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SarahEmmm

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Aug 27, 2009, 11:53:00 AM8/27/09
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I'm afraid I mostly lurk here, but now I am stumped by this problem
and hope somebody can help.

I have bought an Ehrman 12 hpi canvas of a walnut tree, but it comes
without wool. Now I need to identify what wool to get for it, but I
have totally failed to find any conversion chart.

I saw a comment from long ago, saying that 2 strands of Paterna could
be used, but I would rather not have to split the thread as its for my
mother to do. She's 80 and would not find that very easy to deal with.

It wouldn't matter if the colours are not exact, so I guess I could
just take the canvas to my local shop and do a visual compare. But it
would be easier if I can do it all online!

TIA!!

1961...@gmail.com

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Aug 27, 2009, 12:22:11 PM8/27/09
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I saw listed on Amazon.com The Ehrman Needlepoint Book. One of the
reviews indicated it contains a conversion chart:

The designs in this book are great. However, the threads used are
mostly Appleton and Paternayan and the book contains a conversion
chart between DMC and Anchor.... Also, no information is given for
differing lengths of thread for each brand. This makes conversion into
a different thread brand extremely difficult.


Maybe you can find this book at your library or a used book store?

linda

SarahEmmm

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Aug 27, 2009, 12:41:56 PM8/27/09
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> I saw listed on Amazon.com The Ehrman Needlepoint Book.  One of the
> reviews indicated it contains a conversion chart:
...
> linda

Thanks very much for that pointer - strangely, that review doesn't
show on amazon.co.uk. But the reviewer says


"However, the threads used are mostly Appleton and Paternayan and the

book contains a conversion chart between DMC and Anchor.." so I'm not
sure if that will actually help me with this kit, as I assume the
numbers are for their own wool colour list.

Sarah

Cheryl Isaak

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Aug 27, 2009, 2:38:17 PM8/27/09
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On 8/27/09 12:41 PM, in article
c0fb5877-a118-42b9...@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com,
"SarahEmmm" <sarah...@gmail.com> wrote:

Actually, I'd bet they used Appleton numbers. Where's Ellice when we need
her (other than one her way to work on her master teacher cert)


OH DONNA....

C

needl...@gmail.com

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Aug 27, 2009, 3:24:35 PM8/27/09
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On Aug 27, 2:38 pm, Cheryl Isaak <cherylis...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 8/27/09 12:41 PM, in article
> c0fb5877-a118-42b9-96d6-35229db95...@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com,

>
> "SarahEmmm" <sarah.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I saw listed on Amazon.com The Ehrman Needlepoint Book.  One of the
> >> reviews indicated it contains a conversion chart:
> > ...
> >> linda
>
> > Thanks very much for that pointer - strangely, that review doesn't
> > show on amazon.co.uk. But the reviewer says
> > "However, the threads used are mostly Appleton and Paternayan and the
> > book contains a conversion chart between DMC and Anchor.." so I'm not
> > sure if that will actually help me with this kit, as I assume the
> > numbers are for their own wool colour list.
>
> > Sarah
>
> Actually, I'd bet they used Appleton numbers. Where's Ellice when we need
> her (other than one her way to work on her master teacher cert)
>
> OH DONNA....
>
> C

Don't look at me. Too bad Ellice is on her way to Milwaukee.

I believe Ehrman is dyeing their own wool now which is a fairly recent
development. Maybe trying contacting their US Distributor?

EHRMAN TAPESTRY
207 S. Cross St, Suite 104

Chestertown, Maryland 21620
Toll-free Telephone: 888 826 8600
Telephone: 410 810 3032
Fax: 410 810 3034

E-Mail: ehr...@toad.net

Website: www.ehrmantapestry.com

Good luck!
Donna in Virginia

Cheryl Isaak

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Aug 27, 2009, 3:30:38 PM8/27/09
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On 8/27/09 3:24 PM, in article
e7261e2d-11b0-4b83...@c2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com,
"needl...@gmail.com" <needl...@gmail.com> wrote:


I knew she was headed out someplace in the "Midwest", just not where. (Oh
and BTW the Sanford books are based there in part)


I knew you'd know the answer

SarahEmmm

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Aug 28, 2009, 2:02:20 AM8/28/09
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On Aug 27, 8:30 pm, Cheryl Isaak <cherylis...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 8/27/09 3:24 PM, in article
> e7261e2d-11b0-4b83-9f83-4ec996ee0...@c2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com,

Thanks, both of you. I'm not sure how old this design is, but I
suspect Ehrman may not want to acknowledge use of any wool other than
as sold by them - which is probably why they were selling this off on
ebay. I'll check a couple of the numbers against an Appleton chart
when I get the canvas - maybe I'll get lucky!

napaneedlepoint

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Aug 28, 2009, 6:40:53 PM8/28/09
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napaneedlepoint had written this in response to
http://www.sewgirls.com/needlework/Request-converting-Ehrman-wool-colours-to-anything-else-55915-.htm
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> I have bought an Ehrman 12 hpi canvas of a walnut tree, but it comes
> without wool. Now I need to identify what wool to get for it, but I
> have totally failed to find any conversion chart.

Sarah --

Appleton Tapestry Wool is the best choice for you to use. I don't know of
any
Appleton color cards on-line, but Needlepoint, Inc makes a silk thread
that uses
the same color numbers and it is on-line and fairly accurate. It's at
http://www.needlepointsilk.com/colorcard.htm.

Here's how I would proceed:
1. Using the book and the NPsilk color card I'd check to see if they are
using
Appleton numbers. If they are, just use those numbers to order the
threads.

2. If the numbers don't match, then Ehrman is using a different thread or
numbering system (It could be either). Use the NPsilk chart and the
picture of
the stitched piece as much as possible to assign tentative color numbers.
You
(best) or someone at the shop will need to look at them to be sure they
work
together.

3. If you are ordering on-line, try to find a shop with a copy of the
book, so
they can double-check the numbers. It would be better if you could go in
person
and check the colors yourself. Check against the picture of the stitched
piece,
not against the chart as they change colors in charts to make them easier
to
read.


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napaneedlepoint

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Aug 28, 2009, 6:41:07 PM8/28/09
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> I have bought an Ehrman 12 hpi canvas of a walnut tree, but it comes


> without wool. Now I need to identify what wool to get for it, but I
> have totally failed to find any conversion chart.

Sarah --

SarahEmmm

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Aug 29, 2009, 7:18:50 AM8/29/09
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Janet, thank you - that is very helpful! I will do as you suggest and
report back here for anyone else in this situation.

Sarah

SarahEmmm

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Aug 29, 2009, 12:38:13 PM8/29/09
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> 2. If the numbers don't match, then Ehrman is using a different thread or
> numbering system (It could be either). Use the NPsilkchartand the

> picture of
> the stitched piece as much as possible to assign tentativecolornumbers.
> You
> (best) or someone at the shop will need to look at them to be sure they
> work
> together.

Oh dear - they are completely different numbers! The Ehrman kit has 4-
digit numbers, all (at least on this canvas) starting with 1. The
greens are in the range 1091 to 1262 and browns 1590 to 1612.

The NeedlePoint silks are 3-digit numbers, with the green shades in
the range 240 to 450. And I agree, they seem to be identical to the
Appleton numbers from their descriptions. So if Ehrman do use Appleton
wool, they must use their own numbering system. I guess I have to go
to option 3...

cwelc...@gmail.com

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Mar 19, 2013, 12:41:45 PM3/19/13
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Hi! I would go with Appleton tapestry-weight wool. Go to buttonedup.com and you can see all the Appleton wool colors right online. You can also call their shop---it is way out on the West Coast of Canada, so pkgs do take a LONG time. Their staff, though, are helpful and so pleasant. I think if you google "Appleton wool," you may find closer Canadian shops, but Buttonedup has the best color representations.

Good luck!

cwelc...@gmail.com

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Mar 19, 2013, 2:06:16 PM3/19/13
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Here's another idea...not sure if the previous note was posted...anyway, Ehrman here on the East Coast will send you (for a fee) their wools. I believe you can find the USA phone number online or on the papers that came with your canvas. I would bet that they could even choose the colors for you, as it is their canvas, especially when you explain the situation.
Carolyn

Joan Erickson

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Mar 19, 2013, 7:54:52 PM3/19/13
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On 3/19/2013 11:41 AM, cwelc...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi! I would go with Appleton tapestry-weight wool. Go to buttonedup.com and you can see all the Appleton wool colors right online. You can also call their shop---it is way out on the West Coast of Canada, so pkgs do take a LONG time. Their staff, though, are helpful and so pleasant. I think if you google "Appleton wool," you may find closer Canadian shops, but Buttonedup has the best color representations.
>
> Good luck!
>

Odd...wondering what it is with the old posts. The original request for
this was from Aug. '09!

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Donna

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Mar 20, 2013, 9:05:33 AM3/20/13
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On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 7:54:52 PM UTC-4, Joan Erickson wrote:
> On 3/19/2013 11:41 AM, cwelc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Hi! I would go with Appleton tapestry-weight wool. Go to buttonedup.com and you can see all the Appleton wool colors right online. You can also call their shop---it is way out on the West Coast of Canada, so pkgs do take a LONG time. Their staff, though, are helpful and so pleasant. I think if you google "Appleton wool," you may find closer Canadian shops, but Buttonedup has the best color representations.
>
> >
>
> > Good luck!
>
> >
>
>
>
> Odd...wondering what it is with the old posts. The original request for
>
> this was from Aug. '09!
>
>
>
I know. I was thinking the same thoughts. And for some reason can't see the info on the poster. Oh well.

Donna in Virginia

Karen C

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Mar 20, 2013, 11:21:48 AM3/20/13
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Betcha it's people from SewGirls who are too dumb to look at posting
dates to realize they're answering questions that have long-since been
answered....


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Karen C

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lucreti...@fl.it wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:21:48 -0700, Karen C <KMC...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Betcha it's people from SewGirls who are too dumb to look at posting
>>dates to realize they're answering questions that have long-since been
>>answered....
>
>
>
> i went to have a look and check that out, seems, as far as i can see,
> sew girls is defunct. they are now inspirepoint.com.
>
> your posts still show - minus the signature - mine don't and haven't
> since i contacted their attorney and told them i wanted them to set
> their thieving up not include me. that worked.



I told them, too, but apparently they didn't pay attention to me because
I didn't come across as big a GOW as you.

Well, since it's visible, maybe my comment above will remind the idiots
to look at the ORIGINAL posting dates and not just the date the question
appeared in their newsfeed.
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