18 ct Evenweave?
Jeanine3
looking at the requirements list and thinking about getting stuff ready
(I'm excited, okay?). The fabric required is 18ct evenweave. Aside from
Davosa, can anyone tell me any other choices?
Also, is a neutral colour available in Davosa? I don't see anything like
antique white or natural, just definite colours like yellow, etc.
My other thought is: would 36ct be acceptable? Edinburgh Linen comes in
more suitable colours (think: household linens).
One last thing: I remember seeing a definition of "usual stitching
supplies" on a website but don't remember which one. Could anyone point
me in the right direction?
TIA,
Jeanine in Canada
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Charlene Charette
> One last thing: I remember seeing a definition of "usual stitching
> supplies" on a website but don't remember which one. Could anyone point
> me in the right direction?
Is this it?
http://www.needlepoint.org/FAQ/stitching.htm#usual
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Karen C - California
writes:
>The fabric required is 18ct evenweave. Aside from
>Davosa, can anyone tell me any other choices?
Cruise kims-stitchingshop.com. I know I've gotten some 18ct evenweave in a
grab bag from her. (Don't look for "grab bag" on the website. They come
available very rarely.) As I recall, that piece was a very open weave, almost
like burlap, so look carefully at photos and ask for a detailed written
description, specify if you're looking for a tight weave or a loose weave,
before you order. Kim's very good at giving that sort of information.
NAYY, though I'm probably in the running to be her top customer!
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Jeanine3
> I've found 18ct linen at my LNS. I'm sure there are other choices available
> if you do a little looking.
>
I did see 18ct Permin Linen but since the list requires "evenweave" I
was thinking linen was out as a choice, but maybe it would be okay?
I also saw Floba but the colour choice was only "oatmeal". Can anyone
tell me something about Salzburg?
I've never worked with Davosa before. Zweigart's site says its "Ideal
for clothing, pillows and other items in which a soft, supple look is
desired." (thinking table cloths, runners, etc.) So I guess it will be okay.
Thanks to Charlene for the link to "usual stitching supplies" at ANG's
site, it's not the one I remember reading but it works, especially as
it's _their_ classes I'll be taking!
Jeanine in Canada
Caryn
>was thinking linen was out as a choice, but maybe it would be okay?
>
>Jeanine in Canada
>
Linen is an evenweave, but not evenweaves are linen.
Linen refers specifically to fiber from the flax plant. Many "evenweaves" like
lugana or jobelan are made with a mix of fibers.
So, if you can tolerate the slubbiness of linen, than it should work for your
project.
Caryn
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Jenn Ridley
>Jacqueline wrote:
>
>> I've found 18ct linen at my LNS. I'm sure there are other choices available
>> if you do a little looking.
>>
>
>I did see 18ct Permin Linen but since the list requires "evenweave" I
>was thinking linen was out as a choice, but maybe it would be okay?
In this case, evenweave means any fabric with an even weave, where
there are the same number of threads per inch going across the fabric
or up and down.
jenn
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Jeanine3
>there are the same number of threads per inch going across the fabric
>or up and down.
>jenn
>--
>Jenn Ridley
Thanks Jenn - so I understand this to mean that 18ct linen is okay, but
36ct would be unacceptable?
Jeanine in Canada
Dianne Lewandowski
sampler? Counted stitching i.e., blackwork?
If so, an 18-count even weave is just as acceptable for this type of
embroidery as a 36-count even weave. The only difference is that you
will have twice the number of stitches in a square inch when using 36-count.
You can purchase plain, even weave in different counts and different
fibers. You just need to decide how good your vision is (it's harder to
count 36-ct than an 18-ct), and then decide whether you want linen,
cotton, rayon, silk, wool, or blends of these fibers. What you choose
is personal preference coupled by experience. Some people just love the
feel of Lugana, for instance, and others like the look and feel of
Belfast (a 32-count).
You can do just about any design in just about any count. The only
difference will be the ultimate size. If a pattern recommends doing a
design on 18-count, and the resulting size will be 4 x 8, if you choose
a 36-count, the resulting size will be 2 x 4. But there will be the
same number of stitches . . . just tinier ones on the 36-count.
Dianne
NancySue
>
>Even though my ANG Seminar classes are still three months away, I was
>looking at the requirements list and thinking about getting stuff ready
>(I'm excited, okay?). The fabric required is 18ct evenweave. Aside from
>Davosa, can anyone tell me any other choices?
Since this is an ANG seminar, it could mean 18 count canvas. The student
letter you receive from the teacher should give more specifics. If you still
have questions, ask her/him. They are always happy to help.
Looking thru the seminar brochure, my guess is that you are in one of Vima
Micheli's classes. If so, you could probably substitute 25 count linen or
Congress cloth. But again, ask the teacher.
HTH
Nancy Sue,
Professional Project Starter, unable to begin a new project at ANG this year.
Jeanine3
It is many different types of Italian Needlework that I'll be doing,
some drawn thread, some surface embroidery. The class requirements just
say "18ct evenweave" and I was wondering if there was some choice around
for 18ct evenweave besides Davosa and I guess what I was thinking was 36
ct would be finer (ie: less visible holes) for table linen than 18 ct. I
don't believe there is much counted work, but I could be completely
wrong. As a teacher, you must list course requirements for a reason (I'm
thinking) but maybe it's just a guideline? Never having attended one of
these things before, I guess I should just bring what's asked and can
experiment on my own later.
I have the same problem with "stretcher bars" being required when I have
scroll bars and a lap stand which (to my mind) should work just as well,
however, I _AM_ going to these classes to learn, so here again, maybe I
should just follow instructions. ;-)
Also since I don't _have_ any 18ct evenweave on hand or 6x10" stretcher
bars, I'll need to go out and buy some (read: enter a LNS ***credit card
danger***).
LOL if only I was worrying about my travel arrangements as much as my
supplies list! There seems to be no way to get to Reno from Vancouver
without spending from 1-2 whole days traveling and connecting!
Jeanine in Canada
P.S. do you know what a "frame weight" is?
Jeanine3
> Since this is an ANG seminar, it could mean 18 count canvas. The student
> letter you receive from the teacher should give more specifics. If you still
> have questions, ask her/him. They are always happy to help.
>
> Looking thru the seminar brochure, my guess is that you are in one of Vima
> Micheli's classes. If so, you could probably substitute 25 count linen or
> Congress cloth. But again, ask the teacher.
>
> HTH
>
> Nancy Sue,
> Professional Project Starter, unable to begin a new project at ANG this year.
>
>
Ahhh, there will be a letter? In my excitement I must have missed
reading that part. LOL. I really am a novice at this Seminar stuff.
Yes, I'm taking both of Vima Micheli's classes. I thought that
contacting her about this was just proving what a newbie I was and
unimportant really, I should just learn to do what I'm told! I'll wait
to buy fabric until I get a letter, or at least until sometime closer to
the date... darn, no excuse for a trip to the LNS! ;-)
Jeanine in Canada
Karen C - California
writes:
>There seems to be no way to get to Reno from Vancouver
>without spending from 1-2 whole days traveling and connecting!
Could you fly into San Francisco or Sacramento and rent a car to drive to Reno?
It's about 2 hours drive from Sac and 4-5 hours from SF.
NancySue
>Ahhh, there will be a letter? In my excitement I must have missed
>reading that part. LOL. I really am a novice at this Seminar stuff.
>Yes, I'm taking both of Vima Micheli's classes. I thought that
>contacting her about this was just proving what a newbie I was and
>unimportant really, I should just learn to do what I'm told! I'll wait
>to buy fabric until I get a letter, or at least until sometime closer to
>the date... darn, no excuse for a trip to the LNS! ;-)
You didn't miss reading it. Although not mentioned in the brochure, it is
standard procedure (and I believe required by the teaching contract) for ANG &
EGA teachers to send an introductory letter to their students. They are
beginning to come by e-mail rather than delivered by the post office.
Vima is wonderful! You can ask her anything. You will have a great time and
learn sooooo much. Her Italian Needlework Techniques class would have been my
first choice this year if I didn't have a conflict.
Another hint for a newbie: Take plenty of cash with you to Needlework Expo! as
most vendors do not take credit cards. Also, take a shopping bag of some sort
to carry all of the goodies you find.
Have a wonderful time in Reno!
Nancy Sue,
Professional Project Starter
Nancy Sue,
Professional Project Starter
NancySue
>I have the same problem with "stretcher bars" being required when I have
>scroll bars and a lap stand which (to my mind) should work just as well,
>however, I _AM_ going to these classes to learn, so here again, maybe I
>should just follow instructions. ;-)
>P.S. do you know what a "frame weight" is?
Scroll bars & a lap stand work just as well as stretcher bars when you are at
home on your own time. But in a class situation, you want to be able to switch
between canvases quickly. Have more than one set of stretcher bars mounted
with your canvas pieces.
A clamp or stand is one way to hold your mounted canvas steady while you
stitch. A frame weight is another way. It is like a bean bag, only the
filling is heavy and you place it on the corner of the frame as it exrtends
over the end of the table while you stitch. Some folks use un-oiled shot, but
that's not a good option these days if you have to go thru airport security.
Sand or aquarium gravel are good alternatives.
HTH
Beth Katz
I had never heard of frame weights. Sounds like something we could
decorate with stitching. If it were made with microwavable threads
and filled with rice, you could toss it in the microwave and use it
as a heating bag for stiff hands.
Here's a picture of a stitched one:
http://www.needlepoint.org/Seminar-04/Classes/2day/23051.htm
Tink Boord-Dill has a whimsical one:
http://www.tinkbd.com/weighta.htm
Amybear Needlepoints has a Dan'l Webster, the frame-weight frog:
http://www.berks.com/amybear/danl.htm
More stash to ponder. By the way, stretcher bars are inexpensive.
--
Beth Katz
NancySue wrote:
Dianne Lewandowski
class. It would have been fine, except the teacher couldn't answer my
questions i.e., if the stitch is over 2 on 32-count, should I go over 4?
Should I reduce the design in half? So, depending upon what you're
learning, the teacher might not have answers for a different cloth!!
Teachers will frequently teach on coarser grounds because you're not
spending so much time doing eye gymnastics. Still, surface embroidery
just isn't the same on 18-count, unless it's things like chain, coral -
in other words, stitches that you can readily count (chain stitch or
satin stitch over 2).
For the class, I'd definitely recommend using what's suggested. Davosa
is nice. I just had some out last night to make a sample for a gal I'm
trying to help. A 20-count might give you more fabric choices.
25-count Dublin is also easy to count. But not knowing the teacher and
subject matter, it's hard for me to make a recommendation. If you've
never, ever done any of this embroidery before, definitely stick with
the coarser grounds.
Dianne
Jacqueline
work on 36-ct when 18-ct is listed, the finished piece will be much smaller,
1/4 of the intended size.
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"Jeanine3" <jea...@netscape.net> wrote in message There seems to be no way
to get to Reno from Vancouver
> without spending from 1-2 whole days traveling and connecting!
Alaska Airlines connecting through Seattle takes between four and six hours.
emerald
Jeanine3
to SF, I'd want to go to Lacis in Berkeley - the temptation might be too
great to fight... I'll have to think about that one (scheme, scheme...
how can I work that in?) LOL Karen, what have you DONE?!
:-0
Jeanine in Canada
Jeanine3
you know? I have never felt comfortable carrying around lots of cash...
I'm SO looking forward to these classes. I have been trying to learn
many italian needlework techniques on my own for some time and this is
like a dream come true!
Jeanine in Canada
Jeanine3
things that looked like paper weights and I couldn't IMAGINE how (or
why) to attach them to stretcher bars. How clueless can you get? There
used to be two ladies at Guild who clamped their frames to the table
edge - I get the whole thing now. :-)
Empowered with this new knowledge I'm off to think this over and wonder
if I need to start yet another new project to stitch myself a frame
weight. It would give me the perfect opportunity to experiment with
canvaswork...
Jeanine in Canada
Jeanine3
plenty of time to experiment on my own later. Sound advice and worth taking.
I appreciate the input!
Jeanine in Canada
Jeanine3
shuttle service between Seatac and Tacoma?)... I think I'll have to
break down and go to a travel agent!
Jeanine in Canada
Karen C - California
writes:
>LOL Karen, what have you DONE?!
Moi? Professional Enabler?
And I haven't even pointed out that to get from SF to Reno you will drive right
through Sacramento, which will require you to get off the freeway and go with
me to Fuzzy Penguin as well. :)
NancySue
>LOL NancySue! Thanks for the tips. Will they take traveller's cheques do
>you know? I have never felt comfortable carrying around lots of cash...
IMO, most vendors will accept traveler's checks in US dollars.
Another option for international travel is to use your ATM card. Put it in a
bank in a different country and get out currency from that country. The
exchange rate is reasonable and the fees are low. I don't know if there are
any banks within walking distance of the hotel in Reno. There are probably
ATM's near the gambling venues, but their fees may be higher than a bank's.
If you use a credit card from another country, a merchant may charge you
additional fees that they have to pay. You may want to check with the hotel
for their policy.
If you think the ATM route will work for you, you can ask your hometown bank to
*temporarily* increase the amount of cash you can get on a single day.
If you have more specific questions, you can join
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reno_Ndpt_Seminar_2004 . This Yahoo group was
established to divert seminar discussions from the official ANG message board.
HTH
mickey
I just did a quick check (using random dates) on expedia.com and
united.com; both had flights from Vancouver to Reno via Seattle or via
San Francisco - and at fairly reasonable prices, IMO. You may want to
take a look there before contacting a travel agent. After all, you can
save their fee for more stash, right? Oh, and check right after
midnight. Tickets often drop in price quite significantly at that
time... haven't a clue as to why, but it's worked for me in the past.
Hope this helps!
--Mickey
Lynda Wiener
non-stop. The fares range from $72 (infants and seniors) to $113 (full,
unrestricted) one way.
Lynda
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Jeanine3
on the web. How will I ever be able to afford this trip? Ahhhhhhhhhh!
;-)
Jeanine in Canada
Karen C - California wrote:
Jeanine3
> If you think the ATM route will work for you, you can ask your hometown bank to
> *temporarily* increase the amount of cash you can get on a single day.
>
Wow, you know me, you really, really KNOW me! LOL!
Jeanine in Canada
Jeanine3
Jeanine in Canada
Karen C - California
<mickey183...@yahoo.com> writes:
> Oh, and check right after
>midnight. Tickets often drop in price quite significantly at that
>time... haven't a clue as to why
Because that's when reserved, but unpaid-for, tickets are released for re-sale.
Ruthie
> IMO, most vendors will accept traveler's checks in US dollars.
>
<snip> There are probably
> ATM's near the gambling venues, but their fees may be higher than a bank's.
Most hotels big enough to hold a conference have at least one ATM tucked
away somewhere.
Travellers' checks might not be an option - my Hobby Lobby won't take
them, because there have been a lot of forgeries.
So, Jeanine, check out the whole deal with your bank, especially which
US system they work with, then ask the host hotel where the nearest
compatible one is.
I have a card for my savings account! Now all I have to do is beef it up
until it will stand one of these conferences. Probably take a couple of
years. Or more. Of course, I could always <shudder> get a JOB!
Ruthie, staying in Colorado, 'cuz DH didn't get the job in MO
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Jeanine3
Although... how much do you think you'd _need_ LOL! Seriously... STOP
LAUGHING! What would you budget yourself for a 10 day Stitcher's Seminar
with a market night?
I'm assuming there will be things there that I'll want to buy, but will
there be things there I'll want to buy _because_ I won't be able to get
them anywhere else or anywhere else for a certain price?
Will I be a lost cause in self-control?
Will I forfeit my daily food allowance?
I'd love to hear some stories/opinions/ideas!
Jeanine in Canada
Ruthie
knitters' ones I have gone broke at, I mean, "attended." Also the
national Bull Terrier & Mini B.T. shows I have attended.
Jeanine3 wrote:
> how much do you think you'd _need_ LOL! Seriously... STOP
> LAUGHING! What would you budget yourself for a 10 day Stitcher's Seminar
> with a market night?
As much as I can afford!!! I have spent anywhere from $50 to $450 at
various knitters' marts.
> I'm assuming there will be things there that I'll want to buy, but will
> there be things there I'll want to buy _because_ I won't be able to get
> them anywhere else or anywhere else for a certain price?
Yes!
> Will I be a lost cause in self-control?
Probably! I got better as I went on, though.
> Will I forfeit my daily food allowance?
If you need to!
> I'd love to hear some stories/opinions/ideas!
You can take the kind of electric kettle that has a wide lid, and make
Ramen, or "boil in bag" food, in it. That'll increase the S.E.X. fund.
OTOH, it's fun to sit and eat with new made friends, or RCTNers you meet
for the first time.
By the way, how do RCTNers identify themselves/each other at these things?
Ruthie in Colorado, planning for the future
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