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Heather Lott

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Jan 11, 2001, 11:11:46 AM1/11/01
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I am trying to whittle down the list of classes I'd like to take at
CATS so I don't have to bother with inventing a machine to duplicate
myself. :D What is "hollie point"? I'd like to avoid taking a class
to learn a technique that I've already learned under another name! :)
I gather it's some form of needle lace or lace-like embroidery (e.g.,
reticella), but I've been unable to find an online explanation. *gasp!
* Does anyone have any info for me? TIA!

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Barbara Joyce

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Jan 11, 2001, 11:36:49 AM1/11/01
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Hi Heather,

I don't think Hollie Point stitch is known by any other name.

If you have a copy of "The Proper Stitch" by Darlene O'Steen, you can
see it there, with wonderful illustrations to teach you how to do it.
It's somewhat like detached buttonhole stitch, but with a knot in each
stitch. I used it most recently in "Bands of Many Colors" by Eileen
Bennett. An acorn band with the bottoms of the acorns done in satin
stitch, and the acorn caps filled in with rows of Hollie Point Stitch.

You can't really see the stitches, but you might want to take a look to
see the overall effect.

http://www.thesamplerhouse.com/bands_of_many_colors.html

If you don't own a copy of "The Proper Stitch," you might be able to
borrow one from your local library, EGA library, etc. The book is now
out of print, but it is still available on CD-ROM. If you need info on
ordering the CD, let me know--I have the info filed away.

Barbara, who really likes doing this stitch, although it is a bit
challenging!

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Dianne Lewandowski

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Jan 11, 2001, 12:46:07 PM1/11/01
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The November/December 2000 issue of "Piecework" has a wonderful article
on hollie point with clear instructions.

It is needlelace with a long straight stitch across the row upon which
is a knotted buttonhole stitch. Very reminiscent of "trellis" stitch
(?)

Dianne

Barbara Joyce wrote:
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> [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
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> Hi Heather,
>
> I don't think Hollie Point stitch is known by any other name.
>
> If you have a copy of "The Proper Stitch" by Darlene O'Steen, you can
> see it there, with wonderful illustrations to teach you how to do it.
> It's somewhat like detached buttonhole stitch, but with a knot in each
> stitch. I used it most recently in "Bands of Many Colors" by Eileen
> Bennett. An acorn band with the bottoms of the acorns done in satin
> stitch, and the acorn caps filled in with rows of Hollie Point Stitch.
>
>

Murraysl

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Jan 11, 2001, 3:14:59 PM1/11/01
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Holliepoint is worked in a cut area of fabric. It is a needle lace filling -
very dense.

See Samples from A to Z by Pamela A Parmal (Museum of fine arts Boston) page
26.

The effect of Holliepoint is a Pin Pricked outline of a bird or flower (missed
stitch) on a very dense parallel rows of button hole stitch to form the back
ground.

Most samples I have seen are on baby clothes and bonnets.

:-)
Sandra
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:-)

Barbara Joyce

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Jan 11, 2001, 4:30:46 PM1/11/01
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Sandra,

With all due respect, I beg to differ with you.

Although it may be true that *sometimes* Hollie point is worked in a
cut area of fabric, this is not always the case. The times I have seen
it used, it is definitely *not* in a cut area of fabric.

Barbara

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Dianne Lewandowski

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Jan 11, 2001, 5:06:07 PM1/11/01
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Well - aren't we all learning today? <very big grin> According to the
Piecework article (and I've only just barely skimmed it), Hollie Point
*was* used as a lace. Much used in bonnets, dresses of the past. They
showed some gorgeous examples, and because of this discussion, I got out
needle/thread/muslin and tried my hand at it this afternoon.

The actual *article* on hollie point was an example used on 28-Lugana
and 30 cordonnet. It was a bib front decoration. Very lovely. And a
great introduction. This example was worked directly over the fabric.
But in the older examples shown in the previous article, it was as
*lace*, meaning - no cloth underneath.

Rather reminded me of filet crochet in miniature. And I imagine one
could take about any pattern in filet crochet and convert it to Hollie
Point.

By the way: t'wasn't easy to do. So anyone that becomes proficient at
this: my hats off to them.

Dianne

A. Kearney

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Jan 11, 2001, 7:34:52 PM1/11/01
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:36:49 -0500, Barbara Joyce <bej...@radix.net>
wrote:

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>Hi Heather,
>
>I don't think Hollie Point stitch is known by any other name.
>
>If you have a copy of "The Proper Stitch" by Darlene O'Steen, you can
>see it there, with wonderful illustrations to teach you how to do it.
>It's somewhat like detached buttonhole stitch, but with a knot in each
>stitch.

Eileen Bennett's Book 1 of Sampler Stitches also explains how to do
this stitch.

I agree with Barbara - it's a challenging stitch but fun to work!

Alison

Murraysl

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Jan 12, 2001, 3:01:22 AM1/12/01
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Yes, you are correct Barbara, hollie Pointe can be worked as a needle lace and
applied to the cut area of fabric too. It is also not strictly speaking button
hole as the thread has an extra twist.

Super effective stitch though, I should imagine that a graphic crochet pattern
can be used too.
:-)
Sandra

Heather Lott

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Jan 16, 2001, 4:43:56 PM1/16/01
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Ladies, thank you all very much for your replies. I have Darlene
O'Steen's book, but I was confused by the photograph of an antique
sampler below the stitch explanation. Darlene explains the stitch as
a "surface" stitch, but the photo was showing a piece with a lacy
area. It all makes sense now. :)

-Heather Lott
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