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Rosemary Powell

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Jun 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/14/95
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Someone recently posted about changes in some of th DMC shades ( which are
identified by a dot by the number on the wrappers).

I have just found a list which identifies these:

Colours currently affected are:
317, 318,413, 414, 415, 762

Those that will be affected in the future are:
320, 503, 504, 758, 780-83, 791-94, 959, 977, 991, 3041, 3042, 3740, 3363,
3743, 3777, 3799, and 3807

The colour changes according to this information, are 'quite substantial' !
Oh dear. So if we know we need these colours in quantity, lets stock up
now??

Rosemary

(PS One for the FAQ Kathy??)

Kathleen M. Dyer

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Jun 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/14/95
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Rosemary Powell (r.i.p...@rl.ac.uk) wrote:
> Someone recently posted about changes in some of th DMC shades ( which are
> identified by a dot by the number on the wrappers).

> I have just found a list which identifies these:

<list omitted>

> (PS One for the FAQ Kathy??)

Sounds like it, to me. Just out of nosiness, where did you find the list?
If it's from some generally available publication, I'd like to get a
copy (or start a subscription, or whatever). It sounds like a good source
for late-breaking needlework news. If the info came from a friend, make
sure and talk to your friend often. :-)

Kathy
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Jennie Brock

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Jun 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/15/95
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In article <r.i.powell....@rl.ac.uk>, r.i.p...@rl.ac.uk (Rosemary Powell) writes:
|> Someone recently posted about changes in some of th DMC shades ( which are
|> identified by a dot by the number on the wrappers).
|>
|> I have just found a list which identifies these:
|>
|> Colours currently affected are:
|> 317, 318,413, 414, 415, 762
|>
|> Those that will be affected in the future are:
|> 320, 503, 504, 758, 780-83, 791-94, 959, 977, 991, 3041, 3042, 3740, 3363,
|> 3743, 3777, 3799, and 3807
|>
|> The colour changes according to this information, are 'quite substantial' !
|> Oh dear. So if we know we need these colours in quantity, lets stock up
|> now??
|>
|> Rosemary
|>
|> (PS One for the FAQ Kathy??)

Sincere thanks for this very important info, Rosemary. I will pass it along
to all my friends who aren't lucky enough to be on the net and in contact with
all you lovely people! I second the PS.

Jennie.
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Jodi L Wittlin

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Jun 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/15/95
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Jennie Brock (jen...@inthis.badgers.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: |>
: |> Colours currently affected are:

: |> 317, 318,413, 414, 415, 762
: |>
: |> Those that will be affected in the future are:
: |> 320, 503, 504, 758, 780-83, 791-94, 959, 977, 991, 3041, 3042, 3740, 3363,
: |> 3743, 3777, 3799, and 3807
: |>

i am very confused about this whole dotty dmc business. all of my dmc
skeins bought in the last 6 months, some of which are not on the above list,
have dots. they are square dots, slightly smaller than the numbers in the
upc, to the lower right of the number...like where a decimal point would go.
now, these are my first skeins of most of these colors, and i don't see any
difference between the few i have both dotty and un-dotty skeins. are dots
new or old colors? is there another dot somewhere that is different from
my dot?
jodi

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ble...@server0.cybernetics.net

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Jun 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/15/95
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Sure enough, I looked at my floss stores and three of the numbers
listed had both skeins with and without dots. My shopowner
was shocked that this had happened and the shops hadn't been
notified. Does anyone know why they are making these changes??

Keep on stitching,
Carol


ble...@server0.cybernetics.net

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Jun 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/15/95
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> is there another dot somewhere that is different from
>my dot?
>jodi
>
I agree. I have dots on more colors than the ones listed. I
do realize there have always been the little round dots on
color numbers like 666 to prevent confusion with 999. But
I have the square dots on a lot of my skeins.

Keep on stitching,
Carol


Rosemary Powell

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Jun 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/16/95
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In article <3rpivo$b...@news0.cybernetics.net> ble...@server0.cybernetics.net writes:
>From: ble...@server0.cybernetics.net
>Subject: Re: Changes in DMC floss colours
>Date: 15 Jun 1995 15:18:16 GMT


May I clarify what I know?
The original post claims the 'problem' colours are identified by dots, but
I have NO information regarding this.

What information I have got came from a local mail order cross stich supplier
in a recent newsletter/supplement to the catalogue.

She lists the colours I have quoted, and gives the reason for the changes as
being because these shades are being (or will be) dyed by more
environmentally friendly processes. I believe this is generally given as the
reason for changes in either colour or colourfastness! Probably the producers
are required by law to make these changes?

If we want to preserve our earth we must suffer any inconveniences incurred in
trying to make it a better place.

Rosemary

Jodi L Wittlin

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Jun 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/16/95
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error@hell wrote:
: Hi all.

: I went to a store here in town that carries all of the DMC thread to stock
: up on thread for 3 of my patterns and I was amazed at the number of the 52
: colors I bought that have this little dot.

: Here is a list of the colors I got that have THE DOT:

: white ecru

: 221 223 224 225 304 310 336 351 420 561 610
: 612 646 647 648 712 725 729 801 815 826 839
: 840 841 842 890 930 931 932 945 950 987 3078
: 3712 3773
i think i can add some dotty colors to this list: (not in numerical order)
919 800 920 3790 792 469 3781 793 3756
350 951 433 642 472 775 471 402 744 208
333 3325 435 3747 349 738 799 355 445 677
604 502 598 934 964 948 3348 989 3743 772
834 778 726 666 791 796 798 827 928 838
825 806

: The new colors really do look the same as the old.
i have a feeling the dots do not represent new colors...dmc changed the
style of its label for the numbering (looks like they are using a different
printing process for the numbers) and that the dot in actually part of the
end of the upc code. that is, if we are all talking about the same dot!
anyone else have any observations? (this is not meaning to insult anyone..,
but it seems like dmc has gotten a bit dotty...i mean, they can't be
changing what is at this point 1/3 of their line!...well, they could, but i
doubt they are that unresponsible towards their "loyal" customers, since we
will all go use something else if they really louse us up!)

Jennie Brock

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Jun 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/16/95
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In article <3rpc8r$a...@nic.umass.edu>, JO...@frost.oit.umass.edu (Jodi L Wittlin) writes:
|> Jennie Brock (jen...@inthis.badgers.demon.co.uk) wrote:
|> : |>
|> : |> Colours currently affected are:
|> : |> 317, 318,413, 414, 415, 762
|> : |>
|> : |> Those that will be affected in the future are:
|> : |> 320, 503, 504, 758, 780-83, 791-94, 959, 977, 991, 3041, 3042, 3740, 3363,
|> : |> 3743, 3777, 3799, and 3807
|> : |>
|>
|> i am very confused about this whole dotty dmc business. all of my dmc
|> skeins bought in the last 6 months, some of which are not on the above list,
|> have dots. they are square dots, slightly smaller than the numbers in the
|> upc, to the lower right of the number...like where a decimal point would go.
|> now, these are my first skeins of most of these colors, and i don't see any
|> difference between the few i have both dotty and un-dotty skeins. are dots
|> new or old colors? is there another dot somewhere that is different from
|> my dot?
|> jodi
|>
|> --
|> *****************************************************************************
|> Jodi L. Wittlin
|> email: jwit...@phast.umass.edu
|> home page: http://www-vms.oit.umass.edu/~jodiw/home.html
|> Dept. of Physics and Astronomy UMass, Amherst
|> The opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of UMass or
|> the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
|> *****************************************************************************

I didn't write the above article, only thanked the person that did, but I
think I'll go away and rin up DMC - they only live 20 miles away.
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Jodi L Wittlin

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Jun 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/16/95
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Rosemary Powell (r.i.p...@rl.ac.uk) wrote:
: >Sure enough, I looked at my floss stores and three of the numbers

: >listed had both skeins with and without dots. My shopowner
: >was shocked that this had happened and the shops hadn't been
: >notified. Does anyone know why they are making these changes??

but were the colors obviously different? dmc has recently changed their
labels, so you could just have two different labels, but all the colors
still the same.


: She lists the colours I have quoted, and gives the reason for the changes as

: being because these shades are being (or will be) dyed by more
: environmentally friendly processes. I believe this is generally given as the
: reason for changes in either colour or colourfastness! Probably the producers
: are required by law to make these changes?

: If we want to preserve our earth we must suffer any inconveniences incurred in
: trying to make it a better place.

i agree absolutely. but i am still confused about what these dots look like
(has anyone seen a dotted label where it is a significantly different color
from the old one?), and why all of my skeins are dotty (maybe they are starting
to match my mind.)
does dmc have an 800 number? we could call and get some info once and fora
all on what sort of dots we should be looking for.

Jennie Brock

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Jun 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/17/95
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Ihave managed to speak to DMC Creative World and told them of our discussion
on the NG. I was informed that they have a letter printed, explaining all
about the colour changes(?) and have put it in the post to me with permission
to post it to the news group.

As soon as I receive it, therefore, you will all be able to read it and
perhaps Kathy would like to add it to the next FAQ.

Back soon with the letter, Jennie.

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Jodi L Wittlin

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Jun 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/17/95
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Jennie Brock (jen...@inthis.badgers.demon.co.uk) wrote:

: Ihave managed to speak to DMC Creative World and told them of our discussion


: on the NG. I was informed that they have a letter printed, explaining all
: about the colour changes(?) and have put it in the post to me with permission
: to post it to the news group.

it is very rare that i would spend band width in this manner, but...
WAY TO GO JENNIE!!!!!!!1. i thank you for making the effort for calling dmc,
i thank you for having the letter sent and being willing to post it here,
AND i thank you in advance for saving my from going nuts in my dottiness!
jodi
ps--and i put this in the ng, not in private, because ithink she should be
thanked in public!

beem...@gmail.com

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Sep 8, 2016, 7:54:01 PM9/8/16
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Anyone know the outcome..Just curious..I find it hard with the unavailability of the old colors and not knowing the exact color..sure I can attempt to match the color card..but if you are off..hmm...it would be nice if there was an official chart with substitute DMC colors now and what phased out to make life easier instead of scrambling..I have older kits..so I am in the old DMC zone..so it makes life a little hairy...

Joan Erickson

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Sep 15, 2016, 6:45:12 PM9/15/16
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On 9/8/2016 6:53 PM, beem...@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone know the outcome..Just curious..I find it hard with the
> unavailabilityof the old colors and not knowing the exact color
> ..sure I can attempt to match the color card..but if you are off
> ..hmm...it would be nice if there was an official chart with
> substitute DMC colors now and what phased out to make life easier
> instead of scrambling..I have older kits..so I am in the old DMC
> zone..so it makes life a little hairy...

I searched the Google posts and at least found the list of flosses that
have been changed:
>Some DMC colors changed in late 1994 because of environmental
>regulations that impacted the dye process. The main change is one
>gray family: 3799, 413, 317, 414, 318, 415, 762. It is a bluer gray
>now than it had been. Also two colors from a blue-green family have
>been changed: 503 and 504; other members of that family are >unchanged.

I still have some of the old skeins, so if you're in need of something,
maybe I can help.

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