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dha...@academic.csubak.edu

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Apr 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/21/95
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HI. The pattern that I am considering doing is designed for 18 count
black aida. I would like the pattern to be larger and would like to do
it on 14 count aida. Does anyone know if this would look alright or iof
it would distort the picture? Any suggestions? Will I need to use
three strands of floss instead of 2? I usually use 2 on 14 count, bit
have read that a lot of you use 3 for better coverage. Any help would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Deena

Deborah Dawn Johnson

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Apr 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/21/95
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dha...@academic.csubak.edu wrote:
: HI. The pattern that I am considering doing is designed for 18 count


14 count should look just fine. It will have a slight bit less detail
than 18 count would "seem" to have since the stitches are easier to see
on 14 ct.

Two strands of floss are often sufficient, but this depends on the colors
you are working with and the overall effect you want to acheive. Try a
few samples on scraps first, then decide which you think looks nicer.
some colors just don't cover as well as others. Red is almost always a
"thin" color and I like to use an extra strand for working with red. If
you need to cover a dark fabric with light colors you may want to use an
extra strand of floss to limit the shine through of the black.

Rule #1 in needlework, There are no "rules", so do what looks right to you.

Deborah

Mcohn

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Apr 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/22/95
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On 21 Apr 1995 dha...@academic.csubak.edu wrote:

> The pattern that I am considering doing is designed for 18 count
> black aida. I would like the pattern to be larger and would like to do
> it on 14 count aida. Does anyone know if this would look alright or iof
> it would distort the picture?

Using a different size fabric count will not distort the
picture. Since one square on the chart = one stitch, no matter what
count you use the picture will be the same.

I suggest using 3 strands when working on 14 count.

Mary W. Cohn
Raleigh, NC

Beth Frank

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Apr 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/23/95
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One thing to keep in mind when cross stitching on smaller count fabrics
is that the smaller the count (number of fibers per inch) the more of
the background that will show through. The final color seen in a
cross stitch project is usually a shade lighter than the floss used,
because the background "blends" with the floss when your eyes interpret
the color. To make the final color stronger you add more strands of
floss. Laying your stitches will spread them giving you more coverage
and therfore a stronger (darker?) color. I imagine that the color
of the ground fabric will also effect the final color.

Shay Pendray demonstrated this in one of her embroidery studio episodes
where they needlepointed and cross stitched the same graph using the
same floss. The needlepoint piece was very vibrant and the cross stitched
piece had a more gentle color to it.

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Marlene Abriel

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Apr 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/23/95
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dha...@academic.csubak.edu wrote:
: HI. The pattern that I am considering doing is designed for 18 count

: black aida. I would like the pattern to be larger and would like to do
: it on 14 count aida. Does anyone know if this would look alright or iof
: it would distort the picture? Any suggestions? Will I need to use
: three strands of floss instead of 2? I usually use 2 on 14 count, bit
: have read that a lot of you use 3 for better coverage. Any help would
: be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Deena

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dia...@halnet11.city.halifax.ns.ca

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Apr 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/24/95
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dha...@academic.csubak.edu wrote:
: HI. The pattern that I am considering doing is designed for 18 count
: black aida. I would like the pattern to be larger and would like to do
: it on 14 count aida. Does anyone know if this would look alright or iof
: it would distort the picture? Any suggestions? Will I need to use
: three strands of floss instead of 2? I usually use 2 on 14 count, bit
: have read that a lot of you use 3 for better coverage. Any help would
: be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Deena

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I find that 3 strands on 14 count fills in the picture better. 2 strands
makes the colours look faded. 3 strands make it look sharper and clearer.
Other than that, the picture will look just fine.

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Jeanne Leidy

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Apr 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/24/95
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efr...@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Beth Frank) writes:

> One thing to keep in mind when cross stitching on smaller count fabrics
> is that the smaller the count (number of fibers per inch) the more of
> the background that will show through.

Very interesting. Why would that be? I am kind of a coverage freak :-)
and am curious.

- Jeanne
missing something


Jeanne Leidy

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Apr 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/24/95
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jle...@junior.wariat.org (Jeanne Leidy) writes:

>efr...@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Beth Frank) writes:

Oh. Duh. I just realized that I was reading "smaller count" in the
opposite manner the original poster intended. Of course, if you use 2
stands on 14 count, you will see more background than if you
use 2 strands on 16 count, for example.

I should be prevented from posting before I've had my morning coffee. :-)

- Jeanne


ble...@server0.cybernetics.net

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Apr 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/25/95
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>: HI. The pattern that I am considering doing is designed for 18 count
>: black aida. I would like the pattern to be larger and would like to do
>: it on 14 count aida.
It won't distort the picture at all-it will just be bigger in all directions.
Although there is some controversy over two vs three strands on 14ct, if you're
sticking with the black fabric, three would probably be necessay especially with the
lighter colors of floss or you'll get a "dirty" look.
Keep on stitching,
Carol


Andrea Marie Habura

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Apr 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/25/95
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For Jeanne: It's because the thread doesn't get any wider, but the square
it's covering does.

Think about it this way. A cross stitch covers its square by overlapping
two diagonal bands of thread, like so:

--------
\ \/ /
\ \ /
/\ \
/ \ \
/ / \ \

(OK, asymmetrical ASCII art. Sorry. :) ) Notice that there are four triangular
compartments around the X that are not covered.

If you take the same thread width and stretch it over a larger square, you get
something more like this:

\ \ / /
\ \ / /
\ \/ /
\ \ /
\ \
/ \ \
/ /\ \
/ / \ \
/ / \ \

with huge triangular compartments: poor coverage. So, you need to make the
thread thicker.

Andrea


mste...@megamed.com

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Apr 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/27/95
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In article <3n8k3p$e...@nic-nac.CSU.net>, <dha...@academic.csubak.edu> writes:

>
> HI. The pattern that I am considering doing is designed for 18 count
> black aida. I would like the pattern to be larger and would like to do

> it on 14 count aida. Does anyone know if this would look alright or iof
> it would distort the picture? Any suggestions? Will I need to use
> three strands of floss instead of 2? I usually use 2 on 14 count, bit
> have read that a lot of you use 3 for better coverage. Any help would
> be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Deena

To my knowledge, stitcing on a different count just changes the size of the
picture, and does not distort at all. Most leaflets/kits I've seen will list
the fabric count that the display piece was done on, but also lists variations
"just in case"

As for the number of strands, I've learned that I personally prefer 3 strands
when stitching on 14 ct as it does cover better.

Suzanne

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