new girl...a little about me
Tammy - Calgary
Thought I would tell you a bit about myself. Of course I read three
of the monica ferris novels and heard about this newsgroup and was
very intrested.
I am 26 years old. I have been cross stitching for 10 years and have
over 86 projects completed. (and no I don't own them all)
My greatest joy in doing cross stitch is for about 5 reasons
1. It relaxes me
2. I get to collect some pretty neat stuff
3. To see the faces of the people I give my projects too
4. I get to meet with new frinds and do the same thing they like to do
without them thinking I'm crazy
5. and the best of all I get to admire my own work and always strive
for better
I entered my first competion this year at the Calgary Stampede, I had
done Water Tiger by Kustom Krafts. I receive a lot of compliments, but
did not place. My stitches weren't the same tension. I now just
learnt how to railroad so maybe next year I'll place (I hope).
I am a Pharmacy Technician for Safeway and I am originally from Sault
Ste. Marie Ontario.
Hope to talk to some of you and become friends.
Tam
Ruth409028
>of the monica ferris novels and heard about this newsgroup and was
>very intrested.
Hi, Tam. Welcome to RCTN. This is a fun place to visit.
I don't even know how long I have been doing counted cross stitch, because I
was doing it on crocheted afghans before I even knew there was a name for it.
When someone suggested I do a counted cross stitch, I replied "I wouldn't even
know how to start." Her reply was "you are already doing it on your afghans.
It is the same principle." So, off I went and haven't stopped yet.
My 3 girls get most of mine. The second oldest has 9, my youngest has 8 and
the oldest has 7. I try my best to keep them halfway even, but sometimes what
I want to work on just seems to fit one better than the other 2. Several have
gone to friends who appreciate all the work involved.
Frances
Take Jacques out before replying.
Bob & Marg Whittleton
Welcome, Tammy.
I agree with all your reasons for stitching.
There are a number of us Northerners here. I live in Ajax, Ontario,
but my Mom is from the Soo (East Korah, actually), and we lived there
for five years when I as growing up, so I know it well. (Heck, seems as
if half my relatives still live in the Soo).
Enjoy
Bungadora
I'm an occasional poster, and from Calgary as well. I'm afraid I didn't make it
down to the grounds this year to see the needlework. What piece did you enter
in the needlework exhibition?
Dora
> saulto...@shaw.ca (Tammy - Calgary)
Pat EAXStitch
swarm of wild haird/eyed stitchers, scissors in hand, stampeding down to the
needlework exhibition! Scary!
Even more do I think of Calgary as a beautiful peaceful bay, nearly
com[pletely unpopulateds, off the West Coast of Scotland! It nust have been
a homesick Scottish settler who named you Calgary after that idyllic spot -
and then look what happened!
Pat P
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Cheryl Isaak
EAXStitch" <eaxs...@NOSPAMntlworld.com> wrote:
> Adds a whole new meaning to the Calgary Stampede. Now I`ll imagine it as a
> swarm of wild haird/eyed stitchers, scissors in hand, stampeding down to the
> needlework exhibition! Scary!
>
To those from Calgary - I have a daylily Calgary Stampede
Here's someone else's picture
http://www.abacom.com/chacha/day_calgarystampede.htm
Cheryl
Pat EAXStitch
Pat P
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Cheryl
On 8/5/04 5:56 PM, in article A2yQc.749$Mt4...@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net, "Pat
val189
> To those from Calgary - I have a daylily Calgary Stampede
> Here's someone else's picture
>
> http://www.abacom.com/chacha/day_calgarystampede.htm
hey - that would make a dynamite design for ndlpt!! I like the
one-large-flower types.
Bungadora
>
>Adds a whole new meaning to the Calgary Stampede. Now I`ll imagine it as a
>swarm of wild haird/eyed stitchers, scissors in hand, stampeding down to the
>needlework exhibition! Scary!
>
Just about, Pat. People can get in for free before 9am or so on the morning of
the first Sunday, and that is when I usually go. Of course everyone brings
their families as well, and strollers of course, so thousands of people come
streaming down the ramp into the turnstiles when they open the gates. Come to
think of it, scissors would come in very handy. Hmmm.
>Even more do I think of Calgary as a beautiful peaceful bay, nearly
>com[pletely unpopulateds, off the West Coast of Scotland! It nust have been
>a homesick Scottish settler who named you Calgary after that idyllic spot -
>and then look what happened!
I went and found a site.
http://www.calgary-convention.com/public_html/experience_history.asp
It was named by a Scot serving in the RCMP, but not Scottish enough, it
appears. The original Fort Calgary was located near the intersection of the Bow
and Elbow Rivers. He incorrectly translated the word Calgary from Gaelic as
meaning "clear running water", whereas it actually means "cove garden".
Dora
>
>
>
Cheryl Isaak
e624bdd3.04080...@posting.google.com, "val189"
<gweh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I'd love to find designs of "modern" daylilies. There was someone doing
them, but her website it gone (ELF Designs, Emily Fenner). Sigh, should have
bought them when I saw them
Cheryl
Tammy - Calgary
Tammy
fredred102
read and lots of talent available to learn from.
Mary In MN
"Tammy - Calgary" <saulto...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Bungadora
>> >
>> >I tought at the make and take in the first sunday, its family day. We
>tought about 150 people from 9 till about 4 and the other girls were there
>till 8 that night. Talk about having patients. I did enjoy it though because
>people asked if I had entered a piece and I was able to tell tell yes and
>they always gave my very nice comments after.
Well that must have been gratifying. Does the make and take go on continuously?
I would have enjoyed going, but I didn't want to get up early enough to get in
free. Plus I was working that day. I'm a bit curious about what designs were
stitched by the winners this year though. And was there any original work?
Dora
Tammy - Calgary
I didn't even think to find out which ones were originals. I the
section I entered in, a picture of wolves, magnolias won section. I
stitch with that lady at the stitch iins at 2 busy stitch'n. A lot of
the girls entered other stuff like knitting and beaded and stuff like
that. There was a whole range of pictures entered this year about one
pattern of every kind.
I hope I answered your question, the make an take is two days of
crosstitch, 2 days of scrapbooking two days of something else and so
on.
Tam
Bungadora
>
>I didn't even think to find out which ones were originals. I the
>section I entered in, a picture of wolves, magnolias won section. I
>stitch with that lady at the stitch iins at 2 busy stitch'n. A lot of
>the girls entered other stuff like knitting and beaded and stuff like
>that. There was a whole range of pictures entered this year about one
>pattern of every kind.
>
Just curious. I actually kind of like it when I see a needlework competition
with the same piece worked by two different people, particularly if one places
and the other one doesn't. Sometimes you can see why, other times not.
Dora
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
people ,,, but i can relate to to your interest in seeing the
difference in their work and later display method ,,,,While working
with the Ministry of Education , and visiting 'End of Year" exhibition
i strongly opposed this `Everybody doing the same pattern`.
mirjam
Karen C - California
bung...@aol.comnospam (Bungadora) writes:
> I actually kind of like it when I see a needlework competition
>with the same piece worked by two different people, particularly if one
>places
>and the other one doesn't. Sometimes you can see why, other times not.
I also like comparing when one has done it "straight" and the other has been
innovative (viz., The Karen putting hologram thread in everything), and
wondering whether the judges gave the second extra points for creativity.
OTOH, there's frequently the confusion of why an exquisitely-worked, complex
small piece of stitchery doesn't even rate an honorable mention and an
amateurish rendition of a large chart gets a ribbon. (We're talking 11-count
Aida, stitches crossed any-which-way, inconsistent tension, the only thing the
thing has going for it is MLI's artistry in charting it - versus 36-count,
drawn-thread that The Karen can't find anything to nitpick)
--
Finished 7/18/04 -- 6 bear ornaments
WIP: Fireman's Prayer (#2), Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn, Calif Sampler,
Holiday Snowglobe
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Bungadora
>
>I think it is strange to see the Same pattern worked by 2 different
>people ,,, but i can relate to to your interest in seeing the
>difference in their work and later display method ,,,,While working
>with the Ministry of Education , and visiting 'End of Year" exhibition
>i strongly opposed this `Everybody doing the same pattern`.
needlework made from a commercial pattern into exhibition, but that isn't
something that is likely to change. I look at it more now like a piano
competition, where people are judged on their interpretation and workmanship
rather than the piece's artistic merit - rather like a piano competition.
I think original work should have its own category and not compete directly
with commercial designs because I feel different skills are being measured, but
I believe it's up to the entrants to determine the category they want to enter.
Dora
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
just so that nobody jumps and flames me about my opinions , this has
been discussed before.
I like your comparing this to a piano competition, in fact is a
genious comparisson. Maybe you are aware that Israel has a wonderful
International competition named for Arthur Rubinstein , And at the two
last times , great public debates go on about the choice made for 1st
prizes ,,, is the 100% perfect Technical Pianist a better choice than
the Ones who play with Heart or a bit of private feelings in the
music.
>needlework made from a commercial pattern into exhibition,
And Say they are judging Technical skill , not creativity .
i just show a year art exhibition of the local artists house , at the
end of which a City prize is given ,,,,, i was not very happy ,.
amongst many original works some done Excelent some less , there were
several works that were `copies`of other KNOWN artworks .... What do
they think they are doing ????
mirjam
Bungadora
>
>I also like comparing when one has done it "straight" and the other has been
>innovative (viz., The Karen putting hologram thread in everything), and
>wondering whether the judges gave the second extra points for creativity.
>
>OTOH, there's frequently the confusion of why an exquisitely-worked, complex
>small piece of stitchery doesn't even rate an honorable mention and an
>amateurish rendition of a large chart gets a ribbon. (We're talking 11-count
>Aida, stitches crossed any-which-way, inconsistent tension, the only thing
>the
>thing has going for it is MLI's artistry in charting it - versus 36-count,
>drawn-thread that The Karen can't find anything to nitpick)
>
been awarded more for the content than the actual working of the piece. I have
no idea whether it is true or not, but it seems to be a fairly common
complaint. Of course this brings up the issue of how judges are selected in the
first place. Personally you couldn't pay me enough.
Dora
Bungadora
>just so that nobody jumps and flames me about my opinions , this has
>been discussed before.
>I like your comparing this to a piano competition, in fact is a
>genious comparisson. Maybe you are aware that Israel has a wonderful
>International competition named for Arthur Rubinstein , And at the two
>last times , great public debates go on about the choice made for 1st
>prizes ,,, is the 100% perfect Technical Pianist a better choice than
>the Ones who play with Heart or a bit of private feelings in the
>music.
>>Well mirjam, I used to get (somewhat) indignant about people entering
>>needlework made from a commercial pattern into exhibition,
>Maybe the oirganizers should define it differently ????
>And Say they are judging Technical skill , not creativity .
of a thing, even when following someone else's pattern. Again, using the piano
analogy, there are people who are technically perfect, but do not play with any
'soul'. The judges look for both. Creativity is always difficult to judge, and
I am not sure it should be, but I would rather see a technically perfect piece
with creativity in its execution than one that just followed the pattern
directions and recommendations for fabric selection, etc. (down to the frame
used in the model).
>i just show a year art exhibition of the local artists house , at the
>end of which a City prize is given ,,,,, i was not very happy ,.
>amongst many original works some done Excelent some less , there were
>several works that were `copies`of other KNOWN artworks .... What do
>they think they are doing ????
I would tend to agree with you, unless they took the known artwork and adapted
it somehow to needlework rather than a pictoral transcription.
Speaking of competitions, I'm off to the garden competition tour today! It's
going to be a wet one.
Dora
Karen C - California
bung...@aol.comnospam (Bungadora) writes:
>Of course this brings up the issue of how judges are selected in the
>first place
In some places, it's automatically the mayor, the priest and the oldest DJ on
the local radio station (or other respected personages ex officio), with no
requirement that they know anything about needlework.
Other places do recognize the problem with that and use Mrs. Ermintrude Farmer,
Mrs. Mildred Cooper and the maiden lady librarian, who each won ten consecutive
ribbons until they were implored to retire as Undisputed Champ and let someone
else have a chance, by offering them the position of Needlework Judge as a
bribe.
Check with your local County Fair committee to find out whether you're being
judged by someone whose chief qualification is that six generations of his
family have been the local Justice of the Peace, or by someone who actually
knows the difference between a John James Petite #28 and a crochet hook. That
may help you decide whether to enter an MLI (big, beautiful, but relatively
simple) or a less-eye-catching white-on-white sampler with 41 different
stitches over-one on 50-count linen that will have old Ermintrude hauling out
her magnifying glass to ensure that you did, indeed, fill each section with a
different stitch and didn't "cheat" by doing two sections with Reverse
Upsy-daisies.
Karen C - California
bung...@aol.comnospam (Bungadora) writes:
>I think original work should have its own category and not compete directly
>with commercial designs because I feel different skills are being measured,
Some years ago, the San Diego County Fair did have a written rule that you
couldn't enter stuff made from a kit. On several occasions, I spotted
needlework that I knew to be kits (because I couldn't get just the chart), and
the reaction was "so?" Basically, if the entrant was willing to lie when she
signed the entry form, she could enter a piece that those of us who were more
honest wouldn't have, and no one would do anything except hand her a blue
ribbon.
Since my drawing skills are kindergarten-level, I couldn't enter my original
designs and hope to compete with artistry like MLI's. I *could* have designed
and knit a sweater, but in the Land Of Endless Spring, I had no use for a
sweater, and I wasn't putting hundreds of hours into a complex award-winning
design for a 3-year-old who'd outgrow it in a month.
I'll agree that it's not fair for the amateurs to have to compete with the
professionals. But it's also not completely fair for those of us who can only
draw stick figures to compete with an amateur designer who was an honors
graduate of the San Francisco School of Fine Arts with a major in drawing and
painting.
Then again, one of these years I'm going to show up for the auditions, and blow
the socks off the judges, so I can sing the National Anthem at the opening of
the State Fair and make all those art majors who can draw but can't carry a
tune in a bucket jealous. :) I'll issue a warning so that those of you within
50 miles can ensure that your dogs don't howl when I hit one of those notes
only animals can hear. <g>
Bungadora
I might take a look at how judges are selected some time just on the basis of
curiousity about organizational behavior. From what I have heard about the
Stampede organization with respect to voluntarism people work their way up
through the volunteer positions before they actually get to do anything
responsible. Whether they actually have to know what they are doing is another
question. My impression is that the exhibits have improved over the last few
years, especially if you are a quilter.
Dora
>bung...@aol.comnospam (Bungadora) writes:
>
>>Of course this brings up the issue of how judges are selected in the
>>first place
>
>> kmc...@aol.com.LuvXS (Karen C - California)
,
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
While in Art schools the judges are from the stuff from an other art
schools [ and than one hears of teachers `exchanging`pupils `names ]/
Other kinds of competiotions here have [ Thank God and Rulings] at
least 2 artists with proper credententials , one representative of the
Prize giving body [many a time anart loving lawyer] , a
representattive of the `public` [?] i am always interested at the last
one ,,, where did he /she come from ??? and sometimes it is ok!!!
person is seriuos , sometimes it is funny ..and one wonders what the
reasons this one gives for the choice ...
mirjam
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
works, i used to write all the reasons for the grading in a letter to
the Budding artist .
mirjam
Dawne Peterson
"Bungadora" wrote
> I think original work should have its own category and not compete
directly
> with commercial designs because I feel different skills are being
measured, but
> I believe it's up to the entrants to determine the category they want to
enter.
I was a bit startled to see a what was photochart of a wedding picture
winning a prize in the original design competition here.
Dawne
Bungadora
>I was a bit startled to see a what was photochart of a wedding picture
>winning a prize in the original design competition here.
a while back who said she had a customer who had submitted a cross-stitch of
her son, and had difficulties because the judges would not believe she had not
used a computer program.
Dora
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
>I was a bit startled to see a what was photochart of a wedding picture
>winning a prize in the original design competition here.
>Dawne
>
on in the USA ? now adays ???[ shhhh no flaming please ,, you know !
those scrap albuming trends shhhh....]
mirjam
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
their own xst or petit points from looking at a person or a photo ,,,
without any problem .... I myself have already worked several real
faces [ including my own ] in several techniques ,,, and no computer
was involved ,,,, i take a small photo and LOOOOOOK than make a sketch
on math paper ,, which helps me work later ....But of course i do not
make complete pictures i work on ceratin Features , on general
outlines etc..... for one person i managed to incorporate the letters
of his name into his Profile...
mirjam
Bungadora
the piece several times to make it perfect, but had done it herself from graph
paper. My understanding was that when she was done, it was close enough to
photo realism that the judges thought she must have used electronic means. I
think this was a few years ago too, so attitudes may have changed by now.
As for trends towards reproducing photos of loved ones etc. in cross stitch, I
think that has been going on for quite some time. The only difference is that
more people have computer programs instead of getting someone else to do it for
them.
Dora
mir...@actcom.co.il (Mirjam Bruck-Cohen)
Suzanne
I don't know a thing about what's good or bad in design contests, so
forgive my ignorance. What's wrong with taking a photo, putting it
through a omputer program, and making a cross stitch picture from it?
It's not the same as working a commercial cross stitch kit and saying
it's your own. Especially if you took the photo, wouldn't it be your
original work?
--
Suze
Cat hair? That's just an embellishment.
Barbara Thompson
made in a HS sewing class because she did not use a boughten pattern.
She saw a design she liked and made her own pattern. ; ) (1930 grad)
Barbara T
On 11 Aug 2004 03:45:39 GMT, bung...@aol.comnospam (Bungadora)
wrote:
--
Barbara T
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention
of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved
body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used
up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming ------
" WOW--What a Ride!! " __Steven Wright
WIP: Superstition Mountains by Jean Lanning
Joan Erickson
> I don't know a thing about what's good or bad in design contests, so
> forgive my ignorance. What's wrong with taking a photo, putting it
> through a omputer program, and making a cross stitch picture from it?
There's nothing "wrong" with doing that but for a competition for
"Original Design" there's a big difference, IMO. My opinion (which
hardly matters to anyone! :) ) is it's because there's a *lot* more work
involved in designing from scratch as opposed to computer-generation
(CG). With CG, the computer does probably 3/4 of the work for
you--laying out and printing a pattern from the existing photo and
choosing colors. The "designer" has only to figure out which confetti
stitches to remove without affecting the overall look.
With a design-from-scratch (DFS), the artist has to actually start out
drawing a design (or have one in their head), choosing the stitches,
deciding on fibers/fabric, choosing colors (which, IME, is *very*
time-consuming!), stitching, all the while creating the pattern, and
then deciding if what you chose is having the effect you want. If not,
frogging occurs. :)
Yes, you may have taken the picture and yes, you may have done
some/lots of manipulation of the design to get it "right" but, in my
(limited) experience, it doesn't compare to coming up with just the
right stitch or, even harder at times, just the right color combinations.
There's a lot more "heart" or "feeling" in a DFS, IMHO. I've noticed I
have purchased very few CG designs just for that reason. If I want a
"photo", I'll take a picture. :)
Now, for those of you who have had more designing experience than me,
how close does this match your idea of "original design"?
--
Joan
See my first-ever design here:
http://www.heritageshoppe.com/joan.jpg
"Stitch when you are young and poor, frame when you are old and rich."
- Elizabeth's (rctn'r) sister's MIL (Barbara Marr)
Dianne Lewandowski
or any other embroidery. There is SOOOO much thought that goes into the
process. Much of what is drawn doesn't necessarily work and must be
thought out again, reworked, frogged, start from scratch. Color choices
are a pain, as is picking just the right fiber to say what you want it
to say.
I just went through this process for an article in "Embroider Now". I
was relegated to a selection of specialty threads. I made a super
design. <grin> Well, three weeks later, tons of frogging, it was
scrapped. I had to start all over again. This time, I made it, because
I had enough experience with the threads. Still, there were many
choices on the second design that had to be made.
It's a very long process. I have this nifty design, and the stitching
is impeccable, but it's a total loss. Hours of work down the drain.
Dianne
Texasxsgal1
I agree with you about original designs. when I was living in Thailand, Idid
an orginal desing of one of the te,ple ruins. i use a plain, ordinary photo
(from one of those cheap point and shoot type cameras) After it was developed,
i made a graph. Then I staarted stitching, adjusting the graph and selecting
colorsas i went. It took me auite a fews months to get this finiished.
UnfortunatleyI lost it when I returned to the states andmost of my belongings
did not (long story and lost friend)
original means all (or at least most of designing is your own. what is a gray
area to me iswhen i take things from several different sources and arrange them
my way (this is mostly done in knitting, take aran patterns fromseveral sources
and put them together in afghan for example. I'm not sure that I would call
that original, but I did select the pattersn and the vision is my own. I just
did not invent or create the patternsthemsleves.
OK all y'all whaddya think? Is this orginal design or not?? and I will not be
offended by the answers, am just curios to see what all y'all think
kathy
san antonio
Dianne Lewandowski
In knitting, patterns are ages old. So, there's no originality there.
By your using them in different and unique ways, that becomes art
provided the end result is pleasing. I would think that in knitting
"shows", one would also have to come up with a new "shape" as well? It
would depend. An afghan is an afghan, but sweaters can be stylish.
Although I've seen some that I wonder why anyone would wear them. <grin>
The same can be said for embroidery. There's only so many ways to make
stitches, and with few exceptions, it's all been done before. What is
important is the way you combine them, the color and fabric choices. I
just did a block of Greek cross and it would make a beautiful background
for something like Brazilian, some stumpwork, or ribbon work. But only
because of the fabric choice. A different fabric, a different result.
A cyberfriend has been working on tile patterns. He's also done
designing for Kogin. Learning how to make good designs, even in
geometric patterns, is an art.
I'm so sorry to hear of your lost possessions. That is heartbreaking.
Dianne
Rhiannon
paper. Where does that fall in the originality continuum?
--
Brenda rhianno...@netscape.net
"Nothing...I got nothing for sale."
Joan Erickson
> The stitcher could have enlarged the photo and traced it onto graph
> paper. Where does that fall in the originality continuum?
I'd say closer to "original" because you'd only be starting with a
basic outline. The stitches/fibers/colors haven't been chosen for you
as in CG.
Olwynmary
(this is mostly done in knitting, take aran patterns fromseveral sources and
put them together in afghan for example. I'm not sure that I would call that
original>
I would. In fact, I do. As Dianne has mentioned, the actual pattern stitches
are age-old, it is in the fresh combination that the originality lies.
Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.
KDLark
charts myself. I'm a pretty fair artist, particuarly when it comes to reducing
or enlarging a photo by gridding it and drawing it square by square. If I used
my own photos or a relative's photos of something such as one of our pets
(plenty of those) I could work from that photo and produce something in colored
pencils or watercolors, which would hopefully reduce confetti stitches when the
photo was put through a computerized cross stitch graphing program (boy, that
sounds awkward!). I think this would produce a graph that would be completely
original, even if the computer program made it a simpler process than doing it
entirely with graph paper -- which I've done, but wasn't satisfied with. I
found selecting the colors to be the difficult part of those projects.
Thoughts?
Katrina L.
Hey, I'm excited! School has been called for tomorrow because of the
hurricanes, so I might get to stitch a little this week! Yes, I'm a school
teacher.
Dianne Lewandowski
> I find this discussion interesting, because I have been considering making some
> charts myself. I'm a pretty fair artist, particuarly when it comes to reducing
> or enlarging a photo by gridding it and drawing it square by square. If I used
> my own photos or a relative's photos of something such as one of our pets
> (plenty of those) I could work from that photo and produce something in colored
> pencils or watercolors, which would hopefully reduce confetti stitches when the
> photo was put through a computerized cross stitch graphing program (boy, that
> sounds awkward!). I think this would produce a graph that would be completely
> original, even if the computer program made it a simpler process than doing it
> entirely with graph paper -- which I've done, but wasn't satisfied with. I
> found selecting the colors to be the difficult part of those projects.
> Thoughts?
Norman Rockwell, and plenty of other artists - going way back centuries
- used mirrors and other devices to get their art. In fact, there's a
huge debate about artists (Renaissance, I think) who used mirror devices
to get such realistic detailing on their paintings.
What you are doing is similar, I would think.
What (in my mind) is important is the "pose" (composition) and your
choices of color and how you use them (blending for shading, etc).
For instance, Rockwell might use a photo and enlarge it (I forget the
name of the machine that does this) for a "model" of a child, but it's
what he did with it that made it art.
Go for it. And be sure to let us all see it when you're through!
Dianne
Rhiannon
were blowing up negatives not printed photos.
Dianne Lewandowski wrote:
> For instance, Rockwell might use a photo and enlarge it (I forget the
> name of the machine that does this) for a "model" of a child, but it's
> what he did with it that made it art.
--
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
>My opinion is worth little, but I'll offer it, anyway. :-)
our different point of views.
very old and most knitters have learnd, the `old ways, rules and
conventions`.the last 10 [plus minus] years have shown that many
innovative knitters have broken through the conventional `Dos and
Don`ts` and created extremely 100% original knitted works , that
resembele Nothing we ever saw before...
even a unique way....it becomes a unique article ,,,, but not
everything is art, it might be creative , original etc...
be intriguing , even annoying but still interesting .
>"shows", one would also have to come up with a new "shape" as well?
shape would be hard to make , after all our bodies haven`t changed
that much over the generations ,,,,[ excluding size changes we are all
going through] if you mean home articles ,,,,here the field is wide
open .
>stitches, and with few exceptions, it's all been done before.
>important is the way you combine them,
i think the originality in Embroidery is more in the way YOU USE it in
general , if you use your embroidery as a means to portray an idea ,
if you use your embroidery as a tool to tell / show something than it
is origibnal and innvative ,, if you use it only to show how well you
learned the Traditional stiches , forms and uses , i would call it
more technical knowledge.
>for something like Brazilian, some stumpwork, or ribbon work. But only
>because of the fabric choice. A different fabric, a different result.
through and also end up with a tottal `new` conception .
>A cyberfriend has been working on tile patterns. He's also done
>designing for Kogin. Learning how to make good designs, even in
>geometric patterns, is an art.
innovative work is the art part of it.
mirjam
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
if the photo was an original photo and the sticher worked out her /his
own colors and layout of the portarit it is ORIGINAL work . Nobody
would say anything hjad the sticher made her own sketch before
stiching... so eventually it will be considered ok ,,, the Problem is
with people who use photos/charts of the internet and using them as
their `own` work
mirjam
F.James Cripwell
KDLark (kdl...@aol.com) writes:
> I find this discussion interesting, because I have been considering making some
> charts myself. I'm a pretty fair artist, particuarly when it comes to reducing
> or enlarging a photo by gridding it and drawing it square by square. If I used
> my own photos or a relative's photos of something such as one of our pets
> (plenty of those) I could work from that photo and produce something in colored
> pencils or watercolors, which would hopefully reduce confetti stitches when the
> photo was put through a computerized cross stitch graphing program (boy, that
> sounds awkward!). I think this would produce a graph that would be completely
> original, even if the computer program made it a simpler process than doing it
> entirely with graph paper -- which I've done, but wasn't satisfied with. I
> found selecting the colors to be the difficult part of those projects.
> Thoughts?
>
> Katrina L.
I am not sure if these comments are going to help you or not. I
note you look on yourself as somewhat of an artist, and since I have no
artistic talent, I have learned not to try and do what you are suggesting.
In any process which uses a computer to produce a counted cross
stitch pattern, eventually you end up with one pixel per stitch. The
question I don't know the answer to, is something like, at what stage is it
best to go to one pixel per stitch? Do you use a computer program like
Corel Draw, or Adobe Photoshop, or whatever, or do you rely on programs
like Pattern Maker, or PC Soft. (I hope I have got the right ones. This
is before breakfast!!) My guess, and it is *only* a guess, is that if you
have artistic talent it is better to use to former, rather than the
latter. What I do know is that if you lack the talent, you are,
almost certainly, going to be in for a lot of frustration. HTH.
--
Jim Cripwell.
The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of one's life, any
time that is spent in stitching.
Adapted from a sign on The Cobb, Lyme Regis, England.
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
you are right you can use own photos , and work them into charts ,
even using a computer, but you should specify this when you sent it
to a competion ,,,,, in time , i hope soon, new rules will be made for
competions about this matters , just now it seems that there is a lot
of confusion about this matters.
Take the history of photography as example , first photographers were
considered artists and signed their photos , Than Everybody took
photos it became a Common thing ,, now it separates again into
`Artistic photography and Everybody' New technologies enable many
people to produce marvelous photos ,, thus there is a bit of confusion
about the deffinitions ...
mirjam
Ruthie
tourist-type photos into original artwork. For some examples of
Photoshop art, go see
http://www.worth1000.com/default.asp
and be prepared for long downloads.
I take a lot of digital pictures, and play with them in Photoshop
Elements (a smaller version of Photoshop); I think if I made them into
charts, they'd qualify as original.
I can paint in oils, sketch in inks & colored pencil, and work in
pastels - but watercolors are beyond me. I can't lay down a wash to save
my life.
Though using a computer saves me some labor as far as sketching &
coloring goes, it is also quite labor intensive on its own. Particularly
as my MacStitch uses a "standard" palette which does not include a whole
bunch of colors I usually wind up with, and I have to make a new palette
for each picture.
The real labor saver is with symbols. It changes colors to symbols for
me, so I am spared the laborious process of inking them in square by
square. Plus it gives me several options for symbols: I can use color
blocks, color blocks with symbols, just b&w symbols, or symbols printed
in color. (And x's in color, so it looks more like a finished piece -
but I don't use that one!)
More power to those that hand letter their symbols - but I'd rather let
the 'puter do it!
Ruthie in Colorado
alowan art earthlink dort net
Dawne Peterson
"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote..
> Dawne you amazed me with that ???
> on in the USA ? now adays ???[ shhhh no flaming please ,, you know !
> those scrap albuming trends shhhh....]
As it was a competition here, where I live, it would, if anything, be an
indicator of a trend going on in Canada. But I don't think it is, as I saw
nothing in the entries at the Calgary Stampede of this type.
I think it was more likely an instance of the criteria for entry in the
Regina fair being written in such a way that the picture fit them, given
that many of the categories were established years ago.
Dawne