Gay or Lesbian Cross Stitchers...
melanie aswell
melanie aswell
I know it worked because I got a response. Now my posting seems to
have disappeared...I'm new at this, so somebody help me out.
WHAT'S A HEADER?
HOW DO I RESPOND TO A POST?
As for all you queer x-stitchers out there, I'm desperate! Need a
little family support...
Alice Christensen
aswell) wrote:
I'm curious. How does being gay or lesbian affect your cross-stitching. I
don't feel compelled to announce that I'm a heterosexual cross-stitcher and
I really don't see that your sexual preference has anything to do with it.
This is a serious question and not a flame. Please respond to newsgroup
and not to my email.
Interested
sund...@max.u.washington.edu
Excuse me, but what difference does sexual orientation make? Can't we just be
stitchers who share our joy in the craft without being subdivided any further?
I don't think needlework recognizes any class distinctions.
This is not meant as a flame or to be in any way antagonistic. Just my way of
accepting people for who they are, not what they are.
Sandi
faeriedustbunnies
: In article <3c7u7e$a...@crcnis3.unl.edu>, mas...@unlinfo.unl.edu (melanie
: aswell) wrote:
: Interested
Well, I for one have been interested in finding x-stitch patterns
featuring symbols related to the gay/lesbian/bi pride movement (rainbow
flags, lambda symbols, or things more obscure such as samplers featuring
quotes from prominent gay persons such as Walt Whitman and others). I've
been stitching since I was 16 and a bi woman all my life and proud of
both :) And it doesnt affect my cross-stitching atall, other than perhaps
finding it hard to find marriage/union sampler patterns for friends in
same-sex relationships that dont feature heterosexual bride/groom
couples on them; but there are enough out there that dont incorporate human
figures (i.e. Teresa Wentzler's new Wedding Sampler) so as not to be a
problem.
Happy Stitchin! Keep them rows straight even if you arent! :)
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Laura Shumar
faeriedustbunnies <cha...@netcom.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I for one have been interested in finding x-stitch patterns
>featuring symbols related to the gay/lesbian/bi pride movement (rainbow
>flags, lambda symbols, or things more obscure such as samplers featuring
>quotes from prominent gay persons such as Walt Whitman and others). I've
>been stitching since I was 16 and a bi woman all my life and proud of
>both :) And it doesnt affect my cross-stitching atall, other than perhaps
>finding it hard to find marriage/union sampler patterns for friends in
>same-sex relationships that dont feature heterosexual bride/groom
>couples on them; but there are enough out there that dont incorporate human
>figures (i.e. Teresa Wentzler's new Wedding Sampler) so as not to be a
>problem.
>
filled with lots of pictures, intended to help stitchers who can't draw
(like me!) design personalized samplers.
There's a whole section on wedding samplers, with lots of figures to
pick and choose from, so you could easily design one for a same-sex
wedding. She also has designs for everything from royal weddings to
registry office weddings, and even a "courtship sampler" - for those who
have set up housekeeping together without a formal ceremony.
This is a really cool book, for just about any designs :-)
-Laura
Susan May
: In article <3c7u7e$a...@crcnis3.unl.edu>, mas...@unlinfo.unl.edu (melanie
: aswell) wrote:
: Interested
I absolutely agree. While I feel it is good for you to be so open
about your sexual orientation, it has nothing to do with your
x-stitching ability. And as for the statement about looking for
"family support"...I would like to think of all of us who enjoy
needlework and read this group to think of each other as a sort of
net-family...regardless of whom we chose to be intimate with.
Susan Profit
In article <3clo97$c...@netaxs.com>, Susan May <susa...@netaxs.com>
wrote:
>Alice Christensen (Chri...@chem.nwu.edu) wrote:
>: In article <3c7u7e$a...@crcnis3.unl.edu>, mas...@unlinfo.unl.edu
(melanie
>: aswell) wrote:
>
stitchers.
>: I'm curious. How does being gay or lesbian affect your
cross-stitching. I
>
> about your sexual orientation, it has nothing to do with your
> x-stitching ability.
each individual stitcher is often partially based on who/what/how they
define themselves to be.
I take a number of cross stitch magazines. Many of them have request
columns where folks ask for sources for patterns they would like to find
a copy of. Many times, within a few months of a request for a hard to
find design one would be released by either the magazine or by a
designer. Coincidence? Not always.
I even know of one entire magazine that was founded because of a request
for a specific type of pattern that was not then, or currently readily
available.
I know that designers frequent this and several other newsgroups and
boards. It is not unreasonable to assume that posting a request for any
design, no matter how unusual, might not reach a designer willing to
market a design to fill it. But, if a request is never made, how can
they even know there is a market niche to be filled?
While I agree that sexual orientation, race, gender or religion don't
directly affect your stitching ability, we know from the response to the
California Stitchery catalog from this summer that Religion DOES indeed
affect what patterns some stitchers choose. Why wouldn't other things in
the stitcher's life affect those choices as well?
I know that my hobby of gardening affects what flower patterns I choose
to stitch: I prefer them to look like the designer has actually seen
one of them. I may stitch a whimsical fairy for a child's picture, but I
want a Butterfly to look real. And angels with wings that look like no
bird ever had anything like this I will not be stitching any time soon.
One of the Asian women at the local stiching group always substitutes
Asian colors for skin tones, and one of the magazines published a color
chart for common substitutions for African American, Asian and Native
American skin and hair colors.
If I can make decisions like this when I stitch, why is it so hard to
look a the possibility that a stitcher might want a
Wedding/Handfasting/Betrothal/Commitment sampler with multiple options
for the human figure combinations on it?
@}->- ;) Tinne Laughter Heals ;D -<-{@
Esther Heller
><Christsn-0...@christsn.chem.nwu.edu> <3clo97$c...@netaxs.com>
Original quote of someone looking for gay xstitchers followed by long
meditation on self identity affecting stitching subjects deleted...
>I know that my hobby of gardening affects what flower patterns I choose
>to stitch: I prefer them to look like the designer has actually seen
>one of them. I may stitch a whimsical fairy for a child's picture, but I
>want a Butterfly to look real. And angels with wings that look like no
>bird ever had anything like this I will not be stitching any time soon.
>One of the Asian women at the local stiching group always substitutes
>Asian colors for skin tones, and one of the magazines published a color
>chart for common substitutions for African American, Asian and Native
>American skin and hair colors. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Where??? Or would anyone be willing to post the list??? Although I am
"white" I am part of a multicolor congregation and social life. I have
been shuffling the colors on the L&L Heavenly Gifts (3 angels carrying
della Robbia type garlands) to be clear instead of muddy, and also
making a couple of the angels non-Caucasion. I have been playing match
on my own but it would be interesting to see how close I have come to
someone else's ideas. Coming up with several shades of brown skin followed
by several shades of very dark brown hair has been interesting.
Esther Heller e...@raster.kodak.com Of course my opinions are my own!
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> One of the Asian women at the local stiching group always substitutes
> Asian colors for skin tones, and one of the magazines published a color
> chart for common substitutions for African American, Asian and Native
> American skin and hair colors.
Ooh, ooh, ooh! Which magazine, what issue?
Okay, so I'm Caucasian myself, but I think this bit about designers
including options for faces in the chart (Marilyn Leavitt-Imblum has
started doing this, hasn't she?) rather than assuming a default is
the world's coolest thing. And if I can find the catalog again (it
was either Mary Maxim or Annie's Attic, I think), I'm going to order
the crochet pattern for the international angels for my Christmas tree.
-Rachel
da...@pandoras.nacjack.gen.nz
> >chart for common substitutions for African American, Asian and Native
> >American skin and hair colors. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Where??? Or would anyone be willing to post the list??? Although I am
> "white" I am part of a multicolor congregation and social life. I have
> been shuffling the colors on the L&L Heavenly Gifts (3 angels carrying
> della Robbia type garlands) to be clear instead of muddy, and also
There are African-American colour substitutes on at least two L&L charts
that I know of, they are 'The Wedding' and the new bride 'I Thee Wed',
and probably more than I don't know of.
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faeriedustbunnies
: <Christsn-0...@christsn.chem.nwu.edu> <3clo97$c...@netaxs.com>
Can you remember what magazine and issue this might have been in? I know
Stoney Creek frequently publishes alternative skin tone color keys but I
am not particularly fond of their designs (too "blocky" for my taste,
although the shading can be interesting on some).
Thanks :)
:
: If I can make decisions like this when I stitch, why is it so hard to
: look a the possibility that a stitcher might want a
: Wedding/Handfasting/Betrothal/Commitment sampler with multiple options
: for the human figure combinations on it?
*sigh* a HANDFASTING sampler! thats just what I need for my spouse and
myself :)
: @}->- ;) Tinne Laughter Heals ;D -<-{@