janome 1600p needs a special needle?
Musicmaker
my troubles with the Baby Lock quest are going to roll your eyes and
say it's gotta be user error. but gosh. the dealer has to special
order the foot control cause it's missing when I take it home, and
then it takes me plus friends and family to finally get the grace
frame assembled, during which time a plastic part breaks and has to be
replaced, and weeks later, the frame is loaded, the electricity is
hooked up, the machine is threaded and I finally get ready to quilt,
and no matter what needle I use, at any speed, the top thread
continually breaks. Panic is touching the edges of my consciousness.
Rethread the machine, rethread the bobbin, change the needled, lower
the top tension - all multiple times. no luck. Yes, I pulled the
bobbin thread up from the bottom and laid both threads under the
darning foot. Yes, I put the presser foot down before starting. So I
called the dealer and they tell me that the Janome 1600p takes a
special industrial needle called the dbx-1. ??????????? so I said,
"Don't take this the wrong way, but why didn't you tell me that when I
bought the machine and drove 60 miles home?" "and why wasn't the
right needle in the machine when I took it home? It was the floor
model, after all?" uummm. hhhmmmm.
What's the deal? Any Janome 1600P owners out there who can give me
some tried and true tips to try with my own machine? Anyone want to
come to Charleston IL and teach me how to machine quilt? hhhmmm?
Musicmaker
Taria
Janome usa sight there is an 'Ask Jan' section where you
can ask questions. They answered me back with a great
response fairly quickly. (less than a day) Your dealer
should be able to help you over the phone too.
Good luck, sometimes things like this come in batches.
It will get better and you will probably be up and running
before you know it. (at least I have my fingers crossed
for that)
Taria
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Kiteflyer
industrial needle. Don't know if they are Janome specific or not so you
might be able to get them locally.
Denny
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Karen, Queen of Squishies
Kate XXXXXX
Janome 1600P DBX High-Speed sewing machine, and says that it uses
industrial needles.
It seems to be a pretty common type and fits lots of different machines.
You should maybe think of getting them in boxes of 100 so you don't
run out. They cost less than domestic machine needles in the places
I've found over here. �13.95 for 200 rather than �25 for 100 for
domestic machine needles...
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Musicmaker
was within a few hours, and she confirms what you, Denny, are saying.
The dealer isn't right about the dbx needles - those are for the
"other two" 1600 models. The one I have, Janome 1600p, requires the
hlx5 needles. So I called the dealer back, they hadn't mailed the dbx
needles, and will instead ship me the hlx5's. sheesh. Jan also gave
me a long list of things to check on my machine set up, some I've
done, and some I had no idea, so once I get the needles, I'll try
again.
Musicmaker, thankful for the advice (and hugs) that are always
available here on rctq.
Polly Esther
all the trauma has settled - next time you're having thread problems, add
one more solution to your list.
Sometimes a spool of thread is the guilty party. Now and then I get one
that was made when the thread company was having a really bad day and
nothing is going to make it work. Nothing. Always swap out your top thread
before you abandon ship. Polly
John
The 1600 does in fact take a DBx-1. It is a round shank needle and you
need to be careful when you place it into the clamp and make sure the
the scarf, or cut out for the needle eye is facing toward the right. I
use a set of locking tweezers, to grasp the needle at the scarf and
position it so that the handle of the tweezers is pointing directly at
me. If you do this you will have no problems, but you need to make
sure that however you position the scarf, the cut out for the bobbin
hook is able to pass close to the needle eye to take up the bobbin
thread. Just make sure that the scarf is pointing in the right
direction. If you take off the needle plate and expose the workings it
will become apparent what has to happen when the needle goes up and
down, to make the thread take up happen. Just advance the wheel slowly
so that you can make sure that the needle scarf does not hit the
bobbin hook or you will have lots of little bits flying out of the
machine and creating lots of expensive repairs. It sounds more
complicated that it really is, but it is different than a domestic
home sewing machine with the flat surface that acts as a register for
placement of the needle in the correct position. The 1600 uses that
industrial needle because of the high speed capability of the machine.
Most industrial machines have such high speed capability, or even
higher, up to 5500 stitches per minute, that they require a sturdier
clamping system than is found on domestic machines. Good luck. It
really isn't that difficult once you get the hang of it, and should be
mater of fact when you learn to do it your way.
John
John
I should offer a correction. If you are using the 1600 DB which is
what I have, then it takes the DB-1 needle. If you have the 1600 DBX
then it takes the DBX-1 needle. The only difference in the DB and DBX
is that they are machine specific. You need to know exactly which
machine you have. If it has the thread cutter, it is the DBX. If it is
the bare bones machine without the thread cutter, then it is a DB. and
should take the DB needles. Hope this clarifies the problem.
John
Polly Esther
have a look around, please replace it and cover it before you do attempt to
remove/replace a needle. Dropping a loose needle down into the innards of a
SM is awful. We had to pick up my Bernina and tilt her just every whichaway
to retrieve a dropped needle. (Is whichaway a word?) Polly
John" <wrote, in part>If you take off the needle plate and expose the
Taria
away. I'm hopeful you will be smooth sailing now.
Taria
"Musicmaker" <bett...@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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Witchystitcher
smoothly? Try a different thread. My favorite quilting thread is
so-fine. I can use Masterpiece also when using just the machine, but
not on the frame - it breaks.
John
Actually on that model, it would drop down into the bottom of the
case, and be easily accessible from the fold down trap door of the
access point. The bobbin sits at the end of a shaft and there are few
other "things" around it to get stuck on. It is really a rather simple
mechanism, and totally unlike the normal domestic machine. Not too
much to worry about on that score. But just in case, I suggest you use
a clamping type of tweezers. I use medical hemostats, and they work
great. They are also useful for many other things, in the sewing
studio, I would suggest everybody have a pair.
John
Polly Esther
pliers to remove the foil seal on new jars and bottles in the kitchen. My
fingers have a heap of mileage and just aren't as strong as they used to be.
What brand, style, model whatever do you recommend? I had to use baby food
bananas for nut bread and had a mean time trying to get the little
containers open. Boy, was I glad I didn't have a hungry baby yowling at me.
Polly
"John" <wrote, in part> But just in case, I suggest you use
Kate
gave me a tip. When installing a new needle, use an old one to put in
the eye of the needle so you can lift the new needle in position and
are assured the proper positioning of the eye of the new needle.
If the needle is properly installed and the shuttle hook keeps hitting
the needle then the machine is out of timing and has to be re-timed by
someone that services SM.
Kate T. South Mississippi
Kate XXXXXX
> A warning on that one - if you take off the needle plate to clean or
> just have a look around, please replace it and cover it before you do
> attempt to remove/replace a needle. Dropping a loose needle down into
> the innards of a SM is awful. We had to pick up my Bernina and tilt her
> just every whichaway to retrieve a dropped needle. (Is whichaway a
> word?) Polly
I had to strip off all the covers from the looper area of the Brother
serger to extract a dropped needle... Not exactly fun, but at least I
know how to do that now! And keeping the needle plate on for changing
the needle didn't help. It fell through.
Julia in MN
> Polly Esther wrote:
>> A warning on that one - if you take off the needle plate to clean or
>> just have a look around, please replace it and cover it before you do
>> attempt to remove/replace a needle. Dropping a loose needle down into
>> the innards of a SM is awful. We had to pick up my Bernina and tilt
>> her just every whichaway to retrieve a dropped needle. (Is whichaway
>> a word?) Polly
>
> I had to strip off all the covers from the looper area of the Brother
> serger to extract a dropped needle... Not exactly fun, but at least I
> know how to do that now! And keeping the needle plate on for changing
> the needle didn't help. It fell through.
through. Handy because serger needles aren't real easy to change without
dropping. I do have a little needle holder that helps a lot.
Julia in MN
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