when did Singers go bad?
R. E. Wicker
It is my opinion it was when Singer branched out into other
fields instead of researching and developing their sewing machine
line. There was a time when I could not imagine owning other than a
Singer. Now I still own three Singers and don't really use any of
them.
Rhoda
rewi...@worldnet.att.net
http://home.att.net/~rewicker
http://home.att.net/~wickerworks
On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:55:00 GMT, hn...@mailcity.comPINS (HN67) wrote:
> hi all
>
>i'll rephrase my question about the Singer 287... i found out that it
>was made in 1975.
>
>When did the Singer sewing machine co "lose it"?
>
>thanks in advance
>
>Hope
>remove the PINS to reply by email
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e...@bellsouth.net
good machine. I have owned one myself and it made the best zig zag I have
used.... Bev.... Tiara? Anyone know if it is a fashionmate? Christina
seamanitou
Asia. Cheap sewing machines for those poor people who stay hunched over
their machines 18 hours a day, 7 days a week, for $7 a week. That's why you
see "hand made" quilts in Bed Bath and Beyond for $28.00....... It is a
horror. Though I admit to a 1901 Singer Treadle that still works just like
brand new for straight quilting! What a shame such a wonderful company let
greed carry it into bankruptcy.....
Leiah
R. E. Wicker <REWi...@att.net> wrote in message
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Lois Frankel
> hi all
>
> i'll rephrase my question about the Singer 287... i found out that it
> was made in 1975.
>
> When did the Singer sewing machine co "lose it"?
Mid- to late-60's is the usually-accepted timeframe.
HN67
i'll rephrase my question about the Singer 287... i found out that it
was made in 1975.
When did the Singer sewing machine co "lose it"?
thanks in advance
Two x over
quick drink...then it was two, then three....before you knew it...all the
singers were lined up at the bar, swigging beer and shots, and not a single one
could hold the tension.
betsey
ok...can you tell it was a long day at work?
betsey
"we do not inherit the earth, we caretake it for our children"
HN67
(seems funny for some reason). Singer (the company) emailed me that
it was born in 1975.
Is that old enough to be an okay machine?
re the zig zag stitch- I had already noticed that- it does do a lovely
zig zag, and a satin stitch, which neither of my other machines does
(well).
so did i do good?
Hope
On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 20:37:41 -0600, "nom...@spam.com"
<e...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Singer 287? is that a Fashionmate? If it is I would guess it is a very
>good machine. I have owned one myself and it made the best zig zag I have
>used.... Bev.... Tiara? Anyone know if it is a fashionmate? Christina
>
>"R. E. Wicker" wrote:
>
>> Dear Hope,
>> It is my opinion it was when Singer branched out into other
>> fields instead of researching and developing their sewing machine
>> line. There was a time when I could not imagine owning other than a
>> Singer. Now I still own three Singers and don't really use any of
>> them.
>>
>> Rhoda
>> rewi...@worldnet.att.net
>> http://home.att.net/~rewicker
>> http://home.att.net/~wickerworks
>>
>> On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:55:00 GMT, hn...@mailcity.comPINS (HN67) wrote:
>>
coller
machines 'went bad' when their production factories moved from Japan (?) to
Korea, I think it was...Or maybe Taiwan...But anyway, the machines became
'cheaper' in more ways than one...>By the way, I bought a Janome and loved
it!!!
Janet in Oz
R. E. Wicker wrote in message <38273c36...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
Judith Puddy
Two x over <twox...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19991108214453...@ng-cm1.aol.com...
: singers started to go "bad" when one by one the machines would slip out
Teri Lucas
Factories to make their equipment overseas. Apparently a "cost-saving"
maneuver. I lived in an area where one of their factories (over 1/2 a mile
long and four or five stories high) was. This once was a thriving
industrial area and although they pulled out over 35 years ago the damage
Singer did to the neighborhood is still evident.
Teri
>
> > hi all
> >
> > i'll rephrase my question about the Singer 287... i found out that it
> > was made in 1975.
> >
> > When did the Singer sewing machine co "lose it"?
>
Smee55
I have a featherweight made in 1952. It is a joy. Then I was given a 600,
nothing but problems, I think it was one of the Japanese machines. I traded
that one, a small surger I had and a Janome 3,000 for my Janome 9,000 and would
never give up the featherweight, it was my Mom's. The featherweight and I are
the same age.
Blessed be
Ellen in Ma
LN in New England
another flame war. <he he>
LN
HN67 <hn...@mailcity.comPINS> wrote in message
news:3827d310...@news.newcastle.edu.au...
> hi all
>
> i'll rephrase my question about the Singer 287... i found out that it
> was made in 1975.
>
> When did the Singer sewing machine co "lose it"?
>
e...@bellsouth.net
old singer that she adores, it was made in Brazil... I think Singer had some
lemons for plants and put out some bad machines. If yours sews well you did
good. I think it is probably a very good machine, but not old enough to be
collectable or valueble.
Christina
HN67 wrote:
> to Christina: no, it doesn't _say_ fashionmate, it says "GRADUATE"
> (seems funny for some reason). Singer (the company) emailed me that
> it was born in 1975.
>
> Is that old enough to be an okay machine?
>
> re the zig zag stitch- I had already noticed that- it does do a lovely
> zig zag, and a satin stitch, which neither of my other machines does
> (well).
>
> so did i do good?
>
> Hope
>
> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 20:37:41 -0600, "nom...@spam.com"
> <e...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >Singer 287? is that a Fashionmate? If it is I would guess it is a very
> >good machine. I have owned one myself and it made the best zig zag I have
> >used.... Bev.... Tiara? Anyone know if it is a fashionmate? Christina
> >
> >"R. E. Wicker" wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Hope,
> >> It is my opinion it was when Singer branched out into other
> >> fields instead of researching and developing their sewing machine
> >> line. There was a time when I could not imagine owning other than a
> >> Singer. Now I still own three Singers and don't really use any of
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Rhoda
> >> rewi...@worldnet.att.net
> >> http://home.att.net/~rewicker
> >> http://home.att.net/~wickerworks
> >>
> >> On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:55:00 GMT, hn...@mailcity.comPINS (HN67) wrote:
> >>
Tom&Chris Novotny
brought me a lot of grief. Someone once told me that the design of the
slant needle was a bad move on Singer's part. Now I have a Bernina which
brings nothing but joy! But what I wouldn't do for a Featherweight!!
Chris--outside of Pittsburgh
HN67 wrote in message <3827d310...@news.newcastle.edu.au>...
Lynne in Toronto
Well, and then they started to get into that country and western music
that Raggmopp doesn't like..and they REALLY went bad when they started
hanging around in Lubbock Texas, and calling themselves "outlaws"!
Giggles,
Lynne in Toronto
e...@bellsouth.net
slant needle. I have a slant needle 301 that is a solid wonderful machine!
And SO much easier to be accurate in a seam. I suspect if you got all the
lemon touch and sews you would find they were made in the same place or the
parts were. Because I know alot of people who have been useing theirs scince
the late 60's with no problems at all! If I remember correctly a touch and
sew is what our wonderful Rowena was useing until recently when she got her
401 which is also a slant needle. However I am just glad you have a
machine no matter what brand that brings you joy, and makes sewing easy! Isnt
that the best? BTW I have a featherweight, and while it is the cutest
thing I have ever seen, I would take a 301 anyday over a featherweight.
Christina
Ellison
And Singers got so bad they couldn't stay
on key, heck, couldn't even find the key!!
Off-key Singers, that's really a painful experience!
Bad Singers, Bad, Bad!
Ragmop, staying out of Lubbock,
looking for a tuning fork or a pitch pipe
Lynne in Toronto wrote in message <38284D15...@yorku.ca>...
Lynne in Toronto
Now, now, Raggs...that's just your opinion. I have Willie Nelson's
Stardust tape and I love it. If that's off-key, he can sing "off-key"
to me any old time!
Personally, I like Waylon Jennings' new song "Nashville is hard on the
living, but it really speaks well of the dead!" For some strange reason
I can really relate to that!
Cheers,
Lynne in Toronto
Lynne in Toronto
stay on-topic!!!
Hahahahahah!
Woodenspools
They started using plastic innards that wear out.
Mid-Sixties, I guess.
coller <col...@cyberwizards.com.au> wrote in message
news:94212696...@mail.cyberwizards.com.au...
> I was told a few years back, when looking for a new machine, that Singer
> machines 'went bad' when their production factories moved from Japan (?)
to
> Korea, I think it was...Or maybe Taiwan...But anyway, the machines became
> 'cheaper' in more ways than one...>By the way, I bought a Janome and loved
> it!!!
>
> Janet in Oz
> R. E. Wicker wrote in message
<38273c36...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
> > It is my opinion it was when Singer branched out into other
> >fields instead of researching and developing their sewing machine
> >line. There was a time when I could not imagine owning other than a
> >Singer. Now I still own three Singers and don't really use any of
> >them.
> >
> >Rhoda
> >rewi...@worldnet.att.net
> >http://home.att.net/~rewicker
> >http://home.att.net/~wickerworks
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:55:00 GMT, hn...@mailcity.comPINS (HN67) wrote:
> >
Deb
>Howdy!
> And Singers got so bad they couldn't stay
>on key, heck, couldn't even find the key!!
>Off-key Singers, that's really a painful experience!
>Bad Singers, Bad, Bad!
> Ragmop, staying out of Lubbock,
> looking for a tuning fork or a pitch pipe
>
Or a pitch fork? ;-)
Ouch!
--
Deb
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/4237/ (my quilts)
Vickie Y.
country western bars!! <LOL!!>
Yeah, it's always those quiet ones!! <VBEG>
Vickie in Ohio, chuckling over the mental picture!
Singer wrote :
> Y'know, I had to chuckle a little bit as I read this thread. Especially
> some of the posts about hanging out in bars and liking country music!! I
> REALLY went bad when (mumble,mumble,cough,mumble) and THEN I
> (mumble,mumble,mumble), and oh yeah, I can't forget about the time I
> (mumble,mumble,mubmle) (VBEG!)
>
> Singer (Perhaps a FQ from CERTAIN people MIGHT make up for having my good
> name dragged through the dirt! LOL)
> --
> To reply take out the 'spam'
>
> LN in New England <lnsobs...@prodigy.net> wrote in article
> <80996i$65r8$2...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...
Ginger
for drinks.
I dunno, I always found it was danged near to impossible to keep any
pretense of tension about you when you take that many shts and beer
combinations! No wonder they just wouldn't work after that! <BEG>
Ginger
"No man steps in the same river twice. Not the same river. Not the same
man." Heraclitus
HN67
Hope - not the flame war type
On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:56:23 -0500, "LN in New England"
<lnsobs...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>I thought you were telling on OUR Singer. <G> So glad to see this isn't
>another flame war. <he he>
>
>LN
>
>HN67 <hn...@mailcity.comPINS> wrote in message
>news:3827d310...@news.newcastle.edu.au...
Singer
some of the posts about hanging out in bars and liking country music!! I
REALLY went bad when (mumble,mumble,cough,mumble) and THEN I
(mumble,mumble,mumble), and oh yeah, I can't forget about the time I
(mumble,mumble,mubmle) (VBEG!)
Singer (Perhaps a FQ from CERTAIN people MIGHT make up for having my good
name dragged through the dirt! LOL)
--
To reply take out the 'spam'
LN in New England <lnsobs...@prodigy.net> wrote in article
<80996i$65r8$2...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...
DEBI9217
<fmb...@spamhotmail.com> writes:
>
>Y'know, I had to chuckle a little bit as I read this thread. Especially
>some of the posts about hanging out in bars and liking country music!! I
>REALLY went bad when (mumble,mumble,cough,mumble) and THEN I
>(mumble,mumble,mumble), and oh yeah, I can't forget about the time I
>(mumble,mumble,mubmle) (VBEG!)
>
>Singer (Perhaps a FQ from CERTAIN people MIGHT make up for having my good
>name dragged through the dirt! LOL)
>--
But, Singer.... We love you when you're bad! Good can be so darn boring!
<VBG>
Hugs,
Debi
Ellison
I had a choir director, in high school,
who threatened to use a pitch fork on a
couple of the tenors if they didn't get to those
higher notes.
This choir director was ornery that way.
Never listened to country music (I did when
living w/ my parents, but now I don't have to <g>).
He became my father-in-law.
Ragmop, who made him cringe by singing
Patsy Cline faves (and pretty well, too)
Deb wrote in message ...
Two x over
this is true. one beer, one kamikaze, one beer, one kamikaze...it leads a poor
sewing machine down the wrong path!
betsey
Judy Fearn
hn...@mailcity.comPINS (HN67) tapped in the following:
> to Christina: no, it doesn't _say_ fashionmate, it says "GRADUATE"
> (seems funny for some reason). Singer (the company) emailed me that
> it was born in 1975.
>
> Is that old enough to be an okay machine?
In my not-so-humble opinion, the '70s Singers were still good machines.
Mine is a '78. Never had a bit of trouble with it. It came with a
30-year guarantee on the mechanical bits, doesn't need oiling, and doesn't
have tension troubles.
I spoke with a man who used to repair Singers and said they started going
downhill about the time the Athena2000 (Dad replaced Mom's old green 319W
with an Athena) came out.
Judy in MN
(with 5 Singers in the house, most of 'em older than me--and a Kayser and
a Minnesota treadle machine, both in good working order)
jec
I have followed this thread with interest. My parents bought me a
Singer 348 for my15th birthday in the late 60's.
I have only had in in 1X for a tune-up (mostly because I did not know
better and have not used it consistently). And although I use another
machine now, the singer is still in fine working order and the only
problem I can remember is putting the needle in backwards and not
realizing it!
Diane in PA