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Wayne and Sharon Harper

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Feb 1, 2002, 3:32:51 PM2/1/02
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Okay, it's reaching that stage. My main project is a "snuggle" car quilt
for my husband's restorable 1947 MG Y. It needs a snuggle quilt because
being that old it has no heating! And from the looks of it the quilt will
be finished before the car :).

I need confirmation on colours. The car will be a sort of pale grey/green
when completed. Henceforth the top of the quilt is a mostly black/lots of
grey/not much white combination. I was thinking of using a pale pastel
green for the backing. And combining black and the same green in the border
for the front. What do you think? All advice appreiated.

TIA
Sharon from Melbourne Australia


LN

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Feb 1, 2002, 5:32:13 PM2/1/02
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I was gonna make a quilt resembling the british flag for my MG,
but changed my mind when we decided to sell it. Who knows. I may
make one someday to remember the MG.


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Ellison

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Feb 1, 2002, 10:52:03 PM2/1/02
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Howdy!
Trade the MG for a PT Cruiser.

Well, you said "All advice appreciated."


Ragmop--PT QLTR--yes, there is a quilt in my Cruiser

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Wayne and Sharon Harper

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Feb 1, 2002, 11:28:02 PM2/1/02
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Well, funny you should say that Ragmop. DH actually test drove a PT cruiser
when he was looking for a new company car. Oh how he loved it, he had plans
for how he'd take the boys at work cruising in it and showing off. He was
so happy.

Then....he took it for a test drive. When he came back to me and the kids
he was almost in tears. I asked what had happened (thinking he'd crashed it
or something) and he said "It's like driving the flintstone's car. We got
to the hill outside the car dealer and it didn't want to go anywhere - it
had no power!". Needless to say he was inconsolable for days - then he
found the 4WD truck that is now his company car.

Sharon from Melbourne Australia

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Ellison

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Feb 2, 2002, 3:12:45 AM2/2/02
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Howdy!
Not that I need to defend the Motor Trend and
Car & Drive Car of the Year (for it's premier year),
but I wonder what people expect from an
"average" American car that is called a "Cruiser"? <g>
It's not a dragster like my sons enjoy watching at the
Texas Motorplex just south of us (NHRA) and it's not
a huge, gas-guzzling SUV, and it's not a rocket.
It does, however (Kayte, Lorilynn--is this true for you?)
pull its own weight everywhere while taking me to the
top of the on-ramp out here on the highway doing about
75 mph in just a few seconds,
and has a reasonably comfortable, roomy ride.
And it's so darned CUTE!!! <G>
However, it's not for everyone, thank goodness,
which means that those drivers who appreciate a good car
(not a 4WD Gargantuan) can have one. ;-P
Mine knows its way to most of the local quilt shops,
w/in a 100-miles radius. Next time, I'm getting the
factory turbo (should be in 2-3 yrs.), color to be determined
then; they no longer make my (dark) Shale Green.

Ragmop--have Cruiser, will shop hop ;-D

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Taria

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Feb 2, 2002, 11:30:41 AM2/2/02
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Check out the Toyota Matrix coming out later this year on the Toyota.com site
. It is the car I want next. I love the PT cruiser but the dealer here not one
that
will do anything but make you crazy. I have missed my Corolla wagon
since I got the Winstar. I am hoping the Matrix will be what I have been looking
for. Not fancy or
anything to look pretentious to be sure, but what I want! (actually a Camry
wagon is what I want but
they don't make those anymore)
Taria

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Scott Fisher

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Feb 2, 2002, 2:14:42 PM2/2/02
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"Wayne and Sharon Harper" <w.sh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Okay, it's reaching that stage. My main project is a "snuggle" car quilt
> for my husband's restorable 1947 MG Y. It needs a snuggle quilt because
> being that old it has no heating! And from the looks of it the quilt will
> be finished before the car :).

That's a safe bet. It's been my experience over the past 20 years that no
classic car restoration is ever FINISHED, unless you sell the car to a
museum. There's always something else to do, something else to improve,
something to make a little better than you were able to make it when you did
that part of the car three years ago and didn't know about using walnut
shells as a blasting medium...

> I need confirmation on colours. The car will be a sort of pale grey/green
> when completed.

Ah, sounds like BMC Almond Green, one of my favorite colors for the Y series
cars. Is your husband's a tourer or a saloon? If it's a saloon, don't
worry about the heating, the exhaust pipe running under the floorboards will
keep your feet warm. :-) What color are you doing the interior -- the
classic combination with Almond Green is a sort of dove grey, which it
sounds like you've selected given the combination you list for the quilt
top.

> Henceforth the top of the quilt is a mostly black/lots of
> grey/not much white combination.

You aren't doing an octagon with the M.G. lettering in the centre? That's
something I always used to want back when the oil that stains my fingers
leaked from cast iron and pressed sheet metal instead of beautifully finned
aluminium sumps. What pattern/block are you thinking of using for the
top -- do you have anything in mind yet? If you don't already know the
significance of the octagon to M.G. lore, well, take a look at the cloisonne
badge up on the grille of your husband's car. Kim used to think about doing
a square quilt with the octagon done in a sort of Irish chain motif, and
individual 1" blocks forming the letters. With a Y Type in almond green and
dove grey, it would be tempting to do black-and-grey Irish chaining for the
letters and octagon on a pale green background. I can guarantee that
thiswould knock the eyes out of the rest of the folks the first time you
take this to an M.G. Car Club meeting.

Even better -- and I realize you may already have a design in mind -- you
could use black, grey and white to give the chaining a "chiseled" or 3-D
look, putting (say) the white along the top and left sides of the
letters/octagon, the grey in the middle, and the black along the right and
lower sides. Make it look embossed, so to speak. Lots of graph paper (real
or virtual) would be burned up on that one!

> I was thinking of using a pale pastel
> green for the backing. And combining black and the same green in the
border
> for the front. What do you think? All advice appreiated.

While you may not want to find an exact match for the paintwork, be sure
they look good together. Oh, and if it is a tourer, you might want to use a
nice warm fleece for the backing.

> TIA
> Sharon from Melbourne Australia

(Oh, and pay no attention to Ragmop. She's a dear, but obviously Doesn't
Get It about classic motoring. :-)

--Scott Fisher
Tualatin, Oregon


Scott Fisher

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> Howdy!
> Trade the MG for a PT Cruiser.

And then buy a nice machine-made acrylic throw to go with it. :-)

--Scott "Or one of those $50 quilts they sell on QVC!" Fisher
Tualatin, Oregon


Wayne and Sharon Harper

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Feb 2, 2002, 3:38:10 PM2/2/02
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I think you misunderstood me Ragmop! He still loves that car more than life
itself. But he often has two or three clients in the car and does a heck of
a lot of driving and at that stage it just didn't quite make company car
standard. He still points them out to me whenever we pass them and says
that if there's ever one made with a stronger motor he will buy it like a
shot. Took me ages to like them but now I think they are quite cute and I
could just see a gorgeous quilted quilt on the back seat!!

Sharon from Melbourne Australia

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Wayne and Sharon Harper

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Feb 2, 2002, 3:49:16 PM2/2/02
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Scott what can I say? Are you an MG nut too? Our "Jezebel" (my husband's
other woman) will actually be painted in Elizabeth Grey/Shires Green combo
which we found were the original colours after much painstaking research (I
found it!). She's a saloon and has been restored from the chassis up,
wires, nuts, rubbers, felt bits you name it she's got new ones! Seems the Y
saloon is as rare as hen's teeth.
The quilt top has been pieced and I've just got the borders to do
tonight/tomorrow night. Do you know of a web site where I can chuck up a
picture for y'all? The squares are 9" made up of 3 rectangles and are place
along sashing with one square's rectangles going III and the next one across
going = and then III and so on. I'm hoping to have the whole lot finished
in mid march, all going well.

Thanks

Sharon from Melbourne AUstralia
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Kathy

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Feb 2, 2002, 4:44:32 PM2/2/02
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Ellison <Elliso...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Next time, I'm getting the
> factory turbo (should be in 2-3 yrs.), color to be determined
> then; they no longer make my (dark) Shale Green

I have to say I've been admiring the Burgundy one with flames. The local
dealership is very cruel, parking it right on Main Street so I see it
every day on my way too and from work. *grin*
--
Kathy Applebaum (Woodland, CA)
longarm machine quilting
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Ellison

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Feb 2, 2002, 4:55:44 PM2/2/02
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Howdy!
I checked the stats, and you Ozzies get a smaller engine
in your Cruisers---Bummer! My darling husband says
that may be so the Fosters runs in it better. <g>

Ragmop---come on over, Sharon, we'll go Cruise some quilt shops <g>

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Ellison

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Feb 2, 2002, 7:22:28 PM2/2/02
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Howdy!
I have your address; I know how to find you.
<g>
I'd have to ask Scott where to find an acrylic throw
or the QVC channel; I only do all-cotton, handquilted, thank you. <G>

Btw, if I was going for a current "classic" car,
it would have to be a Mercedes Benz. Being married to the
Grand Poobah of Mercedes Parts, that's the only way I could
afford to run a classic. <G> And I love old Mercedes cars.
And btw#2, my Shale Green is now one of the Chrysler Collectors Green
editions; they will not make any more Shale Green Cruisers--
I have a classic in the making. ;-P
I still want a factory turbo Cruiser when they start producing them,
in the USA or hecho en Mexico, no le hacer.
Ragmop--have Cruiser, will find you!

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LN

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Feb 2, 2002, 10:11:48 PM2/2/02
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There's a whole bunch of used ones for sale around here. I guess
the novelty has worn off.


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Phyllis Andersen

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Oh, oh. The quilt that Rags sent you might just get repossessed! Better wash
your mouth out with soap, missy! Bigbearlady
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LN

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If there is anything Rags can take its a difference of opinion. As
long as you have one.


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Rag, I'll give you that it's a *cute* lil bug. (Okay, that's cute *big*
bug.<g>) Every time I see one I think of you, as a matter of fact, and
wonder if I should go up to the folks who own it and see if they know how
useful it is for hauling fabric, or if they're letting it go to waste....lol

But you know that problem Sairey has with wuhs? I have one of those
with....um......cars. There, I said it. Lol

I can do minivans or full size vans, if I *have* to (six people in the
house, and they vaguely think they shouldn't have to take three vehicles to
all go the same place....go figure).

I can do trucks with great wondrous joy (just traded in my cute lil toy
truck, er, Ford Ranger Splash, for a Real Truck, i.e., an F150).

But for some reason I've never been able to do those "not-a-van not-a-truck"
vehicles well. (Although I'll admit it can be argued that the PT is
"almost-a-van". <g>)

--pig, still hunting the Perfect Name for the new truck...the last one,
bright yellow, was Sundance. (this one is sage green....)

Wayne and Sharon Harper

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Me too! I love DH's truck (Mitsubishi Challenger) and I love my Hyundai
Sonata (top of the range that fell of the back of a truck into my lap very
cheaply) but I refuse to drive a station wagon - makes me look like a family
person!

Sharon from Melbourne Australia
catchcry as she drives off in her grey Sonata - "Hiyo Silver, AWAAAAAAY"

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Ellison

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Howdy!
I have a truck, too; Ethel is a big '87 Dodge 150,
formerly owned by the city of Granbury as a utlitiy truck;
she's had a hard, tough life. I do not carry fabric in Ethel,
as the boys drive her, and they get her very greasy
(and they smoke). I like Ethel because she reminds
me of the '82 Dodge RamCharger I had for 14 yrs.
(also dark green, my vehicle color of choice), before these
large vehicles were called "SUVs." I loved the RamCharger;
it was my portable craft shop; it hauled everything!
Never did fill her to the full level; always room for a bit more
fabric, craft supplies, antiques, quilting materials.
I looked at the first Dodge Durangos a few years ago; cheap
seats and not enough space for its intentions; they've improved
but I don't want anything that big anymore.
I don't "do" mini-vans; I admired the early ones, so practical.
I prefer to drive a big, multi-passenger van, like the church van.
I've always enjoyed driving pick-ups; my dad was a pick-up
guy, starting w/ his first Studebaker; some things run in the family. <g>
Studebakers were different, stood out in the crowd; so does
the Cruiser, altho' it is technically a car. I also enjoyed the heck
out of the '77 Mercedes 300 diesel, a funky mix of green colors.
Gave it away last year; I have my eyes open for another. ;-P
I have yet to fill the Cruiser w/fabric, but I won't stop trying. <g>
The ChecksMix quilt in the back seat has bits of green in it, a
perfect splash of color on a gray winter day (we don't have many
of those but I live in hope).
I have fabric for a Cruiser/Ragmop quilt.

Ragmop--drive what pleases you, if you can


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robertaN

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So you car types do "drag and brag" too, obviously. (Or should that be drive
and brag, especially if it's drivable?) Do many car aficionados own more
than one that they're restoring? Or is it usually one at a time?
Roberta in DK

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Scott Fisher

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> Scott what can I say? Are you an MG nut too?

I'll always have a soft spot in my head for M.G. cars. :-) My first British
sports car was a bright orange M.G. Midget, one of the last with chrome
bumpers -- I think there's still a picture of it on line, yes here it is,
with Also Kim looking very summer-time-y (it was the end of June, 1985, and
we were on our way to the national convention):

http://www.best.com/~sfisher/kim_garfield.jpg

I sold my last M.G. four years ago right about now, and have gone all-metric
since then -- my current motoring frenzies have been of a more Italian
nature, with a couple of Alfa Romeos and just lately some 41-year-old
air-cooled German thing... :-) But I don't think I'll ever really be done
with M.G.s. I've been thinking that with the climate being as prone to
precipitation as Oregon's is, a nice '71 MGB-GT would be just the thing,
with the overdrive gearbox for relaxed long-distance cruising...

> Our "Jezebel" (my husband's
> other woman) will actually be painted in Elizabeth Grey/Shires Green combo
> which we found were the original colours after much painstaking research
(I
> found it!). She's a saloon and has been restored from the chassis up,
> wires, nuts, rubbers, felt bits you name it she's got new ones! Seems the
Y
> saloon is as rare as hen's teeth.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a saloon "in the flesh," so to speak -- when we
lived in California, we occasionally saw the Y type Tourers at club and
field meets (open cars seem to find their way to California). Kim
occasionally used to want a 1957 or '58 ZB Magnette, though, preferably a
Varitone in chocolate and cream.

> The quilt top has been pieced and I've just got the borders to do
> tonight/tomorrow night. Do you know of a web site where I can chuck up a
> picture for y'all?

I'm hooked on the Webshots (http://www.webshots.com) screen saver/photo
site, and they say something about posting your own photos; you might try
there. We're thinking of using that to put up scans of Tiggrr''s Hugg when
it's done. Also, a friend recently posted a huge selection of her digital
pix to Ofoto. Lots of places for posting free snapshots.

> The squares are 9" made up of 3 rectangles and are place
> along sashing with one square's rectangles going III and the next one
across
> going = and then III and so on.

Sort of basket-weave? Sounds very nice. Are you mixing up the
black/white/grey in each square (sometimes black in the middle, sometimes
white, etc.), or is it always a black/white/grey repeat? Just trying to get
a picture. In either case, I think bringing some of your pale green into
the border sounds very nice. Kim made a Celtic Link quilt many years ago in
grey, with two different black prints as the link fabrics. One link, and
one only, is red -- in the same pattern as the two black prints used in the
rest of the links. Very eye-catching.

> I'm hoping to have the whole lot finished
> in mid march, all going well.

Well, I'll sign off then -- maybe you can finish it in February!

Safety Fast!

--Scott Fisher
Tualatin, Oregon


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> So you car types do "drag and brag" too, obviously. (Or should that be
drive
> and brag, especially if it's drivable?) Do many car aficionados own more
> than one that they're restoring? Or is it usually one at a time?
> Roberta in DK

Don't get me started... :-)

The mantra of the old-car hobby should probably be, "It takes all kinds." I
know of people who don't keep their cars in running condition because the
grease might stain the wheels and cost them points at the show. I respect
the kind of single-minded intensity that is required for that, but I don't
share it. I wouldn't have a non-drivable car for any length of time, apart
from the inevitable lapses when a particular project takes longer than
expected. (My poor 356, for example, needs me to finish putting the new
clutch cable in -- the new one is sitting on the driver's seat, for crying
out loud! All it's going to take is probably an hour of lying on a cold
concrete floor in 35-degree weather while rust falls in my face, what's the
big deal about that?)

How big a "car stash" one has depends on several things, with the price of
real estate being the deciding factor, because it takes more room to house
half-a-dozen cars than it does to house half-a-dozen quilts. I currently
have garage space for two old sports cars at the moment, a 1961 Porsche 356B
which I acquired not long ago, and a 1974 Alfa Romeo Spider which I've owned
for about three years. The Alfa was also my regular car for two out of
those three years; I used it to commute to work. Since I started commuting
in my sheepskin slippers (down the hall, past the coffee pot, and into the
office) about a year ago, I've recently moved the Alfa to a
"pleasure-driving only" insurance policy. Which is actually easy to verify:
if I'm driving the car, it's for pleasure.

Another factor in the car stash is how focused the enthusiast is. There are
people, for example, who collect ONLY Chevrolets, or Beetles, or (for all I
know) Trabants, and wouldn't dream of putting a different marque in the
garage. I'm a lot more open-minded than that, though my area of interest is
in the history of motorsports, and therefore I am more drawn to cars with a
sporting heritage, and to be specific a heritage in European motorsport such
as Grands Prix races, the great endurance races such as the 24 Hours of Le
Mans, or the great city-to-city road races such as the Mille Miglia or its
spiritual relative, the Targa Florio. There are people who collect only
historic racing cars -- that is, cars which have a verified history of
competition, as in "this is the original factory team Fusilli 8C2900 that
Giuseppe Pantaleone drove in the 1957 Tour di Hoople to a hotly contested
second place behind Juan Manuel Fosdick in the Schinckenschnitzel
300LS/MFT." You tend to pay a lot to be able to tell such stories.

One thing that's hard for those who aren't infected to understand, at times:
crawling around under and over a car, taking it apart and putting it back
together and making it work just a little better, look a little cleaner, or
sound a little more melodious than it was when you started, changes you as
much as it changes the car. I got a taste of this almost 20 years ago,
sitting in my little orange M.G. at a stop light. I idly played with the
gas pedal, gave it a tiny nip with the toe of my right foot, and the exhaust
note made a very satisfying vroom...

...and it dawned on me that I knew every linkage in the sequence of events,
from toe to gas pedal to throttle cable to carburetors to valve gear to
muffler to tailpipe, because I had put each of those pieces in place myself,
or adjusted them to work as they were intended, and that it was my own skill
and patience and knowledge that made the car go.

And I have friends who wouldn't know which end of the wrench was the
open-end and which was the box-end, yet they have some very lovely cars that
give them a lot of pleasure. As I say, it takes all kinds.

--Scott Fisher
Tualatin, Oregon


Wayne and Sharon Harper

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I agree Scott it does take all kids...er kinds! My husband is a computer
nut, I'm a full time mum and yet we pulled that MG to bits and then put it
back together. It was the first time I'd changed a tyre in my life - and I
took off four in one day! Unfortunately old Jez has been put on the
backburners for awhile while we are renovating the house, however I have
heard murmurs of her going in for a paint job in the next month or so and
then having her interior done. We did have a website devoted to her but
then we changed servers and the website has gone to God.

I'll pop a photo of her in her original condition (when we got her) onto my
website in the next couple of days.

Also you can see the details from "her" quilt on there too!

Sharon from Melbourne Australia

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LN

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Wanna come get my '79 MGB? It would love to live on the West
Coast.

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My husband wants to insulate and heat our garage. He says it's so
I won't have to get in a cold car. Right! It's so he can work on
his vette or the MG in the winter!

There is something to be said for street catagory in shows. :) You
get to DRIVE them when you want!
--

LN a crazy quilter in NH
"...[they had] leisure to make beautiful things just for the fun
of it..." - The Hobbit, JRR Tolkien

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Pat in Virginia

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Scott Fisher wrote:
>
> "Wayne and Sharon Harper" <w.sh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> > Scott what can I say? Are you an MG nut too?
>
> I'll always have a soft spot in my head for M.G. cars. :-) My first British
> sports car was a bright orange M.G. Midget, one of the last with chrome
> bumpers -- I think there's still a picture of it on line, yes here it is,
> with Also Kim looking very summer-time-y (it was the end of June, 1985, and
> we were on our way to the national convention):
>
> http://www.best.com/~sfisher/kim_garfield.jpg
>
> I sold my last M.G. four years ago right about now, and have gone all-metric
> since then -- my current motoring frenzies have been of a more Italian
> nature, with a couple of Alfa Romeos and just lately some 41-year-old
> air-cooled German thing... :-) But I don't think I'll ever really be done
> with M.G.s. I've been thinking that with the climate being as prone to
> precipitation as Oregon's is, a nice '71 MGB-GT would be just the thing,
> with the overdrive gearbox for relaxed long-distance cruising...
>....cut

Hi Scott.

This is so amazing. I had never seen a photo of Kim,
but had a mental picture of her ...... there is a woman
in my club who has a certain look that made me think
she resembles Kim, which is really rather goofy, I must
say. HOWEVER, this photo of Kim looks a lot like the
local woman does!! Bizarre or what?

So, you want a '71 mbg-gt??? I just so happen to have
an extra one! (It could be a '72, gotta check.) It is
that Strange MG Yellow color. I've been wanting to get
rid of it. Hmmmmmm.

PAT

Kim Fisher

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Pat in Virginia wrote:

> Hi Scott.
>
> This is so amazing. I had never seen a photo of Kim,
> but had a mental picture of her ...... there is a woman
> in my club who has a certain look that made me think
> she resembles Kim, which is really rather goofy, I must
> say. HOWEVER, this photo of Kim looks a lot like the
> local woman does!! Bizarre or what?

Really Bizarre. Of course, I don't look like that anymore. It *was *
over 15 years ago and before all my children.....

Also Kim

Ellison

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Howdy!
It takes all kinds. <G>

*sigh* To be married to a car nut--
it's not always easy, but it's almost always interesting,
right, Kim? <g>
W/ my husband and both sons immersed in the
automotive business, mostly parts, some repairs, and lots
of racing enthusiasm, I find it very easy to justify my
own hobbies and pleasures. Fabric is much cheaper than
high performance racing parts. One fancy, loud exhaust
system for a Honda or Accura (currently what they drive)
is much more trouble and expense than a little ol' stop by
the local quilt shop. Of course, I don't have to justify
my quilting, but will do small comparisons to the automotive
craze--er, enthusiasm, just to make a point (in my favor).

Scott, the one big thing keeping us from collecting our favorite
cars is the insurance that covers a teen-aged driver.
Eli is still 19. The industry really socks it to the under-25 crowd,
esp. the males. With good reason. I know.
We wouldn't have Ethel ('87 Dodge pick-up) if one of the kids
didnt' need a spare set of wheels (because his is not working and he can't
afford to fix or replace it, and he's not driving MY car!).
Yes, it's an indulgence to own & maintain a vehicle I don't even drive
(altho' I sometimes take Ethel for a spin because I love her species),
it means I don't have to constantly provide taxi service or rearrange
my schedule to fit a son's.
Have I reminded you lately that your daughter will soon be
asking to borrow the car? Which car?
Your insurance agent will love you; right now, he/she is reviewing
the records, checking up on who has a teen-ager or almost-teen,
and planning the next swimming pool, w/ a hot tub
and cabana to be added as your 2nd daughter signs on.
You'll get a call asking, "Tell me again, how old is Charlie?"
<G> Been there!
(Of course we made the boys help pay for their insurance,
but the basic policy rate still goes up.)
Unlike the average American, we keep both of our personal
cars in the garage; we have a long driveway w/ a wide parking pad
for additional cars; and we're thinking the smaller side yard
could easily be paved and covered for the day when we can
seriously go into collector mode.
Cheers!
Ragmop--the first car show I went to in Calif. was to see
a bunch of Shelby Cobras and Mustangs; altho' I am not
a Ford fan, Shelbys are different


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robertaN

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Well, passion for something is what makes people interesting. I can
understand the willingness to freeze the butt getting rust in the face, even
though I personally would find other ways to satisfy the passion :-)
Quilting after all tends not to get grease under the nails, thank goodness!
So fixing up cars that will never be driven is kinda like making
wallhangings?
Roberta in DK

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Scott Fisher

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" Ellison" <Elliso...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Howdy!
> It takes all kinds. <G>
>
> *sigh* To be married to a car nut--
> it's not always easy, but it's almost always interesting,
> right, Kim? <g>

I still want the T-shirts that Jeff (my longtime best friend, the previous
owner of my 356; we went through SCCA competition driving school in 1991,
but he's kept racing) and I decided were appropriate for us:

Special Needs Husband

Interpret that any way you choose... :-)

> Have I reminded you lately that your daughter will soon be
> asking to borrow the car? Which car?

For a time this school year (before she made friends with some folks on her
bus), I drove her to and from school in one or the other of the interesting
cars. I noticed a very interesting phenomenon: when I'd drive the Alfa, the
girls at school would comment on what a nice car it was. When I drove the
356, boys would lean out of the windows of the buses and yell "COOL CAR!!!"

It was actually Kim who pointed out that Torrey was asking to drive the 356,
having obviously made the same observation. Yeesh.

(Actually, I've just recently moved both of the old sports cars to
collector-car insurance, at a tremendous savings -- yearly cost for both
cars is about 3/4 of what the MONTHLY payment is on the two Audis on our
regular insurance policy. If you have a fun/enthusiast car that you drive
only for club events, shows, parades, pleasure and the like, look into
this -- I went with Hagerty, http://www.hagerty.com, but there are others.)

> Unlike the average American, we keep both of our personal
> cars in the garage; we have a long driveway w/ a wide parking pad
> for additional cars; and we're thinking the smaller side yard
> could easily be paved and covered for the day when we can
> seriously go into collector mode.

Our thoughts exactly (well, except that we keep the "ordinary" cars in the
driveway for easy access, with the two "cool" cars indoors). Half the time
I park the '83 Audi off the side of our looooooong driveway so I can
negotiate one or the other of the "interesting" cars out of the garage past
it. We're thinking about graveling it in this spring (the Douglas fir on
that side of the yard has done a good job of killing off the grass for us!),
and were just this weekend discussing turning that little stretch of fence
into a vehicle-sized gate, where I could stash a trailer with a race car or
something. Just speaking theoretically, of course. (Though to be honest,
with the way the economy is, the only cars I'm going to be buying for the
next year or so are likely to be made by Mattel... :-)

--Scott Fisher
Tualatin, Oregon


Scott Fisher

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> My husband wants to insulate and heat our garage. He says it's so
> I won't have to get in a cold car. Right! It's so he can work on
> his vette or the MG in the winter!

Ooooooooh, heated garage....

> There is something to be said for street catagory in shows. :) You
> get to DRIVE them when you want!

The Alfa was my everyday car back when I needed a car everyday. As much fun
as these things are to look at, they're meant to move, to be used, to be
enjoyed.

Kinda like quilts...

--Scott Fisher
Tualatin, Oregon


Scott Fisher

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"Pat in Virginia" <pat.q...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> So, you want a '71 mbg-gt??? I just so happen to have
> an extra one! (It could be a '72, gotta check.) It is
> that Strange MG Yellow color. I've been wanting to get
> rid of it. Hmmmmmm.

Don't tempt me. I'm almost stupid enough to travel across country and drive
a 30-year-old British sports car back to Oregon in winter.

But you've already got me running down the mental pluses and minuses of a
'71 versus a '72 ('71 has better engine and ride height, '72 has better
dashboard and seats, but most BGTs had fabric-covered seats ANYWAY...)

They sure made some weird colors in the early Seventies. Two (well, one and
a half :-) of my MGBs were in these weird colors -- one a slightly more
greenish yellow-brown, the other a more brownish yellow-green. Both were
nasty; the second one was a parts car (hence the "and a half" comment
above).

--Scott Fisher
Tualatin, Oregon
with no fractional cars at the moment...


robertaN

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So who gets the Audi? (I Looove my Audi!)
Roberta in DK, a country where all cars are imports

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LN

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That's exactly how I feel. Bob hates to see a Vette out in the
rain or on muddy streets. He freaks. I told him, "Some people can
afford ONE car. Shouldn't they get to drive a Vette?" He doesn't
agree. LOL


--

LN a crazy quilter in NH
"...[they had] leisure to make beautiful things just for the fun
of it..." - The Hobbit, JRR Tolkien

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Patti

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I love mine, too! Much better than my BMW!! (previous car - I don't
have two! <g>)
.
In article <3c600a73$0$252$d40e...@nntp02.dk.telia.net>, robertaN
<rob...@private.dk> writes

>So who gets the Audi? (I Looove my Audi!)
>Roberta in DK, a country where all cars are imports
>
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Best Regards
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Katie & Monty Wilson

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While my first car was a '64 Beetle (red) DH's first car was a '66 MGB (black).
We drove from Kentucky to California and spent a three month honeymoon there.
Loved that car - I kept pinching myself that I was cruising around California in
a convertible! Moved back to Ohio where after a few years DH traded in the MG
on a Porsche. Bad decision. I still miss that convertible - except in the
snow, of course.

Katie in Nebraska

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