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MaryAnne Toonders

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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I have a chart that calls for some 755 coton a broder. When I asked at
my LNS I was told that this was the same as DMC 755. Is this true or is
it another type of thread?


MaryAnne

Judith Miller

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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If it is DMC coton a broder, the color number is the same. The thread,
however, is a not floss. It is a different thread.
--

Judith Miller
Madison, WI

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Dianne Lewandowski

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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MaryAnne: coton a broder means embroidery cotton. DMC 755 is Mouline
Special coton a broder. this means special cotton embroidery floss
from DMC. Yes. DMC 755 is the same as coton a broder 755.

There ARE other types of coton a broder (floche and other specialty
embroidery cottons). But your LNS is correct.

My only caution would be are you certain it is DMC. It could be
Anchor or a different brand. I haven't seen the chart you have, so
DMC may be the brand required.

Dianne

Ruthann Biel

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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In article <35B4FF85...@sympatico.ca>,

MaryAnne Toonders <m.too...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
" I have a chart that calls for some 755 coton a broder. When I asked at
" my LNS I was told that this was the same as DMC 755. Is this true or is
" it another type of thread?
"
"
" MaryAnne

Since it is a DMC color, the color number stay mostly constant across
their product line. However coton a broder is not the same product
as DMC stranded floss. It is not usually separated into strands but
worked as one thread, much the same way pearl cotton is used. It is
lovely stuff to work with. I used it when I took a class in Ukranian
embroidery.

Two places to get it that I know of:

The Embroidery stop, 1042 Victory Dr, Yardley PA 19067
215-493-1640

Jan Walters, 402 Pattee Canyon Drive, Missoula, MT 59803-1623
406-721-1950

I haven't heard that Nordic Needle has it yet, but they are at
1-800-433-4321.

--
RuthAnn Biel | Mother. Unschooler. Stitcher.
r...@woozle.Emp.Unify.Com |-------------------------------------
+1 916 381 4205 | Sacramento, California

LadyDoc

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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MaryAnne Toonders wrote:
>
> I have a chart that calls for some 755 coton a broder. When I asked at
> my LNS I was told that this was the same as DMC 755. Is this true or is
> it another type of thread?
>
> MaryAnne

Dear MaryAnne:

It is not the same. The term coton a broder does cause some confusion
however. If you ask for DMC Briliant Cutwork/Embroidery thread you will
get what you want.

Sometimes you can get it by asking for it by size- coton a broder comes
in sizes 12 and 16.

Herrschners carries it. Some needlework shops do also.

I am currently working with it on a round robin with an eastern European
theme- it is really nice to work with- s texture somewhat like flower
thread.

Hope this helps.

teresa/LadyDoc

Nicholas and Roberta Earley

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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ditto to Ruthanne comments
Roberta

Dianne Lewandowski

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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Coton a broder comes in more sizes than 12 and 16. Yes, it is used as
a single thread, unlike Mouline Special, which is 6 strands.

Herschnerr's is a good source for the above sizes in the DMC line.
The chart, however, should stipulate size as well as brand, not just
coton a broder. (For instance, I have Anchor coton a broder in sizes
35 and 40). AND, I have seen charts that use the term coton a broder
and they MEAN Mouline Special.

Dianne

Heather

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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>Since it is a DMC color, the color number stay mostly constant across
>their product line. However coton a broder is not the same product
>as DMC stranded floss. It is not usually separated into strands but
>worked as one thread, much the same way pearl cotton is used. It is
>lovely stuff to work with. I used it when I took a class in Ukranian
>embroidery.


The label on DMC 6 strand floss says: "Mouline Special Coton a Broder."
Hunting down my English-French dictionary... ?(mill) special embroidery
cotton. Embroidery cotton is what floss is really called, at least in
Canada...

Checking DMC's page, Floche seems to be the only thing (besides Pearl
Cotton, and those awful metallic on the spool) that can't be pulled apart
into strands.

I also went over to the French page (wish I paid more attention in high
school French...) Nothing is listed as specifically as cotton a broder.
The 6 strand floss is listed as Mouline.

My guess would be that cotton a broder is the regular 6 strand stuff.

Heather

Tinas341

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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What is the real difference between coton a broder and perle cotton? I have
seen them both and they look the same except that perle cotton looks shinier.

Also, what are the main uses for coton a broder as opposed to using regular
floss or perle cotton? Can someone give me some examples? Thanks

Tina
Charted Treasures


Dorita Menconi

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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MaryAnne Toonders wrote:
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> I have a chart that calls for some 755 coton a broder. When I asked at
> my LNS I was told that this was the same as DMC 755. Is this true or is
> it another type of thread?
>
> MaryAnne

I have a chart that called for white coton a broder but specified a
thickness of 16. I didn't know what that meant so I asked at my
not-so-local LNS (would that be NSLNS?) and they came up with the
correct thread. As others have stated, if a thickness is specified,
it is a single stranded thread and comes in colors corresponding to
the six stranded floss. I too noticed that this is not on their web
site. The ladies at the shop I bought this from are very helpful and
knowledgeable. If you want their address, let me know and I will post
it.

Dorita
--
"There are no punishment or rewards, only consequences."

--David & Leigh Eddings

Dianne Lewandowski

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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Tina, the very fine weight (35 and 40) coton a broder is used in
Ayshire needlework, broderie Anglaise, and similar styles. These
styles have padded satin stitch, eyelets. They also have drawn and
pulled thread and needlelace but that is not worked with coton a
broder. Many slavik nations use the heavier weight coton a broder
(12, 16, 25) for satin stitching. No. 35 is often used for cutwork -
another heavily padded stitch. This type of thread can be used
twisted or untwisted and when used with a laying tool creates a lovely
flat surface that covers over any padding, etc. It is wonderful to
use.

Floche is made slightly differently, but is similar to coton a broder.

Perle coton also is entirely different, both in the number of plies
put together to make a strand, and the way it is manufacturered and
twisted. It has a round shape that you keep round when stitching.
Coton a broder can be used in its somewhat round shape or made to lie
flat.

Dianne

Dianne

Kim Brown

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Jul 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/23/98
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The very first 'real' stitching project I did was at school in 1963. We
were required to have one yard of Indian Headcloth and four skeins of
Anchor coton a broder in different colours. And a large crewel needle. A
darling old Nun taught us Running Stitch, Pattern Darning, Lazy Daisy
Stitch, Stem Stitch and so on. We made a really gorgeous sampler of
stitches that was kept up for the two years we were in Sister's class.

Looking back, it was such a good idea to use coton a broder on a fairly
coarsely woven fabric: it was much easier for little hands to manage and
to get a pretty result without worrying about strands and the way
threads lay.

The coton a broder was somewhere between flower thread and floche in
thickness. I don't think I've seen anything similar lately, although I
do collect what my LNS calls 'DMC Soft Cottons' for needlepoint. Maybe
that's what everyone else calls 'floche'...?

Hang on: I'll just run and see what the label says...

Er der! Dumbo me forgot that all her stuff is wound on bobbins! But the
stuff we call 'Soft Cotton' would be a tad thicker than perle cotton and
more brushed than polished: it has a lovely plush texture and the
colours (equivalent to the normal DMC range) are lovely. It would not be
thick enough to cover 12 count canvas...

Anyway HTH

Trish {|:O}

MaryAnne Toonders

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Jul 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/23/98
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Thanks to everyone for all the information. I've been able to figure out
what I'll need and will probably be able to find it at the LNS now that
I know what I'm talking about - No 16 single ply cotton.

MaryAnne

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