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TIG machine comparison - Miller vs. ESAB

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Ian

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May 24, 2002, 4:23:28 PM5/24/02
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Hi all,

I am looking at buying a TIG machine for doing lighter work on steel and
aluminum around my shop. I've looked at the Miller 180 SD and the ESAB 161
and was hoping someone could lend me their opinion of the pros and cons of
each. The ESAB has a huge weight advantage, as it uses inverter technology,
but I wonder if I'd be giving up anything for that weight reduction...

Any opinions would be welcomed.

Ian

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J. Eric Townsend

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May 24, 2002, 5:34:05 PM5/24/02
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"Ian" <iboe...@qwest.net> writes:
> aluminum around my shop. I've looked at the Miller 180 SD and the ESAB 161

I don't know anything about the ESAB, but I have the 180SD and like it
quite a bit. The runner variant, with wheels and a handle is more
than worth the few extra bucks.


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JAMES R BLOOMFIELD

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May 24, 2002, 8:46:21 PM5/24/02
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I recently purchased the 180 Runner also. I am real happy with it.Local
support for parts ,supplies is helpful with regard to what you buy also.The
guys at the local shop recommended the 180 for what I planned to do.
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Ernie Leimkuhler

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May 24, 2002, 8:59:55 PM5/24/02
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In article <tcxH8.60$YE1.1...@news.uswest.net>, "Ian" <iboe...@qwest.net>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am looking at buying a TIG machine for doing lighter work on steel and
> aluminum around my shop. I've looked at the Miller 180 SD and the ESAB 161
> and was hoping someone could lend me their opinion of the pros and cons of
> each. The ESAB has a huge weight advantage, as it uses inverter technology,
> but I wonder if I'd be giving up anything for that weight reduction...
>
> Any opinions would be welcomed.
>


Miller good

ESAB bad.

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TSJABS

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May 25, 2002, 8:47:49 AM5/25/02
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If anybody, dealer or otherwise tries to sell you an ESAB anything,,,, run
and run fast, they are definitely not your friend. A local welding shop
recently got rid of their ESAB dealership, they told me that was the most
embarrasing brand of anything they had ever sold. They always knew if someone
bought ESAB they were going to be back with problems and ESAB wants nothing to
do with customer support.
If I were buying any welding equiptment I would certainly look hard at
Lincoln. The Miller/Hobart line has really went cheasy these days. Lincoln has
better customer service .
I have a Linde(which is now ESAB) Migmaster 250 welder, that I bought from
the local dealer. From day one it had given me problems welding properly.
Welder output was normal, wire feeding was smooth and you could feed the wire
thru the hose by hand. Problem was when you started to weld it would do fine
for maybe one inch of weld and then burn back into the tip. After sitting in
basically new condition for about 7 years I pulled it out and started fiddling
with it again. I ended up figuring out that regular steel had been used for
the hardware that holds on the 40lbs wire spool. When the welder was
energized the wire acted like a electromagnent and would tighten the drag
ajustment screw. With the welder output disconnected it would not do this. My
solution was to put stainless hardware on the shaft and double nut to stop any
creep. I am happy to say my Linde now welds like a champ.

tim

Ted Edwards

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May 25, 2002, 1:08:25 PM5/25/02
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I have a Thermal Dynamics 250GTSW which I got in the early '90s. Don't
know about their waranty service since I've never had a spot of trouble
with it (other than operator error). Any time I phoned their tech
support, they were very helpful.

Ted


Ian

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May 25, 2002, 1:29:52 PM5/25/02
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Thanks to all for your help. After getting a fairly unanimous response on
the pros of Miller and the cons of ESAB, I'm going with the Miller 180SD Tig
Runner. I chose Miller over Lincoln mostly because they have a higher duty
cycle than Lincoln at the most usable amp ranges...

Regards,

Ian

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