cross stiching made easy my secret
Frequencies Galore
Fred Kuhn
I'm not trying to steal your thunder and it looks like I might be quilty of
burying neat info that others of the group could make use of. Then again I
can not explain where part of an earlier post of mine went so I will post it
here again. Maybe some it will be of help to you also. I have been griding
for over six years for the following reasons; - here is a copy of some of
that wayward post:
Hi again Jim,
Thought I would throw in a few stitches that I find helps me.
I use a fine, bright cotton thread that is color fast and will not leave a
residue when it is taken out and grid my fabric into tenths, up and down,
left and right across the center. Then I grid the whole outside border into
tenths. I also find it helpful when doing needlepoint, to outline the main
part of the design and/or critical parts with a fine thread. This all takes
about an hour or two but I find it well worth it because it sets the center
point and proves to me that I will have enough fabric all around the edge
for proper framing. I will study the design and might put in a few temporary
stitches at critical points for reference points. Then I let it sit for at
least three days without threading a needle. During those three days I will
recheck my grid a number of times, just in case I've done a "niner". Then I
am ready to start stitching in earnest.
I have two other sinister motives for doing this. It doesn't matter whether
I'm doing a cross stitch or needlepoint, I prefer my finished stitches to be
laying /// (versus \\\) and if possible I like to come up clean and go down
dirty with the stitches.
Secondly I START nearly all my projects in the TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER and
work the design from top to bottom. I find that the stitched part stays
crisp and clean. I never use masking tape to protect the edges as some
framers have a hidden charge of about forty bucks to get the masking tape
glue off. In fact I do not do anything to protect the edges at all. I find
no need to, even on projects that have been on the go for over a year. When
I am done I will pick out a few malamute hairs and do a light vacuum with a
little red devil to get rid of any fuzzies. There is no need to launder the
piece and I seldom have to block before framing.
However having said that, I still end up frogging about 150 stitches a
project. One third because I do not like the way the stitches lay, and one
third because I decide that in my opinion there should be a color change and
one third as a result of an error in judgement.
I find backgrounds do tend to be a tad boring and for some reason I find
myself counting stitches as I do them, especially just after I have started
a new thread.
Happy stitching, 9,233 - 9,234, - 9,235 - geesh, there I go again.
Don't backstitch to e-mail just stitchit.
Fred
Et in Arcadia Ego.
www.stitchaway.com
"F.James Cripwell" <bf...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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> Some weeks ago there was a thread on "Why am I counting?", and at
> that time my answer was "redundancy" which helps to find errors before
> they involve too much work.
"Frequencies Galore " <robert.s...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Frequencies Galore
Fred i was accually refaring to the person ho places needle evry tenth
stich, however since then I have found out that the technique is already in
use.sorry for tring to claim it as my own but even so as there are new
persons to the grouop they might as I did not have read the origanal post,
so on that point it's valid,
it seem however that my secret was not that bi a secret
well such is life
bye for now
margret (Teta)
Fred Kuhn <bksti...@icenter.net> wrote in message
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Richard
<robert.s...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>Hy any one who has made to many mistakes to count
>here it is
>so I got some sewing cotton of a contrasting colour and worked as shown on the chart from the centre every 10th row vertical and evry 10th row vertical making a grid, ...........
>There's a way round evry problem I just found one,
>
>let me know what you think about this idea
>
>bye for now
>
>Margret (Teta)
I think it is a great idea, one which is usefull on very large or
complicated charts.
Rg
Marilyn Leavitt Imblum
get them to weave in an easily removable 10th row thread? What do you
think? Let me know!
Marilyn
> Hy any one who has made to many mistakes to count
>
> No more mistakes almost garuntted it's so easy it's icreadable and simple,I
> think I'll sell the patent, only kidding.
>
> here it is
> I took a page out of the lady who places neddles every tenth stich but
> desided pins and needles where a little dangerous with the dogs,
>
> so I got some sewing cotton of a contrasting colour and worked as shown on
> the chart from the centre every 10th row vertical and evry 10th row vertical
> making a grid, I tryed croos stiching with the system before and wow what a
> diffrence just try it, I thought it would not make that much diffrence but
> it does, double vision oer no double vision it been a boon,
>
> the only thing is work the cross stich next to the colourd thread not
> through it if you can remember that way there should be no problems removing
> the thread, I'll let you know about that when I cross the bridge however,
> but for now enjoying myself, if only my web page was this easy,
>
> oh by the way it speeds thing up as well as you can use the grid as a
> refrence once you have found where you are, just look for patterns in and
> across the grid.
>
Ruth Carlos
Who keeps the topic calender these days. Is May still.....Does floss have a
right and a wrong end?
Kim Brown would know, or Roger and his Polar Bear?
Cheers,
Ruth Carlos
Hornsby, NSWnews:eFwQ4.3459$tQ3.3...@news3.cableinet.net...
Kathy Gursky
>
> I'm going to talk to the manufacturers of the fabric....maybe we could
> get them to weave in an easily removable 10th row thread? What do you
> think? Let me know!
> Marilyn
>
My DH started doing cross-stitch several months ago,
and immediately thought this would be a good idea.
As someone with several patents, he decided to do a
patent search and found that someone patented the
idea of fabric with the gridding thread already
woven in back in 1982 (see patent # 4,465,007 if
you're interested; I saved his email about it).
So now we just have to talk some fabric company into
licensing the patent and manufacturing the fabric
that way. I wonder if the patent owner tried to
do that and couldn't drum up enough interest? Time
for an RCTN crusade?
--
Kathy G. in New Mexico
CyberCat
UFO on it (Mary Engelbreit piece that I keep forgetting about). It's very
helpful, but they only did aida, so far as I know.
Kali
Going back to find that piece.
"Kathy Gursky" <ca...@rt66.comtakeout> wrote in message
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CyberCat
Ann W.
<mar...@tiag.com> wrote:
>I'm going to talk to the manufacturers of the fabric....maybe we could
>get them to weave in an easily removable 10th row thread? What do you
>think? Let me know!
>Marilyn
>
I think that would be great! I'd much rather spend my time stitching
than gridding!
Ann W.
e-mail to ann.wi...@takeitout.altavista.com
take it out and change com to net
Jenn Ridley
>Marilyn Leavitt Imblum wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to talk to the manufacturers of the fabric....maybe we could
>> get them to weave in an easily removable 10th row thread? What do you
>> think? Let me know!
>> Marilyn
>>
>
>My DH started doing cross-stitch several months ago,
>and immediately thought this would be a good idea.
>As someone with several patents, he decided to do a
>patent search and found that someone patented the
>idea of fabric with the gridding thread already
>woven in back in 1982 (see patent # 4,465,007 if
>you're interested; I saved his email about it).
>
>So now we just have to talk some fabric company into
>licensing the patent and manufacturing the fabric
>that way. I wonder if the patent owner tried to
>do that and couldn't drum up enough interest? Time
>for an RCTN crusade?
It was produced for a while. I only ever saw it in white. The last
time I saw any of it, it was in the bargain bin at my (not so) LNS. I
think it was from zweigart, and it just didn't sell....
jenn
Jenn Ridley
jenn....@gt.org
WIP: Regatta, Noah's Journey, Scary Scraps, garb for a SCA wedding
Most recently Finished: Snowman Ornaments, Pansy plant pokes
jke
would certainly pay more for it that a fabric without it, if it were a
fabric other than Aida, like linen maybe. I don't grid my own because I
figure by the time I'm finished gridding I wouldn't want to stitch!
Count me in on the crusade!
Julie
Jenn Ridley <jri...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Angela of Kentucky
Angela
"Marilyn Leavitt Imblum" <mar...@tiag.com> wrote in message
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> I'm going to talk to the manufacturers of the fabric....maybe we could
> get them to weave in an easily removable 10th row thread? What do you
> think? Let me know!
> Marilyn
>
>
John & Liz Hampton
>>> I'm going to talk to the manufacturers of the fabric....maybe we could
>>> get them to weave in an easily removable 10th row thread? What do you
>>> think? Let me know!
>>> Marilyn
>>>
snip
> It was produced for a while. I only ever saw it in white. The last
> time I saw any of it, it was in the bargain bin at my (not so) LNS. I
> think it was from zweigart, and it just didn't sell....
> jenn
> Jenn Ridley
It sounds like they didn't market it very well. :-)) If someone had
mentioned it here (after seeing it in a magazine or something) it would have
sold like chocolate!!! (I would have said "hot cakes", but I like chocolate
better) :-))
Liz from Humbug
Remove knots to reply.
Kim Brown
>
> You think maybe it didn't sell because people didn't know what it was? I
> would certainly pay more for it that a fabric without it, if it were a
> fabric other than Aida, like linen maybe. I don't grid my own because I
> figure by the time I'm finished gridding I wouldn't want to stitch!
> Count me in on the crusade!
> Julie
I dunno... I have a UFO on the old Zweigart gridded aida. It's white and
the gridding thread is grey. When you pull out the gridding thread, you
get left with a 'furrow in the cloth which doesn't wash out. I think
this is because the thread is woven into the cloth and is an integral
part of the fabric - you're actually removing a piece of fabric when you
pull it out, hence the obvious 'gap' after you do. I think a set-up
where the gridding thread was tacked lightly on top of the fabric would
work better, but somehow I think that'd be pretty costly.
--
Trish {|:OI}
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Frequencies Galore
How many stares are ther in the sky. does the universe go on and on,
wj=ill i ever finish the current project to m]name a few more and the
inevtable how long should my floss be and how long should I leave the tail
of the floss and most important to me will I ever get muy web page up and
running properly,
just a bit of fun for ya all.
nbye for now
Margret (Teta)
Ruth Carlos <reca...@primus.com.au> wrote in message
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Frequencies Galore
quite long, i'm getting along with the cross stich project a lot better
since I started griding, it's been a boon to me, also you can grid the adia
or fabric when it's to dark to sttich, a couiple more tips is when you start
with a frst 2 stranbd floss instead of using 2 stands them use one double
the length, fold in 2 and tread the 2 ends trough the needle as usuall, note
there is now a loop at the other end, now pay attention the loop is very
important, so leave to looped end the longer of the two, start the cross
stich as usuall but instead of leaving a tail or knotting it take the neddle
through the loop it knots itself, and is a lot neater, i do know that this
has been published at the same site as the gridding one,
the last tip for cross stich is to bachstich a hem round the edge for a few
reasons, it strigtens any edges that are not cut stright. help you find the
center,
stops the fabric fraying looks naeter then masking tape
and stregthens the edge of the fabric now what more could you ask for . I
have some pretty god ideas on the embroidery side but they take some
explaining, the effect is good though in the end,
as you have probably realised I only work large projects, well I have some
small ones as well.
Bye for now
Margret (Teta)
Richard <jox...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 04 May 2000 19:45:42 GMT, "Frequencies Galore "
> <robert.s...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Hy any one who has made to many mistakes to count
> >here it is
> >so I got some sewing cotton of a contrasting colour and worked as shown
on the chart from the centre every 10th row vertical and evry 10th row
vertical making a grid, ...........
> >There's a way round evry problem I just found one,
> >
> >let me know what you think about this idea
> >
> >bye for now
> >
> >Margret (Teta)
>
Kristin
available in 14 ct. Aida, ecru and white, in 16-inch square cuts. I thought
it was a really good idea - the basic assumption being that if charts are
marked with dark lines at every tenth line it would make it easier to count.
*However,* charts have dark lines built into the grid - on the grid lines,
wheras the fabric had the basting thread on the solid fabric - between the
grid lines. I had a hard time remembering whether I had decided that the row
with the dark thread was above or below, or to the left or right of the grid
lines on the chart. It involved the same type of mental gymnastics as
switching back and forth between over-two cross stitch charts and over-one
needlepoint charts.
I think for the "10th" thread to be helpful, it has to be where one would
baste in the first place - where the grid lines go. You would have to run it
along the holes in Aida, or paired with a regular thread in linen. To be
easily removable, it would have to be slub-free, not linen. And it would
have to be slick enough not to get pierced by the needle. Now you have the
problem of the different tension, thickness, and strength of the thread in
the manufacturing process. It sounds like a very tricky problem to me.
Kristin
Denver, CO
"John & Liz Hampton" <knot...@echoweb.net> wrote in message
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Ruth409028
>inevitable how long should my floss be and how long should I leave the tail
>of the floss and most important to me will I ever get my web page up and
>running properly,
>
Yes.
No longer than 18 inches to keep down tangles.
At least an inch hidden under the threads, unless it is blending filement, then
2 or 3 inches.
Yes if you keep working at it. Frances
Take Jacques out before replying.
Fred Kuhn
griding.
BEEN THERE DONE THAT, but if you insist I will gladly welcome the company.
Every one responding to this news group will then look as beautifully "BALD"
and debonair as I do, from pulling their hair out.
Pull number 10 and.....
number 11 becomes number 10
number 12 becomes number 11
number 13 becomes number 12
number 14 becomes number 13
number 15 becomes number 14
number 16 becomes number 15
number 17 becomes number 16
number 18 becomes number 17
number 19 becomes number 18
number 20 becomes number 19
number 21 becomes number 20
number 22 becomes number 21
horizontal and vertical - adnauseam,
Take a piece of graph paper, go to the top left hand corner, count ten lines
down, now count ten lines to the right, put a drop of whiteout where the two
lines cross. Goodbye stitch support. Count holes instead of lines, same
result.
Let's see now, a 280 x 280 design, on a ten mesh canvas which gave me a 28"
x 28" design, now becomes 270 x 270 or was that 269 x 269 and 27" x 27".
Can't remember if thread number (1) was pulled or not. Piece of cake, all I
have to do is ask my LNS for a different mesh canvas and put up with the
slightly different finished size, assuming I calculate the border correctly.
Betting the response will be," Do you want a yard of material or a meter"?
Let's go all the way gang - I want a design with Roman numerals printed on
it. Would just love to try and keep XLVII separate from XLVIII, now was that
DMC 47 or DMC 48? Nope, those were the color symbols, but where are the DMC
numbers. Ahh heck, thread the needle and let's go I, II, III, IV, V, VI,
VII, VII, VIII, IX, X, whoops, was that a half cross back there followed by
a full cross? Ahh, finally getting the back to look like the front.
Just Humble Fred looking for company,
Don't backstitch to e-mail just stitchit
Et in Arcadia Ego
www.stitchaway.com
Frequencies Galore
witrh the majority of them bar the web page being a asolute pain in the
$&%****
I have finishe site one 12 pages in all deals with radio and scanner
frequencies hence the mail message Frequencies Galore.
the problem is the upload it the web wizard tells me iy has gone succesful
look at the site no change or at the moment sometimes not sometin=mes it
works tryed updating again yesterday uploaded all the pages some went up
others did not even though they where sent in the same batch, the cross
stich hhas gotten easirer dince I started graphing by the way,
and web site 2 will be going up in the next few days I will let everyone
know when theirs 6 free charts on it this month i.m not happy with one I
have to offer 6
their a long hiared dashund, red Hydrangeas, patuinas, staffordshire bulldog
pup, a lilac flower, and a a siamese cat, this month, most are large
projects the largest being 45.4 x 45.4 cm and all are good and top quality.
I do have better then these but I'm afraid I can't offer them for free and
at the moment I am also trying to get someone to take me seriously as a
designer, if anyone would like to see the top quality reps e-mail me at the
th...@freeuk.com address, you may jus like waht I am doing, in particlar I
have 2 unicorns, and a few loins on file, as well as a few others.
the best ones that are going on the site are the red hydrangea, patunias,
stafordshire bull dog pup, lilac flower and siames cat in that order, the
unicorns are better then the ones going to the sirte nad the ones on the
site are good, but you don't have to take my word for it. have a look just
e-mail me.
bye for now
margret (Teta)
Ruth409028 <ruth4...@aol.comJacques> wrote in message
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> >will i ever finish the current project to name a few more and the
> >inevitable how long should my floss be and how long should I leave the
tail
> >of the floss and most important to me will I ever get my web page up and
> >running properly,
> >
Nan Scott
like the squares in Anne cloth only less obvious, if that makes sense. That
way there would be no need to pull and no "channel."
Nan Scott
Kim Willhoite
Kim in SW Fl
Fred Kuhn
I am very fortunate and very seldom have to resort to pain medications. The
medication for my THREAD and LEG pulling syndrome might need looking into
though. Thanks for the hint.
Having said that, I do not think anyone ever made money making fabric with a
tenth thread identifier, but I could be wrong. It sounded good but it just
didn't work.
Back to serious stitching,
Don't backstitch to e-mail just stitchit
Fred
Et in Arcadia Ego
www.stitchaway.com
One doesn't have to get spaced out to have a bit of fun pulling a leg or a
piece of thread.
"Kim Willhoite" <kimb...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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G. Romilly Goodfellow
<nansche...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>An even weave with a subtle variation in the weave would be nice- sort of
>like the squares in Anne cloth only less obvious, if that makes sense. That
>way there would be no need to pull and no "channel."
The slight bit of extra texture could be lovely, too, if done
properly. OK, I know, everyone has a different concept of "properly."
~ G. Romilly Goodfellow
Cat hair? What cat hair? That's creative use of specialty fibers...
Joan Erickson
: I'm going to talk to the manufacturers of the fabric....maybe we could
: get them to weave in an easily removable 10th row thread? What do you
: think? Let me know!
: Marilyn
This would definitely be useful on linen or evenweaves and they
could figure out the problems other people have already mentioned. Would
it be possible to just color every tenth thread with a dye that would wash
out? 'Course then people who use fibers that don't wash well might have a
problem .... hmmm. A colored nylon (like fishing line) thread?
Joan (just my 1-cent thoughts!)
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Dawne Peterson
>Ruth Carlos wrote Is May still.....Does floss have a right and a wrong
>end? Kim Brown would know, or Roger and his Polar Bear?
Dawne
Marilyn Leavitt Imblum
>
> I'm going to talk to the manufacturers of the fabric....maybe we could
> get them to weave in an easily removable 10th row thread? What do you
> think? Let me know!
> Marilyn
After speaking to Zweigart I was told they had produced this idea before
on white aida. They said they could do it on 32 count natural linen(my
alternative choice for all of my designs) and that they would mark every
20th row. I've been told that after removing the marking thread you will
not be able to notice where it had been!
I'm thrilled and will get back to you when we know more information,
Marilyn
snj
>Marilyn Leavitt Imblum wrote:
>After speaking to Zweigart I was told they had produced this idea before
>on white aida. They said they could do it on 32 count natural linen(my
>alternative choice for all of my designs) and that they would mark every
>20th row. I've been told that after removing the marking thread you will
>not be able to notice where it had been!
This was easy count aida - 18, 14, 11 ct. It came in white and cream.
It was shown in the previous book and had a pale grey line for the
count.
I don't know if they make this type any more, but it would be great to
produce on an even weave.
(Maybe they'll call it "Marilyn".) ;)
Jane
Kim Willhoite
<bksti...@icenter.net> wrote:
>Hi Kim;
>
>I am very fortunate and very seldom have to resort to pain medications. The
>medication for my THREAD and LEG pulling syndrome might need looking into
>though. Thanks for the hint.
>
>Fred
>Et in Arcadia Ego
>www.stitchaway.com
>
>
>One doesn't have to get spaced out to have a bit of fun pulling a leg or a
>piece of thread.
Wow Fred, I was trying to think up a really good pun but I have brain
lock right now. It's amazing that you aren't on pain medication after
what you went through. It's much better to be pulling a leg than
breaking one.
Kim in SW Fl
Lois
HI,
Well, having just started doing band samplers, I was quite disgusted with
myself with I learned (from who else - RCTN) to run a basting line down
each side. Such a simple hint that would have made my first sampler so much
easier. Sure wish they (kit makers ) added that little hint to their kits.
I have a birth sampler that has been a UFO for ....... years because I
couldn't get the count correct - Well that baby is up and gone - gave him
something else - and I have a new great neice/nephew coming in November.
Now that I have learned all the tricks - I think I'll give it another shot
and see if I can finish before he/she is in college.
Thanks.
Lois