Abstract patterns available?
RICHARDSON GD - SCHOOL OF ACCOUNTANCY
I like the pictorial and sampler patterns, but I also like things such
as fractals etc and was wondering if there was anything like that in
the world of cross-stitch patterns.
Thanks
Toby
Jennifer Hutchison
: I was wondering if anyone know of any (or a series) of abstract patterns.
: I like the pictorial and sampler patterns, but I also like things such
: as fractals etc and was wondering if there was anything like that in
: the world of cross-stitch patterns.
How about those 3D images? Any reason why that wouldn't work in xstitch?
Jenny.
Nikole Senecal
>I was wondering if anyone know of any (or a series) of abstract patterns.
In the back of _Cross-stitch Sampler_ they sometimes advertise stained glass designs by (why do I always forget the important information) an architect. Dead now, did stuff in LA in the 20s? 30s? Three names. Anyway they are very abstract and Frank Lloyd Wright! Had to get that out while it was still in my head. You people must think I am the ditziest PhD student around. Very abstract and *neat*. I don't have the magazine with me, but email me if you are interested.
Nikki
Karen Gorman
I love FLW (and Art Deco)! I wouldn't say his designs are really abstract,
though-- at least not in the sense of fractal abstract. Wright tended toward
highly stylized floral images, esp. in stained glass. Very geometric, but
usually w/a floral/nature theme. I stitched the "Stars, Stripes, and Balloons"
kit (that may not have been the actual name, but it's the theme). Primary
colors with black backstitch and felt pieces for the 'balloons'.
I'd be very interested in hearing more about these designs- who owns the
rights to them, how can I get them, are they available at your basic craft/
needlework store, etc.?
-karen
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Tom Granvold was kind enough to email me with names of books which had
fractals in them.
FRACTAL NATURE OF GEOMETRY (Mandelbrot)
SCIENCE OF FRACTALIMAGES (ed. Peitgen & Saupe)
ALGORITHMIC BEAUTY OF PLANTS (Prusinkiewica & Lindemayer)
BEAUTY OF FRACTALS (Peitgen & Richter)
Also he directed me to books by Martin Gardner (no titles specified).
third, he said there were freeware programs that create patterns such as
these; said to look for those which create the Mandelbrot Set and Julia
Set images.
Ihope this will help you. His email:
Martha Beth
Mark Terrano
: I love FLW (and Art Deco)! I wouldn't say his designs are really abstract,
: though-- at least not in the sense of fractal abstract. Wright tended toward
: highly stylized floral images, esp. in stained glass. Very geometric, but
: usually w/a floral/nature theme. I stitched the "Stars, Stripes, and Balloons"
: kit (that may not have been the actual name, but it's the theme). Primary
: colors with black backstitch and felt pieces for the 'balloons'.
: I'd be very interested in hearing more about these designs- who owns the
: rights to them, how can I get them, are they available at your basic craft/
: needlework store, etc.?
This past May I was in Chicago and they have a Frank Lloyd Wright Museum
there with many xstitch pattern of his stained glass and other designs.
Few had flowers in them. They were mainly abstract. A call to directory
assitance in Chicago will get you their phone number. The museum is in
the Oak Park area of Chicago close by many of his homes/houses he designed.
Your servant,
Kelly Kaye Terrano
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Nikole Senecal
>Karen Gorman (gor...@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu) wrote:
>: I love FLW (and Art Deco)! I wouldn't say his designs are really abstract,
>: though-- at least not in the sense of fractal abstract. Wright tended toward
>: highly stylized floral images, esp. in stained glass. Very geometric, but
>: usually w/a floral/nature theme. <snip>
>there with many xstitch pattern of his stained glass and other designs.
>Few had flowers in them. They were mainly abstract. <snip>
The ones I saw had no flowers either; they had a lot of comlumns sort of with some circles. I went to the old _Cross Stitch Sampler_ mags and, I hope I haven't let everyone down, but I only have two and the ad's not there. Someone must have the info -- it would be in the cross-stitch cameos section. (See what I do is after I get a huge pile of magazines, I go through them looking for the projects I would *ever* want to do, then I separate them from the magazine and put them in binders. And throw the rest away. I'm sure I've horrified some of you, with this admission!)
*BUT* What I did find was an ad for mens sana *very* abstract, in the fractals sense. Info below:
mens sana
PO Box 530
Naperville, IL 60566-0530
(708) 778-8384
Nikki
faeriedustbunnies
Ack nooooo...please dont anyone design and market anything like that
because...*gulp*.....I CAN'T MAGIC EYE!!! :(
Hey...maybe all those people who claim to see stuff in those speckled
pictures are all FAKING! Come on now, 'fess up...There really WAS nothing
on the back of the TV Guide a few weeks ago, WAS there? :)
--Carla
Who is paranoid about those 3-D image thingies
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> Jennifer Hutchison (jhut...@vagus.vth.colostate.edu) wrote:
> : How about those 3D images? Any reason why that wouldn't work in xstitch?
> : Jenny.
> Ack nooooo...please dont anyone design and market anything like that
> because...*gulp*.....I CAN'T MAGIC EYE!!! :(
> Hey...maybe all those people who claim to see stuff in those speckled
> pictures are all FAKING! Come on now, 'fess up...There really WAS nothing
> on the back of the TV Guide a few weeks ago, WAS there? :)
> --Carla
> Who is paranoid about those 3-D image thingies
Carla, you are not alone! I can't see them, either. And I've heard all
the tips that start with "Just focus your eyes down there, and then..."
Kathy
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faeriedustbunnies <cha...@netcom.com> wrote:
>Jennifer Hutchison (jhut...@vagus.vth.colostate.edu) wrote:
>
>: How about those 3D images? Any reason why that wouldn't work in xstitch?
>: Jenny.
>
>Ack nooooo...please dont anyone design and market anything like that
>because...*gulp*.....I CAN'T MAGIC EYE!!! :(
>Hey...maybe all those people who claim to see stuff in those speckled
>pictures are all FAKING! Come on now, 'fess up...There really WAS nothing
>on the back of the TV Guide a few weeks ago, WAS there? :)
>
>--Carla
>Who is paranoid about those 3-D image thingies
Carla, do not fear. You are not alone. I too cannot Magic Eye. All
I succeed in doing while staring hard at those pictures is give myself
a headache and blur my vision for a while. ARGH!!!
My husband, on the other hand, can see it. Or so he says. I too feel
that everyone is "faking" it!
Heaven help me if anyone ever markets Magic Eye cross-stitch patterns,
because he (hubby) will probably beg me to do one for him!!!
Oh...on the back of the TV Guide a few weeks ago (according to hubby) was
the new UPN symbol with the letters raised.
Hmph.
Marcia
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the one who thinks that I'm faking it! :-)
I do think that a cross-stitch version would be a lot of really fiddly
color-changing detail for a not very impressive result. The 3D images
aren't really subtle or detailed. I'd hate to put that much work in and
get something I didn't really like...
-- Emily
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In article <chaliceD...@netcom.com>, cha...@netcom.com (faeriedustbunnies) writes:
|>Jennifer Hutchison (jhut...@vagus.vth.colostate.edu) wrote:
|>: RICHARDSON GD - SCHOOL OF ACCOUNTANCY (gric...@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
|>: How about those 3D images? Any reason why that wouldn't work in xstitch?
|>: Jenny.
|>
|>Ack nooooo...please dont anyone design and market anything like that
|>because...*gulp*.....I CAN'T MAGIC EYE!!! :(
|>Hey...maybe all those people who claim to see stuff in those speckled
|>pictures are all FAKING! Come on now, 'fess up...There really WAS nothing
|>on the back of the TV Guide a few weeks ago, WAS there? :)
|>
|>--Carla
|>Who is paranoid about those 3-D image thingies
Now THAT would be COOL!!! My husband has a whole calender of those things
and yes, I can see the 3-D picture behind the scenes (you have to let your
eyes kind of relax and cross somewhat and you'll eventually get it) but have
NO idea how you would chart something like that in xstitch. I'd go nuts
stitching it anyway, but they're fun to look at!
\Caroline B.
Tom Granvold
> : How about those 3D images? Any reason why that wouldn't work in xstitch?
> : Jenny.
Well, I've seen one of these done with just printed characters. This
was printed on a computer but could also have been typed on a typewriter.
It worked, but was not the most interesting of images. Therefore IMHO I
say that it can be done with xstich, but I don't have the faintest idea
of how.
Does anyone know how to construct these 3d images? If it is easy
enough to do maybe we can create a pattern.
Enjoy,
Tom Granvold <thomas....@eng.sun.com>
Susan Profit
>faeriedustbunnies (cha...@netcom.com) wrote:
>> Ack nooooo...please dont anyone design and market anything like that
>> because...*gulp*.....I CAN'T MAGIC EYE!!! :(
>> Hey...maybe all those people who claim to see stuff in those speckled
>> pictures are all FAKING! Come on now, 'fess up...There really WAS nothing
>> on the back of the TV Guide a few weeks ago, WAS there? :)
>> --Carla
>
>the tips that start with "Just focus your eyes down there, and then..."
>Kathy
Just a note:
My husband adores those. I can't see them. :( When I was in the
opthamologist's office, he had his book with him to read while he waited
for me.
As we walked out of the exam room, the MD looked at the book, looked back
at me, and said "with your type of astygmatism, you will never be able to
see those." Then he turned and walked back into the exam room.
I had already decided that my inability to see them probably had to do
with something organic and had long ago given up trying, but it was nice to
have it confirmed. :)
@}->- ;) Tinne Laughter Heals :D -<-{@
Susan Profit
RICHARDSON GD - SCHOOL OF ACCOUNTANCY <gric...@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>I like the pictorial and sampler patterns, but I also like things such
>as fractals etc and was wondering if there was anything like that in
>the world of cross-stitch patterns.
>Thanks
>Toby
For Fractals, I have a program called Fractint that saves patterns to GIF.
With Graphics WorkShop, I have actually played around with translating
one of the three dimensional planets into PCX (after reducing the colors
to 64) from 256), then importing it into my Cross Stitch Pro, where I
printed out a pattern.
I don't know of any way of drafting a fractal pattern, and then printing
it out as a cross stitch pattern all in the same program though.
If you'd like an address for Graphics WorkShop, Fractint or the Cross
Stitch Pro, please let me know.
Esther Heller
(I've seen the printouts in both b&w and color). Could you then blow
up the pixels until they are big enough to see and chart them? I live in
the Unix universe so I'm not sure of the programs...
Esther Heller e...@raster.kodak.com Of course my opinions are my own!
Interested in: Statistics, software QA, sewing, organic gardening, Hardanger,
knitting, thread crochet, classical music, scratch cooking, woodworking...
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Clara N. Fitzgerald
There are a couple of ways to do 3d (not counting the glasses) using
ASCII characters. The equivalent to the mall posters uses random
characters arranged to show height if viewed correctly; obviously the
granularity is larger than the posters (about 6 levels is the limit).
The last image in this message actually uses the letters, but the height
effect is the same. I don't have a random one offhand...
Another way is to 'draw' a picture using characters, and repeat
different lines at different distances. The rest are this style.
A group called rec.arts.ascii carries both varieties (and lots of other
stuff). The FAQ (included a description of the physics, and a small C
program to create images) (and other stuff) can be found at various of
the following:
From: bo...@wwa.com (Bob Allison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii,alt.ascii-art,alt.binaries.pictures.ascii,alt.ascii-art.animation,alt.fan.scarecrow,comp.infosystems.www.users,comp.infosystems.www.misc
Here are some pointers to ASCII art resources:
ASCII ART WWW: http://gagme.wwa.com/~boba/scarecrow.html
ASCII ART GOPHER: gopher.wwa.com (select item 3)
ASCII ART FTP: ftp.wwa.com/pub/Scarecrow
ASCII ART FAQ: http://gagme.wwa.com/~boba/faq.html
FINGER ASCII ART FAQ: asci...@wwa.com
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>From: gric...@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (RICHARDSON GD - SCHOOL OF ACCOUNTANCY)
>Subject: Abstract patterns available?
>Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 16:02:43 GMT
>Thanks
>Toby
Maybe you should (if you have access) look for things like astronomical
"images" on the internet. Our Laboratory has fantastic computer enhanced
images of such things as Halleys Comet ( all in loveley colours); these are
printed and framed and displayed around the corridors etc, and I have often
thought (if I were into abstract) that they would make beautiful and unusual
cross stitch or needlepoint designs. And I agree about fractals!
There are conversion programs available that will transtate gif, pcx images
into cross stitch charts. - Oh ...but I wonder about copyright??
Rosemary
mi...@cyberspace.com
> Ack nooooo...please dont anyone design and market anything like that
> because...*gulp*.....I CAN'T MAGIC EYE!!! :(
> Hey...maybe all those people who claim to see stuff in those speckled
> pictures are all FAKING! Come on now, 'fess up...There really WAS nothing
> on the back of the TV Guide a few weeks ago, WAS there? :)
The only time I was able to Magic Eye was at the Mall where they had the
images framed under glass. They said to stare at your reflection and it worked.
Otherwise I haven't been able to make them work. Don't worry, though, you're
not missing much - it was a disappointment for me. The 3D images you see are
fairly simple shapes.
curtis brothers
> Ack nooooo...please dont anyone design and market anything like that
> because...*gulp*.....I CAN'T MAGIC EYE!!! :(
>
> Who is paranoid about those 3-D image thingies
>
things and I can't see 'em either.
Pat Brothers
NYC The paranoia capitol of the world
Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
faeriedustbunnies
: >
: > Ack nooooo...please dont anyone design and market anything like that
Well that explains it...I live in Queens! :)
--Carla
Tania D.O.
"magic eye" type when she focused -> NOT on the surface (plane) of the
paper, but rather _behind_ (beyond) the plane of the printed paper.
THAT's what people mean when they tell you to "just stare" or
"relax and unfocus - stare THRU it". I'd even say: pretend you have x-ray
vision and are actually focusing on the person that's as far away behind the
paper print as you are in front of it. (Practice by putting your hand in
front of you at arm's length, then spread your fingers apart and look
_beyond_ your fingers. Now do the same with the image, focusing your
eyes to look _through_ the paper to the far wall , and then just stare. In a
short while, your pattern-seeking brain will notice the "latent" patterns
in the image, giving you the 3-D, just like your mirror (glass plane) does.
Also, most of the "3-D" images are _not_ made up of a single-color image, so
don't try to make more "sense" from those "papier-mache" multicolour messes.
;-))
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: > Ack nooooo...please dont anyone design and market anything like that
\\\\ don't let them wear you down //////
Pamm Hunt
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> From: gric...@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (RICHARDSON GD - SCHOOL OF ACCOUNTANCY)
> Subject: Abstract patterns available?
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You might consider Sue Lentz Needlework. She is a designer and uses different
stitches and fibers for texture in her pieces. Some are abstrations of
everyday things, others look like kaleidoscopes or crazy quilt patterns. Her
catalog is a good reference on using different types of threads, and has lots
of variety. Her patterns are very detailed and the directions for the
different stitches are thoroughly diagrammed. The address is:
Sue Lentz Needlework
HCR 1 Box 228
Athelstane, WI 54104
715-757-3619
Mon-Fri 7AM-4PM
FAX715-757-3300
Hope this helps.
Pamm
(Who knew that once she got started, she wouldn't be able to shut up!!)