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rosemaryT

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Feb 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/27/99
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Kenzo wrote in message <7ba37a$cqj$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>...
>
>A lot of the recent posters to this NG seem to be mad on counted cross
>stitch / aida / linen but I don't see many people talking about big, chunky
>tapestries... Do you tend to stick with the same medium or do you like to
>change around from time to time? Is the 'scene' different in the US than in
>the UK? Here there is a big push for kits by Ehrmann, Elizabeth Bradley et
>all- but nobody ever seems to talk about it on-line!

>Keith Hare
>

Hi Keith,

There are also needlepointers here. We are probably in the minority and
don't always post as often. Welcome to the newsgroup. It is always nice to
have another needlepointer around.

Rosemary Rochester, NY

wol...@pacbell.net

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rosemaryT wrote in message <3J0C2.4293$r7....@newsr2.twcny.rr.com>...


After cross stitching for my entire stitching career (18 months <bg>) I'm
starting to get excited about needlepoint. I'm trying to work out patterns and
stitches for the background and lettering of a NP pillow I'm designing. First NP
project for me, so I figure why start simply with someone else's design? That
would be too easy and sensible, right? So I'm learning by reading to start with.
Jo Christensen's new book, plus a book of background stitches for needlepoint,
plus a book on the basketweave stitch that's on its way. When the basketweave
book comes I'm going to start practicing stitches. I had a beginning NP class a
couple of years ago at SOXS but need to relearn all over again, plus a lot of
practice.

I'm looking over the pictures in Jo's book, and at projects on Websites. There
is so much vibrancy and verve and visual impact in a lot of today's needlepoint
designs! A good place to start exploring is Janet Perry's Mining Company site
<http://needlepoint.miningco.com> . It's packed with info, instruction,
projects, links.

Nan Evelyn


emerald

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Feb 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/27/99
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Hi Keith,
Some of us do a little of everything. You know - too many projects and
not enough time.
So "no cheezy tartans"? As one who is *very* tired of the (cheezy)
shamrocks that are on everything associated with *her* culture , may I
say BRAVO!! <vbg>

emerald in BC
(who was born and raised in Ireland but has no shamrocks or shilleleghs
[however you spell it] in her house)


Kenzo

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Dear group,

What a wonderful load of folks you are!!!! being a veteran of NGs for quite
a few years, I stumbled across this one while in the process of setting up
shop for my wife, Kate (a wee Scottish tapestry / needlepoint company -
without the wee Scottish cheesy tartans, I'm afraid!). Everyone is so
pleasant and it makes such a change from the nippy name calling and
spam-o-rama that is the majority of the NGs we hang about in...

A lot of the recent posters to this NG seem to be mad on counted cross
stitch / aida / linen but I don't see many people talking about big, chunky
tapestries... Do you tend to stick with the same medium or do you like to
change around from time to time? Is the 'scene' different in the US than in
the UK? Here there is a big push for kits by Ehrmann, Elizabeth Bradley et
all- but nobody ever seems to talk about it on-line!

I'd love to hear what you all think, and to say 'hello' to you all!!!

Regards,


Keith Hare

------------------------------------------------------
www.albanyhill.com original needlepoint / tapestry kits
------------------------------------------------------


sha...@epix.net

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Keith,

I am a needlepointer and a designer, owning a needlepoint company that
produceds handpainted needlepoint. And I can be (my designs too)
considered anything but normal.
A good site to check out not really normal needlepoint (but they also
have normal) is
http://www.needlenook.com

You can follow the link to my listing there and see needlepoint bras,
corsets, fashion items and fountain pens. Sorry, no shamrocks.

Needlepoint is hot in the US but needlepointers tend to be quiet about
what they do and spend more time needlepointing than talking about it.
We are very creative neeldepointers.

At a recent trade show, we had in our class a shop owner from
Switzerland who enjoyed and learned the American way of needlepoint and
her comment is the people there will think she is batty (translates to
nuts, crazy, bonkers, etc) trying to do such intricate stitches on
canvas. In her country they just do normal needlepoint. That is untill
she teaches them and begins a trend in her country. A delightful
shopowner. I am considering taking my product to the UK and selling it
there in the future. I think it may sell...I know it has been copied for
a fact. So, there are people willing to risk their business reputation
and legal action by copying my not so normal work.

We are seeing more international shops at our shows which will
eventually bring in more diverse product. Bradley and Ehrman sell in the
US too, but it is a small percentage of what does sell in nedlepoint.
Here we sell mostly handpaints rather than printed canvases. Simply
means an artist paints the design rather than a machine printing it.
Offers a more exact canvas with little or no errors or lines than runn
off the thread.

Keep on talking about needlepoint on rctn. It is my mission to let the
world know needlepoint is not boring. It offers a lot. Because of the
canvas holes being larger than fabric, you can use many more threads on
it, More stitches, more dimension than cross stitch. It is not flat and
can be very dimensional.

So many cross stitchers are expressing a new interest in needlepoint.
Nothing wrong with cross stitch...it is a wonderful art but sometimes
people need to do something else.

Thank you for jumping in here. We love needlepoint!
Sharon G

Kenzo wrote:
>
> One thing we have found is that there aren't many 'unusual' tapestries
> kicking around--- it's a shame that most designers tend to play safe with
> their designs, particularly now that more people (in the UK at least) seem
> to be buying these designs as a co-ordinated addition to their home, rather
> than just some bizzarre flower or animal which just sits like an ornament!

> Keith

John & Liz Hampton

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Kenzo wrote:

> Dear group,
>
> What a wonderful load of folks you are!!!! snip A lot of the recent posters


> to this NG seem to be mad on counted cross stitch / aida / linen but I don't
> see many people talking about big, chunky tapestries... Do you tend to stick
> with the same medium or do you like to change around from time to time? Is
> the 'scene' different in the US than in
> the UK? Here there is a big push for kits by Ehrmann, Elizabeth Bradley et
> all- but nobody ever seems to talk about it on-line!
>
> I'd love to hear what you all think, and to say 'hello' to you all!!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Keith Hare
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> www.albanyhill.com original needlepoint / tapestry kits
> ------------------------------------------------------

I have several ufo NP projects in my stash, but I just received a chart called
"My Brother's Dragon" by the Cricket Collection. I bought it to do in XS in
Aida for the library's summer reading program, but it was designed mainly for
10 ct canvas with lots of different fibers. I think I feel some fiber
fondling coming on next year. The library's is still going to be done on 14
ct. Navy Blue Aida (to save time & $$$) but I like the picture enough that I
think I'll make another for myself next year using the canvas. It's designed
for XS on canvas, but if there are no partial stitches (I haven't looked that
closely, but there may be one or two) I don't know why I couldn't do it in
regular NP. Anyway, it's a cute design of a dragon reading a book, holding a
lantern with the end of his tail.
As usual, I want to put down everything else I'm working on (or need to
start) and start the new chart right away!! :-)) Unfortunately, I do have
some "real" work to do first - like banding the new pigeon babies before they
get too big & cleaning out the goat pen. :-)))
Liz from Humbug


wol...@pacbell.net

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sha...@epix.net wrote in message <36D942...@epix.net>...
<snip>

>It is my mission to let the
>world know needlepoint is not boring. It offers a lot. Because of the
>canvas holes being larger than fabric, you can use many more threads on
>it, More stitches, more dimension than cross stitch. It is not flat and
>can be very dimensional.


That's one of the things that is so appealing to me about needlepoint--the
texture possibilities. The surface of XS is very smooth, and it's lovely. NP can
be any texture, including smooth. The thread and stitch variations available are
mind-boggling. I'm just beginning to scratch the surface in learning about NP,
but it seems so wide-open in the possibilities for creativity on the stitcher's
part.

Nan Evelyn

Kenzo

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Sharon,

Even before we discovered rctn we found your site, and Kate loved your
designs because they are, as you say, a little different!

My wife has been working on her portfolio of designs for nearly 3 years, and
she feels as strongly as you do about the creative aspects of her work.

Needlepointers are pigeon-holed as tubby old ladies stitching stuff for
their grandkids and, while I am sure that there are some lovely examples of
this case in point, there really is a wider interest with "the young"!!

Kate is 29 and sees a lot of potential in attracting younger stitchers to
designs with a more quirky, original content than non-needlepointers would
expect (I have often interrupted her while she's deeply immersed in
Stitchery, listening to The Prodigy, Fat Boy Slim or something equally
loud - she wears headphones, the considerate woman that she is!)

Keith
------------------------------------------------------
Albany Hill original Needlepoint / Tapestry Kits
www.albanyhill.com


sha...@epix.net wrote in message <36D942...@epix.net>...

>Keep on talking about needlepoint on rctn. It is my mission to let the


>world know needlepoint is not boring. It offers a lot. Because of the
>canvas holes being larger than fabric, you can use many more threads on
>it, More stitches, more dimension than cross stitch. It is not flat and
>can be very dimensional.
>

Lula

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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What attracted me to needlepoint originally was the fact that I could
"paint" with any number of threads on blank canvas, similar to painting
on paper. I was in love with the process of creating a 2-D
drawing/painting into a tangible object with needlepoint.
With my background as a textile designer/illustrator, needlepoint was a
natural extension to experiment artistically with and get to use all
those beautiful colors and types of threads I craved to use for
something.

Needlepoint is definitely an artistic medium and it's no surprise that
many artists are drawn to it when they pick up needlework.
Kaffe Fassett and Candace Bahouth are perfect examples of artists who
have used needlepoint canvas as another way to express their painting
skills not to mention another market to sell to.
It is ironic that many now view these two designers as being considered
more conventional as their work has now become mainstream.

Needlepoint in the US on the otherhand is very original, especially from
many of us designers who create hand painted needlepoint lines for the
marketplace. There are more unique choices of designs in this market
than any other needlework one - one of the reasons handpainted
needlepoint is such a popular item among stitchers.
There is something for every taste, color combinations and subject
matter and if this isn't enough - there are always custom orders.
One can be as traditional or unconventional as they wish with hand
painted canvas - needlepoint is the needlework of choice for stitchers
who want to be different as it offers many creative stitching options.
---
Lula
http://www.woolydream.com
Needlework Adventures

Kenzo wrote:
>
> One thing we have found is that there aren't many 'unusual' tapestries
> kicking around--- it's a shame that most designers tend to play safe with
> their designs, particularly now that more people (in the UK at least) seem
> to be buying these designs as a co-ordinated addition to their home, rather
> than just some bizzarre flower or animal which just sits like an ornament!
>

> We've bought a load of books in recent years by designers who are a little
> less 'conventional' - and Kate's own designs tend to be based on subjects
> which are often overlooked by traditional designers ~(eg fruit slices,
> stylized flowers and big abstract....thingies...!)


Nathania Apple

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Dear Keith,

I can personally attest that not all needlepointers are little old ladies. At
27 I hardly fall into that category! I am a cross-discipline stitcher/crafter
and while I do primarily cross stitch, my interest in needlepoint has
definitely been piqued in the past couple of years. While on holiday in France
two years ago I was quite in awe of the marvelous tapestries of the chateaux
in the Loire valley. I purchased a DMC kit for a needlepoint pillow and bam! a
new love was born. I have recently started Jill Gordon's Savonnerie from the
Ehrman Tapestry book, my first charted needlepoint project. I am finding it a
bit more challenging, especially with the constant color changes, but it is
turning out beautifully on 12 point canvas with Paternyan wools. I have
changed the background from the brilliant blue to a blue green to match my
duvet cover. I can't wait to have it finished.

Glad to have you as a new member!

Nathania

Nathania Apple

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Jessicat

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Being a Canadian, living in the US, I find this rather entertaining - no
hockey sticks or 'touques' (knit winter hat often with a pom-pom on top,
sometimes with a face-mask) in our house, though I can't say the same for
Dear Bro. We do however, keep a baseball bat behind the front door. We've
never used it for anything as neither of us play and the folks who come
door-to-door evangelizing haven't ever gotten out of hand, but it does
provide some interesting talk for guests! :-)
Jessica /\ /\
oo
>< jess...@tabbygnat.com

emerald <"ejkeane\"nospam\" "@hotmail.com>

Kenzo

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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We're both glad to be here :-))

I'm not exactly a little old lady myself! lol---

I have seen the Jill Gordon design you mentioned, I considered doing it
myself (how easily distracted we are!)

Kate


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Albany Hill original Needlepoint / Tapestry Kits
www.albanyhill.com

Nathania Apple wrote in message <36D9A815...@value.net>...

Kenzo

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Lula,

Your kits are wonderful! did you take a decision on selling them wholesale
based on any specific reason? we are aiming to sell all of our kits on-line
within the next 2 months (the website isn't exactly 'mature' as yet but we
have spent the last few months investigating all the options...

Kate
------------------------------------------------------
Albany Hill original Needlepoint / Tapestry Kits
www.albanyhill.com

Lula wrote in message <36D94C...@earthlink.net>...

Lula

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Hi Kate,

Thanks for the very nice compliment Kate - as the sole owner of my
design business as well as painter/designer, I chose to go the wholesale
route as the most logical as I cannot do everything.
I did retail locally in the beginning but enjoy the wholesale marketing
much more as I am not tied to long retail hours, though I work over 80
or more hrs a week anyway but at my pace not to mention the fact I can
not paint fast enough...

I don't sell kits only hand painted canvases which dictated my choice to
specialize in a niche market segment and go wholesale since I don't
provide materials or instructions as in a nice kit.

Unless one has a staff, it's hard to be both retailer and designer and
it's the specialty retail shops that keep me in business with their
support in dealing with the customer, who often needs service in
choosing threads, stitches and provide other needlework services.

It's a hard line to walk because I get many requests from stitchers who
want to buy direct from me - but I made the decision to support the
network of retailers who do such a wonderful job marketing my work in
the shops 14 years ago, which has worked very well for my situation.

Good luck on your needework business debut - I wish you great success!


---
Lula
http://www.woolydream.com
Needlework Adventures

rosemaryT

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wol...@pacbell.net wrote in message ...

Welcome to the wonderful world of needlepoint Nan Evelyn. It has been
suggested on the ANG Mail list that one takes a piece of canvas about 11" x
13" , measure out 8 x 10 on that and then fill it in with one stitch and its
variations using bits of thread left over from other projects. Wouldn't it
be neat to see a bit of each of your cross stitched pieces in the first
needlepoint project that you design/stitch?

Rosemary, Rochester, NY

E mailed and posted.

Judith B. Truly

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Kenzo <kenzo_n...@dial.pipex.com> wrote in article
<7ba37a$cqj$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>...
> Dear group,
>

> What a wonderful load of folks you are!!!! being a veteran of NGs for
quite
> a few years, I stumbled across this one while in the process of setting
up
> shop for my wife, Kate (a wee Scottish tapestry / needlepoint company -
> without the wee Scottish cheesy tartans, I'm afraid!). Everyone is so
> pleasant and it makes such a change from the nippy name calling and
> spam-o-rama that is the majority of the NGs we hang about in...

It's not that we don't do NP; I think a lot of us have just gotten away
from it for a few years and are just now beginning to be interested in it
again. Years ago, most of what you could find only required the boring
background to be filled in and, unless you designed your own, you were
stuck with that. There weren't many designers around and not a whole lot of
good information. I have many old pieces that I designed myself. Some I
like and some I don't but they were good practise and interesting to do. I
keep them because I learned something new in each one..
Now, however, you can find just about anything you might want to look for,
plus the many cross stitch patterns that can easily be worked in NP. And if
you still want to create on your own, there's lots more information
available.
Judith

Joe Szoladi

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I had needlepoint as my FIRST love, but I am frustrated by trying to deal
with painted canvases....I would like to see more charted needlepoint
available...much more precise. I did "Basket of Poppies" from Jean McIntosh
years ago as one of my first BIG projects and am now struggling with a
painted canvas...I think it's called "Call of the Wild"...two wolves against
a moonlit snowscape. In spite of Basket of Poppies being larger, it was
easier...because it was charted, not painted. Joyce

wol...@pacbell.net

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Joe Szoladi wrote in message <36da...@news.vphos.net>...


Have you tried charts made for counted cross stitch? Can't speak from experience
but I've read here on the ng and at Janet Perry's needlepoint site
<http://needlepoint.miningco.com> that an XS chart can be used for NP as long as
it has no unconvertible or uneliminatable fractional stitches, and as long as
you can decide how to handle any blended needles called for. And there are lots
of XS charts that don't have either fractional stitches or blended needles.

TIA,
Nan Evelyn


sp...@bulback.cat

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"Joe Szoladi" <j...@mail.bcinternet.net> wrote:

>I had needlepoint as my FIRST love, but I am frustrated by trying to deal
>with painted canvases....I would like to see more charted needlepoint
>available...much more precise. I did "Basket of Poppies" from Jean McIntosh
>years ago as one of my first BIG projects and am now struggling with a
>painted canvas...I think it's called "Call of the Wild"...two wolves against
>a moonlit snowscape. In spite of Basket of Poppies being larger, it was
>easier...because it was charted, not painted. Joyce

I am having the same problem with finishing a printed canvas for a
needlepoint picture that I got for my birthday. I would much rather
count and be told exactly which thread goes where. It is a nice
picture, but really hard to see when you are working on it from a
distance of a foot away from your face! Nope, give me a chart anyday.

Kim, who does more needlepoint than x-stitch, but usually on high
count cloth:)
cat is com

Stef

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In article <7bc351$3nm$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>, Kenzo <kenzo_nospamxxx@di
al.pipex.com> writes

>Kate is 29 and sees a lot of potential in attracting younger stitchers to
>designs with a more quirky, original content than non-needlepointers would
>expect (I have often interrupted her while she's deeply immersed in
>Stitchery, listening to The Prodigy, Fat Boy Slim or something equally
>loud - she wears headphones, the considerate woman that she is!)
>

yeah - a woman after my own heart - you should see me trying to stitch
in time to Placebo!
stef -Hounslow, England

WIP - Clara Bow
Hardanger Heart wedding sampler

Robert Tusler

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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Keith

I am known for my big chunky needlepoint! I just prefer shoving a
big needle into a big hole!

Robert

On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 00:39:04 -0000, "Kenzo"
<kenzo_n...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

>Dear group,
>
>What a wonderful load of folks you are!!!! being a veteran of NGs for quite
>a few years, I stumbled across this one while in the process of setting up
>shop for my wife, Kate (a wee Scottish tapestry / needlepoint company -
>without the wee Scottish cheesy tartans, I'm afraid!). Everyone is so
>pleasant and it makes such a change from the nippy name calling and
>spam-o-rama that is the majority of the NGs we hang about in...
>

>A lot of the recent posters to this NG seem to be mad on counted cross
>stitch / aida / linen but I don't see many people talking about big, chunky
>tapestries... Do you tend to stick with the same medium or do you like to
>change around from time to time? Is the 'scene' different in the US than in
>the UK? Here there is a big push for kits by Ehrmann, Elizabeth Bradley et
>all- but nobody ever seems to talk about it on-line!
>
>I'd love to hear what you all think, and to say 'hello' to you all!!!
>
>Regards,
>
>
>Keith Hare
>
>------------------------------------------------------
> www.albanyhill.com original needlepoint / tapestry kits
>------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>

Robert Tusler
rtu...@coblands.com
<http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~rtusler>

Melinda Coss

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And there was me thinking you were known for your charm and good
looks!
Queen

JALWms

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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I would love to try "big chunky tapestries" I lived in Germany and tapestries
will forever remind me of that part of the world. I wish now that I had
invested in needlepoint/tapestries while I was there. I was then a beginer at x
stitch so I stuck to the x stitch kits I could get on post.

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