OT: antique metal bread box, paint is peeling
Quiltshophopper
I have an antique bread box from National Can, looks to be from the
depression era, and there are places where the white paint is peeling off.
Is this paint the lead-based carcenogenic paint?
I mean, I am not going to gnaw on the box, like I did on my crib railing,
but I was wondering how safe it is to have those paint peelings on my
counter top where I make my sandwiches.
thanks
frood
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> There are lots of antique women here, but I wouldn't call them that to their
> faces. Some of them can run fast for old broads.
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Ellison
Have some old woman paint it w/ a clear sealer.
Ask Kathy A which product to use, then send her an FQ
for the good advice. ;-D
Ragmop/Sandy--on my way to antique
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Polly Esther
Meanwhile, back to the question but not exactly, I liked the part where she
said she wasn't going to gnaw on the bread box. Now that's good news.
Polly
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Dee in Oz
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companies came up with reproduction metal cans, complete with cookies. I
bought a few myself. So, the tin you have just ""might" not be an antique.
Yep, the paint on mine is starting chip. HTH
Barbara in SC
Jenn
It is my understanding that even a LITTLE bit of lead paint ingested
can lead to certain irreversible brain damage.
Why take the chance?
As for those antique women? Remember to duck or have a zappy scooter
handy. :-)
Jenn
DrQuilter
Jenn wrote:
> I would go with the other post of at least having it tested.
>
> It is my understanding that even a LITTLE bit of lead paint ingested
> can lead to certain irreversible brain damage.
to an adult?
>
> Why take the chance?
>
> As for those antique women? Remember to duck or have a zappy scooter
> handy. :-)
>
> Jenn
>
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NightMist
<mvig...@dogu.washington.edu> wrote:
>
>
>Jenn wrote:
>
>> I would go with the other post of at least having it tested.
>>
>> It is my understanding that even a LITTLE bit of lead paint ingested
>> can lead to certain irreversible brain damage.
>
>to an adult?
Sure, you know that.
Though maybe the LITTLE doesn't apply as strongly with most adults.
It is a matter of mmgs lead/kg bodyweight, so most adults are not as
likely to be as affected as children.
Since I am an artist, and DH makes a study of all things mystical, I
was perhaps more aware of lead and heavy metal poisoning than average
even before our problems with Ash's lead levels.
I doubt very much that a few small paint chips are going to be
damaging to an adult. On the other hand a few small paint chips
regularly ingested could add up quickly. Artists in the past have
registered high lead levels just from poor clean up procedures on a
regular basis. I would give good odds on a bet that the notable
eccentricity of certain artists had more than a bit to do with the
careless handleing of paints containing toxic pigments, particularly
lead white.
So yeah, talk to Kathy the paint maven and find out what the best
product for sealing a painted metal breadbox is. Then seal it. Your
brain cells will probably thank you.
By the by, Ash's lead levels are still rising.
The problem zones that enviromental heallth found have been taken care
of. They checked the outside of the house and found a small zone on
the outer door frame, and that is it. They are consistantly refusing
to take soil samples or investigate the truck lot behind the house.
We are down to no option but to move I think. Our lad's lead level is
up to 29. It is frustrating, I have been telling them that this is a
neighborhood wide problem almost since we moved here, and they just
don't want to know about it. Moving will not be easy, I have been
looking for a new place for ages and found nothing big enough or
affordable. I would go for too small and cram everybody in if we
could get away with it. With home visits by assorted people working
with Ash I daren't though. This is a serious damned if you do
situation.
NightMist
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DrQuilter
ingesting it. I figured a few microscopic chips (assuming you'd brush
the visible ones off the bread) won't cause that much damage to an adult.
I am sorry to hear about Ash's level rising. I assume from the rest of
your message that you are not sure of the source? What I always
understood was that unless you were going renovations, it was best to
leave things alone since the old lead paint was probably sealed in under
the new layers. Of course, the truck lot sounds like a possible
source... I hope you find a good solution to your living situation.
NightMist wrote:
> It is a matter of mmgs lead/kg bodyweight, so most adults are not as
> likely to be as affected as children.
> By the by, Ash's lead levels are still rising.
> The problem zones that enviromental heallth found have been taken care
> of. They checked the outside of the house and found a small zone on
> the outer door frame, and that is it. They are consistantly refusing
> to take soil samples or investigate the truck lot behind the house.
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NightMist
<mvig...@dogu.washington.edu> wrote:
>That's what I meant, thought the main concern with lead was children
>ingesting it. I figured a few microscopic chips (assuming you'd brush
>the visible ones off the bread) won't cause that much damage to an adult.
Lead, like most heavy metals, can accumulate in the system. Therefore
ingesting small amounts regularly will eventually lead to elevated
levels no matter how large the person is. Children are the usual
focus of attention becuse not only are they small enough to be more
quickly affected, but they are more likely to lick, chew or eat things
that may be contaminated.
At this late date contaminated dust is more an issue in most places.
That is why they use an x-ray process to find lead paint in your
house. It will read under the top layers of paint to find the lead
paint underneath that is decmposeing into the household enviroment.
Of course the current focus in many places is the Hispanic community
because of some of the folk remedies still in use by some people, and
because of the lead content of some religious icons imported in.
For example when enviromental health saw that we had seven day novena
candles burning, they insisted on checking the wicks of all of our
candles. Some of the cheap imported container candles use lead wire
in the wicks instead of zinc. Fortunately all of our candles were
imported from no further away than New Jersey so both wicks and paint
were safe. Next county over they had to get after a small botanica
that was selling litharge.
>
>I am sorry to hear about Ash's level rising. I assume from the rest of
>your message that you are not sure of the source?
Nope.
I am pretty sure it is external to the house, but that doesen't seem
to count for much. Way too many neighborhood children have been
treated for lead poisoning.
>What I always
>understood was that unless you were going renovations, it was best to
>leave things alone since the old lead paint was probably sealed in under
>the new layers.
Now they want it removed. Any lead paint still in or on a house these
days is at least 30 years old and oxidizing.
>Of course, the truck lot sounds like a possible
>source...
The cheap mudak that owns it would be just that likely to slip lead
acetate into his tanks thinking he was thus saving money.