs
Mmmmm... LOVE that BUGGY Flavor!!!
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On Jul 19, 1:00 pm, "ME-Judy" <ajhus...@suscom-maine.net> wrote:
> On the topic of chickens and "natural bugs" --- One of our neighbors raises
> "natural" chickens for their eggs. They bring us over a dozen when their
> chickens lay an abundance for them. We return the favor by sharing veggies
> from our garden all summer. We got to talking about bugs-in-the-garden
> yesterday - especially the japanese beetles (which have become a huge pest,
> devouring the leaves on sunflower, green bean and beet plants). Neighbor
> said that her chickens LOVE them! So I told her she was more than welcome to
> come over and "harvest" them.... I usually pick them off and throw into a
> can with soapy water inside (so they can't fly out - the soap goops up their
> wings.) (Neighbor just uses plain water. Maine has a motto "ReUse,
> Reduce, and recycle" --we love it! We both are doing well in that regard!
> ME-Judy
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> > Pastured eggs from chickens who actually run around a pasture and eat
> > bugs and grasses and seeds - and not sit in a barn with a teeny open
> > door in a corner that they never exit - cost $8 a dozen at the farmer's
> > market and the lady runs out early. People want them, can taste the
> > difference and willingly get there at 9 am and line up to pay that much
> > for generally smallish eggs.
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I just checked with management.
Eggs at Weggie$ are about a buck;
Pastel carpool eggs are a buck-fifty.
I expect your middlemen are getting the bulk.
We used to get pastels from a friend in the Finger Lakes whenever we
saw her, but that's been years...
Got a good co-op down there?
Doc
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I keep hoping the current administration gets around to smacking the USDA
and the FDA upside the head. They have so many more important things
they should be doing instead of messing with a couple dozen co-ops that
buy from local farms instead of industry.
NightMist
If you use traps make for gosh darn sure you put them a good long ways
from what you are trying to protect. They work because they are baited,
and the bait will attract the things. A bag of beetles is a lot less
impressive when most of them flew in from the neighbor's yards, and half
the ones that flew in blew off the bag in favor of your roses.
I plant garlic and other alliums near susceptible plants, and plant four
o'clocks. Japanese beetles are very unfond of alliums, especially garlic.
They absolutely adore four o'clocks, which are deadly to them. They come
into the yard, steer clear of the roses because the roses are surrounded
by garlic, then scent the four o'clocks, decide they are a delight and
chow down, and then promptly die.
It works. My neighbor has been boggled at how beetle free my yard and
garden are. I happily passed on my method.
NightMist
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Larkspur, tansy, and geranium are all reputed to kill japanese beetles.
Larkspur makes one of the few good natural blue dyes. It is hard to beat
a nosegay of tansy for a stuffed head, or even a chest cold. You don't
want to eat the stuff though, and neither should your animals. I have
never really fancied geraniums. Dunno why, they can be a very nice
addition to a planned garden.
Catnip and rue are supposed to be some of the best beetle repellents. I
have those too. Maybe I have been giving the garlic more credit than it
is due, or maybe the repellents work better in the presence of an
attractant. Makes sense that they would doesn't it?
NightMist
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Chiming in on "cage free". Anyone read the Omivar's Dilema?
I'm pretty much giving up on buying organic chicken. Even non-organic
is hormone/anti-biotic free by regulation, and the "free range"
chickens only really have an open door to a tiny exercise yard for the
last couple weeks of their life, by which time they've already been
trained to stay in. Good thing, since they exercise "range" is so
small it would hold only a few of them.
Susan K
> I'm pretty much giving up on buying organic chicken. Even non-organic
> is hormone/anti-biotic free by regulation, and the "free range"
> chickens only really have an open door to a tiny exercise yard for the
> last couple weeks of their life, by which time they've already been
> trained to stay in. Good thing, since they exercise "range" is so
> small it would hold only a few of them.
I think the plus for free-range chickens is not the exercise, but the
food supply. If they are truly free-range, they will be eating grass,
weeds, bugs, and the like. I grew up on a farm and we always had
chickens. In the summer when the chickens were running free, the egg
yolks had a darker color due to the difference in the hens' diet. Also
when the cows started going to pasture in the spring, the milk started
to taste different due to the change in diet.
Julia in MN
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> I think the plus for free-range chickens is not the exercise, but the
> food supply. If they are truly free-range, they will be eating grass,
> weeds, bugs, and the like. I grew up on a farm and we always had
> chickens. In the summer when the chickens were running free, the egg
> yolks had a darker color due to the difference in the hens' diet. Also
> when the cows started going to pasture in the spring, the milk started
> to taste different due to the change in diet.
Everything tastes better when raised "the old-fashioned way". But we
don't live in the 19th - or early 20th century anymore. Raising food
the way some of us think it ought to be done has become a luxury,
which is obvious at the checkout. In the big picture, compromises
were/are made to feed more people for less cost. The same evils that
apply to Wal-mart apply to agribusiness (and quiltibusiness for that
matter - LQSs vs. Jo-Ann/Wal-mart) - we needn't re-hash the sacrifices
& downsides. Those who can afford it will always eat "better" (and
live "better" in other ways) than those who cannot. We all do the
best we can.
Doc
I'm trying really hard to not buy conventional beef but it's tough.
The Fresh Market sells grass fed strip steaks, and I'm using ground
bison because it's fairly local and won't be coming out of the big
McDonalds hamburge factory. But outside of that, there's not much
around here.
Susan K