<sigh> I hate scroll frames
Teri Rasmussen George
Well, I'm starting a new project and I guess it's been so long since I owned a
scroll frame that I forgot how much I dislike them. So, I went and bought a
frame today and I'm already finding out why I don't like them:
- not enough tension to begin with
- the tension loosens over time
- it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
- the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
- I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
I guess I should have known better but I didn't see any good hoops out there --
plus hoops can crush your stitches if the pattern is larger than the hoop.
You can't win... ): ):
Teri
Ellen
I bought something a few months ago to try called an "ABLE Stretcher" They
come in several sizes and each one is adjustable to several different sizes
in itself. The largest set is 17". I've used it a few times and like it
much better than the scroll frames .... no screws <G> I ordered the large
and the small one .. now I can do anything from about 3 x 3 up to 17 x 17.
I believe I ordered them from the "Better Homes and Gardens" catalogue.
No affiliation, just a pleased stitcher.
--
Ellen ...
Elliot Lake, Ontario
"A Jewel in the Wilderness"
Teri Rasmussen George <snow...@wwdc.com> wrote in article
<5qe5ue$r...@van1s03.cyberion.com>...
Marina Salume
*So, I went and bought a
*frame today and I'm already finding out why I don't like them:
*- not enough tension to begin with
*- the tension loosens over time
*- it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
*- the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
*- I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
I bought some wooden knobs at Michaels' that might work instead
of the wing nuts on your frame, that would solve two of your
problems :-) I have noticed that the tension doesn't stay real
tight but I don't mind tightening it every so often. But maybe you
prefer to work on fabric that is REALLY tight--you might prefer
using the kind of frames that needlepointers use, just stretcher
bars and you fasten the fabric with tacks around the edge? If you
get a floor frame, it holds the frame for you so you don't have
to wrap your hand around it when stitching.
--marina
ju...@gritton.org
In article <5qe5ue$r...@van1s03.cyberion.com>,
snow...@wwdc.com (Teri Rasmussen George) wrote:
>
> Well, I'm starting a new project and I guess it's been so long since I owned a
> frame today and I'm already finding out why I don't like them:
>
>
--
> plus hoops can crush your stitches if the pattern is larger than the hoop.
>
> You can't win... ): ):
>
> Teri
Sure you can ;) Stitch in hand! I've tried hoops, frames, Q-snaps,
stretchers; nothing feels quite as right as just holding it in my hand.
Sure, it wrinkles the fabric, but that's a lot more fixable than crushing
stitches or leaving hoop marks.
To each her own, I suppose ;)
Julie
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Lula
Hi Teri--
You can win with a scroll frame or at least compromise. For me, there's
no better way to watch my work progress while stitching with it all
stretched out nicely on the frame.
I barely have to block my needlepoint when done. The small piece I just
finished doesn't even need blocking.
First--what tension are you referring too? The fabric loosening up or
the frame itself getting loose?
I always baste my canvas or fabric evenly in a straight line on the
scroll bar's web tape. I pin a couple of pins in while basting to keep
the material from sliding so there are not dips in the fabric or
canvas--this creates a perfectly, smooth, flat surface tension when the
scrolls are tightened.
You can save your fingers using a plier or vice grip to tighten the nuts
and bolts if needed. I always have a handy vice grip around.
You can always use tape or tape some foam (some type of foam tape?) over
the wing nuts to help keep the scratching down. That's the part I don't
like because they do stick out.
Have you tried a scroll frame with a table or floor stand? That would
make it easier stitching a larger project.
As you discovered, hoops have a little more against them for large
projects-- then there are those stretcher frames made for needlework or
use artist's canvas stretching bars---where you use non rusting tacks to
stretch your fabric. I know many people who like this type of frame but
I find the tension of the fabric loosens up on these often.
Now I'm curious, what are you stitching for your new project?
---
Lula from Wooly Dreams Design
http://home.earthlink.net/~woolydream
AChrist787
Go to the hardware store and buy 4 lock washers. They go between the wing
nut and the regular washer. Also if you will e-mail me, I have something
that will work to tighten the wing nuts easily.
Anne
Anne Christopherson
"Old roses are full of instructions on how to live right."
MMNewberry
Teri wrote:
I went and bought a frame today and I'm already finding out why I don't
like them:
- not enough tension to begin with
- the tension loosens over time
- it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
- the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
- I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
A lap (or floor, if you prefer) stand would solve most of your problems.
The scroll frame would be held for you; you could work with one hand in
front and one in back, so you wouldn't have to touch your cloth or grip
anything; you could flip the frame in the stand to access the back when
finishing off threads; and you can even get wooden gizmos which replace
the wing nuts and are easy to hold and turn with enough leverage to really
tighten the frame to get and keep good tension. (My shop-owner's husband
makes scroll frames and stands and supplies the gizmos as an option -- I
would be happy to send some to you if you wish. Can't remember what they
cost, but it would be easy to find out.)
MMNew...@aol.com
Sigrid
Did you try Q-snaps. They won't crush your stitches like a hoop would.
woj...@omd.si.edu
I hate scroll frames, too, for the very same reasons. Have you tried
Q-snaps? PVC pipes with snap down pieces that hold fabric taut on all
four sides. Easy to use. Easy to set up and break down for travelling
purposes. All sorts of sizes (I have 'em all). No hoop marks or
creases. Especially great for linen, in my experience. You can get
q-snap adapters for lap and floor stands (depending on the brand of
stand). Just a friendly tip from someone who happened upon a q-snap one
day and hasn't looked back since. Good luck!
Beth :)
In article <5qe5ue$r...@van1s03.cyberion.com>,
snow...@wwdc.com (Teri Rasmussen George) wrote:
>
> Well, I'm starting a new project and I guess it's been so long since I owned a
> scroll frame that I forgot how much I dislike them. So, I went and bought a
> frame today and I'm already finding out why I don't like them:
>
> - not enough tension to begin with
> - the tension loosens over time
> - it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
> - the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
> - I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
>
> I guess I should have known better but I didn't see any good hoops out there
--
> plus hoops can crush your stitches if the pattern is larger than the hoop.
>
> You can't win... ): ):
>
> Teri
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Teri Rasmussen George
In article <8689346...@dejanews.com>, ju...@gritton.org says...
>
>In article <5qe5ue$r...@van1s03.cyberion.com>,
> snow...@wwdc.com (Teri Rasmussen George) wrote:
>>
>> Well, I'm starting a new project and I guess it's been so long since I owned
a
>> scroll frame that I forgot how much I dislike them.
>Sure you can ;) Stitch in hand! I've tried hoops, frames, Q-snaps,
>stretchers; nothing feels quite as right as just holding it in my hand.
>Sure, it wrinkles the fabric, but that's a lot more fixable than crushing
>stitches or leaving hoop marks.
>
>To each her own, I suppose ;)
<grin> Actually, I have tried just holding the fabric in my hand, Julie. I
guess there just doesn't seem to be enough support there for me. You know --
the fabric just sorta wraps around your hand and gets caught up in the thread.
):
A number of nice folks have written me (or posted and I just haven't seen them
yet) telling me how they've made improvements on scroll frames. Guess I'll sit
down with Chris and see what we can do to make it better.
Teri
LadyDoc
That Funky Chick wrote:
> Hmm...the only scroll frames I've tried yet are those Tomorrow's Treasures
> ones, that have the wooden knobs instead of wing nuts. And when I put the
> fabric on there, I crank it down pretty tight, so the tension works okay
> for me (YMMV, o'course). I hold it in the crook of my elbow so I don't get
> cramps in my hand from hanging on to it.
>
> If you want to see pictures of their scroll frames, they have a web site at
> http://www.tomtr.com/ . I've found that I love these things; keeps all the
> excess fabric out of my way, and keeps me from pulling my stitches too
> tight. But everyone likes different things, so if you don't agree I won't
> take it personally. :)
>
> -Bertha
> ber...@polly.mhn.org
>
I have always liked scroll frames- and I also use q-snaps; it mostly
depends on the size, shape etc of a piece and whether I want it to be
really portable. Among the scroll frames Lokscrolls give me the tightest
tension on linen, but I get very good tension in my split dowel frame as
well, especially for any aida projects, and I find the tension in my TT
scrolls to be about equal to the split dowels.
I also just this weekend got the good sense to have holes drilled in the
side/extender bars of ALL my scroll frames, regardless of manufacturer
(yes, I have an assorted collection). Now I can use all my frames on my
Tomorrow's Treasures lap frame which I really love.
Now all I need is that floor frame for the really big pieces (the 24"
scroll frames fit in the lap frame just fine, but at 24" the whole thing
does not fit within the confines of my favorite chair- and could any of
us move from our "nest" and still be happy?), and I'll be set forever- or
until someone invents something newer, better, etc.
We all find our own way eventually.
Teresa/LadyDoc
That Funky Chick
On 14 Jul 1997 21:33:02 GMT, snow...@wwdc.com (Teri Rasmussen George)
wrote:
>Well, I'm starting a new project and I guess it's been so long since I owned a
>scroll frame that I forgot how much I dislike them. So, I went and bought a
>frame today and I'm already finding out why I don't like them:
>
>- not enough tension to begin with
>- the tension loosens over time
>- it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
>- the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
>- I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
Hmm...the only scroll frames I've tried yet are those Tomorrow's Treasures
ones, that have the wooden knobs instead of wing nuts. And when I put the
fabric on there, I crank it down pretty tight, so the tension works okay
for me (YMMV, o'course). I hold it in the crook of my elbow so I don't get
cramps in my hand from hanging on to it.
If you want to see pictures of their scroll frames, they have a web site at
http://www.tomtr.com/ . I've found that I love these things; keeps all the
excess fabric out of my way, and keeps me from pulling my stitches too
tight. But everyone likes different things, so if you don't agree I won't
take it personally. :)
-Bertha
ber...@polly.mhn.org
BLAM! Make peculiar patterns in MY wheat field, will ya?!
ju...@gritton.org
In article <01bc90f4$924a63e0$034422cf@default>,
"Sigrid" <sch...@who.net> wrote:
>
> Did you try Q-snaps. They won't crush your stitches like a hoop would.
I beg to differ. The one project I used Q-snaps on they completely
flattened an entire row of stitches. Maybe I did something wrong, I
don't know, but when I took them off I was amazed and dismayed. After
washing the stitches somewhat returned to normal, but I can still see the
place that got crushed. Of course no one else can, but isn't that the
way all mistakes go ;)
Julie
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Mark W. Jones
Check out the new "scroll" frame made by Kevin Scott on the Rainbow Connection
homepage at http://www.gate.net/~victorei/. There are no screws, etc. The
fabric is held in place by plastic clips. I haven't tried it yet but think I
will order one. There are also some beautiful designs to enjoy.
Barb
KarenM
Teri Rasmussen George wrote:
>
> Well, I'm starting a new project and I guess it's been so long since I owned a
> scroll frame that I forgot how much I dislike them. So, I went and bought a
> frame today and I'm already finding out why I don't like them:
>
> - not enough tension to begin with
> - the tension loosens over time
> - it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
> - the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
> - I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
>
> plus hoops can crush your stitches if the pattern is larger than the hoop.
>
>
My husband made me my own scroll frames with a drill and saw. He bought
round (like a ball) wood knobs at Home Depot, bore out a hole and put
these screw type things inside(don't know the name right now), and now I
use them with my scroll frame. Nothing catches on them, and I don't
need lock washers. They seem to hold tight. I take apart my scroll
frame every day so I can travel to work with it.
If you want specific instructions, email me.
Karen MacDonald
Holly Blankenship
woj...@omd.si.edu wrote:
>
> I hate scroll frames, too, for the very same reasons. Have you tried
> Q-snaps? PVC pipes with snap down pieces that hold fabric taut on all
> four sides. Easy to use. Easy to set up and break down for travelling
> purposes. All sorts of sizes (I have 'em all). No hoop marks or
> creases. Especially great for linen, in my experience. You can get
> q-snap adapters for lap and floor stands (depending on the brand of
> stand). Just a friendly tip from someone who happened upon a q-snap one
> day and hasn't looked back since. Good luck!
>
> Beth :)
approve) one of the possible concerns is crushed stitches. When I got
my first set the shop owner showed me how she used them by putting a
small piece of fabric between the two plastic parts. I am know thinking
that I might actually start using small pieces of foam instead of
fabric.
I get great tension, very little wrinkling and good results. The only
draw back I have found (verrry little) is that they are not all that
easy to carry when traveling.
holly
KPaules531
>- not enough tension to begin with
>- the tension loosens over time
>- it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
>- the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
>- I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
(1) If you have the correct length rods, you will get good tension.
(2) And it doesn't with any other device, just readjust.
(3) Buy Tomorrow's Treasures brand instead of the less expensive
versions. They have wooden knobs instead of wingnuts.
(4) Tomorrow's Treasures come in several different sizes. I'm sure you
could one that would feel comfortable.
(5) See number 3 again.
Not a stockholder - just a avid fan of the products.
JoAnn
Froggy4U
Karen,
I would be very interested to see the directions for your scroll
frame. It sounds like what I am looking for.
Thanks in Advance,
Sonja
Teri Rasmussen George
In article <33CAF4...@earthlink.net>, Lula says...
>First--what tension are you referring too? The fabric loosening up or
>the frame itself getting loose?
I'm talking about the fabric loosening up.
>I always baste my canvas or fabric evenly in a straight line on the
>scroll bar's web tape. I pin a couple of pins in while basting to keep
>the material from sliding so there are not dips in the fabric or
>canvas--this creates a perfectly, smooth, flat surface tension when the
>scrolls are tightened.
I don't know what 'web tape' is. The scroll bars available here are 100% wood.
>You can save your fingers using a plier or vice grip to tighten the nuts
>and bolts if needed. I always have a handy vice grip around.
<sigh> You're the second person that's told me this, Lula. Seems like such a
lot of trouble just to close a 'hoop'.
>Have you tried a scroll frame with a table or floor stand? That would
>make it easier stitching a larger project.
No, I haven't tried that. This project is a small one, anyhow. So, I haven't
really needed a table or floor stand.
I guess that one of my problems is that I just like the idea of being able to
'handle' the project while I'm working on it. I don't feel comfortable just
handing a needle through it, I prefer to hold it close -- makes it easier to
see what I'm doing, too. (:
>Now I'm curious, what are you stitching for your new project?
I have a series of the annual Vanessa-Ann Holidays In Cross-Stitch books, this
book is from 1995. (I think I have books all the way back to about 1986, or
so. I can't check right now because most of them are still in Michigan.) I'm
doing a project from that. It's an outline of a heart shaped from pansies,
which I'm doing on 18-count Aida.
I'm going to edge it with fabric when I'm finished and make it into a pillow
for my grandmother. Her birthday is September 4th.
Teri
GlitchySan
For a new design of scroll frames go to http://www.gate.net/~victorei/ and
check out the link to Kevin's Scroll Frames. I've been there. They look
interesting. Maybe.....
Jeannettie
"Excuse me, why does God need a starship?" James T. Kirk
Lana Holden
In article <19970716151...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
glitc...@aol.com (GlitchySan) wrote:
> For a new design of scroll frames go to http://www.gate.net/~victorei/ and
> check out the link to Kevin's Scroll Frames. I've been there. They look
> interesting. Maybe.....
>
>
>
> Jeannettie
I ordered practically a whole set of these. They came today. The design
is wonderful, and I received excellent service from Mr. Scott. I'll
report after I've had a chance to use them for a while.
--Lana Holden
la...@math.brown.edu
Martha Beth Lewis
In <5qe5ue$r...@van1s03.cyberion.com> snow...@wwdc.com (Teri Rasmussen
George) writes:
>
So, I went and bought a
>frame today and I'm already finding out why I don't like them:
>
>- not enough tension to begin with
Your fabric may not be mounted exactly square. This will cause
it to "pull" on a slight bias and be "baggy."
See my home page: http://www.serve.com/marbeth/scroll_bars.html
for info on how to mount
>- the tension loosens over time
May be same problem as above. Also, may be caused by trying
to stitch with the sewing method. If you mount your fabric
in anything, you must use the stab method.
>- it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
Try some knobs. Sometimes other manufacturers make nuts/knobs
for others' scroll frames. Another option is to wrap the
nuts with waxed dental floss or rubberband on some cotton or
somethign to "soften" the metal against your hands.
Tomorrow's Treasures is my favorite brand of scroll frame.
Not only beautiful to look at and beautifully made, but also
the knobs are easy to turn.
>- the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
Try moutning your work with the roller rods vertical instead
of horizontal. Then you can rest the separator rods (where
the knobs are) in your lap and rest the roller rod (one of
them) against an arm. No holding frame required.
>- I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
See above.
>
>I guess I should have known better but I didn't see any good hoops out
there --
>plus hoops can crush your stitches if the pattern is larger than the
hoop.
Try a QSnap. And make sure the QSnap/hoop is larger than the
image size. As you say, you can squash or even break sts.
Another option is to stitch in hand. Martha Beth
Teri Rasmussen George
In article <5qj5c7$m...@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, Martha Beth Lewis says...
>>- the tension loosens over time
> May be same problem as above. Also, may be caused by trying
> to stitch with the sewing method. If you mount your fabric
> in anything, you must use the stab method.
Mmmm. If by 'sewing method' you mean kind of using the tip of the needle to
lift the fibers before pushing through, I'm not doing that. What I do is
basically 'stab' the needle through the hole in the aida cloth.
>>- the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
> Try moutning your work with the roller rods vertical instead
> of horizontal.
That's probably what I should have done...
>>I guess I should have known better but I didn't see any good hoops out
>>there -- plus hoops can crush your stitches if the pattern is larger than the
>>hoop.
>
> Try a QSnap. And make sure the QSnap/hoop is larger than the
> image size. As you say, you can squash or even break sts.
I do have a Qsnap, but I find that it does a really poor job of maintaining
fabric tension -- even worse than the scroll frame.
Thanks for the suggestions, Martha Beth...
Teri
John J. Waller
Don't feel bad, Teri. I hate them, too. I know I'm weird, but I like
hoops.
beth
--
Old sailors never die,
they just get a little dinghy!
Tara
In article <33CC0B...@fuse.net>, Holly Blankenship <hol...@fuse.net> wrote:
>I get great tension, very little wrinkling and good results. The only
>draw back I have found (verrry little) is that they are not all that
>easy to carry when traveling.
Different strokes for different folks I guess....
I love the portability of Q-snaps. Since I can take the frame apart it gets
smaller and fits into my tote bag easier than the scroll frames I use on other
projects. I switch between Q-snaps, scroll frames and stretcher bars
depending on the project. Items I want to keep *clean* (like stuff with silk)
go on scroll frames (as well as projects I know will "take awhile").
Needlepoint is put on the stretcher bars. Uncomplicated, smallish
cross-stitch items go on the Q-snaps (so I can also easily drag them to the
Tangle, the EGA or lunch break at work).
Tara R. Scholtz University of Maryland at College Park
ta...@wam.umd.edu or ts...@umail.umd.edu McKeldin Library
=====================================================
If training has not made a horse more beautiful, nobler in carriage,
more attentive in his behavior, revealing pleasure in his own
accomplishment...then he has not truly been schooled in dressage.
-Col. Handler
Lula
Teri Rasmussen George wrote:
>
> I don't know what 'web tape' is. The scroll bars available here are 100% wood.
Scroll bars usually come with a piece of fabric webbing attached/stapled
to the bars where you baste/attach your fabric or canvas too.
Are you using the split wood dowel bars then?
---
> >You can save your fingers using a plier or vice grip to tighten the nuts
> >and bolts if needed. I always have a handy vice grip around.
>
> <sigh> You're the second person that's told me this, Lula. Seems like such a
> lot of trouble just to close a 'hoop'.
---
I just happen to have the vice grip around my studio---actually my
scroll frames come with a handy little block of wood with a slit cut
made into it -- to tighten the wing nuts with--just slip it over the
wings and tighten like a key.
The fellow that makes all the frames I have is retiring and shutting
down his business---he's almost 80.
The frames are all solid oak and well made--I've been using them since
1985 and they're as good as new.
In case anyone is interested--you can make inquiries at the following-
Pandora Products
3162 Beauchamp Dr
Memphis, TN 38118
(901) 363-3817
Kiminy
On 16 Jul 1997 06:30:41 GMT, kpaul...@aol.com (KPaules531) wrote:
>In article <5qe5ue$r...@van1s03.cyberion.com>, snow...@wwdc.com (Teri
>Rasmussen George) writes:
>
>>- not enough tension to begin with
>>- the tension loosens over time
>>- it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
>>- the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
>>- I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
>
>(1) If you have the correct length rods, you will get good tension.
>(2) And it doesn't with any other device, just readjust.
>(3) Buy Tomorrow's Treasures brand instead of the less expensive
>versions. They have wooden knobs instead of wingnuts.
Tomorrow's Treasures aren't the only ones with wooden knobs. Almost
every decent brand I've seen (which excepts the ones sold at Wal-Mart)
has wooden knobs, including the Bill's Frames and the EZ-Scrolls that
I use.
>(4) Tomorrow's Treasures come in several different sizes. I'm sure you
>could one that would feel comfortable.
But the size of the scroll frame is dictated in large part by the size
of the project. I also find it hard to hold a scroll frame (of any
size) and stitch at the same time. However, having a stand helps
immensely, and it makes the stitching go faster too.
Kimberly Weiss
kim...@couriernet.infi.net
Wendy Weber
kpaul...@aol.com (KPaules531) wrote:
>In article <5qe5ue$r...@van1s03.cyberion.com>, snow...@wwdc.com (Teri
>Rasmussen George) writes:
>>- not enough tension to begin with
>>- the tension loosens over time
>>- it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
>>- the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
>>- I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
>(1) If you have the correct length rods, you will get good tension.
>(2) And it doesn't with any other device, just readjust.
>(3) Buy Tomorrow's Treasures brand instead of the less expensive
>versions. They have wooden knobs instead of wingnuts.
>(4) Tomorrow's Treasures come in several different sizes. I'm sure you
>could one that would feel comfortable.
>(5) See number 3 again.
And may I add:
1) Michael's carries Tommorow's Treasures scroll frames
2) They had a 40% off one item coupon in Sunday's Paper
3) My next-door-to-work Michaels was out of the size that I needed
(18 inch)
4) They did have the 18-inchers in the EZ Stitch Stitcher's delight
set (one set knobs, two sets side bars, seven pairs of scroll rods)
for $64.99
5) With a coupon, that comes to 38.99
6) I now own the Stitchers Delight set, in addition to the one set of
18 inch bars that The Storyteller is sewn to
7) The Visa is smokin!
8) They stock extra knobs at my Michael's too.
9) I saved lots of money to spend on the charts that I MUST HAVE NOW!
(See more under -- what did you buy heading)
Sheryl Karges
Where would one find these q-snaps? It seems to me that
no matter what type of hoop I buy they always seem to leave
some dirt behind on my work, even if I wash them first. I would
love to find a new way to hold my work. Thanks.
Sheryl
woj...@omd.si.edu wrote:
: I hate scroll frames, too, for the very same reasons. Have you tried
: Q-snaps? PVC pipes with snap down pieces that hold fabric taut on all
: four sides. Easy to use. Easy to set up and break down for travelling
: purposes. All sorts of sizes (I have 'em all). No hoop marks or
: creases. Especially great for linen, in my experience. You can get
: q-snap adapters for lap and floor stands (depending on the brand of
: stand). Just a friendly tip from someone who happened upon a q-snap one
: day and hasn't looked back since. Good luck!
: Beth :)
: In article <5qe5ue$r...@van1s03.cyberion.com>,
: snow...@wwdc.com (Teri Rasmussen George) wrote:
: >
: > Well, I'm starting a new project and I guess it's been so long since I owned a
: > scroll frame that I forgot how much I dislike them. So, I went and bought a
: > frame today and I'm already finding out why I don't like them:
: >
: > - not enough tension to begin with
: > - the tension loosens over time
: > - it hurts my fingers to tighten the wing nuts
: > - the frame is too large to wrap my hand around easily, and
: > - I keep getting scratched by the wing nuts
: >
: > I guess I should have known better but I didn't see any good hoops out there
: --
: > plus hoops can crush your stitches if the pattern is larger than the hoop.
: >
: > You can't win... ): ):
: >
: > Teri
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Dragyn
Wow...was I glad to see this!.....I just got a scroll frame to do my round
robin pieces and thought I wasn't doing it right or something.....I love to
have my fabric tight as a drum and it just doesn't happen with a scroll
frame.......I will perservere tho (sigh) cos I'd hate to get hoop marks on
someone elses work
Nevina
ju...@gritton.org wrote in article <8689346...@dejanews.com>...
Ali866
Was desperate enough yesterday to buy a cheap scroll frame at WalMart. It
looks just like the one Teri described. I put it together, and although it
looks clumsy, I have had no trouble getting tension on the material, nor
have I scratched myself with the wing-nuts (although I do prefer the
wooden knobs). Possibly my stiching technique is different from Teri's and
this is why I have no problem with it...
Ali (who started a new project yesterday! Probably destined to become a
UFO...)
R. Blaine Sauve-Miller
I love them and althought I didn't have to spend a lot of money I feel
that I purchased a quality scroll...the only thing is that it doesn't
look real pretty like the other ones on the market. I have the other
scrolls with the wooden screw knobs and I really dislike having to baste
my fabric to the scroll rods. I prefer the split in the rods. This
also makes it real easy to switch between projects and easy storage of
any UFO's into my zip lock bags! Mary/Shihiyea
Tzarna
I have given up on scroll rods. They never did work well for me, so
I've gone entirely to Q-snaps. I've found that as long as I put
fabric between the sidebars and the fabric I'm working with, nothing
ever gets crushed, ripped, pulled, etc. I've also gone back to
holding the Q-snaps in my hands. it's easier for me to sit in my
favorite rocking chair that way....
Sitntm
>.I love to
>have my fabric tight as a drum and it just doesn't happen with a scroll
>frame..
Have you considered looking at the "Sit & Stitch" scroll frame which uses
special hardware...not wing nuts or wooden knobs...no stains on the wood
parts...and utilizes a base which sits under your leg...don't have to hold
anything..no basting...no split rods!
KPaules531
In article <33d2b28e....@news.hancock.net>, tza...@hancock.net
(Tzarna) writes:
I guess I just don't get it. I've loved Tomorrow Treasures scroll frames
from the very first set I bought. I've kept my hoops for small projects
or very large ones, such as afghans, but everything else gets put on a
frame. I really haven't felt the need to invest in any other product or
brand. TT will continue to get my money!
Happy Stitching!
JoAnn
Cass Cohn
kpaul...@aol.com (KPaules531) wrote:
>In article <33d2b28e....@news.hancock.net>, tza...@hancock.net
>(Tzarna) writes:
>
>>I have given up on scroll rods. They never did work well for me....
>>
>> <<snippage>>
>
>I guess I just don't get it. I've loved Tomorrow Treasures scroll frames
>from the very first set I bought.
Hate to do a "me, too" here...but...me, too!! I've loved TT's scroll
frames since the first minute I sewed fabric into one and started
stitching. I've never looked back. I think I kept one or two small
(3-4") hoops...but don't know when I used them last. I have several
sizes of bars; 12 knobs, and two pairs of spacers. Three sets of rods
are in use at any one time. My work stays so much cleaner and nothing
has ever been crushed.
I guess it just boils down to whatever floats your boat.
Take Care,
Mary W. Cohn
Raleigh, NC
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Kevin Scott
There is an alternative to wing nuts, stitching, taping and split dowels.
Go to http://www.gate.net/~victorei and click on the link for Kevin's
Scroll frames. I am the Kevin that makes them. So far most of my sales
have been to cross stitch shops in the Virginia Beach/Norfolk area of
Virginia. One shop just sent me their fourth order. I plan on haveing a
booth at next years trade show in North Carolina.
Kevin
Kelly Cartwright
I must be missing something here. What "wing nuts"? My scroll frames
have wooden knobs. (of course some are sanded better than others, but
that is easily fixed!)
As for the tightness, that is a personal preference. For my needs the
scroll frames do fine.
To each his/her own! : )
Happy Stitching!
-Kelly
LadyTegan
In article <19970726143...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
roi...@aol.com (Roisinn) writes:
>Or... you could go to the hardware store and pick up a
>wingnut tightener... little slotted wooden thingy with a
>central hole drilled in it to accommodate the bolt...
>
>They run 25 cents a piece around here.... :-)
>
>(personally... I think this was a "guy" secret for a long time...)
>
>
Ayup.. MUST be a guy thing!
Tegan