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KCK

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Apr 4, 2001, 7:37:25 PM4/4/01
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Hi All,

My books say to avoid placing seams for backing directly in the center of
the quilt, but do not explain the reason. I'd be interested in learning
why it's better to place the seam(s) off-center. Thanks.
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LN

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Apr 4, 2001, 8:14:11 PM4/4/01
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I think it is for strength. The center prolly gets more strain.

LN

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AliceW

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Apr 4, 2001, 8:15:22 PM4/4/01
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I've heard that you shouldn't put seams for backing or binding on a place
where the quilt would naturally be folded since that puts a lot of stress on
that seam. Makes sense, but others may have differing opinions. Took me a
long time to put a seam off center since I have a thing for symetry, but I
got over it.

Alice from NJ - say hi to my DB and SIL in Houston!

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Kathy Riley

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Apr 4, 2001, 9:39:43 PM4/4/01
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>My books say to avoid placing seams for backing directly in the center of
>the quilt, but do not explain the reason.

There are two reasons that I use a three section backing. I think it looks
nicer, and I don't wind up folding the quilt right along a seam line on the
back of the quilt....less stressful for the quilt.

Kathy


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KCK

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Apr 4, 2001, 9:58:59 PM4/4/01
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I found the answer to my own question, quite by accident, on Bille Lauder's
site http://come.to/quilter where she has many delightful little videos
demonstrating the various techniques of quilting. As she explained, just as
those who just replied, a centered backing seam would be right where the
quilt could be folded repeatedly, thus weakening it. Good to know. ;-)

Now, please tell me...why doesn't anyone ever mention her site more often?
Her little demos are quite informative. Hmmm, I guess I can answer that
question too, as it really requires a fast Internet connection, which only a
few of us seem to have.

Oh well, for anyone who wants a primer in quilting, I'd highly recommend
taking a look.

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George Bernier

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Apr 4, 2001, 10:22:24 PM4/4/01
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This brings up a related question- if you need to piece a border, where do
you place the seam? Also, do you stitch a straight seam or do you stitch it
diagonally like you would for the binding?

Evie
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woodfordfam

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Apr 4, 2001, 10:37:35 PM4/4/01
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Oh brother Evie... I thought I was having enough problems figuring out the
basics of quilting.. then you add all these options / questions!! I may
never get a quilt done!! LOL I am too busy reading all the wonderful
handy hints in here!!! (not to mention rodent chasing and chocolate tasting!
hehe) Well... at least I learned another five or six things today on
quilting... gee I love it here!! <BG>

Cheers from New Zealand

Lauri - who is freezing her adorable butt off at night and melting during
the day... some people are never happy... guess I need another chocolate eh?
hehe


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SandySmth

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Apr 4, 2001, 10:39:48 PM4/4/01
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Must be those quilt police!
Sandy
in Chapel Hill, NC

Kate T.

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Apr 5, 2001, 12:34:56 AM4/5/01
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Hey KCK

Bought a new book today called Mountain Mist Quilt Favorites. In it they
discuss this very question. And I quote, A three-panel backing wears
better and lies flatter than the two-panel type. It avoids a center seam,
which can make a ridge down the middle where the quilt is usually folded.
Unquote. Learned somewhere about this quote ,unquote stuff. Has to be done
.... Yadda, Yadda. Anyway hope this helps.

Kate T.
South Mississippi


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Rachel

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Apr 5, 2001, 2:41:10 AM4/5/01
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KCK, You must have the 'Real Player to veiw her videos. If you d/l the
player will it take the place of the Windows Media Player??

Rachel


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Bernadette Noujaim Baldwin

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Apr 5, 2001, 2:51:20 AM4/5/01
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I don't understand the question - being a bit slow today. I piece a lot
of borders and the seam goes where the seam goes.......

B

Krysia Thompson

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Apr 5, 2001, 4:58:58 AM4/5/01
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 07:51:20 +0100, Bernadette Noujaim Baldwin
<bernadette.n...@bt.com> wrote:

>I don't understand the question - being a bit slow today. I piece a lot
>of borders and the seam goes where the seam goes.......
>
>B
>

since I am B's big sister (the one with the wit, the looks and
the fambly pearls), it must run in the fambly... I don't
understand it either... why would seams wwant to be diagonal as
in binding... where do they go when they go diagonal??

AND I am not being silly (believe me !!!)

Krysia
K.T. - starannie opakowana

Bernadette Noujaim Baldwin

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Apr 5, 2001, 7:54:37 AM4/5/01
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Thank the Lord - someone else as slow as me... oh its me sis should have
known.

B - still puzzled.

Kathy Riley

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Apr 5, 2001, 8:24:03 AM4/5/01
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>> This brings up a related question- if you need to piece a border, where do
>> you place the seam? Also, do you stitch a straight seam or do you stitch it
>> diagonally like you would for the binding?
>>

I think you are referring to seams that are necessary if you have to make a
border piece longer, etc.

I can recall having to do this once. I was able to place the seam near one of
the corners of the quilt. This was less obvious than having it right in the
middle of the borger, in this case. I used a straight seam. The print was a
rather large scale floral, so the seam was unobtrusive.

Tia Mary-remove nekoluvr to reply

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Apr 5, 2001, 8:52:56 AM4/5/01
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>From: "AliceW" cybe...@home.com

>Took me a
>long time to put a seam off center since I have a thing for symetry, but I
>got over it.

Oh Dear -- I am the same way -- everything must be balanced. I am so bad that
I will put TWO parallel seams on my backing so that they can be the same
distance from the center -- thus making them very symmetrical -- LOL!
But then, I do get rather adventursome at times and have been know to
intentionally have just one seam on my backing but I use two different fabrics.
For me, this gives balance without being symmetrical. If I use different
fabrics, I will make the small side of the backing out of a "stronger" looking
fabric and then everything "looks" balanced -- at least to me :-)). CiaoMeow
>^;;^<
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Kathy Riley

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Apr 5, 2001, 9:51:40 AM4/5/01
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>This was less obvious than having it right in the
>middle of the borger, in this case.

Borger?? <eyeroll> It's BORDER

Forgive my poor typing.....I'd rather be quilting.

Krysia Thompson

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Apr 5, 2001, 10:12:22 AM4/5/01
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On 05 Apr 2001 13:51:40 GMT, katq...@aol.com (Kathy Riley)
wrote:

>>This was less obvious than having it right in the
>>middle of the borger, in this case.
>
>Borger?? <eyeroll> It's BORDER
>
>Forgive my poor typing.....I'd rather be quilting.
>
>Kathy
>

At least you've noticed, Kathy... I usually don't - have made
many people very happy with my typos...

Pat Winters

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Apr 5, 2001, 12:03:27 PM4/5/01
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Evie:
Good quiestion and *I* understantd it,
although my 'Kousin By Marriage, Twice
Removed' doesn't. ;-P You ARE talking
about piecing onbe fabric to get sesired
length for a plain border, not about a
patchwork border, right??

I OFTEN have to piece to make a border
in the length I want, because I very
often make my decisions as I go along
and don't usually buy fabric for a
specific project. I try to place the
seam in the lower left area for the left
border, upper right for right border,
far right for top border and far left
for bottom bordr. These seem NOT to be
the places where the viewer (this viewer
anyhow) will rest her eyes. I generally
use a diagonal seam, depending on the
print and on the quantity of fabric.
HTH. PAT in Virginia

Roberta Zollner

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Apr 5, 2001, 11:54:08 AM4/5/01
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For most borders, I just sew it perpendicular and let the chips fall where
they may. But if you had a border fabric with a strong diagonal design, you
might want to piece it diagonally to make the seam less obvious. The genuine
anal retentives, of course, buy a piece of fabric long enough to cut the
borders without seams :-)
Roberta in DK

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Sandy Ellison

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Apr 5, 2001, 1:48:27 PM4/5/01
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Howdy!
I piece the border where it needs it. <G> Big help, huh?
I do try to cut the fabric so that it blends, like I would
when matching wallpaper. Once the quilt is quilted,
the connection/pieced area won't be noticed anyway.
(Or so I choose to believe.)
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George Bernier

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Apr 5, 2001, 4:36:06 PM4/5/01
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Bernadette,
Your reply made me laugh out loud. I guess I didn't word my question very
clearly. I wasn't referring to the seam attaching the border to the main
body of the quilt. I meant where do you place a seam if you need to join
material in order to have the proper length for your border. Does that make
sense?

Evie
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frood

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Apr 5, 2001, 5:09:32 PM4/5/01
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This is how I've done it. (I understood your question just fine. B needs
to pay attention more <G>!) When adding (for example) a 10" piece to the
strip, I put the seam closest to the border at one side, then closest to
the opposite end on the other side. Clear as mud?
__________
| | Top
| |---seam 1
| |
|---seam2 |
|__________| Bottom

Gee, I hope that translates!

George Bernier spoke, and these pearls of wisdom spewed forth...


> Bernadette,
> Your reply made me laugh out loud. I guess I didn't word my question very
> clearly. I wasn't referring to the seam attaching the border to the main
> body of the quilt. I meant where do you place a seam if you need to join
> material in order to have the proper length for your border. Does that make
> sense?
>
> Evie
> "Bernadette Noujaim Baldwin" <bernadette.n...@bt.com> wrote in
> message news:3ACC15...@bt.com...
> > I don't understand the question - being a bit slow today. I piece a lot
> > of borders and the seam goes where the seam goes.......
> >
> > B
> >
> >

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Krysia Thompson

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Apr 5, 2001, 5:18:06 PM4/5/01
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:03:27 GMT, Pat Winters
<pwin...@picusnet.com> wrote:

>Evie:
>Good quiestion and *I* understantd it,
>although my 'Kousin By Marriage, Twice
>Removed' doesn't. ;-P You ARE talking
>about piecing onbe fabric to get sesired
>length for a plain border, not about a
>patchwork border, right??
>

Dear Kouzin! Are you on something (bat juice??)

what on Earth is "piecing onbe fabric"? Not to mention "get
sesired length"?? Explain, pray, yet again...

ducking, levitating and the rest of it

Kouzin Krysia (the one with the wit, the looks and the fambly
pearls. ah, and the one who IS the Typo Queen here!!)
K.T. - starannie opakowana


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Apr 5, 2001, 7:19:58 PM4/5/01
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In article <52opct4kd6d5pg607...@4ax.com>, Krysia Thompson
<Kry...@happyspider.fsnet.co.uk> writes:

>
>what on Earth is "piecing onbe fabric"? Not to mention "get
>sesired length"?? Explain, pray, yet again...
>><<>>>>>>>>>>>

Krysia,
As you can see, most of my posts have those spellings and great phonic
tricks. I blame it on being a Virginia resident. Isn't that right Pat?????

Kris ( in northern Virginia & only about 2 1/2 hrs. from Pat in Yorktown )

Maggiestevens

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Apr 4, 2001, 9:21:06 PM4/4/01
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I usually do a pieced border in 3 pieces with a longer piece as the centre
one. Seems to balance better this way. I do a straight seam, Maggie

Judy Aversa

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You can have both on your computer. You don't have to change your
preferences either. Just open Real Player and copy the url in your
browser and put it in the Open Location place (under File).
Judy

KCK

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Rachel,
Judy is correct. I have both players on my computer. You need to tell Real
Player (when installing it) what it is and is not allowed to take over!

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Pat Winters

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Apr 6, 2001, 8:18:23 AM4/6/01
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Oh Shoot .... Caught out! About 10
minutes after I posted a note I read it
at the NG and saw the great number of
typos ..... so I CANCELED my message.
Unfortunately I was not fast enough and
Kousin Krysia read and saved (?) this
before I canceled!! <LOL>

I position the seams just how Wendy
does, so see the excellent frood post.
IMO those positions are the places least
likely to be noticed. I do use a
diagonal seam when the quantity and the
print permit. I usually design as I sew
and rarely buy fabric for a specific
project, so piecing long borders is a
matter of course for me.

Kousin PAT in Virginia, not short on
fambly looks and talent herself ;-p

Krysia Thompson

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Apr 6, 2001, 9:49:13 AM4/6/01
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:18:23 GMT, Pat Winters
<pwin...@picusnet.com> wrote:

>Oh Shoot .... Caught out! About 10
>minutes after I posted a note I read it
>at the NG and saw the great number of
>typos ..... so I CANCELED my message.
>Unfortunately I was not fast enough and
>Kousin Krysia read and saved (?) this
>before I canceled!! <LOL>
>
>I position the seams just how Wendy
>does, so see the excellent frood post.
>IMO those positions are the places least
>likely to be noticed. I do use a
>diagonal seam when the quantity and the
>print permit. I usually design as I sew
>and rarely buy fabric for a specific
>project, so piecing long borders is a
>matter of course for me.
>
>Kousin PAT in Virginia, not short on
>fambly looks and talent herself ;-p
>
>

The strangest thing is that it suddenly dawned on me what a
diagonal thingie-me-bob is...
it happened last nigh...in bed...

David (DH) had his nose straightened up on Monday, in the
hospital Inside his nose (not the surgeon, the bent bit, between
the nostrils). He is suffering a lot. Has splints in his nose, to
keep it from falling apart, I presume, he can't sleep and those
moments when he can he makes very strange long noises... so can I
sleep next to the nose whistle??
He's in a lot of pain, sits up in bed, and spends several hours
downstairs.. complicated and unpleasant. But he'll get better -
his nose has stopped bleeding already!
K.T. - starannie opakowana

Barbara Pinocci

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Apr 6, 2001, 1:55:54 PM4/6/01
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Hey now, Kris! I am a Virginia resident and I received most of my
education here. I am an excellent speller, thank you very much. Maybe
you and Pat are having trouble today because you haven't been residents
long enough.:*)

Barbara in Virginia

Krysia Thompson

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On 05 Apr 2001 23:19:58 GMT, quilt...@aol.com (QuiltR1024)
wrote:

I must have some Virginian ancestors then... hehehe

orca

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I've never mentioned it because I didn't know it was there. I like
cute li'l Billie, and must go visit her site.
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KCK <kck...@DOGswbell.net> wrote in message
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> I found the answer to my own question, quite by accident, on Bille
Lauder's
> site http://come.to/quilter where she has many delightful little videos
> demonstrating the various techniques of quilting. As she explained, just
as
> those who just replied, a centered backing seam would be right where the
> quilt could be folded repeatedly, thus weakening it. Good to know. ;-)
>
> Now, please tell me...why doesn't anyone ever mention her site more often?
> Her little demos are quite informative. Hmmm, I guess I can answer that
> question too, as it really requires a fast Internet connection, which only
a
> few of us seem to have.
>
> Oh well, for anyone who wants a primer in quilting, I'd highly recommend
> taking a look.
>

> --
>
> KCK (in Texas)
> Take out the DOG before sending email
>
>

> "KCK" <kck...@DOGswbell.net> wrote in message
> news:geOy6.51$WQ5....@nnrp3.sbc.net...
> > Hi All,
> >

> > My books say to avoid placing seams for backing directly in the center
of

> > the quilt, but do not explain the reason. I'd be interested in
learning
> > why it's better to place the seam(s) off-center. Thanks.

Marissa Vignali

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Apr 8, 2001, 11:38:47 AM4/8/01
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she means if you don't have enough fabric for the lenght of the border (one fabric
border, not a pieced one) and you have to piece two pieces together, do you do it
in diagonal so it is less obvious. I think.

Bernadette Noujaim Baldwin wrote:

> I don't understand the question - being a bit slow today. I piece a lot
> of borders and the seam goes where the seam goes.......
>
> B
>
> George Bernier wrote:
> >
> > This brings up a related question- if you need to piece a border, where do
> > you place the seam? Also, do you stitch a straight seam or do you stitch it
> > diagonally like you would for the binding?
> >

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Marissa Vignali

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Apr 8, 2001, 11:37:37 AM4/8/01
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You mean you can piece a border? I just thought you needed to buy more fabric...
:o)

Now, seriously, I really try to use a one piece unless the border calls to be
pieced due to the design.. I hate seams that are not called for by the design!

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