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Pat Porter

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Sep 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/29/00
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How are you getting on with your Lowery stand, Victoria? Brilliant, aren`t
they? And you said you had bought a Dazor light - what`s the difference
between that and an OTT light - and are there websites (I`m sure there are!)
where I can have a look at them?

Pat

East Anglian Xstitch Designs
http://homepages.tesco.net/~porter


Sally

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in article gnd9tsco57fjldgjl...@4ax.com, Victoria at
ani...@austin.rr.com0 wrote on 9/29/00 9:45 AM:

> Oh Pat, it was the BEST couple hundred+ dollars I spend for a tool in
> stitchery!
> I mean that. It is such a joy to be able to fully adjust the stand with the
> twist of just two turn arms. It swings out, up, down, flips over...with great
> ease. It truly is brilliant.


Hey Victoria...

The Lowery is a metal one, right?

Does it fold down flat if you wanted to drag with you somewhere?

A friend loaned me her Gazelle to try and see if I like it.. I've had it for
about 6 months... I learned I love having the floor stand... :)

I think I'll finish more bigger projects now that I have been using this. I
still like having a small project handy sometimes.. but if I'm going to go
"camp out" at a friends house for the evening, I've already been known to
drag that Gazelle along.... and it's awkward to do so.

Anybody know a good fold-uppy one? I don't even care how heavy it is, I
just want it to fold flat.

Sally


maria

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Sally,
I'm not Victoria, just a mega happy Lowery owner.

I've schlepped my Lowery lots of places. It disassembles in minutes to
fit into a 12 in square, flat, canvas totebag--one or two of the parts
will stick out the top. It reassembles just as quickly. The less
expensive grey metal one with stainless lamp bracket (accessory) weighs
6.5 lbs.

It's carrying around the Dazor (which the Lowery is strong enough to
hold) that becomes a pain <G>.

HTH
Maria in MA


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Before you buy.

Sally

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in article 8r2k89$67u$1...@nnrp1.deja.com, maria at mp...@my-deja.com wrote on
9/29/00 11:41 AM:

> Sally,
> I'm not Victoria, just a mega happy Lowery owner.
>
> I've schlepped my Lowery lots of places. It disassembles in minutes to
> fit into a 12 in square, flat, canvas totebag--one or two of the parts
> will stick out the top. It reassembles just as quickly. The less
> expensive grey metal one with stainless lamp bracket (accessory) weighs
> 6.5 lbs.
>
> It's carrying around the Dazor (which the Lowery is strong enough to
> hold) that becomes a pain <G>.
>
> HTH
> Maria in MA
>

Thanks Maria....

I've been using a goofy snake-like light on the Gazelle... it kind of looks
like a desk lamp, but instead of having a stand, it has this 18" flexible
tubing like stuff around the cord so it can be wrapped around something to
hold it... it's stiff enough that I wrap it around the stand and arm of the
gazelle and it will stay well above the needlework. It holds one of those
25 watt halogen bulbs. I'm not especially fond of that kind of light, but
it is cheap and easy.

I'm going to go check out the Lowerys.

Sally


Nan Evelyn

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"Victoria" <ani...@austin.rr.com0> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:27:49 -0600, Sally <bead...@rmi.net> wrote:

> >The Lowery is a metal one, right?
> >
> >Does it fold down flat if you wanted to drag with you somewhere?

<snip>


> >Anybody know a good fold-uppy one? I don't even care how heavy it
is, I
> >just want it to fold flat.
>

> This stand has two parts. The come apart in a half second and you can
carry it
> all in one hand. It is heavy, but it is easily brought with you in a
heavy
> fabric bag. It is the most simple and delightful tool in my stash.
>
> victoria
>
> Here take a look:
>
> http://www.stitchers-paradise.com/Stands/S034.jpg
<snip>

And if two parts isn't small enough, it can be disassembled further into
four pieces. Five, if you count the nut. (I mean the nut that attaches
the upright to the base, not the [stitching] nut who's carrying the
stand. LOL!)

Nan

Sally

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>
> This stand has two parts. The come apart in a half second and you can carry
> it
> all in one hand. It is heavy, but it is easily brought with you in a heavy
> fabric bag. It is the most simple and delightful tool in my stash.
>
> victoria
>
> Here take a look:
>
> http://www.stitchers-paradise.com/Stands/S034.jpg
>
> I do not have all the accessories. I wanted to use it for a while and see
> what
> I would like. I actually have everything rigged exactly the way I like it, so
> I
> do not need the fancy accessories.
>
> Victoria


Thanks for the URL.

I appreciate it.

Sally


Sally

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Oh gawd... Victoria! My heart is still in arrythmia after seeing the price
on those!!!!


All right... once I calm down.. Can you tell me how you rigged yours?

The only thingie I know I want to have on it is something to hold a light.

Given it has such a small base.. do you think it would be tippy with a 26"
frame in use???

I'm going to buy myself a stand of some sort for my own Christmas present
this year.. (what can I say? I'm single <G> )

Anyway.. I was kinda set on a lap stand.. but then I got into this mood
where I want to be able to drag it with me if I go to a friends house for
the evening.

I'm in *big* project mode lately... and I don't like working on them anymore
without a stand.

Let's see... I don't smoke.. Rarely drink .. I'm not a clothes shopper..
I guess I could justify this if I really try <BG>

Sally


Sally

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<snip>
>
> And if two parts isn't small enough, it can be disassembled further into
> four pieces. Five, if you count the nut. (I mean the nut that attaches
> the upright to the base, not the [stitching] nut who's carrying the
> stand. LOL!)
>
> Nan
>
>


So are you in love with LOWERY as well?

Any downsides?

Sally


CandyCorr

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Sep 29, 2000, 8:15:46 PM9/29/00
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Hi Pat!

As the pround owner of both a Dazor and and OTT, I can say the difference is
whether or not you require magnification.

DAZOR
Pluses:
I have my Dazor at home on a wheeling base. I have both the 2.5X and the new
5X lens, so can change as required.
You can purchase a tru-light bulb for this if you want the same type of light
as the Dazor. I have to say it is my favorite.

Minuses(sp?):
Transporting my home lamp would be ridicules, it weighs a ton. I also had a
model with a table clamp to use at work shopsbut did not find it user friendly.
The tables at workshops did not always have a lip or one thick enough to use
the clamp. When I did have a table that the lamp would fit, the lamp itself
was top heavy and you needed to be extremely cautious or it was constantly
falling over. It is not the most attractive thing to have sitting in the lving
room

DAZOR
Pluses:
I have the portable model. The tru-light bulbs are great for sorting colors.
The portable model is excellent for travel, with the hard self container.
Cosmetically, I have to admit I think it is more attractive then the Dazor.

Minuses
If you need magnification, it is not user friendly, since both the floor and
portable model have limited adjustablity. I compensate for the lack of
magnification with dime store glasses.

Also on the gazelle vs Lowery issue, I prefer the Lowery. I am a person who
likes traditional/Queen Anne furniture, so do not think it is as
attractive/romantic looking as my gazelle. However, as a tool I find it far
superior. It travels as easily as my K lap frame. It will except any size
frame from the smallest to well up to 30" with no problem, except maybe some
counter weigh on the base. It excepts scroll bars and stretcher bars with out
any additional equipment or futher adjustment. I don't think you would have a
problem with a hoop or Q-frame. You can switch projects in seconds, with no
problem.

Candy

Nan Evelyn

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"Sally" <bead...@rmi.net> wrote in message
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> So are you in love with LOWERY as well?
>
> Any downsides?

The Lowery's not perfect in every way for everybody, but that would be
impossible. I like it very much. It's heavier than the System 4, but I
don't find that to be a problem. I have the stainless steel version, and
that extra weight helps keep it stable. It is designed to be pinned down
by something--that small foot may need help when there's a very large
piece in the clamp. I have a 14 x 20 set of stretcher bars in it, with
congress cloth, and that's not heavy enough or lopsided enough to topple
it even without having any weight on the foot.

I like the way it swings to the side, so I don't have to sidle out from
underneath it or lift it out of the way when I stand up. I like the
sleek design. Even though modern is not my style of choice in home
decor, it fits into my sort-of-traditional-style living room without
clashing, and nearly disappears since it's so thin. It doesn't get in
the way when I'm stitching.

I like how easy it is to flip to the back, to raise or lower the canvas
and to adjust the angle of the canvas. No squeaking. :-) No wobbling. I
like having it on the side, instead of in front of me. I like the fact
that it's going to last for a long, long time. It's easy to take apart
and reassemble, and it fits easily into tote bags and suitcases. I like
it. :-)

Nan Evelyn, unaffiliated with any company anywhere.


maria

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Sep 30, 2000, 1:09:09 AM9/30/00
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> Oh gawd... Victoria! My heart is still in arrythmia after seeing
the price on those!!!!

LOL Chill, Sally,
this is the interloper again (not Victoria).
after a couple of years of looking for a Lowery in the US on trips
between MA and IL, I mailordered one directly from the UK when the
exchange rates were about 1.50 to 1 UK pound.

I got mine from Wye Needlecraft after a few emails back and forth
discussing my needs/uses of one, product possibilities and $$.

http://www.wye.co.uk/

The price for the thing plus the accessory bracket was about 66 lb or
so. Actual shipping cost was added at about 30 lb. (figures are from
memory).

Total US came to about 150$. Which is comparable with a fully loaded
Ergo (i.e. with chart holder), which I also have, but don't use very
much anymore. I find the Lowery more versatile, more adjustable,
easier to work with--turns out of the way.

Before I get fried for not buying in the US, don't blame me, I tried,
no shops I found carried it---indeed, this year I schlepped my Lowery
to 3 local shops (one of which was a needlepoint shop!) to show them
what it looked like! That's the distributors job, NOT mine. Looking at
it this way--I did spend $$ in someone else's local UK shop. I
promptly spent the difference and then some at the shops I visited with
my new show-n-tell toy.

> Given it has such a small base.. do you think it would be tippy with
a 26" frame in use???

No. It doesn't even tip when the Dazor is in the bracket. But just to
be certain of it's stability I put the flat base under the chair leg.
Some people put heavy books on the base.

The only problem I have with any rods over 24" is that that seems to be
the length at which the side clamp lets the project start to droop.
(My Ergo's clamp droops the projects from the word GO.)

> I'm going to buy myself a stand of some sort for my own Christmas
present this year.. (what can I say? I'm single <G> )

Isn't it strange how we feel we have to apologize for our splurges?
Don't. You work hard. Enjoy.


>
> Anyway.. I was kinda set on a lap stand

I've got one of those, too. An Elan. I love it. As you noted, it was
a great portable thing. Now I schlep the Lowery everywhere and I can
actually sit in a chair which I never did with the Elan. Elan is a lap
stand, sure, but I hated it on my lap, so I either set it under my legs
(comfortable) or on a short table (not comfortable).

> I guess I could justify this if I really try <BG>

No need to justify (except perhaps if you're going to pay extortionate
US prices for it). <G>

Treat yourself well,
maria in MA

Pat Porter

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Knew you`d love it. Being a bit disabled, I love the way you can just swing
it out of the way to stand up, rather than have to lift it out of the way!
See what I mean when I said it`s so much better than the wooden ones that go
wobbly. I have three of those in the loft - "just in case" - of what, I
don`t know! Thanks for the URLS re: the lights.

Pat P.

Victoria wrote

> Oh Pat, it was the BEST couple hundred+ dollars I spend for a tool in
stitchery!
> I mean that. It is such a joy to be able to fully adjust the stand with
the
> twist of just two turn arms. It swings out, up, down, flips over...with
great
> ease. It truly is brilliant.
>

> I did not buy the Dazor light, but I ordered the Dazor lens to put into
the
> light I did buy. The light I bought has a natural daylight fluorescent
round
> tube bulb and it is perfect for me. I need to stitch under magnification
or I
> cannot see what I'm doing. It is not as bad with canvas work, but I have
found
> since starting to stitch with floss on fabric, it is difficult for me to
see. I
> ordered a 5x diopter lens from Dazor and it will fit into the light I did
buy.
> Dazor wanted 160ish dollars for the light, and I paid about 55 plus
another 38
> for the lens...which is why anyone would need to buy a Dazor (their
premium
> magnifying lens). The only other difference is the design of the swing
arm in
> that it is fully concealed, and mine looks a little more industrial, but I
got
> brushed chrome and it is very pretty.
>
> Here is the URL of the light I did buy:
>
>
http://www.officedepot.com/shop/catalog/sku.asp?ID=301451&LEVEL=SK&SID=XX45J
JNEG3SR2H8K00AKHRPAJ6635BJ6&PP=301001
>
> Here is the URL for Dazor:
>
> www.dazor.com
>
> Victoria

> http://www.freetibet.org

Sally

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in article mfnbts4kqif8hmoum...@4ax.com, Victoria at
ani...@austin.rr.com0 wrote on 9/30/00 6:43 AM:

>> Oh gawd... Victoria! My heart is still in arrythmia after seeing the price
>> on those!!!!
>

> Imagine how annoyed I am when I paid 225 for mine plus tax...then I go down
> the
> road to Ginger's (which I didn't know about at the time I ordered mine) and
> she
> sells it for 205 AND gives you a 20 dollar spending certificate for each 200
> dollars you spend...which would have meant I could have gotten it for 185 AND
> had 20 dollars worth of anything else in her store. Oh well.

Thanks for the nice response....


OK... so where is Ginger's?

Sally


Sally

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in article 8r3shk$73e$1...@nnrp1.deja.com, maria at mp...@my-deja.com wrote on
9/29/00 11:09 PM:

Hi Maria...

>
>> Oh gawd... Victoria! My heart is still in arrythmia after seeing
> the price on those!!!!
>
> LOL Chill, Sally,
> this is the interloper again (not Victoria).
> after a couple of years of looking for a Lowery in the US on trips
> between MA and IL, I mailordered one directly from the UK when the
> exchange rates were about 1.50 to 1 UK pound.
>
> I got mine from Wye Needlecraft after a few emails back and forth
> discussing my needs/uses of one, product possibilities and $$.
>
> http://www.wye.co.uk/
>
> The price for the thing plus the accessory bracket was about 66 lb or
> so. Actual shipping cost was added at about 30 lb. (figures are from
> memory).
>
> Total US came to about 150$. Which is comparable with a fully loaded
> Ergo (i.e. with chart holder), which I also have, but don't use very
> much anymore. I find the Lowery more versatile, more adjustable,
> easier to work with--turns out of the way.

Where are these things made? Are the from the UK?

>
> The only problem I have with any rods over 24" is that that seems to be
> the length at which the side clamp lets the project start to droop.
> (My Ergo's clamp droops the projects from the word GO.)

Hmmmm...

That's kind of discouraging.

The 26" project I have on it's frame now only has a 6" side bar.. maybe that
will be light enough to avoid the droop... on the other hand.. the 24" one
I have on right now has a 12" side bar (much heavier).


>
> Treat yourself well,
> maria in MA

You're too kind <G>

Sounds like the Lowery people are pretty satisfied. In hindsight, you
haven't seen anything more interesting than these, have you?

(same question goes for Victoria)

sally


Deb Milner

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On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:12:18 -0600, Sally <bead...@rmi.net> wrote:

>Anyway.. I was kinda set on a lap stand.. but then I got into this mood

I really like using a lap stand. Mine is a fairly cheap one I bought
in Arlington, TX at either the Hobby Lobby or the JoAnn's there. I
was out of town on business, had brought my WIP along (on a 23" frame)
and thought I would be able to work on it without hauling my floor
stand along. Well, after about 15 minutes, I was off and hunting for
some type of stand. The one I use is very simple, with a curved piece
of wood that slips under my legs. I've been using it for over a year
now, and it is great for traveling.

BUT, for home, I want a floor stand again, but one that is easy for me
to use from the couch. I saw a gazelle(?) last week at my LNS and I
WANT ONE.

It will hold my chart, my work, my light, my.......

<sigh> just can't afford it. Wonder if DH can build me one?


Deb
(take out all before milner to reply)
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Man and Wife (just started and must finish quickly)

Sally

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in article 804cts4mgoknlvrg5...@4ax.com, Deb Milner at
removethi...@msn.com wrote on 9/30/00 11:33 AM:

> On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:12:18 -0600, Sally <bead...@rmi.net> wrote:
>
>> Anyway.. I was kinda set on a lap stand.. but then I got into this mood
>
> I really like using a lap stand. Mine is a fairly cheap one I bought
> in Arlington, TX at either the Hobby Lobby or the JoAnn's there. I
> was out of town on business, had brought my WIP along (on a 23" frame)
> and thought I would be able to work on it without hauling my floor
> stand along. Well, after about 15 minutes, I was off and hunting for
> some type of stand. The one I use is very simple, with a curved piece
> of wood that slips under my legs. I've been using it for over a year
> now, and it is great for traveling.
>
> BUT, for home, I want a floor stand again, but one that is easy for me
> to use from the couch. I saw a gazelle(?) last week at my LNS and I
> WANT ONE.
>
> It will hold my chart, my work, my light, my.......
>
> <sigh> just can't afford it. Wonder if DH can build me one?


Hiya Deb...

I wouldn't think it would take a rocket scientist to make a frame similar to
Gazelle. If DH does any wordworking at all, he should be able to pop
something like it together.

I'm using a friend's Gazelle now... I borrowed it about 6 months ago... I
really like it, but I don't like that it doesn't fold up.

Also... some others here have told me that some of the parts kind of wear
badly, so the arm and/or clamp don't continue to work quite as well as in
the beginning (but I also think the Gazelle people kindly sent replacement
parts)


Sally


Deb Milner

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On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 13:36:24 -0600, Sally <bead...@rmi.net> wrote:

>
>I wouldn't think it would take a rocket scientist to make a frame similar to
>Gazelle. If DH does any wordworking at all, he should be able to pop
>something like it together.

He does, and I think he can build me one to my specs.

>I'm using a friend's Gazelle now... I borrowed it about 6 months ago... I
>really like it, but I don't like that it doesn't fold up.

That would be one of my specs..;-)

Karen C - California

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>Wonder if DH can build me one?

I found that Daddy figured out real fast how to build anything Mom & I saw when
we mentioned the outrageous price.....


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K Polikoff

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Ginger's is one of the best LNSs in the country (ok... I am a little biased)
located in Austin TX. It is in not the BEST area of town, but it is
AWESOME... packed with all kinds of goodies. I usually pass it every
Saturday on the way home from my programming class. I usually spend too
much money in there!! I had to laugh at Victoria (she lives near me) ... we
started cross stitch about the same time and she recently posted that she
had about 10 projects for the future. I probably have AT LEAST 60 charts
that "I am gonna do soon"... my husband is just patient and doesn't say a
word!

Kristal


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> in article mfnbts4kqif8hmoum...@4ax.com, Victoria at
> ani...@austin.rr.com0 wrote on 9/30/00 6:43 AM:
>

> >> Oh gawd... Victoria! My heart is still in arrythmia after seeing the
price
> >> on those!!!!
> >

K Polikoff

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K's Creations makes some really great lap frames (and floor models for that
matter). The prices are 'relatively' reasonable - considering the price for
those things! I have several sizes and I just love mine. It folds flat, is
well made, comes with it's own little 'wing nut wrench' and is very
lightweight. They also have a lifetime gaurantee and are also located in
Austin. Service is top notch as well.

Their site is www.kscreations.com.

Usual disclaimer - no affiliation - just love the frames...

Kristal
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> On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:12:18 -0600, Sally <bead...@rmi.net> wrote:
>
> >Anyway.. I was kinda set on a lap stand.. but then I got into this mood
>
> I really like using a lap stand. Mine is a fairly cheap one I bought
> in Arlington, TX at either the Hobby Lobby or the JoAnn's there. I
> was out of town on business, had brought my WIP along (on a 23" frame)
> and thought I would be able to work on it without hauling my floor
> stand along. Well, after about 15 minutes, I was off and hunting for
> some type of stand. The one I use is very simple, with a curved piece
> of wood that slips under my legs. I've been using it for over a year
> now, and it is great for traveling.
>
> BUT, for home, I want a floor stand again, but one that is easy for me
> to use from the couch. I saw a gazelle(?) last week at my LNS and I
> WANT ONE.
>
> It will hold my chart, my work, my light, my.......
>

> <sigh> just can't afford it. Wonder if DH can build me one?

Nan Evelyn

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"Sally" <bead...@rmi.net> wrote in message
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> in article 8r3shk$73e$1...@nnrp1.deja.com, maria at mp...@my-deja.com
wrote on
> 9/29/00 11:09 PM:
<snip>

> > The only problem I have with any rods over 24" is that that seems to
be
> > the length at which the side clamp lets the project start to droop.
> > (My Ergo's clamp droops the projects from the word GO.)
>
> Hmmmm...
>
> That's kind of discouraging.
>
> The 26" project I have on it's frame now only has a 6" side bar..
maybe that
> will be light enough to avoid the droop... on the other hand.. the
24" one
> I have on right now has a 12" side bar (much heavier).
<snip>

Maria's experience with drooping has me mystified. If the clamp is
tightly holding the project, and if the lever that holds the clamp to
the L-bar is tight, I don't see how anything could droop. I just ran
upstairs and clamped the handle-tip of a three-pound skillet in the
thing and it wouldn't droop even when I pushed down on the skillet.
(Don't worry--I stood on the base to keep the whole shebang from
nosediving in the direction I was pushing!) There was no drooping, no
give at all.

You asked if the Lowery's made in the UK. Yes, it is. This info is on
the Stitchers' Paradise Website, which I meant to include in my reply
yesterday but must have left out by mistake; I'm sorry.
http://www.stitchers-paradise.com/

Nan Evelyn

Shirley Shone

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In article <B5FAC484.6849%bead...@rmi.net>, Sally <bead...@rmi.net>
writes

><snip>
>>
>> And if two parts isn't small enough, it can be disassembled further into
>> four pieces. Five, if you count the nut. (I mean the nut that attaches
>> the upright to the base, not the [stitching] nut who's carrying the
>> stand. LOL!)
>>
>> Nan
>>
>>
>
>
>So are you in love with LOWERY as well?
>
>Any downsides?
>
>Sally
>
I have not found any and I have had mine three and half years.
Shirley Shone


Sally

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>
> Maria's experience with drooping has me mystified. If the clamp is
> tightly holding the project, and if the lever that holds the clamp to
> the L-bar is tight, I don't see how anything could droop. I just ran
> upstairs and clamped the handle-tip of a three-pound skillet in the
> thing and it wouldn't droop even when I pushed down on the skillet.
> (Don't worry--I stood on the base to keep the whole shebang from
> nosediving in the direction I was pushing!) There was no drooping, no
> give at all.
>
> You asked if the Lowery's made in the UK. Yes, it is. This info is on
> the Stitchers' Paradise Website, which I meant to include in my reply
> yesterday but must have left out by mistake; I'm sorry.
> http://www.stitchers-paradise.com/
>
> Nan Evelyn

Thanks, Nan...

I appreciate you doing the "skillet test" <BG>

Sally


maria

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Nan,

I went to my forest of scrolled projects to test your theory (I'm
impressed that you embroider iron skillets. I'd love to see your
needles <BG>).

The 26 inch rods (8 inch extenders), the heavy duty diameter 30, 36 and
even the 48! held---once I'd tightened down the lever really hard.

The 36 and the 48 sag on the end due to the length, but only within 1
inch of horizontal, AND THERE IS NO SLIPPAGE in the clamp. I do not
have weights or chairs on the base and it stands with no wobble, no
instability

I am wicked impressed and even more thrilled with my Lowery than I was
before.

I don't know what I was fearing, but apparently I wasn't clamping down
hard enough. I was afraid that I would need the strength of a
Stevedore to clamp it securely enough, but nope, don't even need that.
Just afew extra (and easy) turns.

I stand corrected.

Sally, to answer your other question. In hindsight, the only thing
that would make this stand better would be a longer "L" bar. It
reaches across a 10 inch recliner arm fine now, but a longer "L" bar
(which I can order) would have been good. Other than that, you can see
that I'm discovering that this stand is better than I thought with each
day of use and discussion.

HTH

Pat Porter

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You can obtain an extra length "L" bar - if you want Lowery`s address - let
me know. I have already posted it somewhere, so you may have seen it
already.

Pat P.


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maria

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Thanks, Pat,

The label on my stand has that info and a telephone number (but not
email).

When I was first discussing the order with Wye Needlecraft, they told
me that the extra longs aren't made anymore--they increased the length
of the "standard" L bar which is now sent out with the stand. But they
would special order any length I specified. I didn't think to ask the
price at that time.

Since the L bar is a staightforward, 1/2 inch diameter stainless steel
rod, I was wondering if it would be less expensive just finding a
machine shop or some such place in the US to obtain then bend the bar
for me. Lowery's/Wye's price per inch isn't so much the issue, as the
shipping costs. Does anyone know of where such a place where I might
find these rods (and a place to bend it) in the US?

The question would then become: how long do I want the rod to be? I
don't know of a way to judge a good length--you know, the Goldilocks
syndrome: looking for "just right."

I'm open to ideas.

maria from MA

"Pat Porter" <pat.p...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> You can obtain an extra length "L" bar - if you want Lowery`s address
- let me know. I have already posted it somewhere, so you may have
seen it already.

Shirley Shone

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When I asked Lowery about an extension bar they told me it could be made
to whatever length I wanted.
Shirley. S.

In article <78uetsgjvc9g5rp0j...@4ax.com>, Victoria
<ani...@austin.rr.com0> writes
>How long is the extra length L bar? On the larger pieces I don't see a problem
>with the major field being front and center, but I do see that with smaller
>pieces I will need that extension. I believe the problem is the width of the
>arm on my chair. It is relatively overstuffed, and holds the stand far enough
>away that I will need the extension.
>
>I am wondering if I can rig something up on my own?
>
>V


>
>
>On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:09:38 +0100, "Pat Porter" <pat.p...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>You can obtain an extra length "L" bar - if you want Lowery`s address - let
>>me know. I have already posted it somewhere, so you may have seen it
>>already.
>>

>>> maria in MA
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>>> Before you buy.
>>
>
>
>

>http://www.freetibet.org

Shirley Shone


Pat Porter

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I`m sure you`d be able to get it a LOT cheaper from a machine shop than from
your supplier (and, as you say, shipping costs.) Only you can work out how
much longer you need it to be, I`d think. I`d think an extra six inches
would be plenty, and you`d still have the original one so you`d be prepared
for all eventualities!

I`ll probably be phoning Mr. Lowery tomorrow (he`s a retired Engineer who
makes them in his garage - or did do- he`s probably expanded now they`re so
successful!) He still has the same phone number though, so perhaps he IS
still a "home industry". I`m thinking of getting the side clamp, although
I`ve really had no problems with the corrner clamp, so far. I`ll ask him
about the longer "L" bar - my catalogiue still shows it, but I`ve had it for
a couple of years now.

He`s not on the internet - unless he`s recently changed!

Pat


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> Thanks, Pat,
>
> The label on my stand has that info and a telephone number (but not
> email).

Stephanie Peters

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Victoria <ani...@austin.rr.com0> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:12:18 -0600, Sally <bead...@rmi.net> wrote:
>Imagine how annoyed I am when I paid 225 for mine plus tax..
With exchange rates how they are at the moment, you may find it cheaper to
have one shipped to you by a UK shop. Try Wye Needlework
http://www.wye.co.uk
and tell Clive I sent you :-)

Sally wrote:
>All right... once I calm down.. Can you tell me how you rigged yours?

Mine has its foot under the centre of the seats of a 3 seater sofa. No need
to wedge it with anything. This means I can sit on the sofa like a chaise
longue (back against one end, legs along the sofa) and swing it round over
me, or sit on either the left or the right seat and work with the frame in
front of me.

Victoria wrote:
>It has an incredibly tight and efficient clamp...I have the side clamp, not the
>corner clamp...it is more versatile than the corner clamp.
I disagree. I have both the side clamp and the corner clamp, and use the
corner clamp more often. The corner clamp is especially good for Q snaps,
as having two sides clamped means there is no way for the round Q snap to
rotate in the clamp. Also my current piece is 20" by 16". If I use the
corner clamp, I can rotate the stretcher bars to end threads on the back of
the piece by undoing one adjustment, but keep the stretcher bars in the
clamp. With the side clamp I can't do that when I'm stitching in a reclined
position - there isn't enough room between the stitching and my tummy to
rotate it. You may have a smaller tummy :-)

Sally wrote:
>>Given it has such a small base.. do you think it would be tippy with a 26"
>>frame in use???

I've used 20" with no problem, and would expect it to be fine with 26".
Having said that, IMO the corner clamp holds large frames firmer than the
side clamp does.

Sally wrote:
>Anyway.. I was kinda set on a lap stand.. but then I got into this mood

>where I want to be able to drag it with me if I go to a friends house for
>the evening.

The Lowery is quick and easy to dismantle and mantle back up again, but it
is neither light nor small.


--
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Sally

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Hiya Stephanie...


in article 4k7fts4j3lufp3asa...@4ax.com, Stephanie Peters at
st...@sandbenders.demon.REMOVE_NOSPAM.co.uk wrote on 10/2/00 1:22 PM:


>>> Given it has such a small base.. do you think it would be tippy with a 26"
>>> frame in use???
> I've used 20" with no problem, and would expect it to be fine with 26".
> Having said that, IMO the corner clamp holds large frames firmer than the
> side clamp does.

I use the Tomorrow's Treasures wood frames... does the corner clamp only
work with frames and Q Snaps because the horizontal and vertical parts of
the frame are the same size in diameter?


>
> Sally wrote:
>> Anyway.. I was kinda set on a lap stand.. but then I got into this mood
>> where I want to be able to drag it with me if I go to a friends house for
>> the evening.
> The Lowery is quick and easy to dismantle and mantle back up again, but it
> is neither light nor small.
>

"Light" and "small" aren't really important to me at all... I just want it
to go flat... I assume it comes apart so it's not that awkward to tote
around.

Do they make a case for it? (I hate dragging out my sewing machine)

Sally


Stephanie Peters

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Sally <bead...@rmi.net> wrote:
>I use the Tomorrow's Treasures wood frames... does the corner clamp only
>work with frames and Q Snaps because the horizontal and vertical parts of
>the frame are the same size in diameter?
The corner clamp is one diagonal clamp, so the same bits of metal close on
the horizontal and vertical parts of the frame.

>Do they make a case for it? (I hate dragging out my sewing machine)

Lowery don't and I've never seen anyone else do so.

CandyCorr

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Hi Steph & Sally,

Lowery might not make a carrying case, but in preparation for the EGA seminar
my LNS owner and I took my stand down and determined that all the pieces fit
very comfortable in a small scroll frame tote, size approximately 20"long x
14"wide. This will meet the airline regulations for carry-on.

Candy

Sally

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in article d76itsgn5rm7clbqu...@4ax.com, Stephanie Peters at
st...@sandbenders.demon.REMOVE_NOSPAM.co.uk wrote on 10/2/00 5:25 PM:

>> I use the Tomorrow's Treasures wood frames... does the corner clamp only
>> work with frames and Q Snaps because the horizontal and vertical parts of
>> the frame are the same size in diameter?
> The corner clamp is one diagonal clamp, so the same bits of metal close on
> the horizontal and vertical parts of the frame.


So will the corner clamp work if the horizontal (scroll rod holding fabric)
and the vertical (wood side bar) are different diameters?

Sally


Sally

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in article 20001002200531...@ng-fi1.aol.com, CandyCorr at
cand...@aol.com wrote on 10/2/00 6:05 PM:

Thanks Candy

Sally


Sally

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in article ts2ktsgq0a88d7vv5...@4ax.com, Victoria at
ani...@austin.rr.com0 wrote on 10/3/00 10:39 AM:

> On Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:17:49 -0600, Sally <bead...@rmi.net> wrote:
>
>> in article d76itsgn5rm7clbqu...@4ax.com, Stephanie Peters at
>> st...@sandbenders.demon.REMOVE_NOSPAM.co.uk wrote on 10/2/00 5:25 PM:
>>

>>>> I use the Tomorrow's Treasures wood frames... does the corner clamp only
>>>> work with frames and Q Snaps because the horizontal and vertical parts of
>>>> the frame are the same size in diameter?
>>> The corner clamp is one diagonal clamp, so the same bits of metal close on
>>> the horizontal and vertical parts of the frame.
>>
>>

>> So will the corner clamp work if the horizontal (scroll rod holding fabric)
>> and the vertical (wood side bar) are different diameters?
>>
>> Sally
>

> It will only clamp onto the larger sized diameter...if the Lowery is what you
> are asking about. You probably can rig something for the clamp to "catch" the
> diameter of the smaller rod...some sort of shim.
>
> victoria

That makes sense to me... it just didn't seem the corner clamp would be an
option with TT frames.

Sally


Shirley Shone

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In article <ts2ktsgq0a88d7vv5...@4ax.com>, Victoria
<ani...@austin.rr.com0> writes

>On Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:17:49 -0600, Sally <bead...@rmi.net> wrote:
>
>>in article d76itsgn5rm7clbqu...@4ax.com, Stephanie Peters at
>>st...@sandbenders.demon.REMOVE_NOSPAM.co.uk wrote on 10/2/00 5:25 PM:
>>
>>>> I use the Tomorrow's Treasures wood frames... does the corner clamp only
>>>> work with frames and Q Snaps because the horizontal and vertical parts of
>>>> the frame are the same size in diameter?
>>> The corner clamp is one diagonal clamp, so the same bits of metal close on
>>> the horizontal and vertical parts of the frame.
>>
>>
>>So will the corner clamp work if the horizontal (scroll rod holding fabric)
>>and the vertical (wood side bar) are different diameters?
>>
>>Sally
>
>It will only clamp onto the larger sized diameter...if the Lowery is what you
>are asking about. You probably can rig something for the clamp to "catch" the
>diameter of the smaller rod...some sort of shim.
>
>victoria
>
>
>http://www.freetibet.org

The corner clamp does adjust to a slightly different size in between
side bars and rods. I have just checked mine out. The piece of metal
that you tighten up is not totally fixed, it as a little movement in it
to allow for the difference in thickness.
If my fabric is likely to go inside the clamp I fold some tissue hankies
over the corner of the frame before I clamp it in to avoid any marks.

I have used scroll frames, Q-snaps, hoops and apiece of wood as a lace
table for holding my lace pillow in the corner clamp. Lowery do sell a
table for lace pillows but my DH made me one.
He hollowed one side out to make a beading tray so I do not scatter
beads all around.
I do all these things sat in a reclining chair.
HTH.
Shirley Shone


Pat Porter

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They ought to make a badge for we Lowery Lovers!

Pat P.

Victoria wrote > I LOVE MY LOWERY! That's all I can say.
>
> V
>
>
> http://www.freetibet.org

Sue Tingle

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Stephanie Peters <st...@sandbenders.demon.REMOVE_NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in
message news:4k7fts4j3lufp3asa...@4ax.com...
> >>Given it has such a small base.. do you think it would be tippy with a
26"
> >>frame in use???
> I've used 20" with no problem, and would expect it to be fine with 26".
> Having said that, IMO the corner clamp holds large frames firmer than the
> side clamp does.
>
> Sally wrote:
> >Anyway.. I was kinda set on a lap stand.. but then I got into this mood
> >where I want to be able to drag it with me if I go to a friends house for
> >the evening.
> The Lowery is quick and easy to dismantle and mantle back up again, but it
> is neither light nor small.
>
>
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