OT: Irish Spelling of the Name Caitlin
Dianne Fullam
I seem to remember a posting awhile back on a name discussion thread.
Someone posted that we don't spell Caitlin the correct way in the US.
Since my daughter is considering this name for her first child (my first
grandchild), I'm hoping some kind soul can help me out.
Thanks.
Dianne
ahe...@dorsai.org
wrote:
I thought that the discussion was that we (US) don't pronounce the
name Caitlin the proper way (we say KATE-LIN, I think the original way
was more like kat-LEEN, like Kathleen without the TH). But I could be
wrong...
Alison
Agrnthumb
name.Her name is spelled the correct Irish way which I like. I have hated over
the years how many people have changed the spelling.
As Alison stated before,kat-LEEN is the proper Irish way.
Chris
Trish Brown
Yes. And I had *always* wanted the name, Matthew, for my son. Ever
since I was a young girl. So when he was born (hnf, I was still a
young girl!) I called him Matthew Francis Gerard (isn't that
beautiful?)
Suddenly, the Whole World began calling its son 'Mathew'!!! They were
coming out of the woodwork!!! Even today, Matthew is on the top ten
list of boys' names. I am really offended by this!
I wanted to call my daughter Brighid, however when it became apparent
that my married name would be Brown, I was forced to eschew (new work,
folks!) this gorgeous name in favour of Eleanor. Not sorry, but
suddenly there are Eleanors all over the place. Why is this!?!?! There
are three in her ballet class, excluding herself. There's one at
preschool. Foiled again!
I can't think of another girl's name I like all that much, but if I
had another boy, he'd be Joseph. I wonder if there' ll be a sudden
resurgence of that one?
Trish {|:OI}
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Dianne Lewandowski
(Scotland and France), so I chose Heather Joie (pronounced zhwah). My
family hated Heather. Said that's the stupidist name they ever heard.
That nobody in their right mind would name their child Heather.
The results of this should be obvious. It's a *very* common name, now.
Dianne
Louise Sugar
peopel insisted on calling him John
My next is Jessica....Jennifer was a very popular name that year and a
couple of years after and it seemed like everyone thru her school years
called her Jennifer rather than Jessica
next is David Michael (yes, you have to use both names, he prefers it that
way and so told his kindergarten teacher ;D)
Last, but certainly not by any stretch of the imagination least, is Kathryn
Margaret aka KatieKat or Kitten and people insist on calling her Kathy. She
gets up on her dignity and tells them My name is Kathryn Margaret Sugar.
Sends grownups into fits of giggles :)
Trish Brown wrote in message <3789bb5b....@news.newcastle.edu.au>...
hgrei...@fastransit.net.uk
kim....@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au (Trish Brown) wrote:
>
>Suddenly, the Whole World began calling its son 'Mathew'!!! They were
>coming out of the woodwork!!! Even today, Matthew is on the top ten
>list of boys' names. I am really offended by this!
>
>I wanted to call my daughter Brighid, however when it became apparent
>that my married name would be Brown, I was forced to eschew (new work,
>folks!) this gorgeous name in favour of Eleanor. Not sorry, but
>suddenly there are Eleanors all over the place. Why is this!?!?!
>
>Newcastle, NSW, Australia
(BG) It's because you have such good taste, Trish. You're the
leader of the pack. You are a trend setter. The world follows your
lead. (Can't think of any more appropriate cliches ;-) ).
Anne/NC
E-mail response not expected but
E-mail back delete the ".uk" at the end
Src3
Caitlín is the proper Irish spelling of the name. However, the proper Irish
pronunciation is "COTCHlynn". DH is from Ireland & I wanted this name for my
oldest DD before I realized how it was properly pronounced... too many
relatives would be calling her Cotchlynn! DH has a few cousins named
Cait--"cotch".
HTH a bit!
Siobhán, mom of Deirdre, Kieran & Máiréad!
MJB5019
accepted incorrect manner will enable her to go through life without having to
spell her name on a daily basis. Take it from a mother of a steven with a PH.
Mj in southern California
Big 3 sites for newbies
http://www.dnai.com/~kdyer/ online stitchers "bible"
http://www.crl.com/~dmcmahon/ where the abbreviations live
http://powerup.com.au/~sheal/freebie2.html tons of freebies
Jenn Tracy
My husband and I don't have an children yet but we know what we want to name
them. Bob is half Irish so here goes.
First girl : Hanna Clare Tracy - Hanna is the spelling of the winery we had
our wedding reception at, she will go by Hanna Clare
First boy: Seth Meehan Tracy - Meehan is Bob's dad's middle name and I just
love the name Seth
Bob had been threatening twins :-) so if that happens:
Girls:
Hanna Clare
Emma Grace - would go by both names too
Boys:
Seth John - John being his brother's name
Jordan Patrick - Patrick being his other brother's name
Jenn Tracy
jtr...@cableone.net
Trish Brown <kim....@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au> wrote in message
news:3789bb5b....@news.newcastle.edu.au...
> On 12 Jul 1999 06:46:00 GMT, agrn...@aol.com (Agrnthumb) wrote:
>
> >My eldest child is Caitlin. When we named her eighteen years ago nobody
had the
> >name.Her name is spelled the correct Irish way which I like. I have hated
over
> >the years how many people have changed the spelling.
> >As Alison stated before,kat-LEEN is the proper Irish way.
> >
> >Chris
>
> Yes. And I had *always* wanted the name, Matthew, for my son. Ever
> since I was a young girl. So when he was born (hnf, I was still a
> young girl!) I called him Matthew Francis Gerard (isn't that
> beautiful?)
>
> Suddenly, the Whole World began calling its son 'Mathew'!!! They were
> coming out of the woodwork!!! Even today, Matthew is on the top ten
> list of boys' names. I am really offended by this!
>
> I wanted to call my daughter Brighid, however when it became apparent
> that my married name would be Brown, I was forced to eschew (new work,
> folks!) this gorgeous name in favour of Eleanor. Not sorry, but
> suddenly there are Eleanors all over the place. Why is this!?!?! There
> are three in her ballet class, excluding herself. There's one at
> preschool. Foiled again!
>
> I can't think of another girl's name I like all that much, but if I
> had another boy, he'd be Joseph. I wonder if there' ll be a sudden
> resurgence of that one?
>
Stef
<kim....@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au> writes
>On 12 Jul 1999 06:46:00 GMT, agrn...@aol.com (Agrnthumb) wrote:
>
>>My eldest child is Caitlin. When we named her eighteen years ago nobody had the
>>name.Her name is spelled the correct Irish way which I like. I have hated over
>>the years how many people have changed the spelling.
>>As Alison stated before,kat-LEEN is the proper Irish way.
>>
>>Chris
>
>Yes. And I had *always* wanted the name, Matthew, for my son. Ever
>since I was a young girl. So when he was born (hnf, I was still a
>young girl!) I called him Matthew Francis Gerard (isn't that
>beautiful?)
>
fight is off for now ;)
I wanted to call the 2yo Princess Baby Perry "Calypso" after a character
in the Camomile Lawn by Mary Wesley. On TV she was played by the same
actress who was Elizabeth in P&P which only made me keener. Well vdbf
hated it but to be fair said that if I could find 10 people who knew and
loved us to say that they liked the name then I could have it. I found
.... 1, a fellow student of mine when I was doing my degree. Just
before our Finals with me 6 months pregnant she came rushing up to me to
withdraw her vote - it seems that she had agreed thinking that I would
never find anyone else and then got worried that I might :(
Poor Princess didn't get a name for 8 weeks and we had to decide on one
when we got threatening letters from the Registrar - in the UK a baby
has to be registered within 6 weeks. Our whole world joined in the
search for the right name. One day one of the Dinner Ladies in dd#2's
school called me to say that Emmie had said that her new baby sister was
soft and pink like a blossom and so we should call her "Blossom" - well
vdbf didn't like that either and in exasperation said "if it was up to
you she would probably have a name like "Rainbow Tempest Storm" - now
there's a thought - my eyes lit up .... but no. In the end we settled
on Jasmin (her sisters' idea) Caera (vdbf's). Next time around though i
could trawl the internet for votes for "Calypso"
if we had had a boy I wanted to call him Angwyn - well that fight is off
for now ;)
Names are so important though - my father has a 7yo and a 5yo. The 5yo
is called Emma Louise which is an amalgamation of mine and my sister's
middle names - we thought that was a pretty wierd thing to do and often
wonder if his partner is aware of this.
stef -Hounslow, England
WIP - Sunflower on Blue needlepoint from Albany Hill
- Barbara Baatz December Birthday Faerie for dd#2
Kathy Hoover
kim....@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au says...
> On 12 Jul 1999 06:46:00 GMT, agrn...@aol.com (Agrnthumb) wrote:
>
> >My eldest child is Caitlin. When we named her eighteen years ago nobody had the
> >name.Her name is spelled the correct Irish way which I like. I have hated over
> >the years how many people have changed the spelling.
> >As Alison stated before,kat-LEEN is the proper Irish way.
> >
> >Chris
>
> Yes. And I had *always* wanted the name, Matthew, for my son. Ever
> since I was a young girl. So when he was born (hnf, I was still a
> young girl!) I called him Matthew Francis Gerard (isn't that
> beautiful?)
>
> coming out of the woodwork!!! Even today, Matthew is on the top ten
> list of boys' names. I am really offended by this!
>
> I wanted to call my daughter Brighid, however when it became apparent
> that my married name would be Brown, I was forced to eschew (new work,
> folks!) this gorgeous name in favour of Eleanor. Not sorry, but
> suddenly there are Eleanors all over the place. Why is this!?!?! There
> are three in her ballet class, excluding herself. There's one at
> preschool. Foiled again!
>
> I can't think of another girl's name I like all that much, but if I
> had another boy, he'd be Joseph. I wonder if there' ll be a sudden
> resurgence of that one?
>
> Trish {|:OI}
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia
>
I finally got her 5 years ago. Kira tells people that before she was
in my tummy she was in my mind! How true...we thought it would be an
unusual (but easy to spell) name...the week she was born our neighbor
also had a baby girl, named Kiera! (pronounced the same) now she has
another child at her pre-school named Kira...there is even a barbidoll
friend named Kira! (the one we have is a soccer player with an uncanny
resemblence to Mia Hamm, even down to the pony tail!). This keeps up
and she may have to go by Rhiannon at school!
Kathy
(one of the masses of Kathys, or some variation thereof-who used to
go by her full name of Kathryn to avoid confusion--notice the *Irish*
spelling!)
Stef
<sr...@aol.com> writes
Siobhan - what is the correct spelling of the name that sounds like
Gronya - vdbf wanted that for the 2yo Princess Baby Perry but couldn't
find out how to spell it - thank goodness!
emerald
>
> Siobhan - what is the correct spelling of the name that sounds like
> Gronya - vdbf wanted that for the 2yo Princess Baby Perry but couldn't
> find out how to spell it - thank goodness!
>
> stef -Hounslow, England
> WIP - Sunflower on Blue needlepoint from Albany Hill
> - Barbara Baatz December Birthday Faerie for dd#2
Hi Stef,
The name that is pronounced "Gronya/ Grawnya" is spelled Grainne, with
an accent on the 'a'. I've heard it pronouced "Grayenne" on a recent TV
documentary (by Jodi Foster, no less!). One would think she (or the
producer) would have the sense to *ask* about the pronounciation if
she/they couldn't figure it out.
Off my soapbox now :-))
emerald
Dpesa
>Gronya - vdbf wanted that for the 2yo Princess Baby Perry but couldn't
>find out how to spell it - thank goodness!
>
>stef -Hounslow, England
>WIP - Sunflower on Blue needlepoint from Albany Hill
> - Barbara Baatz December Birthday Faerie for dd#
The name you're thinking of Stef is Gra/inne, the name of a famous female
pirate in the time of Elizabeth I and was usually anglicised to the name Grace.
Onomastics(the study of names and their history) is a bit of a hobby of mine.
My personal interest is in Irish names.
And for mj, it has been my experience, that no matter how you spell your name,
there will be people who can't spell it. If you go for the standard spelling,
you can look at them funny when they ask<G> or you can go for a non-standard
spelling - then everyone else will look at YOU funny :-) Can't win!
Deborah
known as Meadhbh ni Suileabhain in the SCA (I know about names you can't spell)
Deborah Pesa - New York City
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Rubrtrukr
>Gronya - vdbf wanted that for the 2yo Princess Baby Perry but couldn't
>find out how to spell it - thank goodness!
>
I'm not Siobhan, but it'd be Grainne, pronounced (as close as most
English-speaking mouths will get) "Grahnyuh." It's commonly Anglicized
"Grania," and sometimes changed to "Grace" (viz. the "pirate" Grace O'Malley).
Spanish and Russian speakers will know how to pronounce the T and D used in
Irish--they're the same in Spanish and Irish, and are the "soft" T and D of
Russian. "tch" is *not* an accurate transliteration. But it's as close as the
average English-speaking mouth will get.
~<|:o) Darla
So that's it. We're all going to die. -- Arthur P. Dent
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MQSsews
<<Since your grandchild will probably live in the US, perhaps spelling it in
the
accepted incorrect manner will enable her to go through life without having to
spell her name on a daily basis. Take it from a mother of a steven with a
PH.>>
Take it from someone who's lived through many years with an unusual (Gaelic)
spelling of a common first name...it's not so bad. It's rather nice having a
distinctively spelled name. Everyone thinks I'm just plain Mary but actually
I'm just plain Mairi.
Mairi
Burke, VA
Trish Brown
wrote:
>Siobhan - what is the correct spelling of the name that sounds like
>Gronya - vdbf wanted that for the 2yo Princess Baby Perry but couldn't
>find out how to spell it - thank goodness!
>
>stef -Hounslow, England
>WIP - Sunflower on Blue needlepoint from Albany Hill
> - Barbara Baatz December Birthday Faerie for dd#2
Oo! oo! I know! I know! It's 'Grainne', which I think is *gorgeous*!
And did you know that Enya's name, correctly spelt is 'Eithne'? Which
is also gorgeous, IMHO.
Now, all this has got me to wondering what the currently popular names
are in each country? Here in Oz (at least in Newcastle, where I live)
there's been a positive rash of Graces and Isabellas. There's also
been a rash of 'made up' names for boys. I've heard two lately which I
(personally) don't find attractive: 'Jye' and 'Trae'. The one that
really took the cake, though, was the birth announcement in the local
paper: someone called their poor little daughter 'Pattrisher'!!!!
Isn't that *awful*? Fancy being known as a spelling mistake for the
whole of your life!?
Marci Schwartz
>The name that is pronounced "Gronya/ Grawnya" is spelled Grainne, with
>an accent on the 'a'.
THANK YOU! I remember seeing this in a book I read (can't remember which right
now) and I had NO clue how to pronounce it... I think I settle for "Grainy" to
help me though the book. When I re-read it, I'll be sure to pronounce it
correctly!
Marci Schwartz
Brooklyn, New York (remove "pooky" from address to reply)
Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/8574/
"Anything less than two karats is a 'friendship' ring."
Src3
>Gronya - vdbf wanted that for the 2yo Princess Baby Perry but couldn't
>find out how to spell it - thank goodness!
>
>
Ah, Stef, Gráinne is a beautiful name!! :D My favorite SIL is Gráinne. It's
Irish for Grace, there's a famous pirate queen by the same name... Rhymes with
"on-ya".
Siobhán
Src3
>Isn't that *awful*? Fancy being known as a spelling mistake for the
>whole of your life!?
>
>
ROTFLMAO!!! That is hysterical. People sure do come up with some funky names.
I know people think my DH & our kids all have funky names, but we're teaching
the kids to be proud of their names, the history behind them, blah blah blah.
Ah well, to each his own. BTW, I love the name Eithne as well. In the SW of
Ireland it's said "Etna" which isn't as pretty as they say in Donegal (where DH
& Enya are from!). I told DH we should have had about 10 more kids so I could
have used up all the Irish names I liked on my kids!!
Siobhán
Mays
it really did happen. When I was in nursery school in Germany at age
2 the other kids all called me "Peepsie" because I had a tiny little
voice. I hated that... One day the Bishop came by for a visit and we
were all introduced to him. After being wrongly introduced as
"Peepsie", I reportedly climbed up on a table (did I mention that I
was very very short?), and announced in the loudest voice I could
manage "My name is not "Peepsie; my name is Ruth Garms." The Bishop
had the good grace not to laugh out loud, and after that, the other
kids called me by my right name too.
-
Ruth Mays
Disorganization is merely the sign of a very healthy
individual trying to do more in a shorter period of time
than those lazy, obsessively tidy types who can think of
nothing better to do than straighten objects in drawers
and stuff like that which only feeds their own egos and makes
them think they are better than those of us who are truly gifted.
Denise McNamara
Well, here it is from the horses mouth....
Cathleen/Kathleen is the anglicised form of the name and it is pronounced
as Cat/leen.
Caitlín is the Irish and is pronounced Cotch/leen (see the little accent over
the last "i", that is called a fada and it changes the i sound to an e sound)
Often the name would just be abbreviated to Cáit which is pronounced as Caw/tch,
Slán,
Denise
in (believe it or not) beautifully sunny Athlone,on the river Shannon, right slap
bang in the middle of Ireland
Pam Furry
book The Camomile Lawn...the character Calypso..and several of Wesley's
other books as well...still would like to have a camomile lawn...and I
would have voted Yes on the name!
Pam in So.California
Mary Fruth
Love your spiel on disorganization! I am not the obsessively
tidy type but can find what I need in my structured clutter. Got
a 43 on Oprah's perfectionism test. Would much rather try out
new fibers, techniques and fabrics or stitch something I love
than have my paperclips sorted by size.
Happy Creative Non obsessive Stitches,
Mary in MN
--
Trish Brown
Burke) wrote:
>As far as I'm concerned there is only one ground for divorce, and
>that is irreconcilable differences. There is only one
>irreconcilable difference in any marriage, and that is when one
>partner replaces the dunny roll so the paper hangs down against the
>wall. All else is negotiable. That one is unforgivable.
>
>There is one one ground for justifiable homicide. That is when a
>child is given a stupid name by its stupid, self-indulgent parents.
>Hanging is too quick and painless.
>
>Mike
Whew! Michael, my pet! You *are* in a pet tonight! I mean, I agree
with you, but strong words, my boy!
I have finally convinced DH to hang the dunny roll correctly, but we
are still workshopping the one about why G*d invented toilet seats...
I won't go any further along that path...
Yes, I agree about stupid names too. But it's interesting isn't t?
Should parents have the ultimate right over their offsprings' names,
or should we all have the right to an adult christening and call
ourselves what we choose? I'd probably have been Phillipa up until a
few years ago, but wouldn't change Patricia now for quids!
Carrie & Dean (or maybe just 1 of us!)
Louise Sugar wrote in message
<6Xli3.632$%w4.2...@iad-read.news.verio.net>...
>next is David Michael (yes, you have to use both names, he prefers it that
>way and so told his kindergarten teacher ;D)
Reminded me of our son, Peter David. He was always called Peter David, even
in kindergarten. One day he came home and asked if he could just be called
Peter, like Peter Vinkman of Ghostbusters. LOL After talking a bit I
realized what the problem was. I told him he was named Peter David for a
reason and I liked using both names. Well, he sighed and said, "Okay, I
guess I can be Pater David but it will be a lot of practice." They were
learning to write their names in class and he wanted to be Peter Gissiner
instead of Peter David Gissiner because it was less writing! LOLOLOLOLOL
Src3
>slap
>bang in the middle of Ireland
>
>
Denise,
I'm so jealous!! I loved Athlone the one time I was able to drag DH away from
relatives and do some sightseeing in that part of the country. Usually we get
as far as Galway before he heads back! Are there any needlework stores
anywhere around you? Do tell!!
Siobhán
Agrnthumb
Caitlin, my youngest Stephen. Thank heavens, my middle is Douglas which no one
questions.
Chris
Kathleen Mary
They are probably right : I looked in both of my naming books :
Dictionary of First Names by Alfred Kolatch
and a World of Baby Names by Teresa Norman
and Could not even find Caitlin. The Closest I came to was "Cailean"
Here is it's description : Cailean
Gaelic form of the Late Latin Columba (dove) St. Columba (521-97) was an
Irish missionary of great influence in both Ireland and Scotland. He founded
several monastery schools in Ireland before traveling with twelve companions
to the isle of Iona, the base from which he worked to convert the Scottish
inhabitants to Christianity. Cailean is Anglicized to Colin. (KAY-lin) P.
504
(another form is Calum, also Caley and Cally (KAL-um)
That is in the Scottish Chapter.
In the Welsh Chapter they refer to a Cainwen (KANE-wen) Old name from the
Welsh elements Cain( fair lovely, jewels, treasures) and gwen (white, fair,
blessed) "Blessed Fair One." Variations include Ceinwen, Kayne, and Keyne
(KANE-wen)
I checked in the American, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, and English Chapters and
nothing more !
I even checked under the letter "K"
The Dictionary just has each Letter and then a listing of, first, Male names
in Alphabetical order and then in another section, Female Names...
They go from "CAE" (Caesar) to "CAL" Cal or Calbert not even a hint of CAI -
under "K" there are some possibilities, including :Kai, Kailkane (both from
the Hawaiian for Sea)
I use these books to help me name my characters, I like my names to mean
something ... though, I do get a little courageous at times and invent a
name "Kalen" reminds me the name you are asking about. He is the broken
hearted lover of Mellisa, my chief Character and dies in Battle. His full
name is Sir Kalen Mennorey of Albemarle, quite handsome. I want it
pronounced KAY-lin !
One of the nicest names that Leon created is Craxton - or you believe HIS
version, Craxton, the Cat told him what his true name was when Craxton was
but a small kitten and new to our home ! IT is a great deal easier to name p
eople than countries. I am trying to name some countries, lately -God, help
me!
I do not think you have much to worry about naming your grandson, Caitlin,
after all, we Americans name our children Buffy and Tiffany now - a -days !
At least, he won't sound like a Cleaning cloth or a jewelry
store...<smile,grin, giggle>
Kathy Mary
Dianne Fullam <dfu...@albany.net> wrote in message
news:3788F834...@albany.net...
> Hi all,
>
> I seem to remember a posting awhile back on a name discussion thread.
> Someone posted that we don't spell Caitlin the correct way in the US.
> Since my daughter is considering this name for her first child (my first
> grandchild), I'm hoping some kind soul can help me out.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dianne
>
Computer Lab
Hoover) wrote:
>Kathy
>(one of the masses of Kathys, or some variation thereof-who used to
>go by her full name of Kathryn to avoid confusion--notice the *Irish*
>spelling!)
??? But in Irish, it would be Caitríona.
--
Matthew Takeda
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Mays
GMT,kim....@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au (Trish Brown) stitched with
finest floss on pure irish linen:
>Should parents have the ultimate right over their offsprings' names,
>or should we all have the right to an adult christening and call
>ourselves what we choose?
Some cultures do just that....there are Native American tribes where
the child is given a name at birth, and then is given an adult name
years later when his personality is better known. Makes sense to
me...
John & Liz Hampton
Trish Brown wrote:
> snip
>
> Yes. And I had *always* wanted the name, Matthew, for my son. Ever
> since I was a young girl.
> Trish {|:OI}
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia
My mom had always said that if she had a boy he would have been named James
Anthony. Since she had four girls, I thought it was touching that when my little
sister had her son (first grandbaby in the family) she named him James Anthony.
He even goes by James - except sometimes to his little sister who calls him "Mees"
occasionally. When she started talking, it was the best she could do with James.
:-)
Liz from Humbug
John & Liz Hampton
"Carrie & Dean (or maybe just 1 of us!)" wrote:snip They were
> learning to write their names in class and he wanted to be Peter Gissiner
> instead of Peter David Gissiner because it was less writing! LOLOLOLOLOL
When I was in First Grade (back when only rich people sent their kids to
pre-school & Kindergarten was for coloring and drawing) :-) it took me
sooooooooo long to write
E l i z a b e t h H a g e r on the top of my papers that the teacher asked my
mom if we could shorten it. :-) I was still slow enough that I ended up not
writing any name on my paper at all & was still the last one done. :-)
Liz from Humbug (who sometimes doesn't correct people when they call me
Elizabeth - family used to call me "Little Bit" since I was sooo small)
John & Liz Hampton
Mike Burke wrote:
> snip
>
> As far as I'm concerned there is only one ground for divorce, and
> that is irreconcilable differences. There is only one
> irreconcilable difference in any marriage, and that is when one
> partner replaces the dunny roll so the paper hangs down against the
> wall. All else is negotiable. That one is unforgivable.
> Mike
That's funny. You know, I actually thought of that before DH & I got
married. I decided that as long as we already agreed on important things
like how to hang the toilet paper that we could easily handle less
important subjects like children or religion. :-)) (just kidding,
actually, we had already talked about those things before we even got
serious about each other. :-) It's been almost 18 years now & we still
hang the TP the same way & neither of us cares where the other one squeezes
the toothpast tube. All you have to do is put the cap back on & re-squeeze
it from the bottom. :-)
Liz from Humbug
John & Liz Hampton
Src3 wrote:
> snip I told DH we should have had about 10 more kids so I could
> have used up all the Irish names I liked on my kids!!
>
> Siobhán
Maybe you could start collecting Irish Setters, Kerry Blue Terriers or Irish Water
Spaniels????? :-)
Liz from Humbug
Arliss Link
<snipped Trish's lovely little story and part of Mike's post>
> There is one one ground for justifiable homicide. That is when a
> child is given a stupid name by its stupid, self-indulgent parents.
> Hanging is too quick and painless.
>
> Mike
I can no longer resist.
I work in the Vital Records office in North Dakota, and we get all the
state's birth, death, marriage records for permanent filing (well, the
counties keep the original marriage records, but we get copies). A
couple of weeks ago, we received a birth certificate for a baby girl who
was named (I kid you not!) Y2K Philicia. Well, after we had received
the certificate, the parents apparently thought better of it and
requested that the name be changed - to Philicia Y2K. Not much better,
IMHO. I'd say these parents need to be tortured for a long time.
Arliss
Bismarck, ND
Dianne Fullam
I'm really impressed with all the knowledge out there. Thank you all for the
information and I will pass it on to my daughter.
Dianne
gyeo
Dpesa wrote:
>
> The name you're thinking of Stef is Gra/inne, the name of a famous female
> pirate in the time of Elizabeth I and was usually anglicised to the name Grace.
> Onomastics(the study of names and their history) is a bit of a hobby of mine.
> My personal interest is in Irish names.
> And for mj, it has been my experience, that no matter how you spell your name,
> there will be people who can't spell it. If you go for the standard spelling,
> you can look at them funny when they ask<G> or you can go for a non-standard
> spelling - then everyone else will look at YOU funny :-) Can't win!
>
> Deborah
> known as Meadhbh ni Suileabhain in the SCA (I know about names you can't spell)
> Deborah Pesa - New York City
>
>
>
You would think with first and last names containing only 3 letters,
there would be no problem with spelling my names. However,
invariably I get addressed as Gaye followed by a variety of Yo,
Yoe, Yeoh !!!
Gay Yeo (Yeo is an ancient West country English family name)
Maidenhead
Dpesa
>Hoover) wrote:
>
>>Kathy
>>(one of the masses of Kathys, or some variation thereof-who used to
>>go by her full name of Kathryn to avoid confusion--notice the *Irish*
>>spelling!)
>
>??? But in Irish, it would be Caitríona.
>
>--
>Matthew Takeda
And according to Irish Names by Donnchadh O/ Corra/in & Fidelma Maguire,
considered a pretty good source, the whole thing is a borrowing of the name
Catherine. It was first introduced into Ireland by the Normans and French and
was pretty popular by the 15th century. French Caterine and Cateline became
Caitri/ona and Caitili/n (Caitli/n)
Is this more than you ever wanted to know about the name? (I told you it was
part of my hobby<G>)
Deborah Pesa - New York City
Src3
>Water
>Spaniels????? :-)
LOL... I've been thinking about the Irish Setters!! Right now older DD is
obsessed with giving her Barbies Irish names. Hopefully I've totally corrupted
her and this will continue when she's married (to a Roman Catholic Irishman, of
course, after obtaining her medical degree, etc.) and has kids of her own!
LOL!
Siobhán
Trish Brown
<snip>
>Hopefully I've totally corrupted
>her and this will continue when she's married (to a Roman Catholic Irishman, of
>course, after obtaining her medical degree, etc.) and has kids of her own!
>LOL!
>
>Siobhán
Siobhan!
Would you like my Mum's snail mail: seems you and she have a *lot* in
common! Have you been encouraging your daughter to join the convent as
well???
John & Liz Hampton
Trish Brown wrote:
> snip Would you like my Mum's snail mail: seems you and she have a *lot* in
> common! Have you been encouraging your daughter to join the convent as
> well???
>
> Trish {|:OI}
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia
I always liked the part in "Cheaper By the Dozen" where Dad would pull out the
brochures of convents with 12 foot walls whenever the older girls started acting up
(like wanting to get their hair "bobbed" or something similarly drastic). :-)
Liz from Humbug
Maureenpas
I agree on both issues. We're an "over the top" family on the paper issue. On
the names, I confess my children are Kathleen Marie (Katie) and James Vincent
(Jim). I think that expectant parents often don't realize these names are for
life, not just for baby. 2 Cases in point: My childhood friend - Kelly Green.
Also my sister wanted to name her child "Stacia" (from a gravestone).
Fortunately, she settled for Stacey. I explained to her that girls like to get
things with their name printed on them. Stacia wouldnt' happen. Also no one
would ever prounounce it, or spell it correctly first try. I know. People
always misspell my name.
Maureen (not reenie or mosie)
Rubrtrukr
> There is only one
>irreconcilable difference in any marriage, and that is when one
>partner replaces the dunny roll so the paper hangs down against the
>wall. All else is negotiable. That one is unforgivable.
But that's the way it's *supposed* to hang!!!!
Off with his head!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~<|:o) Darla
So that's it. We're all going to die. -- Arthur P. Dent
remove clothes to respond
R. Daniel Paddock
<snip>
> My childhood friend - Kelly Green.
I went to college with a Kelly Green, but I can do you one better: she had a
brother, Hunter Green! I couldn't make that up. I had another college
friend, Christine Berry, whose birthday was fortunately Dec. 28. I say
fortunately, because had she been born on Christmas Day, her parents fully
intended to name her Holly.
My husband's last name is Paddock, so I joke with him that we should name our
first girl Lily. Or, when I'm feeling particularly malicious, Maxie.
Sarah in Philadelphia
Src3
>brother, Hunter Green!
ROTFLMAO! However, I'm realizing that my good friend has a sister named
Kelly... and their maiden name was Greene. Hmmm...
Siobhan
Src3
>common! Have you been encouraging your daughter to join the convent as
>well???
Trish, LOL!!! No, no daughters for the convent... but my son will be the first
American Pope. My DH and our combined 9 siblings all scream at the mention of
this... but I would love it. Of course, said son is now sitting on the stairs,
discussing body parts as only 5 year olds can. Sigh. :::
Siobhán :)
arosebyan...@smellsas.sweet
>Maureenpas wrote:
><snip>
>> My childhood friend - Kelly Green.
><snip>
>
>I went to college with a Kelly Green, but I can do you one better:
I made my husband's grandmother laugh when I told her not to expect
any great grandchildren by the name of "Harrison", aka Harry. Nothing
like the teacher asking if there is a " harry bulback" in the class!;)
LOL! Talk about fodder for the nickname mill. As for names, I
dodged a "Honey" and an "Angel" as my first name (hey, I was darn
cute, what can I say;)). It would have been a full time job trying to
explain those names nowadays.
Kim Bulback:)
InStitches
types of horror stories when it came to baby names....i.e., the couple whose
last name was Gumm named their daugther Bubble....now I tell you, they must
have just been dying for a stripper in the family with that one...and her
other favorite was the Cande family (pronounced candy) who named their
daughter Cotton....makes you wonder... I would have to slap my parents if
they had given me a silly name.
However, I do tease my sister whose last name is Good that she aught to have
had a son named Noah....but I am just teasing (and luckily she knew it and
laughed with me as we thought up other silly names just for fun) and would
have had to done her bodily injury had she actually done it.
--
InStitches
"Count twice, stitch once."
WIP: Sweet Dreams (L&L)
Hardanger (Ornaments, Bookmarks & Table Runner)
X/USA/H3+/X4/0/1R/XRH/OHSQF/:-D~/S/G/W+/D/M+/B/b/R+/S+/K-/E+/?/C+/S.
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Mike Burke <mburke.s...@pcug.org.au> wrote in message
news:37901d34...@newshost.pcug.org.au...
> "R. Daniel Paddock" <dpad...@pil.net> wrote:
>
> >Maureenpas wrote:
> ><snip>
> >> My childhood friend - Kelly Green.
> ><snip>
> >
> >I went to college with a Kelly Green, but I can do you one better: she
had a
> >brother, Hunter Green! I couldn't make that up. I had another college
> >friend, Christine Berry, whose birthday was fortunately Dec. 28. I say
> >fortunately, because had she been born on Christmas Day, her parents
fully
> >intended to name her Holly.
>
> I imagine they'd have gotten around to British Racing Green
> eventually. :-)
>
> Some people just nver learn, do they? Poor kids have to either
> fight their way through life or cringe in a corner because of the
> selfish whims of their doting, dopey parents. Kids have enough
> handicaps in life without being even further hobbled by twee names.
> >
> >My husband's last name is Paddock, so I joke with him that we should name
our
> >first girl Lily. Or, when I'm feeling particularly malicious, Maxie.
>
> Can't do much about your last name, but out here in Oz, the
> nicknames would be colourful and plentiful. :-)
>
> Note: I hope that I have not offended too many people with these
> recent posts of mine. I would hope that this is an enlightened
> bunch of people. For those who are offended, however, because their
> conscience is twinging, I can only say that it serves you right. I
> hope that your poor unfortunate children never forgive you. As ye
> sow, so shall ye reap.
>
> Mike
Melissa C.
>a
>>brother, Hunter Green!
>
I can top everyone. In my small town there is a girl named Marijuana Pepsi
Jackson. She's in her mid 20s and amazingly enough, in and out of jail. <grin>
Her name is frequently in the newspaper. I swear I AM NOT making this up! LOL
DH works with her normal sister, Kim.
Melissa C.
Currently Stitching MLI's Earthdancer, TW's Noah's Ark, and a lot of other fun
stuff!
Currently Finishing: Nothing!
Aramanth Dawe
<snip>
>Names are so important though - my father has a 7yo and a 5yo. The 5yo
>is called Emma Louise which is an amalgamation of mine and my sister's
>middle names - we thought that was a pretty wierd thing to do and often
>wonder if his partner is aware of this.
>stef -Hounslow, England
Better than being named for your father's mistress, as I was!
When I was 5, my mother found some old paperwork with the mistress'
name on it. It was dated before their marriage and she asked him
about it. He admitted to 'an old girlfriend' who had my birth name
and that he'd always liked it. That was why he'd wanted to call his
first daughter by that name.
When I was 18 and the divorce proceedings were happening, it was
finally admitted that he'd had this mistress from before their
marriage until some time after I was born. Fortunately, by then I'd
been using Aramanth socially for some time and was very comfortable
with it. In fact, very few of my friends called me anything else by
then. Eventually I changed it legally, and in the state in which I
was born they automatically reissued the birth certificate in the new
name.
Now I proudly say "My name is Aramanth - see, it's on my birth
certificate." Very few people even notice that the date is 25 years
after I was born!
Aramanth
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Trish Brown
wrote:
>
>You would think with first and last names containing only 3 letters,
>there would be no problem with spelling my names. However,
>invariably I get addressed as Gaye followed by a variety of Yo,
>Yoe, Yeoh !!!
>
>Gay Yeo (Yeo is an ancient West country English family name)
>Maidenhead
>
>
Oo, Gay! I have to ask: are you a good and stout yeoperson?
E. Coleen George
Bicentennial year for the USA -- for you on the other side of the pond). My
father was very patriotic. So, while I was pregnant, we teased him that we were
going to name the baby Bicentennial George if it was a girl. And that we would
call her Bi George for short. Well, of course, the first thing he asked us
after her birth was what did we name her. I couldn't really tell if he was
happy or relieved when we told him her name was Valerie.
Love in Stitches,
Coleen
InStitches wrote:
> > >I went to college with a Kelly Green, but I can do you one better: she
> had a
Lynn Eremondi
>
> Dpesa wrote:
>
> >
> > The name you're thinking of Stef is Gra/inne, the name of a famous female
> > pirate in the time of Elizabeth I and was usually anglicised to the name Grace.
> > Onomastics(the study of names and their history) is a bit of a hobby of mine.
> > My personal interest is in Irish names.
> > And for mj, it has been my experience, that no matter how you spell your name,
> > there will be people who can't spell it. If you go for the standard spelling,
> > you can look at them funny when they ask<G> or you can go for a non-standard
> > spelling - then everyone else will look at YOU funny :-) Can't win!
> >
> > Deborah
> > known as Meadhbh ni Suileabhain in the SCA (I know about names you can't spell)
> >
> >
> >
>
> there would be no problem with spelling my names. However,
> invariably I get addressed as Gaye followed by a variety of Yo,
> Yoe, Yeoh !!!
>
> Gay Yeo (Yeo is an ancient West country English family name)
> Maidenhead
My sister's married name is Rose. You would be suprised how many people
ask for it to be spelled, even when she says it's the same as the
flower!
Lynn (Momof5)
Src3
naming the baby after her (the grandma is Terry). Then give the middle name as
Aki. Terry Aki Rice. LOL. My mother, being a school nurse, always tells me
the name horror stories she runs into. One of the best was a girl whose first
name was Queennigeria. I don't think it tops Marijuana Pepsi, though.
Siobhán
Louise Sugar
amazed at the ways people spell it
Schuger, shuger, sheager....it drives me nuts sometimes....kinda like my
maiden name Kaufmann :D
Lynn Eremondi wrote in message <378DEEE8...@home.com>...
Jmgreenfld
>
>Trish {|:OI}
>Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Uh oh, Trish - be careful! There are at least two other of us "Yeo"-persons
that read rctn - Cindy Alexander and I are both descended from the same "Yeo"
forefather!
Stout? Hmmm....let's not go there! How about hale and hearty? LOL!
-JoyceG in WA
SpecEdMEH
heard all of the baby names.
The worst had to be a little girl named Fallopia! The mother had no idea what
the word referred to; she "just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded
pretty!" I can see that poor little girl getting teased for all of her days!
Mary H.
Boulder City, NV
----If you treat an individual ... as if he were what he ought to be and could
be, he will become what he ought to be and could be. Goethe
Michelle
girl (we were sure we were having a boy) I wanted to name her after my DMIL
whose first name is Barbara. I didn't want to use it as a first name so I
came up with Hannah Barbara. DH said no way.
We have friends who named their baby boy Justin Case, I had to share :>)
Michelle C. (please remove .anti-spam when replying)
Src3 wrote in message <19990715103804...@ng-fx1.aol.com>...
Stef
names...BTW love yours Siobhan, it's one of my favs. If I marry in
Ireland (I have to discuss this with my boyfriend over there first
*laugh*) and have children there I want to name my daughter Niamh, it's
such a beautiful name. I love the names Naoise (boy) and Grainne (girl)
as well. There are so many of them and they are all lovely and have
such a wonderful history to them.
Stefanie
Src3 wrote:
>
> >someone called their poor little daughter 'Pattrisher'!!!!
> >Isn't that *awful*? Fancy being known as a spelling mistake for the
> >whole of your life!?
> >
> >
>
> ROTFLMAO!!! That is hysterical. People sure do come up with some funky names.
> I know people think my DH & our kids all have funky names, but we're teaching
> the kids to be proud of their names, the history behind them, blah blah blah.
> Ah well, to each his own. BTW, I love the name Eithne as well. In the SW of
> Ireland it's said "Etna" which isn't as pretty as they say in Donegal (where DH
> & Enya are from!). I told DH we should have had about 10 more kids so I could
gyeo
Trish Brown wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:14:56 +0100, gyeo <gy...@nortelnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >You would think with first and last names containing only 3 letters,
> >there would be no problem with spelling my names. However,
> >invariably I get addressed as Gaye followed by a variety of Yo,
> >Yoe, Yeoh !!!
> >
> >Gay Yeo (Yeo is an ancient West country English family name)
> >Maidenhead
> >
> >
> Oo, Gay! I have to ask: are you a good and stout yeoperson?
>
> Trish {|:OI}
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Hold on there!! I dont mind the 'good' bit, but don't care so
much for 'stout' !!
BTW, last Spring Needlework fair in London, Karen Dudzinski
of Textured Treasures came over from Canada to exhibit, and
we agreed to meet face to face for the first time. When I
introduced myself, Karen started to giggle - she had been
expecting to meet a small oriental person (Yeo also being a
chinese surname)!! I'm 5 foot nine inches tall and definitely
Anglo Saxon ! :-)
Gay
Maidenhead
E. Coleen George
they were ready to play their first gig. Then one of the members realized they
hadn't decided on a name for the band, but thought they needed one "Just in
Case" somebody asks -- so they decided to call themselves "Just In Case". But
most people think the band is named Justin Case and there is always some young
lady asking which one is Justin.
Love in Stitches,
Coleen
Michelle wrote:
> <snip>
Stef
she knew (I am from Texas) told her to name me "Magnolia", she said it
would be a good name for a southern little girl...thank god my mother
chose Stefanie.
Stef
Agrnthumb
when I was a social worker, a client named her child Female, but pronaced it as
you would famale. Why parents do those things I'll never know.
Chris
Pam Furry
is Brown & I married Furry and kept the Brown as well. I don't use it
much, but it's on checks, voters reg. & legal stuff so occasionally it
get's noticed and
a few laughs as well...but when I have to use it over the phone I always
have to say "yes, as in 'brown , furry animal". For some reason everyone
want's to pronounce "furry" as "fury".
I also get VERY funny snail mail...literally dozens of hilarious
variations...for some reason I saved them & think they'll make a great
collage (some day!) Especially the AAA card I received once that
changed it to FUNG (tho dh's in the same envelope was spelled
correctly!) The worst part is that I never bothered to get a new one and
had to explain all this to the emergency roadside operator who thought
this was PIP funny...which it was!
Pam in Ca. who has since gotten a new AAA card!.
Src3
>names...BTW love yours Siobhan, it's one of my favs. If I marry in
>Ireland (I have to discuss this with my boyfriend over there first
>*laugh*) and have children there I want to name my daughter Niamh
Stephanie,
I am consumed with jealousy. Our "grand plan" is to move to Ireland when DH
has made his fortune--he wants to open a sports bar. So far I just see credit
card bills coming in, so the bags aren't packed yet! Thanks for the compliment
on my name! :) My good friend has a daughter (whose father is also from
Ireland, like my DH) named Niamh. I LOVE that name. Also like Sorcha,
Aisling, Caoimhe, etc.
Siobhán, the obsessed...
Src3
... Me too! I used to do collections for a credit card company, and we'd
always get a customer whose last name was Fuchs. Except the ch was like a ck
sound. I'd always try to be super polite, say "Uh, umm... Mr., uh..." and then
I'd get interrupted with a yell, "It's FUC*S!!!! Say it!!". You gotta love
it.
Siobhán
SSherburne
>name Caitlin the proper way (we say KATE-LIN,
Exactly. Caitlin is rather the Irish spelling
for Cathleen. Hey, my cat's name is
Niamh, and it is pronounced Neeve.
Hooked on IRISH phonics <VBG>,
sue
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Stef
<ma...@ozemail.com.au> writes
>Stef <St...@fibratec.demon.co.uk> wrote:
><snip>
>>Names are so important though - my father has a 7yo and a 5yo. The 5yo
>>is called Emma Louise which is an amalgamation of mine and my sister's
>>middle names - we thought that was a pretty wierd thing to do and often
>>wonder if his partner is aware of this.
>
>
>>stef -Hounslow, England
>
>Better than being named for your father's mistress, as I was!
>
Wow! - in a diluted sense this is what happened to dd#2 - her real name
is Ruth Emma - I hated the name from the start but her father (long
departed, never missed) insisted. He couldn't even say it properly -
always giving it an 'F' at the end. I left him when dd#2 was 3 weeks
old but in the meantime had found out that Ruth was the name of his
first true love :( this was not the reason for the break-up BTW. I fled
to a Refuge and myself and the women there had a fine old time picking
out another name for her but in the end I decided just to use her middle
name although *everyone*, including school calls her Emmie. The only
time her real name is used is for official things like the doctor and
then I generally miss it being called.
stef -Hounslow, England
WIP - Sunflower on Blue needlepoint from Albany Hill
- Barbara Baatz December Birthday Faerie for dd#2
Sarah Keuper
Our name is pronounced Cooper, spelled Keuper.
I once asked someone who's name was spelled Cooper how it was spelled, just
for fun. When I told him why I asked, and how I spelled mine, he said "Oh,
so *you're* the reason the dry cleaners keep asking me how I spell my name!"
-Sarah
Trish Brown
>My friend's last name is Rice. When she was pregnant, her mother suggested
>naming the baby after her (the grandma is Terry). Then give the middle name as
>Aki. Terry Aki Rice. LOL. My mother, being a school nurse, always tells me
>the name horror stories she runs into. One of the best was a girl whose first
>name was Queennigeria. I don't think it tops Marijuana Pepsi, though.
>
>Siobhán
I think I've posted this before, but can't remember... when I taught
school, there was a family of kids from Western Samoa whose names were
Pepsi, Sprite, Fanta, Pepper and - (Drat! Can't remember the next
one!). All girls. Their baby brother, Coca, was due to start school
the following year, but I never met him, having changed schools in the
holidays.
Gill Murray
Boy, was I teased.
Apparently my aunt joined the WAAF ( British women's Air Force) during WW 2.
When they barked out her name, during basic training or whatever,, she
promptly and obediently answered " Edith Mary May Stripp, sir". As you can
imagine, the sharp response she received was " Not here you can't!"
Gillian Murray, previously Knoblett, and born a Stripp!
R. Daniel Paddock <dpad...@pil.net> wrote in message
news:378CF8FF...@pil.net...
> Maureenpas wrote:
> <snip>
> > My childhood friend - Kelly Green.
> <snip>
>
> I went to college with a Kelly Green, but I can do you one better: she
had a
> brother, Hunter Green! I couldn't make that up. I had another college
> friend, Christine Berry, whose birthday was fortunately Dec. 28. I say
> fortunately, because had she been born on Christmas Day, her parents fully
> intended to name her Holly.
>
> My husband's last name is Paddock, so I joke with him that we should name
our
> first girl Lily. Or, when I'm feeling particularly malicious, Maxie.
>
> Sarah in Philadelphia
Rebuilder
>gyeo wrote:
>
>My sister's married name is Rose. You would be suprised how many
people
>ask for it to be spelled, even when she says it's the same as the
>flower!
>
>Lynn (Momof5)
Naw, I wouldn't be surprised. My maiden name is Pagan.
Now everybody (nearly) has seen this word at church: pagan.
And they know how to pronounce it.
But when you CAPITALIZE it, they are at a total loss. Can't
pronounce it. Can't spell it. They even add extra letters, as
in Pagano.
Now I'm Mrs. Charlton. But nobody can say that either. They
all have to add an "es" -- Charleston. And no amount of talking
will convince them that I know how to pronounce my name and
they don't!! Some of them have even decided that Charlton
Heston's name is "Charleston" Heston. Go figure.
Sherry Pagan (no "o") Bittel (rhymes with "little") Charlton (no "es")
Rebuilder
<28CA380B7D6C9489.8470EE13...@lp.airnews.net>...
>Oh it was nice to see this!!! I am moving to Dublin soon and love
Irish
>names...BTW love yours Siobhan, it's one of my favs. If I marry in
>Ireland (I have to discuss this with my boyfriend over there first
it's
>such a beautiful name. I love the names Naoise (boy) and Grainne
(girl)
>as well. There are so many of them and they are all lovely and have
>such a wonderful history to them.
>
>Stefanie
>
also "Siobhan"?
Sherry C.
ConnieD
until you see that his surname was Carte!!!!
Used to live in Blandford Forum, Dorset and there was a memorial for a
family called Bastard but it was pronounced Bastaard LOL ConnieD. who will
confess to going out with someone called Terry Pratt, and at the same time
my divorced Mother was going out with someone called Tom Burke. Just imagine
if we had married, We would have been a family of Pratts and Burkes ;0)
Chris Braun
I once knew a woman named Joy Loving -- a student in a class I taught.
I think she got the "Loving" part by marriage.
Chris
Src3
>also "Siobhan"?
Niamh is a name from Irish folklore; it's said "Neeve". Long e; the mh is a v
sound in Irish. Siobhán is said "Shavon", rhymes with Yvonne; is Irish for
just about everything that starts with J, as well as Susan (go figure!).
Again, the bh in Irish is a v sound!
I get two different versions of how to say Naoise from my
Irish-born-but-not-fluent-in-Gaelic husband, so someone else hopefully can help
us in that!!
Siobhán
Src3
>school, there was a family of kids from Western Samoa whose names were
>Pepsi, Sprite, Fanta, Pepper and - (Drat! Can't remember the next
>one!). All girls. Their baby brother, Coca,
That is hysterical! ROFLMAO!!!!! I gotta write that one down. I knew a woman
who named her kids after towns in Texas. She had a Courtney (?!), Austin,
Houston & a Waco. That was before the whole Waco thing happened, but even then
I thought it was horrible. Only people familiar with the town then would have
known (IMHO) that it was said Way-co and not "Wacko"!! And she used to rib me
about my kids having Irish names--when they're Irish citizens!! Agh.
Siobhán
Suzynov
>what
>the word referred to; she "just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded
>pretty!" I can see that poor little girl getting teased for all of her days!
>
A doctor I worked with said that when he was a young resident he delivered
twins. The mom named them "Si-phyllis" and "Gonora". Think about it. <g>
Suzy
LEPFAN1
>what
>the word referred to; she "just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded
>pretty!" I can see that poor little girl getting teased for all of her days!
I have a friend that is a paramedic in California. She was delivering a baby in
the back of the ambulance and said something to her partner about the
"placenta". Guess what the woman named her daughter?
Lori
BTW: My mother has a friend named Rose. Her married name is Rose Bud and her
maiden name was Rose Busch. What are the odds?
Mthrnatrs1
discussion but I finally waded through the EIGHTY FOUR posts and wanted to add
yet another one. (I am in an odd mood this am).
Anyway.... being from a good irish family with the surname O'Sullivan we were
named Kerry Kathleen, Timothy Shannon, Erinne Rebecca, Amy Patricia, Megan Beth
and Patrick Joseph. Every time I told my name I got "My aren't we a wee bit
irish?"
and so when I married I married a German!!!
My dd was supposed to be Caitlin Elizabeth but dh talked me into naming her
Lisa Marie and now I get asked if I am an Elvis fan to which I reply I like his
stuff but not enough to name my kids after his.
Had she been a boy I wanted Matthew Seamus but hubby didn't like Matthew so we
agreed on Mark which didn't seem to go with Seamus so was changed to Mark
James. Glad that she was a girl by this point.
Then I got pregnant again and had the worst time deciding on a girls name. I
again wanted Caitlyn Elizabeth and again he talked me out of it. So we agreed
to Harmony Beth Sanger and my mother threw fits. She said " the child will end
up being called HORMONEY" and I said no I don't think so more likely called
Harmony Singer!
Anyway we ended up with a boy who will tell you flat out his name is "Darren
Joseph D J Sanger" and he wants to spell the whole thing out although he can
barely spell Darren at this point. (age 4 not yet in Pre K)
Well I know that was long but I needed to put in my two cents worth.
BTW I love seeing all the Irish names and spellings here!!!!
Kerry
mommy, wife, new to these boards and 3rd shift worker
WIP: When I am an old woman---- only french knots in one set of colors left to
go then I get to frame it!!!!!!!!!
John & Liz Hampton
Mike Burke wrote:snip
Can't do much about your last name, but out here in Oz, the
> nicknames would be colourful and plentiful. :-)
>
> Note: I hope that I have not offended too many people with these
> recent posts of mine. I would hope that this is an enlightened
> bunch of people. For those who are offended, however, because their
> conscience is twinging, I can only say that it serves you right. I
> hope that your poor unfortunate children never forgive you. As ye
> sow, so shall ye reap.
>
> Mike
Does anyone remember the Lucy episode where Lucy keeps changing her mind about
the baby's name & tells Ricky she wants the name to be unique and euphorious?
Ricky's reply is: "O.K! Unique if it's a girl and Euphorious if it's a boy!!!!"
:-)))
Liz from Humbug
Kathy Hoover
> On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:47:29 -0400, kho...@mindspring.com (Kathy
> Hoover) wrote:
>
> >Kathy
> >(one of the masses of Kathys, or some variation thereof-who used to
> >go by her full name of Kathryn to avoid confusion--notice the *Irish*
> >spelling!)
>
> ??? But in Irish, it would be Caitríona.
>
> --
> Matthew Takeda
> Spamblock in place: remove NOSPAM to reply
>
>
Far be it for me to tell the Irish how to spell in their own language!
However, my mother was told on good authority that 'Kathryn' was the
IRISH AMERICAN way to spell it...rather than the English Catherine
which she didn't like the look of (guess it was the "C"). Still a very
common name no matter how you spell it!
Kathy (who couldn't roll the "r" in Kathryn properly anyway)
emerald
>
> Niamh is a name from Irish folklore; it's said "Neeve". Long e; the mh is a v
> sound in Irish. Siobhán is said "Shavon", rhymes with Yvonne; is Irish for
> just about everything that starts with J, as well as Susan (go figure!).
> Again, the bh in Irish is a v sound!
>
> I get two different versions of how to say Naoise from my
> Irish-born-but-not-fluent-in-Gaelic husband, so someone else hopefully can help
> us in that!!
>
> Siobhán
Hi Siobhan,
growing up in Dublin, the girls pronounced Naoise as "Neesha", much to
the horror of my DOD who spoke Irish from a very early age and thought
it should be pronounced "Noeesha" with a short "o" running into the
"ee". He also pronounced "Caoimhe" as "Kwoeeva" (the same sort of
sound), not Kweeva.
BTW how do you get your computer to make a sine fada??
emerald (whose real name is Eimear and who gets all sorts of interesting
variations on that one!)
ejk...@hotmail.com
SSherburne
>> have used up all the Irish names I liked >>on my kids!!
>> Siobhán
>
>Water >Spaniels????? :-)
>Liz from Humbug
My new kitten's name is Niamh (pronounced Neeve). it is great fun telling
people how it is spelled!
Hooked on IRISH phonics,
Sue (who loves the name Siobhan for
little girls <G>)
Guy & Susan Keeley
> Deborah
> known as Meadhbh ni Suileabhain
Ah, Meadhbh is one of my favorites!
I also like Bebhinn (Hi Siobhan, remember me?), Nuala, and Aine.
If you're into names, check out this site:
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/NOTES/note139/1998/top1000in98.html
It's the the top 1000 names given to boys and girls born in the US last year;
culled from the applications for Social Security Numbers. I don't think anyone
needs to worry about giving a child an unusual name. There are some real corkers
out there!
Susan K. in MA
Src3
>sound), not Kweeva.
>
>BTW how do you get your computer to make a sine fada??
>
>
That's neat! What part of Ireland was he from? I know in Donegal, Caoimhe is
said as "Keevy". But I know that how things are pronounced in Irish vary
greatly.
I make the á by holding down the Alt key and hitting 0225. I can do the é by
doing the Alt and 0233. Mess around with Alt and the little keys and you'll
get a bunch of different symbols!
Siobhán, who loves the name Eimear!!
emerald
>
> That's neat! What part of Ireland was he from? I know in Donegal, Caoimhe is
> said as "Keevy". But I know that how things are pronounced in Irish vary
> greatly.
>
> I make the á by holding down the Alt key and hitting 0225. I can do the é by
> doing the Alt and 0233. Mess around with Alt and the little keys and you'll
> get a bunch of different symbols!
I've saved that information, thanks Siobhán :-))
My Dad is from Clare and speaks Irish with a Munster dialect, with
flashes of Connaught thrown in for good measure!!
I learned Munster dialect too, but I haven't spoken it much for about
twenty years and the "use it or lose it" principle applies :-((
emerald/Eimear (who, at the dentist/doctor's office always knows it's
her turn by the pregnant pause before anyone attempts to say her name!!)
hgrei...@fastransit.net.uk
>
>BTW: My mother has a friend named Rose. Her married name is Rose Bud and her
>maiden name was Rose Busch. What are the odds?
There was a secretary in the office where my DF worked back in the
fifties whose name was Rose. They were chatting one day and he
asked her what her maiden name was. It was Bush. Aren't parents
awful?
Anne/NC
E-mail response not expected but
E-mail back delete the ".uk" at the end
Maureenpas
Mary nun, very opinionated), who taught in a racially diverse area. She had a
student whos name was "Female" pronounced Femallie. Another student's name was
Netha Letez. She prounounced it "'neth the lights" and said "that's probably
where you came from".
KMC528
Thankfully, she changed her mind when she married Mr. Hamm.
I worked for an employee benefits firm about 20 years ago, I handled the
employee censuses, and one company listed Holiday Marble. Yes, she was born
around Christmas.
Once upon a time, I was married to a man whose last name was pronounced Cool.
We didn't either of us want children, and got his mom to stop nagging us about
it by threatening to name them Joseph and Beatrice. As in Joe Cool and Be
Cool.
But nothing can top the client our law firm had a while back, Braulita
Turczynski. A year or two later, someone with that name was arrested for
prostitution, and we didn't even have to see the picture to be sure it was her.
Whenever you name your child something TOTALLY unique, you guarantee yourself
that if they ever do anything you don't want the world to know about, there
will be no question that it's your little one. At least if you've named him
John Smith, you can claim it's one of the other 10 zillion John Smiths who was
arrested.
Karen
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Mermaid of the Pearls
wedding sampler for Tee & Nate
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>her turn by the pregnant pause before anyone attempts to say her name!!)
Eimear, LOL!! When my 5 year old twins were doing swim lessons this year & had
"roll call", I stepped up at the lifeguard's pause and said, "The kids with the
names you can't pronounce are mine!". Then I introduced them. Then their
written evaluations were messed up--Kieran received all the stuff about how
"she is good in water, etc.", and Máiréad got "he needs help in getting head
wet", etc. LOL.
Siobhán
Src3
didn't get the laughing about Kelly Greene (her sister's name)... said no, it
couldn't have been her Kelly, since her brother isn't named Hunter. I didn't
explain the "get it, Kelly... Green...". Ah well.
Siobhán
Deloris Booker
On 16 Jul 1999, Suzynov wrote:
> >The worst had to be a little girl named Fallopia! The mother had no idea
> >what
> >the word referred to; she "just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded
> >pretty!" I can see that poor little girl getting teased for all of her days!
> >
>
> A doctor I worked with said that when he was a young resident he delivered
> twins. The mom named them "Si-phyllis" and "Gonora". Think about it. <g>
>
> Suzy
>
>
My mother is a twin, and my grandparents displayed a deplorable lack of
imagination in naming them. My mother is Franzisca Ferdinanda Helena
Adolphina and my aunt is Ferdinanda Franzisca Adolphina Helena (long since
shortened to Fran and Ferdi, respectively). There was one curious result
to this non-sense many years later. About 20 years ago, my aunt applied
for and duely received a pass-port for a trip to Europe. About 3 years
later my mother applied for a pass-port for an overseas vacation and
received a VERY frosty letter from the government advising her that as she
already HAD a passport, it was a felony for her to apply for a second one
while the first was still valid. Eventually it was all sorted out, but
the sorting involved sworn declarations, copies of marriage lines and SIN
cards, etc. It was complicated by the fact that they had been born
overseas, had no birth certificates, and had not been included when their
father applied for citizenship for himself and his son (the kid that
mattered - girls didn't have to worry about THAT as they would naturally
just take their husbands citizenship upon marriage, dontchaknow?)
People really should think about what they call their kids - a "funny"
nickname can be out-grown or out-distanced but 'real' names can be a
millstone around the neck.
deloris (surname "booker", profession librarian)
news.sisqtel.net
Mike Burke <mburke.s...@pcug.org.au> wrote in article
<3790409d...@newshost.pcug.org.au>...
> arosebyan...@smellsas.sweet wrote:
> >><snip>
> >>
> My father-in-law was William Williamson. :-)
>
My late husband named his first son Tommy Tycus. The poor boy probably
grew past 6' by age 12 (he stopped at 6' 4"). I shudder to think what he
had to tolerate in school.
Also, I went to school with a Ruby Looslie, who was married to Gerald
Balls.
--
Ruth in Happy Camp
emerald
>
> Eimear, LOL!! When my 5 year old twins were doing swim lessons this year & had
> "roll call", I stepped up at the lifeguard's pause and said, "The kids with the
> names you can't pronounce are mine!". Then I introduced them. Then their
> written evaluations were messed up--Kieran received all the stuff about how
> "she is good in water, etc.", and Máiréad got "he needs help in getting head
> wet", etc. LOL.
>
> Siobhán
Exactly!! Most people when they see my name written down think that is
the name "ELmer" mis-spelled and seem mightily surprised when I turn out
to be female.
When I was a kid I wanted to be called by my second name which is
Josephine. Of course I wanted it to be "Jo" after my heroine Jo March in
"Little Women"
emerald/Eimear
Src3
>Josephine. Of course I wanted it to be "Jo" after my heroine Jo March in
>"Little Women"
Eimear,
I remember my dear father asking if I wanted to be called by my middle name, to
avoid the embarrassing "Sigh-oh-bahan? Is he here??!" comments on the 1st day
of school. My middle name is Estelle (now it's my maiden name, Rooney). I
just looked at him and said "ESTELLE????". Oh well. :)
Siobhán
ELarson775
>to
>avoid the embarrassing "Sigh-oh-bahan?
My third daughter's name is Devon Siobhan -- and most people don't know whether
she's a boy or a girl when they read her name! When she showed up for Space
Camp this summer, she had been assigned a bunk in the boys' dorm.
The most common pronunciation of her name is Dee-vohn Sigh-ob-han.
Ah well -- *she* likes it and doesn't get tired of explaining the correct
pronunciation, and that's what's important!
- Elizabeth
Aramanth Dawe
<snip>
>emerald/Eimear (who, at the dentist/doctor's office always knows it's
>her turn by the pregnant pause before anyone attempts to say her name!!)
I know it's my turn by that same pause, usually followed by "Mrs Dawe"
when they decide not to even try!
Aramanth
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