Model Stitchers Getting Short Changed???
Fred
stitching should take a look at this site - Truely Amazing!!
http://www.picturesbycharles.com
If you're already on thin ice
you might as well dance!
W.I.P. - "Fiddler on the Roof", "Romantic Venice",
"Ocean Princess", "Southwest Charm",
"Rainbow Trail", "Indian Pottery", "One Earth" and
"Spirit of the Full Moon".
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xray_momma
I did not know that I have so much money hanging on my walls!
LC aka Fiddy
I assumed from the prices being asked that it was Prince Charles! ROFL...
The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized
LC in Sunny So Cal
Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)
Fred
assuming you had *El Casho* in your pretty little hand. LOL
If you're already on thin ice
you might as well dance!
W.I.P. - "Fiddler on the Roof", "Romantic Venice",
"Ocean Princess", "Southwest Charm",
"Rainbow Trail", "Indian Pottery", "One Earth" and
"Spirit of the Full Moon".
"xray_momma" <xray_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> WOW! Who is this Charles?
> I did not know that I have so much money hanging on my walls!
>
>
georg
> Anyone thinking of selling their work or charging for doing commission/model
> stitching should take a look at this site - Truely Amazing!!
> http://www.picturesbycharles.com
I could understand it if it was huge and original design... but
Dimension kit? lol!
-georg
typing is always harder when the new kitty thinks the fingers on the
keyboard need to be on the nose NOW and chase them around.
Lucretia Borgia
I am not sure this is unrealistic. Too often handwork is sold way
below price because people who do not use their hands think it is
overpriced!
Years ago I was with a friend when I purchased a beautiful quilt. As
we drove home she worked out the costs of the quilt, she had just
completed one and kept detailed records of her expenses and time spent
working on it. She came up with the sum that the person who had worked
mine probably received about a five cents an hour return on her labour.
I believe two things enter into this. One is that people who do not use
their hands believe things are overpriced because they do not understand
how much labour goes into the production.
The other is that some people are incapable of seeing any difference
between one object or another. I overheard a person at a 'craft fair'
pointing out that this stained glass was a much better price! This
stained glass was plastic whereas the other stained glass was the real
McCoy. Not much hope for them but one can understand why they think the
real McCoy is overpriced!
Maybe Charles has figured what that is worth to him and is not prepared
to sell for less. Good on him!
Sheena
p.s. Fred, I tried emailing you a doggie thing I thought Chilkoot would
like but it bounces back. If you would like it, let me know your addy
at nsbu...@yahoo.com.
Caryn
>to sell for less. Good on him!
>
>Sheena
I know I saw a link to this same website months ago, so apparently that is the
case!
Obviously he isn't finding any takers at that price!
Caryn
Blue Wizard Designs
http://hometown.aol.com/crzy4xst/index.html
Updated: 10/8/02
View WIPs at: http://community.webshots.com/user/carynlws (Caryn's UFO's)
Fred
color fading in strong sunlight.
Machine embroidery/stitching I might buy are crests, other than that
embroidery/stitching is easy to spot and I don't care for it.
When it comes to furniture pieces, I can usually smell the formaldehyde
resin in artificial junk from a few feet away. I have a natural hatred for
the stuff that won't survive a heavy dew and warps out of shape.
Maybe I'm in the same category as Charles. I have three foot stools I am
doing for business/pleasure and while I will never attain Piccassio wages
for doing them, they will sell for a minimum of $1800, $15,000 and $20,000
or they become puddy perches - and that is no joke!
I remember one lady? asking me if I would knock off 25% from the price of
one of my early model four footed foot stools. I replied "No problem".
"Which foot do you want me to saw off"? End of conversation.
If you're already on thin ice
you might as well dance!
W.I.P. - "Fiddler on the Roof", "Romantic Venice",
"Ocean Princess", "Southwest Charm",
"Rainbow Trail", "Indian Pottery", "One Earth" and
"Spirit of the Full Moon".
"Lucretia Borgia" <Lucreti...@florence.it> wrote in message
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Bess of Hardwick
> Anyone thinking of selling their work or charging for doing commission/model
> stitching should take a look at this site - Truely Amazing!!
Do you think this might be in reaction to people asking him to stitch
stuff up for them "in his spare time" and "I'll buy the materials" ?
I'll bet he sends them to his website and that ends the conversation.
I agree that those who don't have a clue how much time and energy goes
into needlework are astounded when they are quoted a "realistic"
price.
Best Stitches,
Bess
Fred
You have been awful quiet as of late. I haven't seen you posting anywhere. I
hope everything is ok.
Happy stitching,
If you're already on thin ice
you might as well dance!
W.I.P. - "Fiddler on the Roof", "Romantic Venice",
"Ocean Princess", "Southwest Charm",
"Rainbow Trail", "Indian Pottery", "One Earth" and
"Spirit of the Full Moon".
"Bess of Hardwick" <bess_of_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Dianne Lewandowski
Too often handwork is sold way
> below price because people who do not use their hands think it is
> overpriced!
> The other is that some people are incapable of seeing any difference
> between one object or another. I overheard a person at a 'craft fair'
> pointing out that this stained glass was a much better price! This
> stained glass was plastic whereas the other stained glass was the real
> McCoy. Not much hope for them but one can understand why they think the
> real McCoy is overpriced!
Chinese two-sided embroideries fetch enormous sums of money - in the
tens of thousands. For very small ones, I might add. It matters not
who "designed it" and who "supplied the thread" (thinking about the
comment made, ". . . but a Dimensions kit?!" It has to do with skill.
Our culture does not value these skills. In fact, in the U.S. we
DEvalue them and have for decades. We can make personal choices to
change that. But from some of the posts I've seen even here at RCTN,
RCTS and RCTY through the years, that isn't going to happen anytime
soon. :-)
Dianne
needl...@comcast.net
go see what else he had to offer...and here I am worried because I'm
charging $500.00 from a friend to do a Derwentwater Villaghe English
"Somerset"... Guess my problem (not) is that I'm asking WAAAAAAY to
little....LOL... just like the guy on ebay that is auctioning off chunks of
snow (and ice) from last weeks snow storm that hit us here in the East
Coast, for $77.00 per hunk....
Marc
"xray_momma" <xray_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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needl...@comcast.net
but I think at the normal penny per stitch he would be making a slight
profit on the work, huh>????
Marc
"Fred" <bksti...@mts.net> wrote in message
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Susan in Ontario
Many years ago I stitched Valley of the River Beck twice, once for me and a
second one for my mom. When asked if I would stitch it again I said "Of
course......for $50,000"
I wasn't serious, and I didn't think he was either. Maybe I'd better go
look again. LOL!
Lucretia Borgia
I just looked at it and felt that that is the sum which he feels he
would sell it for - less would not be sufficient. Anything is only
worth what someone will pay for you for it, so he wins. Nobody wants to
pay that, he gets to keep the work. Somebody wants to pay that, then he
has been what he feels is adequately paid for his time and effort.
Sheena
Seanette Blaylock
about Re: Model Stitchers Getting Short Changed???:
> just like the guy on ebay that is auctioning off chunks of
>snow (and ice) from last weeks snow storm that hit us here in the East
>Coast, for $77.00 per hunk....
Is this *serious*? I can't think how he'd ship that to the buyer and
have it arrive in reasonable condition. :-)
--
Seanette Blaylock
WIPs: knitted hat/scarf set
knitted sampler afghan
crocheted sampler afghan
"Pure Elegance" needlepoint stocking [Dimensions Gold]
"Shimmer Snowflakes" felt applique stocking [Bucilla]
"Magic in Motion" cross-stitch [aka Merlin, Laine Gordon/Dimensions]
Dawne Peterson
"Seanette Blaylock" wrote
> >Cost, for $77.00 per hunk (of snow)....
>
> Is this *serious*? I can't think how he'd ship that to the >buyer and
have it arrive in reasonable condition. :-)
hmmmm..... maybe he would pack it in *cheaper* ice (from a previous
storm)???? What would you do with it, once it arrived???
Dawne
Tia Mary-remove nekoluvr to reply
>> Is this *serious*? I can't think how he'd ship that to the >buyer and
>have it arrive in reasonable condition. :-)
>
>hmmmm..... maybe he would pack it in *cheaper* ice (from a previous
>storm)???? What would you do
>with it, once it arrived???
What I want to know is if anyone was stupid enough to actually place a bid!!!
CiaoMeow >^;;^<
.
PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^<
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about their
WHISKERS!!
Nothing is complete without a few cat hairs!
CASin43
large projects - they ask how much would I charge to make for them. My answer
is always - you can't afford me!
I will make and give away for love and if not thanked with appreciation the
next card they get will be rubber stamped!!!
Carol-Ann
10 miles NW of London England
Pat P.
Exactly - at a craft exhibition some time ago, a farmer stopped to admire my
Suffolk Horse and asked me how much I wanted for it (It`s 300 stitches wide)
and was horrified when I said £500, not that I wanted to sell it. He could
see my point when I explained the amount of time that went into designing
and stitching it.
A few weeks ago I heard that the design is being used to make church
kneelers in the church frequented by the owner of the horse on which I
modelled it, although I`m blowed if I can see how they`ll cut it down to
size - and in any case I always thought that they were stitched in wool.
It always fascinates me that people sell rubber stamped cards at craft
fairs. It doesn`t qualify as a real "craft" in my book - what do you think?
Pat P
CASin43
>fairs. It doesn`t qualify as a real "craft" in my book - what do you think?
>
>Pat P
>
>
It certainly is a craft - not the way I do it.
I'm not artistic just a technician. Yesterday I went to a rubbercraft fair in
Stevenage. Boy oh boy there were some crafty people there.
The creative work that goes into these rubber stamped cards is amazing. I could
have watched the demos all day.
Whats more people were spending money like it had just been invented!
Judy Lewis
Creek Family Tree for someone and had a hard time deciding how much to
charge for it. Another person saw the finished product and wanted one too, I
have it started but am waiting for the list of names to go on it.
Is there a "general" rule of thumb for pricing?
LC aka Fiddy
>>fairs. It doesn`t qualify as a real "craft" in my book - what do you think?
The stamping part is really the 'least' of it. Do you feel that following a
pattern to do needlework isn't a craft? I stamp an image onto paper with ink,
but what I do with it AFTER that is the art...or craft...but that's another
whole can o'worms.
I'd be happy to send you something, Pat P, and let you decide for yourself!!
:)
Mira
Stoney
> Creek Family Tree for someone and had a hard time deciding how much to
> charge for it. Another person saw the finished product and wanted one too,
I
> have it started but am waiting for the list of names to go on it.
> Is there a "general" rule of thumb for pricing?
You are all lucky that you can charge your needlework. I was asked by my
sister to stitch a Gathering of Roses by MLI for $75 in Canadian funds. This
project supposed to be stitch by my sister in law but she backed out, not
that she has a lot of projects in her hands already but because I think it's
way too low. My sister's friend/old neighbor Ann asked to stitch it in 11
count so it will be big. I dont want to stitch this but my sister begged me
as her friend is expecting it already as it's been 2 years ago when she
asked. I told my sister that $75 is very cheap, but she thinks Ann might
say that's too much if I will charge more. Ann is a knitter and crocheter
and does different kind of crafts herself but doesn't do cross stitch. But
paying $75 is just like a favor for being a friend/good old neighbor to my
sister when she use to live in that apartment, and she gave a lot of knitted
sweaters and clothes to my niece, sewn curtains 4 the baby's room and some
food and chocolates and cakes she gave as the sample from her little
catering business. So my sister is obliged to return the favor by saying yes
in this project. Ann is my sister' friend, not mine, I am the stitcher not
my sister but a sister is a sister, you help when she is in need. I started
stitching this gathering of roses but because in my mind, my work will be
underpaid so I dont have much enthusiasm and interest of stitching and I
made a lot of mistakes. The child's dress is almost done when I made wrong
in counting so have to remove all the stitches, started the basket of
flowers instead and it was wrong too so I spent a lot of time removing all
the stitches. I got mad had to throw the fabric away, hope the 3rd time is a
charmer.
Mira
Ericka Kammerer
Do you have children or other similar obligations? I would
be tempted in your shoes to make the situation a bit more palatable
by having your sister help "buy" your time by babysitting your kids
or helping out with some other time-consuming things on occasion to
give you more time to stitch. It doesn't even the scales, but it
might make your life a little easier and lead to less possibility
of resentment.
Personally, I just won't work on commission. Life is too
hectic and I don't know when I'll have time to do what. I don't
even plan needlework for gifts anymore. I just do what I feel
like doing and give it to the person when I'm done ;-) Makes
my life much less stressful, though I certainly understand how
one occasionally gets into those tricky family situations. I
haven't run into those with needlework, but I certainly have with
other kinds of time-consuming efforts!
Good luck,
Ericka
Darla
Now it's time for a stamper to step in to object to that comment!
Yes, stampers are using someone else's artwork to create something,
but then, isn't that also true of stitchers? Some rubberstamped
projects are quite elaborate. There's no less love in a stamped card
than in a stitched card; both take time and creativity.
Darla
I want to ally myself with those who, aware of the dangers, and without foolish illusions about what can be accomplished, still want to move on.
-Samuel C. Florman
PENDANT23
I would agree with this. I have seen amazing work with stamping, but none I
could duplicate so there must be some "artistic" talent to it. We have had
scrapbook stores galore open up in our city is the past few years but the
"stamping" store that has been here easily 15 years, has some of the most
outstanding examples.
It is kind of like me and XS. I gave it up 13-15 years ago because I only knew
Walmart stitching was available. When we got on line and I found a larger world
of patterns, designs, techniques, and this board, my passion exploded! That
such artistry was available, not just XXXs. I think stamping must be the same.
You see it in Walmart, chain stores it is one thing. In the hands or a true
efficianado (sp?), it can be amazing.
Shawn
WIP -- New Baby!
Joan Erickson
>
> It is kind of like me and XS. I gave it up 13-15 years ago because I only knew
> Walmart stitching was available. When we got on line and I found a larger world
> of patterns, designs, techniques, and this board, my passion exploded! That
> such artistry was available, not just XXXs.
--
Joan
See my first-ever design here:
http://www.HeritageShoppe.com/heritage/temp/joan1.jpg
"Stitch when you are young and poor, frame when you are old and rich."
- Elizabeth's (rctn'r) sister's MIL (Barbara Marr)
Dianne Lewandowski
> It is kind of like me and XS. I gave it up 13-15 years ago because I only knew
> Walmart stitching was available. When we got on line and I found a larger world
> of patterns, designs, techniques, and this board, my passion exploded! That
> such artistry was available, not just XXXs. I think stamping must be the same.
> You see it in Walmart, chain stores it is one thing. In the hands or a true
> efficianado (sp?), it can be amazing.
Which is why the Internet is so very valuable, and why RCTN is EXTREMELY
valuable. We get the word out. :-)
Dianne
Pat P.
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Now that IS a kind offer - I`d really love it - I really don`t know much
about it apart from the fact that our local craft shop has a lot of average
to very expensive rubber stamps - I just assumed that that was it - you just
stamped it and then perhaps coloured it in. The ones I`ve seen in local
craft fairs weren`t much more than that - but if it is, then I`ve a horrid
feeling you might just start me off on another craze! Maybe I could find an
unusual rubber stamp for you or something in exchange if you let me know the
sort of thing you like. We`ll exchange addresses by email! I promise I
don`t let people down with swaps!
Pat P
LC aka Fiddy
>unusual rubber stamp for you or something in exchange if you let me know the
>sort of thing you like. We`ll exchange addresses by email! I promise I
>don`t let people down with swaps!
Ahem...I'm posting nowadays on RCTN, not RCTRubberstampers....I'd LOVE some
interesting thread or floss or sumpin'!!...
email me...we'll "talk"!!