Printing your own coordinating papers
Rach
but I have just realized that by using acid free paper, I can create and
print my own scrapbooking paper! It's really fun and easy!
I have created papers I just like, but I have also created papers
specifically for a certain page. On the page below, I designed and printed
all the matting (printed) papers to coordinate to the page.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Storyteller/scrapbook/babyboy.jpg
I scanned and fixed my pics first. They are from when DS Jason was born in
1981, and I had to deal with the REALLY hideous colors of the time, so I did
an edge seeking select around the people, inverted the selection, and
applied a black and white film filter to turn the entire background black
and white. That eliminated the nasty green and gold but isn't even
particularly noticeable. It also emphasizes the subject.
Then I used the Color Picker in PSP to select two good colors from the shirt
I have on, since they were good baby colors, and used those, along with some
brushes, to create the paper. I made sure I had acid free paper in the
printer and printed out the sheets. It really works well with pastels. I
still need to experiment with darker colors.
Every once in a while, I stumble on a good idea. LOL One day, I'll catch up
with the wonderful things you all do! LOL
Hugs,
Rach
King's Crown
really nice. Great LO.
Lynne
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Rach
times you have a great pic with good colors and the background is HORRIBLE.
This is the best solution I have come up with to handle the situation.
Hugs,
Rach
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Karen AKA Kajikit
>I made a wonderful discovery the other day. I'm a bit slow, as you all know,
>but I have just realized that by using acid free paper, I can create and
>print my own scrapbooking paper! It's really fun and easy!
(snip)
>Every once in a while, I stumble on a good idea. LOL One day, I'll catch up
>with the wonderful things you all do! LOL
>
It looks great Rach! You don't even notice that the background is b&w
- it's very subtle :)
I don't print my own papers because I don't have a colour printer...
but I'm not sure it's economical (my mother wouldn't ever let me use
her colour printer except for photos because the ink was too expensive
:( ) but I guess it lets you make something EXACTLY what you want it
to be...
Scout Lady
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>really nice. Great LO.
>
black and white?
Cathy
like the page.
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Deb in AR
and white, but that's a great idea! I'll have to try that sometime. The LO
looks darling. Love the paper, and even better that you printed it. :-)
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JulieF
background idea for when I decide to scan photos from my childhood.
Not only do most of the photos just have an orange tinge (probably a
combination of cheap film and unsafe albums), but it was the 70s! LOL.
None of the backgrounds could possibly be good in that scenario. :-)
I especially love the idea because once the background is neutralized,
I can really concentrate on the color correction of the subjects.
Julie
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Linda C
it. I have heard so many things about it. Thats a really cool B&W
technique! I have printed some pictures with my inkjet printer, and
I've noticed a little fading. Do you have any problems with that?
I would love to be able to create papers, but the darn ink is SO
expensive!
Thanks for sharing your ideas!
Linda
Rach
are black and white, but it's very very subtle.
Hugs,
Rach
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Rach
specific for a page.
You're right. It could be expensive if you did it too much.
Hugs,
Rach
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Rach
That's why I eliminated them. I also had what was possibly THE ugliest sofa
ever built by the hand of man, so I have to work around that, too. LOL
Hugs,
Rach
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Rach
not.
I don't have a problem with the pics I print fading. My son has some ship
pics I printed 6 or 7 years ago hanging in his apartment and they are still
as bright as ever.
Hugs,
Rach
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Autumn
think about before printing like this. Even on titles for things.
I bought an Epson archival printer and I am very cheap with it because the 7
ink cartridges average about $12-$13 each. Even though your pictures have
not faded over a period of 5-6 years, will they last 30+ years when your son
is grown up? I have been VERY careful about this. I used to work at the
elementary school and they had some awards that were framed on the wall and
there was nothing left of them after a few years.
I personally want my great grandchildren to be able to look at my ablums. I
have put all this work into them, as well as money and I want them to last.
I just think it is something to think about. Since I research the family
tree I am very aware of this and that is why I was willing to buy a printer
that has archivel ink.
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/
This web site has a lot of information about these things.
Sincerely,
Autumn
Hebee Jeebes
most of the stuff in a scrapbook gets very little light exposure (unless you
are opening and looking at it for years on end, which I don't think most
people do. They get it done and then it gets put away and is only brought
out every once in a while) regular dye based printers will do just fine.
They are also cheaper in the ink department. Especially if you can get third
party inks for it. I use a Canon i9100 and get third party inks. I can print
a glossy 4x6 including paper and ink for less than $.10 a print. I have had
no problems with this as far as fading or otherwise.
It is also important to understand that when a printer company claims
archival that that is with museum quality storage of the item. Which isn't
even close to what people have at home. Read the fine print. It also is
based on faked tests. Basically they do accelerated light tests to see how
long something is supposed to last. But, since this isn't real world I don't
trust their results. The only results I trust as ones that are offered under
real world storage and light and since printer companies don't do that their
claims of 200 years for print life is worthless. I how do they know for real
that applying 10,000 watts of light to a print for 5 hours is like the same
amount of light it would get over 20 years? They don't, they don't have a 20
year old print to compare it to. They are guessing.
The other problem is that prints are cheap, the companies actually loose
money on printers. But, they get you with the ink and paper. For "archival"
you have to their ink and only certain types of their paper (read the fine
print). So, the ink cartridges are tiny and the paper is expensive and can
be hard to come by.
To combat all of this I have my digital camera images processed like film
using chemicals on to photo paper that away I have photos with the same life
as a regular film processed image. I don't print them on my inkjet unless I
just want something that is going to last a few years. For scrapbooks this
is not the case. For other scrapbook things like headings, background
papers, etc. I print on art paper, like sheets from a pad of watercolor
paper. These are designed for the wet ink, they are a lot more archival then
copy or laser printer or inkjet paper you would get at say Office Depot and
they are much cheaper and are heavier.
In the end nothing lasts for every and while acid free and lignin (sp?) free
stuff is important to squeeze every hour of life from your stuff I really
doubt if any of this stuff will last more than 50 years and I think that is
a stretch and this does include the archival inkjet prints.
I would look for a printer that is affordable, has large ink tanks, 3rd
party inks and one that can handle the art paper. This way you can use it
affordably. Also, if you want to print 12"x12" you will need one of the
large format ones that can print 13"x19".
Robert
Sandy
cardstock to print on, or vellum. I hope that it will last.
Sandy
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Autumn
You can also download a free book (pdf) called "The Permanence and Care of Color Photographs: Traditional and Digital Color Prints, Color Negatives, Slides, and Motion Pictures"
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/pdf/HW_Book_758_Pages_HiRes_v1a.pdf
Here is the first paragraph from the "About Us" page of the website.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Henry Wilhelm and Carol Brower Wilhelm
Wilhelm Imaging Research, Inc. <www.wilhelm-research.com> conducts research on the stability and preservation of traditional and digital color photographs and motion pictures. The company publishes brand name-specific permanence data for desktop and large-format inkjet printers and other digital printing devices. Wilhelm Imaging Research also provides consulting services to museums, archives, and commercial collections on sub-zero cold storage for the very long term preservation of still photographs and motion pictures.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The decisions you make reguarding this are your own choice. :-)
Hebee Jeebes
light it should last. The good quality paper, which doesn't mean high end
photo paper, but paper that is acid free should help especially in the color
shift areas. You can also spray with a protective spray or laminate it too
which will help.
I have several prints that I heat laminated (not on glossy paper, it will
bubble from the heat) and they look just as good now as they did when I
printed them 5 years ago. And, they hang on the wall so laminating should
help. It keeps the air away and keeps some frequencies of light from getting
through completely in tack.
Robert
Hebee Jeebes
Inkjet printers have not been around for 100 or 200 years. They haven't even
been around 20 years (at least not for consumers).
Besides the long archival life spans for inkjet printers is not the first
time long life spans have been promised. CDs for the longest time were
touted by their manufacturers that they had a life span of 100 years or
longer and these were based on faked tests as well. Now they freely admit
that they have a life span much less than that. Basically less than 10 years
if that. Cheaper media dies quicker but even the best brand names don't
last.
Also, as I said if you read the fine print for their archival claims it is
basically if the image is stored and/or displayed in museum conditions
meaning, certain light conditions, temperature conditions, humidity and even
sometimes in airless environments (vacuum vaults or frames). Any other
display or storage conditions means a much shorter life span. Basically, you
need storage conditions that no consumer could meet without spending 100,000
to redo their homes.
It is all marketing hype and since one can't prove them right or wrong since
no one has a 100 year old inkjet print they can claim what they like and not
have to worry about being taken to court.
They just want people to replace their as often as they can get people to.
They want consumers to ignore the fact that the cost per print for today's
printers have increased nearly 5000% over what they were 5 years ago because
they are charging much more for these "special" inks and papers and giving
less of them (they size of ink cartridges have shrunk considerably and not
just because they are including more colors. My old Epson Stylus Pro has ink
cartridges that would do 1000 full 8-1/2" x 11" prints. Today my Epson R200
I am very lucky if I can get 100, usually much less in the area of 50 to 60
full page prints.
For me I would be more concerned with the cost per print and what a set of
ink cartridges will run me than how long they claim they will last. Cost per
print is something that can be proven. Print life can't.
I would also shy away from Epson of the four major inkjet printer makers
(HP, Epson, Canon and Lexmark) Epson's printers waste the most ink. Every
time you turn the printer on it activates the print heads and uses a small
amount of ink from each color to make sure the print heads are primed and
their is no air in the system, this is why it takes so much time for it to
come online and actually print. Also, on the Epson when the print heads clog
and with the Epson's they do if you don't use them often enough you can
waste as much as 30% of the ink in your cartridge doing a head cleaning.
Epson seems to be the most greedy and the most willing to waste your
expensive inks.
Read the fine print for the archival life ads. You will be surprised!
BTW 1: I have been testing and reviewing PC software and hardware since 1992
and have experience with thousands of software and hardware products.
BTW 2: Just to clarify. I am also not claiming that these new archival
prints won't last longer than prints from dye based printers (new archival
printers use pigment based ink, not dye based ink). I am sure they will last
a few more years than the dye based prints. What I am saying is that the
life span is un-provable and a bunch of marketing hype designed to get you
to buy a new printer and one that costs more to use so the maker can make
more money, they don't make money from the printers they make it from the
ink and paper.
Robert
Rach
Hugs,
Rach
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Rach
I have pictures I printed with this thing ten years ago and the colors are
just as sharp as the day I did it. AND they have been hanging in sunlight
all that time.
Hugs,
Rach
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Hebee Jeebes
Which are not "archival". That of course doesn't mean you can't still have
good prints after ten years. It just means it isn't using the ink technology
you think it is.
Robert
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