Heat n bond question?

[Lenora C]

OK I am looking at this site and they have instructions on heat and
bond method appliqué,
http://home.flash.net/~cddesign/FreezerPaper/How-Fusible.htm
Although I have use other fusible products I have never used heat n
bond. On this site it says that you bond the appliqué to the fabric but
it does not say you turn the edges of your fabric under in any way. I
have always either turned my edges under or satin or blanket stitched
them. They way this makes it sound is you do not do any thing to the
edges you just bond it to the fabric and that is that. Did I miss
something or is this a mistake? Is there a method where you leave your
appliqué edges raw?

Lenora

[Pat Winters]

Lenora:

Good morning! I just visited the site you mention. The
*last* line states that this is the method for Ultra Head &
Bond ... that should have been noted at the start IMO! Ultra
H&B is quite heavy so I guess that is why instructions say
'do not sew.'

I have just finished a quilt using Lite H&B to applique
cats. I satin stitched the edges. Worked very nicely. Lite
H&B does not separate from the paper as the Wonder Under
does, before use. OTOH WU seems easier to use for tracing or
sketching the design.

Once I made a small WH w/ WU & did not finish the edges. It
looks ok but not great. That is fine for seasonal items
only. Again IMO.

HTH, PAT in Virginia

[Countrygirl]

Hi Lenora,
I've used Heat'nBond before on different types of projects...there are 2
types of Heat'n Bond. The lite hold you need to stitch around as it will
peel off the fabric. The ultra hold does not need to be stitched around the
edges...it's impossible to hand stitch around it anyway. Haven't tried to
machine stitch thru it. If you want a finished edge look, I'd go with the
lite and then use a satin or blanket stitch. You do not turn back the edges
when using this.
Hope this helps....
--
Kathy :-)
Friends multiply joy and divide sorrow.
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[The Brown Family]

Hi Lenora,

I've used heat 'n bond lite, it works well. Just don't put your iron too
hot! You can finish the edges with a small zig zag or blanket stitch, it's
great stuff. I did some pillow cases for halloween a couple of years ago
with some kits I purchased at Michaels and ironed it on without sewing
around the edges. My daughers bag was kinda dirty, and I thought they would
all come off when I washed it, but not one did and it still looks great.
It's makes the project a bit stiff with this stuff (if you're doing a quilt
this way, you may want it softer), if you trace your design onto the heat 'n
bond then cut out within 1/4 of your line on the INSIDE of your design and
cut it out, then iron your heat 'n bond onto your fabric, then cut it out on
the line for your design, it's less stiff this way. Good luck!

Lorraine

[J J]

Yes I've done that & it takes away that stiffness somewhat. It also works
well with very tiny satin stitch in metallic or glittery thread. I think
it's wonderful stuff. I've also used Pritt stick (children's glue)when
desperate for items that are not too intricate & it holds well for stitching
with the advantage that it's water soluble afterwards. It may clog up your
needle though.
**Joann**
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[Lenora C]

Ok if you do not need to stitch around it doesn't the fabric fray with
washing?

Lenora

Countrygirl wrote:
>
> Hi Lenora,

> I've used Heat'nBond before on different types of projects...there are 2
> types of Heat'n Bond. The lite hold you need to stitch around as it will
> peel off the fabric. The ultra hold does not need to be stitched around the
> edges...it's impossible to hand stitch around it anyway. Haven't tried to
> machine stitch thru it. If you want a finished edge look, I'd go with the
> lite and then use a satin or blanket stitch. You do not turn back the edges
> when using this.
> Hope this helps....
> --
> Kathy :-)
> Friends multiply joy and divide sorrow.

[The Brown Family]

Nope, I guess the glue from the heat 'n bond stops it from fraying.

Lorraine

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[Lenora C]

Has any one tried this??? What were your results? Any fray?
Lenora

[The Brown Family]

Yeah, I've tried it lots of times. More on wallhangings and pillows, things
that don't have to be washed. Debbie Mumm does this in all her books. That
doesn't mean you can't wash it, just that I haven't much.
Try it on a small project first and see how you like it. I also decorate
gift bags and make cards with heat 'n bond and use a pigma pen to draw
stitches around it, lots of fun.

Lorraine

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[Lenora C]

I am definitely going to have to try this! Thanks!

[Nbhilyard]

DO NOT attempt to sew through Ultra Heat' n'Bond. The adhesive will gum up
your needle terribly. You will not be a happy camper. (Need you ask me how I
learned this?)

Use Ultra when you won't be stitching around the edges. One finish for such
appliques is textile paint.

Use H'n'B Lite for applique you will stitch through, either by machine or by
hand.

I buy both products in 5-yard rolls when they're on sale at TSWLTH.

HTH,

Nann in Lindenhurst, Illinois
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[Krysia Thompson]

On Wed, 10 May 2000 14:03:02 +0100, "J J"
<j...@quidnunc.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Yes I've done that & it takes away that stiffness somewhat. It also works
>well with very tiny satin stitch in metallic or glittery thread. I think
>it's wonderful stuff. I've also used Pritt stick (children's glue)when
>desperate for items that are not too intricate & it holds well for stitching
>with the advantage that it's water soluble afterwards. It may clog up your
>needle though.
>**Joann**

I wonder if Copydex would work in the same way...

Krysia

>The Brown Family <mattawa...@home.com> wrote in message
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>> Hi Lenora,
>>

>> I've used heat 'n bond lite, it works well. Just don't put your iron too
>> hot! You can finish the edges with a small zig zag or blanket stitch,
>it's
>> great stuff. I did some pillow cases for halloween a couple of years ago
>> with some kits I purchased at Michaels and ironed it on without sewing
>> around the edges. My daughers bag was kinda dirty, and I thought they
>would
>> all come off when I washed it, but not one did and it still looks great.
>> It's makes the project a bit stiff with this stuff (if you're doing a
>quilt
>> this way, you may want it softer), if you trace your design onto the heat
>'n
>> bond then cut out within 1/4 of your line on the INSIDE of your design and
>> cut it out, then iron your heat 'n bond onto your fabric, then cut it out
>on
>> the line for your design, it's less stiff this way. Good luck!
>>

>> Lorraine
>>
>> "Lenora C" <quiltn...@home.com> wrote in message

>> news:391944C6...@home.com...
>> > OK I am looking at this site and they have instructions on heat and
>> > bond method appliqué,
>> > http://home.flash.net/~cddesign/FreezerPaper/How-Fusible.htm
>> > Although I have use other fusible products I have never used heat n
>> > bond. On this site it says that you bond the appliqué to the fabric but
>> > it does not say you turn the edges of your fabric under in any way. I
>> > have always either turned my edges under or satin or blanket stitched
>> > them. They way this makes it sound is you do not do any thing to the
>> > edges you just bond it to the fabric and that is that. Did I miss
>> > something or is this a mistake? Is there a method where you leave your
>> > appliqué edges raw?
>> >
>> > Lenora
>>
>>
>

K.T. - starannie opakowana

[Deborah Zukas]

Hi Lenora,

I made a WUH using the Heat and Bond method - what I did was draw the shape
onto the fusible paper, do not cut it out, and then iron onto the fabric (of
course eventhough you're not cutting the shape out, you cut the fusible paper
around the shape so it's larger than the shape, but not much so you don't waste
fabric or fusible paper). Once it has adhered to the fabric through ironing
you cut the shape out, then peel the paper, place it on your background fabric
and iron again.

And you're right, you do not iron the edges under. It worked out very well on
my WUH, the shape was hearts in my case, it was easy and quick.

DebZ

[Susan H Roalofs]

I didn't have very good luck with Heat n Bond. Fraying wasn't the problem, it
didn't stay on!

In article <39198C0B...@home.com>, quiltn...@home.com says...

>
>Has any one tried this??? What were your results? Any fray?
>Lenora
>
>The Brown Family wrote:
>>
>> Nope, I guess the glue from the heat 'n bond stops it from fraying.
>>

>> Lorraine
>>
>> "Lenora C" <quiltn...@home.com> wrote in message

[Lenora C]

You know I wondered about this...any one else with this problem?
Lenora

[The Brown Family]

Yes, I've had that happen too, sometimes it's because my iron is too hot
though.

Lorraine

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[Frank Antalek]

Hi Lenora- anytime I applique, I have always used a machine satin
stitch. It has a much nicer finished look, rather than leave the edges
raw. I have used other bonding products as well, with excellant
results. There are several on the market, and I think I bought them at
JoAnn's . Karen in PA

[Katie & Monty Wilson]

In my (limited) experience with heat n bond, it tends not to stick when the iron has
been held on it too long. For some reason it needs just the lightest pressing to
work best. Try a couple of small samples and see what works the best for you, just
like we try samples of quilt sandwiches to practice machine quilting to check the
settings.

Katie (still in Nebraska)

Lenora C wrote:

> You know I wondered about this...any one else with this problem?
> Lenora
>
> Susan H Roalofs wrote:
> >
> > I didn't have very good luck with Heat n Bond. Fraying wasn't the problem, it
> > didn't stay on!
> >
> > In article <39198C0B...@home.com>, quiltn...@home.com says...
> > >
> > >Has any one tried this??? What were your results? Any fray?
> > >Lenora
> > >
> > >The Brown Family wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Nope, I guess the glue from the heat 'n bond stops it from fraying.
> > >>
> > >> Lorraine
> > >>
> > >> "Lenora C" <quiltn...@home.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:39197A56...@home.com...
> > >> > Ok if you do not need to stitch around it doesn't the fabric fray with
> > >> > washing?
> > >> >
> > >> > Lenora
> > >> >

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[Sue]

I tried it at all different temperatures and still had no luck. I thought
maybe I was sold old product. Nevertheless I never bought it again.

--
Sue
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"The Brown Family" <mattawa...@home.com> wrote in message

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> Yes, I've had that happen too, sometimes it's because my iron is too hot
> though.
>

> Lorraine
>
> "Lenora C" <quiltn...@home.com> wrote in message

> news:391AD978...@home.com...

[Susan Torrens]

When using an iron - on fusible product always read and follow the
instructions. Each product is slightly different. There are many reasons
for it not to stick. If you iron too long, all the glue migrates into the
fabric instead of staying near the surface. If you haven't washed your
fabrics, then sometimes the sizing will prevent a good bond. Also true if
you used fabric softener when washing/drying your fabric. You should always
test with some scraps before trying it on your project. Hope this helps.

--
Susan
I hate housework! You make the bed, you do the dishes--
and six months later you have to start all over again.
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On Wednesday, May 10, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Lenora C wrote:
> OK I am looking at this site and they have instructions on heat and
> bond method appliqué,
> http://home.flash.net/~cddesign/FreezerPaper/How-Fusible.htm
> Although I have use other fusible products I have never used heat n
> bond. On this site it says that you bond the appliqué to the fabric but
> it does not say you turn the edges of your fabric under in any way. I
> have always either turned my edges under or satin or blanket stitched
> them. They way this makes it sound is you do not do any thing to the
> edges you just bond it to the fabric and that is that. Did I miss
> something or is this a mistake? Is there a method where you leave your
> appliqué edges raw?
>
> Lenora

Heat bond lite works good, but DONT use the ultra if you are planning on machine sewing your applique. I did this when I first started appliqueing, thinking that the ultra hold would be better. Yes it holds great but you will have to change needles every 10 minutes, as it clogs the heck out of the needles. personally glue stick is my personal favorite way of holding my applique in place while I am sewing it to my project

[sandydo...@gmail.com]

You can buy this heat and bond at Wal-mart as I use it all the time. You apply it to the back of the fabric, then heat it with an iron, pull off paper and then applique it. Don't think it would work for turning under but works good for blanket stitch or zig zag.
Sandy$