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Karen Crook

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Feb 20, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/20/99
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A question to the world of stitchers - to date, I have
not attempted to hang any of my framed cross-stitch pieces
in the bathroom area because I was worried about the
possible moisture damage. With a vent going during all
showers, is a framed/glassed piece safe? I'd hate to
spend all that time on a beautiful piece (let alone the
cost of framing!) only to lose it in a few years.

thanks for any advice

Karen

MJB5019

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Feb 21, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/21/99
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I have an unglassed sampler in the bathroom without a window that still looks
good after 3 years. I also have a framed/glassed Print in the same bathroom
that is as yet undamaged. Mj
Mj in southern California

MissyCor

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Feb 21, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/21/99
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Karen Crook wrote:

>With a vent going during all
>showers, is a framed/glassed piece safe?

I haven't had any trouble thus far. I've got a small sunflower in my bathroom
& I framed it myself so it's not sealed properly or anything, and it's fine.
A professionally framed piece would probably be very safe.
Melissa C.

LISA & TIM

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I have unglassed XS in my bath, which has no fan, but one large
window...and it's been in that room for 5 years or more. Not a sign of
any damage that I can see! I'd be interested to hear about glassed
pieces and anyone's experiences with those in a bath, just for future
reference!

Happy Stitching,
Lisa

Sampler45

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Feb 21, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/21/99
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>Framed work safe in bathrooms?

I have a stitched piece of a sea shell in my bathroom, which has a fan (which
no one seems to know how to use) and a window! It has been there since 1989 (I
checked the date), and looks as good as it did when I hung it there. It was
professionally framed and is under glass.


Pat in NJ


JPageC

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Feb 21, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/21/99
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In article <36CF8C...@erols.com>, Karen Crook <cro...@erols.com> writes:

>A question to the world of stitchers - to date, I have
>not attempted to hang any of my framed cross-stitch pieces
>in the bathroom area because I was worried about the
>possible moisture damage.

I'm doing a seashell design as a bell pull for my bathroom for that very
reason. I figure that's less likely to retain moisture than a framed piece,
with or without glass.


Jacqueline
Morgantown WV
WIPs: "Rosy Repose" by Paula Vaughn
"Santa Portrait" (Vermillion Stitchery) in JCS 1998 ornament issue
"Seashell Favorites" from LA's "Quick as a Wink" leaflet

Miniature Embroideries

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Feb 21, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/21/99
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Bathroom - safe for samplers?
Should last reasonably well. We have several antique samplers which have
lasted for centuries in English - v. damp - houses without any problems. We
also have some in the kitchen which is an equally harsh environment and
there dosn't seem to be a problem.
However if you are going to go for a bathroom location it would definately
be wise to seal the sampler into the frame with a clear flexible sealant
(out of sight) such as that used to seal windows or sinks. If the glass to
frame area is sealed, the frame is varnished and the back is properly taped
with waterproof tape over the normal backing it should be fine. Better not
to put it in direct sunlight of course.

Regards.
Rob
http://www.miniature-embroideries.co.uk


Martha Beth Lewis

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Feb 22, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/22/99
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In <36CF8C...@erols.com> Karen Crook <cro...@erols.com> writes:
>
>A question to the world of stitchers - to date, I have
>not attempted to hang any of my framed cross-stitch pieces
>in the bathroom area because I was worried about the
>possible moisture damage.

I have had framed stitching under glass hanging in my bathroom for
years with no problems. I live in the San Francisco area, which is not
terribly humid except in the winter. This may have an impact on my
success. mb

Willem Smits

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Feb 22, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/22/99
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Hello Karen Crook

FYI I have had two needleworks hanging in the bathroom here for nearly 6
years now. They are glazed and framed with acid free double alpha mattboard.
The material is stretched on 3 ply marine (moisture proof) board and covered
with a layer of acid free (white) barrier paper and firmly sealed with self
adhesive framers tape. To date there is no sign of sweating or mould and
believe me our Sydney summers really put this to the test!

Regards

Willem Smits
Witch Stitch Needlecraft & Framing
55 Mitchell St
Sydney NSW 2036 Australia
http://www.users.bigpond.com/witchstitch

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Witch Stitch Needlecraft & Framing
55 Mitchell St
Sydney NSW 2036 Australia
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>A question to the world of stitchers - to date, I have
>not attempted to hang any of my framed cross-stitch pieces
>in the bathroom area because I was worried about the

bds-pds

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Feb 22, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/22/99
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I have framed petitpoint French medieval scenes on each side of the window
in my guest /children's bathroom. Thus far no problem but the boys have the
distinct need, upon death!, to put the fan on prior to showering. The
backing is professionally done and that may be the clue and of course
spacers in front of the work between the glass. No trouble yet but moisture
is indeed a scare. I decorated the room with French pots, fleur-de-lis work
and if the pieces didn't complement it so very well, I probably wouldn't
have done it. But, like I regress, there has been no damage yet with the
fan going.....bdiane

JillyP

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Feb 23, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/23/99
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On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:33:43 -0500, Karen Crook <cro...@erols.com> invaded my consciousness with
the following:

>A question to the world of stitchers - to date, I have
>not attempted to hang any of my framed cross-stitch pieces
>in the bathroom area because I was worried about the
>possible moisture damage.

I have a framed piece of a cat in my bathroom (under glass, professionally framed) and it hasn't
faded or deteriorated after nine years, so I'd say go for it. I do tend to take the Japanese view on
needlework - it will last as long as it lasts, and it's better to display it and enjoy it rather
than hide it away in a dark place and never look at it.

Jilly P
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Distect

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Feb 23, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/23/99
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I've been reading the various posts about hanging frames pieces in the bathroom
and I'm surprised at how many people mention putting glass over their pieces.
Ever since I began stitching (granted, it's only been 12 years) I've been told
and have read never to use glass when framing a piece of needlework. Reasons
given are both inaccesability (can't look closely and see detail when a piece
is behind glass) and that glassing a piece can actually contribute to faster
deterioration than exposure to air. When did the general concensus change?
(Since I rarely get around to framing pieces :-O - and dislike the look of
needlework behind glass anyway - I haven't paid very close attention to framing
techniques.)

Colleen

Linda D.

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Feb 23, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/23/99
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Hi there...

I have the Cicely Mary Barker's 'Clover Fairy' framed and
hanging in my main bathroom. It's been there approx. 10 yrs. and no
problems with it at all.

Take care, Linda :)


On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:33:43 -0500, Karen Crook <cro...@erols.com>

wrote:

>A question to the world of stitchers - to date, I have
>not attempted to hang any of my framed cross-stitch pieces
>in the bathroom area because I was worried about the

Mays

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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:03:00 GMT,my....@will.not.eat.spam (JillyP)
stitched with finest floss on pure irish linen:

>I have a framed piece of a cat in my bathroom

And which piece would that be????
Ruth Mays
Cinnaminson, NJ
This person is a natural product. The slight
variations in color and texture enhance its
individual character and beauty and in no way
are to be considered flaws or defects.

JPageC

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In article <36d4260c...@news.mindspring.com>, may...@mindspring.com (Mays)
writes:

>>I have a framed piece of a cat in my bathroom
>And which piece would that be????

ROFL!!!! Around here, that'd have to be the paw that keeps being placed in my
full water cup when I'm trying to brush my teeth!

LISA & TIM

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Colleen,

I depends on the piece for me, whether or not I put it behind glass.
Typically, if the piece is matted, it gets glass - but not always. Just
personal preference for me. I'm not into rules - I do this for fun. But,
I do agree that you can 'see' the detail better without the glass.

Happy Stitching,
Lisa in NS, Canada

BDS...@msn.com

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I frame all small pieces up to 30 inches. If they are larger than that , I
hang the tapestry on rods. bdiane

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hgrei...@fastransit.net.uk

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On 23 Feb 1999 06:57:06 GMT, jpa...@aol.com (JPageC) wrote:

>
>In article <36d4260c...@news.mindspring.com>, may...@mindspring.com (Mays)
>writes:
>
>>>I have a framed piece of a cat in my bathroom
>>And which piece would that be????
>
>ROFL!!!! Around here, that'd have to be the paw that keeps being placed in my
>full water cup when I'm trying to brush my teeth!
>
>
>Jacqueline

Too funny! I also have a cat that likes to dip her paw into water
and then lick it off. And I have two cats who like to drink
directly from the faucet. One of my cats will drink from the water
bowl in the upstairs bathroom but not from the bowl in the kitchen.
Crazy critters! It's all the same water!!!!
Anne/NC

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Mays

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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:39:46 GMT,hgrei...@fastransit.net.uk stitched

with finest floss on pure irish linen:

>Too funny! I also have a cat that likes to dip her paw into water


>and then lick it off. And I have two cats who like to drink
>directly from the faucet. One of my cats will drink from the water
>bowl in the upstairs bathroom but not from the bowl in the kitchen.
>Crazy critters! It's all the same water!!!!
>Anne/NC

But they don't know that....we had a cat who would go the front door
to be let out, and if it was raining, he would growl in disgust and
head for the back door, expecting better weather there. Of course, he
was always disappointed, which would cause him to head back for the
front door....ad infinitum....

Another of our cats liked to dip his paw into things to drink- he
finished off a whole glass of egg-nog that way once.

Marja Lugo

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Distect wrote in message
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>and I'm surprised at how many people mention putting glass over their
pieces.
>Ever since I began stitching (granted, it's only been 12 years) I've
been told
>and have read never to use glass when framing a piece of needlework.
>

>Colleen

For the past ten years I put glass over every significant piece I make.
I find that it does not take away any of the beauty, but it does keep my
work clean. With dust and cigarette smoke turning my older pieces into
a brownish colour, I gladly spend the extra money for glass, rather then
taking my work apart frequently to wash and reframe it.

Marja

JPageC

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Feb 24, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/24/99
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In article <36d2c68c...@news.fastransit.net>, hgrei...@fastransit.net.uk
writes:

>Too funny! I also have a cat that likes to dip her paw into water
>and then lick it off. And I have two cats who like to drink
>directly from the faucet. One of my cats will drink from the water
>bowl in the upstairs bathroom but not from the bowl in the kitchen.
>Crazy critters! It's all the same water!!!!
>Anne/NC
>
>

My ex-SIL, who never had *any* pets, was a meticulous housekeeper and her pet
peeve was hair in the bathroom sink. I thought she'd faint the day she learned
that, not only was there cat hair in the sink, there was usually a *cat* in the
sink when I brushed my teeth!

JillyP

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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 03:53:07 GMT, may...@mindspring.com (Mays) invaded my consciousness with the
following:

>On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:03:00 GMT,my....@will.not.eat.spam (JillyP)


>stitched with finest floss on pure irish linen:
>

>>I have a framed piece of a cat in my bathroom
>And which piece would that be????

Love to be able to laugh at this, Ruth, but not today. Today I came home to find that my three-year
old ginger cat isn't going to get any older - he was run over just behind my house.
Dead.
That's all she wrote.

Jilly P

Ruth Carlos

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Feb 25, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/25/99
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In Cinq?
Maybe?
Cheers,
Ruth, Sydney NSW
Mays wrote in message <36d4260c...@news.mindspring.com>...

>On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:03:00 GMT,my....@will.not.eat.spam (JillyP)
>stitched with finest floss on pure irish linen:
>
>>I have a framed piece of a cat in my bathroom
>And which piece would that be????

Mays

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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:23:19 GMT,my....@will.not.eat.spam (JillyP)

stitched with finest floss on pure irish linen:

>Love to be able to laugh at this, Ruth, but not today. Today I came home to find that my three-year


>old ginger cat isn't going to get any older - he was run over just behind my house.
>Dead.
>That's all she wrote.
>
>Jilly P

How absolutely awful! I'm so sorry.......

hgrei...@fastransit.net.uk

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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:23:19 GMT, my....@will.not.eat.spam (JillyP)
wrote:

>Love to be able to laugh at this, Ruth, but not today. Today I came home to find that my three-year
>old ginger cat isn't going to get any older - he was run over just behind my house.
>Dead.
>That's all she wrote.
>
>Jilly P
>
Jilly, I'm so sorry. It is so hard to lose a pet. I'm sure that
he's beyond the rainbow bridge right now, maybe playing with my
deceased babies.

Lynn37MA

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Feb 25, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/25/99
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Colleen writes:
>>and I'm surprised at how many people mention putting glass over their
>pieces.
>>Ever since I began stitching (granted, it's only been 12 years) I've
>been told
>>and have read never to use glass when framing a piece of needlework.
>>

How odd that you have been told that. From a conservation standpoint, glass is
a must providing that it is UV glass, of course.

To glass or not to glass is a very individual issue. I will not frame anything
of mine without UV glass.

LynnMA

Lizzy Taylor

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Feb 25, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/25/99
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In article <36d2c68c...@news.fastransit.net>,
hgrei...@fastransit.net.uk wrote:


> Too funny! I also have a cat that likes to dip her paw into water
> and then lick it off. And I have two cats who like to drink
> directly from the faucet. One of my cats will drink from the water
> bowl in the upstairs bathroom but not from the bowl in the kitchen.
> Crazy critters! It's all the same water!!!!
> Anne/NC


My cat does the same but with tea! She prefers it with milk and sugar does
DH, but mine with milk but no sugar is acceptable. Also I drain my mug but
DH always leaves the dregs in his - the legacy of being brought up drinking
tea with leaves, but without a tea strainer.

Lizzy

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Rhea

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Feb 28, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/28/99
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I have a piece under glass that has been hanging in my bathroom for six
years. No problem there.

Rhea

Rhea

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Feb 28, 1999, 8:00:00 AM2/28/99
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I have always put my pieces under glass. Only last week did I frame my
first piece on foam core. It was a piece that had several embellishments
that would not fit under glass. I really like it, but I won't make it a
habit unless there are embellishments.

Rhea


>>and I'm surprised at how many people mention putting glass over their
>pieces.
>>Ever since I began stitching (granted, it's only been 12 years) I've
>been told
>>and have read never to use glass when framing a piece of needlework.
>>

>>Colleen
>>

KaIiedra

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I think it depends also on the size of the piece you are hanging in the
bathroom. I've had needlework in my bathroom for years. I stitched Mirabila's
two mermaids to hang in there and they were hanging about 6 months before I saw
wrinkles start to form in the fabric. I took one apart just to be sure about
the mounting and they were both properly laced, the foam board had actually
started to warp from the humidity (I have a small yet busy bathroom) Needless
to say they are no longer hanging in that bathroom, I've moved them to the
guest bathroom which is more seldom used and I haven't had a problem since. Now
there are smaller pieces that hung there before, they made it 8 years, might as
well add another while I stitch something new.

Kali~
(to email me remove 99 from my address)
http://hometown.aol.com/kaiiedra/

Lesleyanne Banks

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Mar 3, 1999, 8:00:00 AM3/3/99
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I have 5 pieces on the wall, and a bunch of other doily/box tops/etc stuff
out right now, and only one is under glass. I definitely prefer the
non-glass look, and frankly, I like to be able to *gasp* touch my fabric!!
It's all laced or pinned, so it's not difficult to pull it all apart and
rewash it, should it ever get soiled.

All the gifts I make go under glass, however. I don't always know how
they'll be kept, and it's easier to keep them good under glass, but IMHO,
easier to appreciate when without.

LAB


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Jodi Merusi

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I'm a needlework designer/teacher and I put glass on every piece that I do for
myself -- I always make sure there are spacers to allow the fabric to "breathe" and
that acid free products are used throughout. This literally saved one of my models
(a 40ct. silk gauze picture of a cottage --chart Katrina's Cottage -- while it was
being stored for an exhibition a fire broke out in the storage room. The frame got
soaked from the water sprinklers and it totally fell apart but the needlework
itself was perfectly fine because of the glass protecting it. Some people were not
so lucky -- their pieces were damaged beyond repair from the water or if the
needlework was closer to the fire they were given bags of ashes!) I teach and
therefore, travel with many of my models and on those pieces I do not put glass
(all I'd need is to arrive at my destination with a suitcase and trunk full of
glass.) It also helps the students to see the stitches "up close". When I retire
those models then I have glass put in and I hang them on my walls.
Jodi Merusi
Vintage Designs
http://www.tiac.net/users/ctneedle


Distect wrote:

> I've been reading the various posts about hanging frames pieces in the bathroom

> and I'm surprised at how many people mention putting glass over their pieces.
> Ever since I began stitching (granted, it's only been 12 years) I've been told

> and have read never to use glass when framing a piece of needlework. Reasons

Marsha

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Jodi Merusi wrote:

> I'm a needlework designer/teacher and I put glass on every piece that I do for
> myself -- I always make sure there are spacers to allow the fabric to "breathe" and
> that acid free products are used throughout. This literally saved one of my models
> (a 40ct. silk gauze picture of a cottage --chart Katrina's Cottage -- while it was
> being stored for an exhibition a fire broke out in the storage room.

**snip**

Oooh, sounds like the setting for a good mystery! Arson at an exhibition.....

--
--Marsha (mom to Alex, aka SnuggleBunny, Rabbit, Sunshine, Mr. Wiggly)


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