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kbe...@creighton.edu

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Oct 16, 2001, 12:44:19 PM10/16/01
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Hi,

Has anyone here stitched anything in birthday plaid?
The kind of thing, where, for instance, if a birthday
was 3-4-56 the plaid would consist of 3 threads, then
4, then five, then six. We're wondering what you
do when the birthday is 3-10-56, or, for new babies
when it's 6-10-01. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Katherine in Omaha

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PaulaB

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> Hi,
>
> Has anyone here stitched anything in birthday plaid?
> The kind of thing, where, for instance, if a birthday
> was 3-4-56 the plaid would consist of 3 threads, then
> 4, then five, then six. We're wondering what you
> do when the birthday is 3-10-56, or, for new babies
> when it's 6-10-01. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Katherine in Omaha
>
Hi, Katherine - I never heard of this before but it sounds really
neat!! Are there pics somewhere? Does someone design this or is this
something you came up with??
For the zeroes, you could have another color (black or white come to
mind) for them, or you could actually stitch ten threads. I assume
we're talking about narrow stripes...if I could see a picture it would
help. This just sounds so neat! Paula B.

Spring Pam

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Oct 17, 2001, 12:18:45 AM10/17/01
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Katherine,

I have done the "date plaid" as you wrote about. We did it as monthly
meeting project at our EGA chapter. Our yearly theme was trip around the
world and the play at a plaid represented Scotland. It was fun, and is
equally applicable to dates like wedding dates etc. I chose the colours
that I and my husband like and created a special Thompson plaid (or tartan
as his British-ness often corrects me)

If a date had a ten...I would just use 10 threads, a date with a one might
be neat to have just one thread of a gold or silver fine or very fine braid
as an accent or a very standout bright colour.

There are no exact rules to this exercise, but it is amazingly fun and gives
a good experience at colour play and how threads can look totally different
when they are next to other colours or tweeded as the plaid process almost
does.

Cheers, Pam.

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Cartermrc

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Oct 17, 2001, 3:06:45 AM10/17/01
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Oh gee I'm no help here, my needlepoint guild had a program on this in the 80's
& I was so totally not getting it, it was laughable. I still haven't really
figured it out. Only thing about stitchery that really stumped me.
Cindy in Oregon

Bess

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Oct 17, 2001, 9:29:46 AM10/17/01
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kbe...@creighton.edu wrote:

> Has anyone here stitched anything in birthday plaid?

What a neat idea. If one assigned one color floss to each of ten numbers (0-9)
and went from there, one could make a really neat family project. The family
tartan would be mom & dad's anniversary. The rest would be based on birthdays.
Love it!

Best Stitches,
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EGNeedler

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Oct 17, 2001, 10:27:13 AM10/17/01
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> if a birthday
>> was 3-4-56 the plaid would consist of 3 threads, then
>> 4, then five, then six. We're wondering what you
>> do when the birthday is 3-10-56, or, for new babies
>> when it's 6-10-01. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Katherine in Omaha
>>
>Hi, Katherine - I never heard of this before but it sounds really
>neat!! Are there pics somewhere? Does someone design this or is this
>something you came up with??
>For the zeroes, you could have

> if a birthday
>> was 3-4-56 the plaid would consist of 3 threads, then
>> 4, then five, then six. We're wondering what you
>> do when the birthday is 3-10-56, or, for new babies
>> when it's 6-10-01. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Katherine in Omaha

Marion Broome Pakula says in her book, New Ideas for Needlepointers(1976),
"To make a needlepoint number pattern from the date, take the month, day and
year: XX XX XXXX. An example is November 9, 1974. The needlepoint number
pattern for this date would be 11-9-1-9-7-4. If you have a zero in your date,
replace it with a 10. November 9, 1970 would have a pattern of 11-9-1-9-7-10.

If your 'day' number is more than 20, you may want to split the number
separating it into two sections (23 could be 2-3). Otherwise you will have a
very large area covered by this one number. For instance, use the date of July
31, 1974. Instead of 7-31-1-9-7-4 it could be 7-3-1-1-9-7-4."

I hope this helps to answer your question and have fun with your project. I
have made several pillows for friends using the birthdate plaid and they were
quite impressed. By the way, these pillows that I did were in needlepoint, not
cross stitch.

Eleanor the Elder

Judy Bay

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Oct 17, 2001, 2:16:57 PM10/17/01
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Yeah, but how do you stitch this? What pattern? I'm still not getting
this.

kbe...@creighton.edu

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Oct 17, 2001, 2:43:00 PM10/17/01
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Hi,

Thanks to everyone at RCTN for the answers. The
idea, which I didn't explain very well, is to pick
several colors of thread. Let's say pink, blue, green,
yellow, white for a spring birthday of 4/5/1956.

Pink = 4
Blue = 5
Green = 1
Yellow = 9
White 6

To get the plaid effect, in needlepoint you would stitch
four rows of pink in tent stitches, skipping every other hole.
Each row is offset to the one that came before:

/ / / / / / / /
/ / / / / / / /
/ / / / / / /
/ / / / / / / /
Then five rows of blue, one of green, nine of yellow and six
of white.

Now repeat the same pattern (four of pink, five rows of blue, etc.)
going vertically. This will fill in the stitched you skipped before.
The result will be a plaid. You choose the colors, and the size of
the plaid sections is based on the date. Where we got into trouble
was when there were zeroes in the date, like 10/1/2001.

Thanks again for the help, RCTN

Judy Bay

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Oct 17, 2001, 3:02:56 PM10/17/01
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THANK you!! Now I get it! I will print this & try it!

Joanna A. Baleson

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Oct 19, 2001, 2:55:55 PM10/19/01
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Our EGA chapter did it as a heart shape and assigned each letter of the
alphabet a number from 1 to 9 and then you spelled your name and made a
plaid that way instead of using your birthdate. Is that clear as mud?
Anyway, It really looked cool and Kelly Kersten designed the heart and
program for us.

Joanna B.


Steph Peters

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Oct 22, 2001, 5:42:41 PM10/22/01
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<kbe...@creighton.edu> wrote:
>Has anyone here stitched anything in birthday plaid?
>The kind of thing, where, for instance, if a birthday
>was 3-4-56 the plaid would consist of 3 threads, then
>4, then five, then six. We're wondering what you
>do when the birthday is 3-10-56, or, for new babies
>when it's 6-10-01. Any ideas?

Instructions and a picture of one here:
http://needlepoint.about.com/library/weekly/aa060499.htm

I've got a 1970's book with this in which suggests using 10 threads for the
0's. Depending on the date you have, that can make for a very large repeat.
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Allura nee Gwendolyn nee Veren

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:14:29 PM10/22/01
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Ack! The middle graphic is from something else. I'm having a hard time
understand this idea.....

Joanna
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Oct 22, 2001, 9:32:13 PM10/22/01
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>Instructions and a picture of one here:
>http://needlepoint.about.com/library/weekly/aa060499.htm

I went to the site. I read the instructions. I am brain dead. Adding the
name makes NO sense to me at all. I understand how you graph the date
(verticle lines) alone. I understand how you graph the name (horizontal lines)
alone. I DO NOT understand how you go about combining them into one plaid. I
think it's like learning chess for me -- wayyyyy too technical. I am not dumb,
stupid, uneducated, etc. I can usually understand just about anything that is
explained to me. This one has me stumped.
When graphing out the date, I don't understand how you determine WHICH areas
you will leave blank to accommodate the name. To me, the upper left stitch
would have to be part of either the date line or part of the name line. What
are the rules or guidelines? Did I miss that part in the directions? Is this
making sense to anyone else besides me -- LOLOL??? CiaoMeow >^;;^<
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Lauren Kuik

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:45:12 PM10/22/01
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Thanks for posting this, Steph. I want to make one for my Mom's birthday
(12/5). I tried charting one from the directions in one of the original
emails but did not "offset" the stitches on the first set of stitches so it
didn't look like a plaid (oops!).
This article is very helpful and I will set out to chart one per the link.
Thanks again.
Lauren
St. Pete, FL

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FKBABB

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Oct 22, 2001, 10:57:17 PM10/22/01
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<< When graphing out the date, I don't understand how you determine WHICH areas
you will leave blank to accommodate the name. To me, the upper left stitch
would have to be part of either the date line or part of the name line. What
are the rules or guidelines? >>

I tried a date plaid this weekend, based on the earlier information posted
here, and it worked out beautifully -- a very clever idea. The important thing
to remember is that for each row -- horizontally and vertically -- you fill in
only every other stitch -- kind of like making a checkerboard (or, perhaps seed
stitch in knitting). So, when you do your horizontal rows, it will look like
this (X = stich,
0 = skipped stitch):

XOXOXOXO
OXOXOXOX
XOXOXOXO
OXOXOXOX
etc.

The vertical rows are then stitched in the spaces, the "O's". The first stitch
of the first vertical row, then is in the first space of the second row of the
grid you are making.

Hope this helps.

Annie


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Oct 23, 2001, 7:59:39 AM10/23/01
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>From: fkb...@aol.com (FKBABB)

>The important thing
>to remember is that for each row -- horizontally and vertically -- you fill
>in
>only every other stitch -- kind of like making a checkerboard (or, perhaps
seed
>stitch in knitting). So, when you do your horizontal rows, it will look like
>this (X = stich,
>0 = skipped stitch):
>
>XOXOXOXO
>OXOXOXOX
>XOXOXOXO

AH HA!!! NOW wasn't that esy to explain??? I didn't see that explaination
anywhere on the site! I thought it must be something like that but it didn't
SAY in those nice, clear, simple terms!!!!!! Thank you Annie -- makes perfect
sense when you think about it logically! That *logically* part is most likely
the problem I have been having :-))). Of course I also have the world's best
20-20 hindsight -- LOLOL! CiaoMeow >^;;^<

Elizabeth

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> >st...@andbenders.demon.co.uk.invaliid
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> >Instructions and a picture of one here:
> >http://needlepoint.about.com/library/weekly/aa060499.htm
>
> I went to the site. I read the instructions. I am brain dead. Adding the
> name makes NO sense to me at all. I understand how you graph the date
> (verticle lines) alone. I understand how you graph the name (horizontal lines)
> alone. I DO NOT understand how you go about combining them into one plaid. > <<snip>>

Tia Mary,

As someone else pointed out, when you stitch the first direction, you
skip every other stitch (x = stitch, o = skipped spot):

x o x o x o x

The second row is similar, but starts with a skip:

o x o x o x o

Then the third row is like the first:

x o x o x o x

and so on. You work the appropriate number of rows in each color for
the date you're dealing with, always alternating starting with a
stitch or a skip. When you've finished the 'date' rows, you'll have a
space filled with alternating worked and skipped stitches, with color
bands in horizontal stripes.

Now, you go back and fill in the skips, working bands vertically for
the name:

p z p z
z p z p
p z p z
z p z p
p z p z
z p z p
p z p z
z p z p

where p = previous stitch and z = new stitch. You would work the
appropriate number of _columns_ this time for each letter (or digit if
you did the date both ways).

Since you've stitched bands of different colors both horizontally and
vertically, where the rows and columns cross, it forms a plaid. It
won't be an _even_ plaid, but that's sort of the point.

Just as an example, I've done my initials (EAM) and my birthday (5/16)
in three colors each way. First, work the initials in horizontal
rows:

e e e e e e
e e e e e e
e e e e e e
e e e e e e
e e e e e e
a a a a a a
m m m m m m
m m m m m m
m m m m m m
m m m m m m

The date would look like this by itself (working vertical columns):

5 5 1 6 6 6
5 5 5 6 6 6
5 5 1 6 6 6
5 5 5 6 6 6
5 5 1 6 6 6
5 5 5 6 6 6
5 5 1 6 6 6
5 5 5 6 6 6
5 5 1 6 6 6
5 5 5 6 6 6

Together, you'd get:

e 5 e 5 e 1 e 6 e 6 e 6
5 e 5 e 5 e 6 e 6 e 6 e
e 5 e 5 e 1 e 6 e 6 e 6
5 e 5 e 5 e 6 e 6 e 6 e
e 5 e 5 e 1 e 6 e 6 e 6
5 a 5 a 5 a 6 a 6 a 6 a
m 5 m 5 m 1 m 6 m 6 m 6
5 m 5 m 5 m 6 m 6 m 6 m
m 5 m 5 m 1 m 6 m 6 m 6
5 m 5 m 5 m 6 m 6 m 6 m

It's hard to see in symbols, but it will form a plaid. Using the
_same_ three colors each direction, and working two sequences each
way, you'd get:

x x x x x ' x # x # x # x x x x x ' x # x # x #
x x x x x x # x # x # x x x x x x x # x # x # x
x x x x x ' x # x # x # x x x x x ' x # x # x #
x x x x x x # x # x # x x x x x x x # x # x # x
x x x x x ' x # x # x # x x x x x ' x # x # x #
x ' x ' x ' # ' # ' # ' x ' x ' x ' # ' # ' # '
# x # x # ' # # # # # # # x # x # ' # # # # # #
x # x # x # # # # # # # x # x # x # # # # # # #
# x # x # ' # # # # # # # x # x # ' # # # # # #
x # x # x # # # # # # # x # x # x # # # # # # #
x x x x x ' x # x # x # x x x x x ' x # x # x #
x x x x x x # x # x # x x x x x x x # x # x # x
x x x x x ' x # x # x # x x x x x ' x # x # x #
x x x x x x # x # x # x x x x x x x # x # x # x
x x x x x ' x # x # x # x x x x x ' x # x # x #
x ' x ' x ' # ' # ' # ' x ' x ' x ' # ' # ' # '
# x # x # ' # # # # # # # x # x # ' # # # # # #
x # x # x # # # # # # # x # x # x # # # # # # #
# x # x # ' # # # # # # # x # x # ' # # # # # #
x # x # x # # # # # # # x # x # x # # # # # # #

which you can see as a plaid if you back off a little and squint. :-)
Work as many sequences in each direction as you need to fill your
space, compensating at the edges if they're curvy.

HTH.

-- Elizabeth

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Oct 23, 2001, 4:26:24 PM10/23/01
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When I went to the site for the directions, the diagram of the graphed stuff
had ALL of the stitches filled for the date and then ALL of the stitches filled
for the name -- this is when graphed out. So I was wondering, if you fill up
all of the stitches on the GRAPH with the date, just *where* are you suposed to
put the stitches for the name???
Maybe further down in the directions it explained the part about only
*stitching* every other stitch in the date and also off setting the second row,
etc. Once THAT was pointed out to me, it was one of those "eureka" moments in
time when the whole thing finally clicked into place and made sense! I was
starting to be serioussly concerned about the efficiency of my brain cells --

Lauren Kuik

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Oct 23, 2001, 7:03:32 PM10/23/01
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The first chart (shown after the first paragraph under Designing the Plaid)
is only the horizontal stitches charted. The other lines are supposed to be
the grid.
The second chart (under the paragraph below the little picture) shows both
the horizontal and vertical stitches.
The difference between the birthday plaid and the birthday/name plaid is
that the vertical rows will be the same as the horizontal rows for a
birthday plaid while the vertical rows will be different when you add the
name.
HTH
I started the one for my Mom using 1 ply of DMC rayon on 32 ct linen. I like
the way the horizontal rows are looking and now wonder if I will do the
vertical rows in the same sequence (making a birthday plaid only) or if I
will stitch the name as I have charted it. I'll post a pic in picturetrail
when I'm done.
Lauren
St. Pete, FL

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Steph Peters

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catwo...@aol.comnekoluvr (Tia Mary-remove nekoluvr to reply ) wrote:

> quoting me:
>
>>Instructions and a picture of one here:
>>http://needlepoint.about.com/library/weekly/aa060499.htm
>
> I went to the site. I read the instructions. I am brain dead. Adding the
>name makes NO sense to me at all.

Sorry, I didn't say I'd done this. Just remembered seeing it, and with a
vague idea where I was able to search for it.

BTW these birthday plaids are also often referred to as Chottie's plaids,
after Chottie Alderson. I assume she started the idea, but I don't know for
sure.
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Teal Elliott

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Dec 7, 2022, 3:57:17 PM12/7/22
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Typically, a backstitch is used for a zero. It gets sticky when you need two zeros side by side.

Crafty

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Feb 8, 2023, 4:45:05 PM2/8/23
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Yes, stitching birthday plaid is a unique and personalized way to celebrate a special occasion. When faced with a birthday like 3-10-56, you can stitch three threads, then ten threads, and finally six threads. For a birthdate like 6-10-01, you can stitch six threads, then ten threads, and finally one thread.

If the number of threads needed is too large for your pattern, you can adjust the size of the stitches or consider using a smaller count fabric to accommodate the extra threads. You can also consider using a contrasting color for the ten threads to help distinguish them from the others.

Remember, when stitching a birthday plaid, the goal is to make a keepsake that is special and meaningful to the recipient. Don't be afraid to get creative and make changes to the design to make it your own. The result will be a one-of-a-kind, handmade gift that will be treasured for years to come.

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