OT: Return of the King
Mary Murphy
Majmoxie
I am so jealous. Between school stuff, travel, and concert tickets, we aren't
going to get to the theater till MONDAY!
My daughter walked around school yesterday going "la la la" whenever anyone
started to talk about it. An amazing number of high schoolers went to the
midnight shows.
Ellice
> The.Best.Movie.I.Have.EVER.Seen.
THANKS! I can't wait to go see it - I think we'll be there Sat. We have
hockey Fri and Sun.
I loved these books. Had horses named after characters in them,
appropriately, when I was younger - some farm I remember had a stud standing
named Aragorn. And even read the "Nibelungenlied" - for German class, did
some term paper years ago on The Lord of the Rings and The Ring of the
Nibelungs. It's nice that the movies have been so good.
ellice
BBryer
mmu...@pandoassociates.com (Mary Murphy) wrote in message news:<c4416f4.03121...@posting.google.com>...
> The.Best.Movie.I.Have.EVER.Seen.
PaulaB
> The.Best.Movie.I.Have.EVER.Seen.
Agree, almost totally. I could have used another hour or so for the
things in the book that weren't in the movie, however. But we LOVED
it!!! The battle scenes with all the horses were just incredible.
Back tomorrow night, methinks. Paula B.
Ellice
Okay - I don't know how I'm going to wait until Saturday!!!!! And I'm hoping
that works for us.
ellice
Kathleen Griffin
Instead of grading the 10" high stack of papers on my dining table, I
snuck
off to the local movie theatre to see the noon showing of _Lord of the
Rings_. (There is an added advantage: $ 5 admission before 5 PM!) I
first
read Tolkien back in the early 1960s, at the urging of a pen-pal so
enamored of the books that he gave me a paperback set one Christmas.
As so
often happens, I caught the fever even more strongly: my hardcover
copies
were bought December 3, 1977.
Peter Jackson's first film was marvellous, but the second part was
mildly
embarassing. Arwen, stern, beautiful, elven, was not suited to lying
about
with adolescent erotic fantasies! Aragorn's utter love and devotion
were
not portrayed that well either. However, those were the only awkward
bits.
_The Return of the King_ is the best of the three films, though.
Regrettably, Jackson cuts the delicate medieval courtship of Eowyn and
Faramir; he omits the shocking Scouring of the Shire. I liked it
better in
the novel when the Oath-breakers only led Aragorn through the Paths of
the
Dead, and left him to gather human fighters to man the corsair ships,
but
the change kept the atmosphere intact. And I missed Khan Buri Khan
guiding
the Riders of Rohan on secret paths to Gondor.
Anyone who is a little sqeamish should close eyes at the moment when
Smeagol, now definitely Gollum, sinks his teeth into a living fish.
The
other nasty moments are the battle with the giant spider, and the
vertigo
induced as Frodo, Sam, and Gollum climb the stairs leading to Mordor.
That aside, this is an extraordinary achievement. The New Zealand
landscape is still a brilliant choice, conveying all that Northern
world of
Tolkien's. The land is relatively new there, raw in jagged peakes and
remote valleys. Dramatic and rather terrifying, it dwarfs all living
things yet they survive. When the watch-fires are lit and the warning
leaps from peak to peak the most remarkable thing is the great and
lonely
distances between inhabited valleys; the soldiers must march the long
valleys and climb the mountains to bring aid to Minas Tirith.
If the golden halls of Rohan are perfect Northern dreams out of the
sagas,
Morris, and Sigrid Undset's novels, the great city of Minas Tirith are
from
a medieval missal -- the Tower of Babel or the Hanging Gardens. Within
the
city there are enchanting spaces of flowers on balconies, dim
archways,
great piazzas. The visualization of Tolkien's words is perfect.
A great deal of the film moved me to tears. Theoden restored is still
an
aging man, dependent on his niece and nephew. Yet as he leads the Last
Ride of Rohan there is such gallantry that people in the audience were
yelling and applauding like foot soldiers following the horsemen. When
Eowyn, broken
and helm-less, defies the King of the Nazgul, and thrusts her sword
into
the evil thing, there was roaring! Again when Aragorn, battle madness
on
him, leads the charge before Mordor.
The only real problem is that I'll have to see it again, to take in
things
missed on first viewing. This time the vast horrifying elephants and
other
ghastly touches in the battle scenes may not be quite so horrid. Or
maybe
more so? I can still see the heads thrown into Minas Tirith.
Ellice
posted:
> majm...@aol.com (Majmoxie) wrote in message
> news:<20031218074857...@mb-m23.aol.com>...
>>> The.Best.Movie.I.Have.EVER.Seen.
>>
>> I am so jealous. Between school stuff, travel, and concert tickets, we aren't
>> going to get to the theater till MONDAY!
>>
>> My daughter walked around school yesterday going "la la la" whenever anyone
>> started to talk about it. An amazing number of high schoolers went to the
>> midnight shows.
>
Well, trying the virtual "la la la" as I read this post! A small request for
future posters - please, mark your topic if you're giving details of the
movie. Since a lot of us haven't seen the film yet, and many out there
probably didn't read the books and don't know the actual final outcome -
posting all of that without a warning, well.....
So, since I was happily reading along, and then - ooops, even with knowing
the story - I didn't really want to know the details of the film version
until I see it - hence I'm writing this note.
Not saying not to share your opinions, criticism, as you wish - but at least
put a warning in the subject line so that people know you're detailing the
movie.
Ellice
> Instead of grading the 10" high stack of papers on my dining table, I
> snuck
> off to the local movie theatre to see the noon showing of _Lord of the
> Rings_. (There is an added advantage: $ 5 admission before 5 PM!) I
> first
> read Tolkien back in the early 1960s, at the urging of a pen-pal so
> enamored of the books that he gave me a paperback set one Christmas.
> As so
> often happens, I caught the fever even more strongly: my hardcover
> copies
> were bought December 3, 1977.
>
*snip the details*
Morgana
Griffin) wrote:
Hm. Nice review, but there are some people (like me) who have never read the
third book and have yet to see the film. I'd kinda hoped to get to it
without spoilers. Ah well - I suppose I should have asked really.
I'm looking forward to it majorly though - we are going on Saturday night
and it seems an awfully long way off.
-Morgana
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>
> My daughter walked around school yesterday going "la la la" whenever anyone
> started to talk about it. An amazing number of high schoolers went to the
> midnight shows.
>
>
There was an article in our local paper the day after it opened,
interviewing the people first in line to see the movie at it's first
screening at noon in the city. Apparently some of them were a little
young. When asked if there was anywhere they were suppose to be, one guy
answered "In school". I just laughed out loud (I'm not a parent so I
didn't go into the whole "My child WOULD not be skipping schood for
this" thing) he sounded so nonchalent and unapologetic about it. As I
said in some other posts today, my humour may not be entirely mainstream
today, so no point getting righteous on me. ;-)
R
Mary Murphy
But that's what the extended version on DVD will hopefully show!
My daughter is very much into horses- she was green with envy when she
read that there was a casting call in New Zealand for anyone with a
horse to come join the battle scenes- she SO wanted to bring hers and
ride! But being in New England kind of precluded that. But I agree
with you- the whole movie was just indescribable- we left the theatre
wanting to go right back in and see it again.
And I admit to looking at my watch, but only because I didn't want the
movie to end!
I want to watch #1 and #2 (extended versions of course)again, prior to
seeing #3 again.
MM
Cheryl Isaak
c4416f4.0312...@posting.google.com, "Mary Murphy"
<mmu...@pandoassociates.com> wrote:
One of these days, I am going to rent the first two and watch them. DH and
DS got so bored (too grounded in reality to enjoy them) watching the first
one that I could not watch it.
Cheryl
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AHS Region 4, USDA Zone 4B/5A
growing, stitching and reading in NH
Ellice
> On 12/19/03 8:04 AM, in article
> c4416f4.0312...@posting.google.com, "Mary Murphy"
> <mmu...@pandoassociates.com> wrote:
>
>> bs...@midamer.net (PaulaB) wrote in message
>> news:<ab59d345.03121...@posting.google.com>...
>
>>> things in the book that weren't in the movie, however. But we LOVED
>>> it!!! The battle scenes with all the horses were just incredible.
>>> Back tomorrow night, methinks. Paula B.
>>
>> But that's what the extended version on DVD will hopefully show!
>> My daughter is very much into horses- she was green with envy when she
>> read that there was a casting call in New Zealand for anyone with a
>> horse to come join the battle scenes- she SO wanted to bring hers and
>> ride! But being in New England kind of precluded that. But I agree
I am soooooo looking forward to seeing this. Sure would have been an
expensive trailer, air, shipment for you! Last night at our ANG chapter
meeting - it's just a stitch-in, no program in Dec - I sat with a woman I've
become friendly with over the last several months. We spent the entire time
talking horses - didn't get much stitching done. She's got tendonitis,
hasn't ridden her mare in several weeks - I asked who's riding her the last
couple - and she hadn't been able to get anyone in her barn to take her out.
Poor thing - a fellow stitcher I know has a daughter that is on a local
riding team, and works at the Horse Dept in the local PetsMart - so we're
going to hook-up to get her one of these nice 17 yr olds. I felt so bad -
but I'm too out of shape myself right now to jump on her lovely show T-bred.
I think the women around us were laughing because I frogged more than I
stitched. But, we did talk about the gorgeous horse piece class we took at
seminar - with the instructor having a bad week. And what to get my horse
crazy niece for her Bat Mitzvah..
>> with you- the whole movie was just indescribable- we left the theatre
>> wanting to go right back in and see it again.
>> And I admit to looking at my watch, but only because I didn't want the
>> movie to end!
>> I want to watch #1 and #2 (extended versions of course)again, prior to
>> seeing #3 again.
We bought the #2 DVD not long after it was out - and now of course, the even
more extended version is out. Very disturbing ;^)
>
> One of these days, I am going to rent the first two and watch them. DH and
> DS got so bored (too grounded in reality to enjoy them) watching the first
> one that I could not watch it.
Aaack - definitely you have to get them. Do it some dreary day when DH & DS
go to the rink without you. Don't plan on any serious stitching while you're
watching - it's more cuddle up with a blanket on the sofa and watch. With
some hot cocoa.
Really disappointed - forgot - we have a party tomorrow night - so no movie.
CAPS games tonight, Sunday. DH reffin' tomorrow afternoon. I'm guessing I'll
force him to the movie on Monday night. CAPS again on Tuesday. But, hey,
maybe we'll go for Christmas. Speaking of which - I better get on that.
ellice
Joan Erickson
And what to get my horse crazy niece for her Bat Mitzvah..
I don't know much about the Jewish religion so I'm not sure if this
would be an appropriate gift, but here's an idea for *some*time....
My DD is also as horse crazy as I am. I got her the smallest miniature
horse halter I could find. They're *so cute*!!!!! She has it hanging
in her locker at school. :) Not very practical, but fun!
--
Joan
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"Stitch when you are young and poor, frame when you are old and rich."
- Elizabeth's (rctn'r) sister's MIL (Barbara Marr)
Ellice
> Ellice wrote:
>
> And what to get my horse crazy niece for her Bat Mitzvah..
> I don't know much about the Jewish religion so I'm not sure if this
> would be an appropriate gift, but here's an idea for *some*time....
> My DD is also as horse crazy as I am. I got her the smallest miniature
> horse halter I could find. They're *so cute*!!!!! She has it hanging
> in her locker at school. :) Not very practical, but fun!
Very cute idea. Good for a Chanukah gift - not significant enough for the
Bat Mitzvah. I'm actually thinking to make her a horse themed quilt. I had
bought a lovely piece of art for her in Lexington - it's an embossed
(raised) picture of a mare and foal on gorgeous hand-made paper - signed by
the artist - about 10" X 12". I thought I'd frame that, and give it to her -
but I'm not so sure. I know my horrid SIL will be asking me for a painting
that I inherited from my parents. My parents bought it at the big Miami art
show "Beaux Art" - from an artist who'd won some awards - because it
reminded them of me. It's a lovely watercolor - about 18" X 24" of a girl in
profile - next to the horse's head - they both have hair, manes streaming
back to the right - lovely colors. And of course, since I have no children -
the SIL thinks I should give everything to them (she's already stolen
plenty).
My DH is definitely not horse crazy - but this is a condition of our
marriage - he must understand that I am horse crazy like he is hockey crazy.
While I am also hockey crazy - it's an order of magnitude of difference. It
drives me crazy that I'm horseless the past several years, and crazier that
my pal Amanda's mare is standing around bored. But, eventually the business
will make $, and we'll move from this overpriced neighborhood to a bit more
rural - and then I can have a horse again. In the meantime - I'm hoping to
be well enough to start riding again this summer. Who knows.
I'll head out to the nice local saddlery and see if anything strikes my
fancy. Else, she'll just have to live with the IOU for a quilt. I'm sure I
can do it with incorporating some pix of her transferred to fabric. It's
hard because I know the older 2 children pretty well - but this one I don't
know much at all. This is all complicated by my SIL truly being a hateful
person who has worked very hard to separate my DB, and her kids, from anyone
in our family. So, it's a miracle the kids are basically nice, good albeit
spoiled materially, kids. DB hadn't exactly told DN that I was a horse
person (I spent summers at sleep away camp teaching riding, running the
riding program for a few years) since age 6. When we were in FLA last
February, and DN had been riding for several months, and just that last week
started over fencees - we spent some time bonding. I wanted to hear all
about her experiences, etc. Unfortunately - she seems to have picked up the
not quite telling the truth gene - next thing as I'm asking her about her
lessons - is she doing cavaletti,(rails on the ground, or on Xs) riding
dropped stirrups, doing exercises, etc - she tells me she's jumping fences
4.5' high. I just looked at her, and nicely said "Gee, that's very high -
usually you'd be working at about 2', 2'6" - are you sure?" "Oh, yeah -
we're going to ride in the Grand Prix ring soon, and we're already doing at
least 4' - maybe more - the fences are as tall as me (she's about 5') " "Wow
- that's really unusual - I can't wait to come to your lesson" I mean,
honestly - what can you say to a 12 yr old?
Thanks for the suggestion.
ellice
Joan Erickson
> I'm actually thinking to make her a horse themed quilt.
through horse shows transferred onto cloth and made that into a quilt.
It was really cool!
> It's a lovely watercolor - about 18" X 24" of a girl in
> profile - next to the horse's head - they both have hair, manes streaming
> back to the right - lovely colors. And of course, since I have no children -
> the SIL thinks I should give everything to them (she's already stolen
> plenty).
Sounds like a really neat picture! :-p~~~~~~~~~~~ on your nasty SIL!
Make sure she doesn't have a key and access to your house when you're away!
> My DH is definitely not horse crazy - but this is a condition of our
> marriage -
Like ours--only his activities are hunting, fishing and bowling.
> "Oh, yeah - we're going to ride in the Grand Prix ring soon, and
> we're already doing at least 4' - maybe more - the fences are as
> tall as me (she's about 5') " "Wow - that's really unusual - I
> can't wait to come to your lesson" I mean, honestly - what can
> you say to a 12 yr old?
Do try and show up at one of her lessons--*after* reminding her about
the height of the jumps! <beg> I'd love to see her try and back out of
that one! tee hee!
Ellice
> Ellice wrote:
>> I'm actually thinking to make her a horse themed quilt.
> A woman I know had *lots* of pictures of her daughter and her years
> through horse shows transferred onto cloth and made that into a quilt.
> It was really cool!
Thanks - that's what I'm thinking about doing. I've seen a block that is
essentially intertwined horseheads - it's on the Jinny Beyer site, called
Sport (IIRC). I was thinking I could do something with those Blocks, and
perhaps some kind of other block with the centers being photos transferred
onto cloth. I'll keep you posted.
>> It's a lovely watercolor - about 18" X 24" of a girl in
>> profile - next to the horse's head - they both have hair, manes streaming
>> back to the right - lovely colors. And of course, since I have no children -
>> the SIL thinks I should give everything to them (she's already stolen
>> plenty).
> Sounds like a really neat picture! :-p~~~~~~~~~~~ on your nasty SIL!
> Make sure she doesn't have a key and access to your house when you're away!
It is a great painting. My SIL is just a piece of work - the thing she has
done for almost all of my family, and my parent's friends is give us a
consistent bonding topic. Unfortunately - we all are sharing to get the
nasty out of our systems before we deal with them politely.
Not worried about her getting into the house. In the 8 years I lived in MD
(suburban DC) in a nice house, with prior XDH - she never, ever visited.
They'd go to NJ - but never once came to us - we'd see DB when he'd be on a
business trip - he only stayed with us once. In the 7 yrs that we've been in
this house - never one visit. She didn't even come to our wedding in 2002 -
we changed the date to accommodate my DB - we'd worked one date, then my DB
says - "oh, we'll send you a card - we're going to be in Europe" . I said -
we picked the date because you said you were going to Europe 3 weeks before
this. So, I pinned him down, and we worked a date that he would come - told
me that he'd bring eldest Dniece - the SIL couldn't come because the 2 yr
old is very hard to travel with, he's in therapy, etc. Great. DB, and DN (18
at the time) came up on Thursday - stayed til Sunday night - we had a great
time. The funniest part of this - DB says "S------ flew up to NJ a couple of
days ago - she's visiting her dad and her sister while we're here." Of
course, all our friends new that DB had told us she couldn't come because
she didn't want to travel with the baby - but it was okay to go to NJ with
the baby. Like she couldn't have come here, and then just taken the
metroliner to NJ. Honestly.
>
>> My DH is definitely not horse crazy - but this is a condition of our
>> marriage -
> Like ours--only his activities are hunting, fishing and bowling.
Kind of. Except I do hockey with him, just not quite as much - I used to
dream of getting good enough to play with his elite team when he's in goal -
but it's not going to happen. But, he'd be happy to rest-up while I horse
around. It's the money thing, I think - and he knows how time consuming it
is. He just doesn't want to have to "pooper scoop for some horse". But, he
did buy the Expedition with the BIG tow package - so I could trailer ;^)
>> "Oh, yeah - we're going to ride in the Grand Prix ring soon, and
>> we're already doing at least 4' - maybe more - the fences are as
>> tall as me (she's about 5') " "Wow - that's really unusual - I
>> can't wait to come to your lesson" I mean, honestly - what can
>> you say to a 12 yr old?
> Do try and show up at one of her lessons--*after* reminding her about
> the height of the jumps! <beg> I'd love to see her try and back out of
> that one! tee hee!
Absolutely. It's a tough one because I know the hated SIL in her shallow and
immature fashion has always bad-mouthed me to the kids. With the eldest I
was in FL when they were very little, and saw them more often after moving
away - my folks were alive, and we went down to FLA a couple of times a
year. It's hard because the kids want to like you, but when one parent is
saying horrid things that just shouldn't be said in front of children -
regardless - it makes life hard. I'm sure that she just thinks I don't know
anything, and was trying to impress me. I'm definitely planning on spending
some time visiting with her at the barn she hangs out at!
I will say that my DB did say that he's refusing to buy her a horse. Doesn't
know if this is a phase with her, and they do so much other stuff that he
just feels it would be overkill. I was actually glad to hear it. I think
that the SIL would be pushing for it as a status thing - but who knows -
she'd have him looking at some $20K horse for a 13 yr old. If the niece is
such a fine young rider there are plenty of horses to lease, and catch rides
to be gotten, etc.
Thanks for the thoughts. Someone actually sent me the good idea of buying
her a helmet - the GPA one - very good and statusy. But, knowing the SIL -
she probably has one already. But, I may check on this - it was a good idea.
Well, off to do some of the shopping now -
ellice
Laura K
> The.Best.Movie.I.Have.EVER.Seen.
I agree totally! And call my crazy, but I saw the movie twice in 24
hours. I went to a midnight show, then went again Wednesday evening
with my mom and sister. I'm sure I'll see it a couple more times
before the year is over, too. One goal this weekend is to go buy the
soundtrack...especially for Billy's song!
Take care all!
Laura in IL
Pat P
bany faced and not mysterious or regal enough to look at.
Enya herself, who sings one of the songs, would have been far more suitable
as Arwen - at least as far as looks go. Our Susan Maugham (from the escafe
Gold Advert) would have made a wonderful Galadriel. Apart from those, I
loved the first two and can`t wait to see the third one. I`ll wait until the
DVD comes out though - it`s just too much hassle to go to Ipswich for the
cinema.
Is anyone else disappointed that Tom Bombadil was left out?
We`re battening down the hatches here for northerly gales and snow, due to
arrive at any minute.
Pat P
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Jenn Liace
<pat.po...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>it`s just too much hassle to go to Ipswich for the
>cinema.
Hmmm, I have an online friend in another group that lives in
Ipswich.... what a small world. =)
As for ROTK, I haven't seen it yet, too much going on right now to try
and fight crowds both at the stores AND the theaters, but I hope to
see it on the big screen before February comes around.
Jenn L.
http://community.webshots.com/user/jaliace
http://sewu9corn.blogspot.com
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Let it Snow (Of Female Worth - JCS 2002)
Lady of the Flag (Mirabilia)
Darla
>On 12/19/03 4:09 PM,"Joan Erickson" <joan_e...@und.nodak.edu> posted:
>
>> Ellice wrote:
>>> I'm actually thinking to make her a horse themed quilt.
>> A woman I know had *lots* of pictures of her daughter and her years
>> through horse shows transferred onto cloth and made that into a quilt.
>> It was really cool!
>
>Thanks - that's what I'm thinking about doing. I've seen a block that is
>essentially intertwined horseheads - it's on the Jinny Beyer site, called
>Sport (IIRC). I was thinking I could do something with those Blocks, and
>perhaps some kind of other block with the centers being photos transferred
>onto cloth. I'll keep you posted.
I pieced a quilt for my dog breeder, using photos we'd snuck away from
her, with her DH's help. Made all the photos 8x10 (IIRC), and they,
sashed in white, became the centers in a Triple Irish Chain. The very
center photograph is my dog, with the immediate upper left and right
his dam and sire. I'll have to set the scanner up and scan the photo.
Darla
Sacred cows make great hamburgers.
Darla
<sewun...@wedontwantspam.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:25:05 -0000, "Pat P"
><pat.po...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>it`s just too much hassle to go to Ipswich for the
>>cinema.
>
>Hmmm, I have an online friend in another group that lives in
>Ipswich.... what a small world. =)
>
>As for ROTK, I haven't seen it yet, too much going on right now to try
>and fight crowds both at the stores AND the theaters, but I hope to
>see it on the big screen before February comes around.
>
My best friends and I will be going on the 27th.
PaulaB
We saw it opening night (Wed.) and then went again Friday. They (my
three teenagers and their friends) are talking about going again
tomorrow night! I agree, it's not perfect (I am still disappointed at
some of the things they left out that seemed to be important plot
points to me) but it is a very, very good movie. Paula B.