It's been a very good week
Cliff
--
Cliff
Alex Clayton
news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
> --
> Cliff
>
>
Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws making it
illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all have the right
to murder people any time we feel like it.
--
Calling an illegal immigrant an undocumented worker, is like calling the
corner drug dealer an unlicensed Pharmacist.
Nobammer
> "Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
> news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
>
>> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
>> --
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>
> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
A better way would be to screen army recruits better and keep all the
filthy low life allahbastards out of it.
Scott
news:x6KdnbPNK9HZ5WjX...@nventure.com...
> "Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
> news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
>> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
>> --
>> Cliff
What a fucking clueless lowlife piece of shit. Somehow I knew it would be
this turd using these tragedies for a podium.
And why not? He obviously has no self respect whatever, and nothing is too
low for him to stoop under.
> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws making
> it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all have the
> right to murder people any time we feel like it.
Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his galactic
cowardice.
Scott
news:F6mdnR35_5FFC2jX...@earthlink.com...
Better yet would be the Muslims who practice the religion of peace and light
start to clean their own house.
Alex Clayton
news:c4-dnWX094pNPGjX...@supernews.com...
>
>> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws making
>> it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all have the
>> right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>
> Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
> galactic cowardice.
>
What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
--
Welfare is NOT a birth right.
Gray Ghost
And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support yes?
And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to ask
government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that says
We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.
That or slink away lieing coward.
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
Alex Clayton
news:Xns9CBC7CCF3CD1BWe...@216.196.97.142...
BS. if there was a law against it, there would be no murder dumbass.
Same thing if they had made the post a gun free zone. They have all those
people walking around armed, so it's like the old west. If they just put up
some signs and made the place a gun free zone there would have been no
victims.
--
"Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Michael Savage
Gunner Asch
wrote:
It is illegal. Your brain damage or Far Leftwing Extremist Fringe Kook
status is noted with great amusement.
Gunner
Scott
I read some of the responses, I guess sarcasm is a lost art.
Alex Clayton
Many people have their mouth open as it sails right over their head. <G>
--
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering, 'What the hell
happened?'
Hiccum Blurpaedius
> Alex Clayton wrote:
> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
With separation of church and state we can finally kick god out of the
country god dammit.
RD (The Sandman)
You win. Murder is illegal and the NRA agrees with you.
--
Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?
RD (The Sandman)
Interesting satire...... I assume because your statements can't be
serious.
Scott
news:alkbf5t34lsqeos03...@4ax.com...
> It isn't a lost art, but does require some tone & inflection to come
> across correctly. Something that is extremely hard to do in the
> written word.
If you know anything at all about the NRA and the law, in this instance his
posts are obviously sarcasm.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>It isn't a lost art, but does require some tone & inflection to come
>across correctly. Something that is extremely hard to do in the
>written word.
Most folks use <sarcasm/on> to start...then finish with <sarcasm/off>
"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves,
but obviously craves. The most appropriate response, and perhaps the
cruelest, IMO, is to simply killfile and ignore him. An alternative, if
you must, would be to post the same standard reply to his every post,
listing the manifold reasons why he ought to be ignored. Just my $0.02
worth."
Gunner Asch
Amendment 1
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
If you try to kick god out of the country...you will be in utter
violation of the 1st Amendment.
At which point the 2nd Amendment kicks in. And you will either be
imprisioned..or dead.
Thats what the Constitution is for..to protect everyones rights from
those trying to take them away.
Gunner
tankfixer
@yahoo.com says...
About the silliest strawman I've seen in a while.
Does the left have no honesty anymore ?
tankfixer
nu...@bidneth.com says...
If you have seen previos posts by leftists the sarcasm is less obvious..
They make such silly statements all the time.
pyotr filipivich
Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:04:37 -0500 did write/type or cause to appear in
talk.politics.guns the following:
>across correctly. Something that is extremely hard to do in the
>written word.
The written word cannot smile.
Hells bells, it has a face stiffer than Nancy "Botox" Pelosi
There are any number of jokes which do not work when written, but
only when spoken.
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)
Cliff
Guns make you safer, dontcha know. Lott & the NRA & the gun makers
& sellers said so !!!
The more guns the better & who has more guns than the army?
And Coulter sez it's the safest place too !!!
And there were lots more ...
http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=shooting+-fort
Pretty good week for the NRA & gun sales, eh?
The wingers are coming to shoot you so you you need more guns ...
--
Cliff
Cliff
See "Going Rouge" !!!
[
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:03:29 -0800, "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote:
>Not to nit-pick, but the dumb bastard cant spell either. Sarah has him
>tripping over his tongue, and he is too stupid to be embarrassed.
>
>rouge
>[roozh]
>-noun 1.any of various red cosmetics for coloring the cheeks or lips.
>2.a reddish powder, chiefly ferric oxide, used for polishing metal, glass,
>etc.
<Snicker>
Talk about the clueless leading the blind !!!
>3.Canadian football.
>
>-verb (used with object) 4.to color with rouge.
>
>-verb (used without object) 5.to use rouge.
>
>Origin:
>1475-85; < F: red < L rubeus; akin to red 1
>
>
Wingers are so dumb they are a hoot !!
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LOL ...
I just love spotting a smart (IQ nearly over 60) winger.
--
Cliff
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Absolutely none. And hasnt had since FDR or before.
Alex Clayton
>
> Pretty good week for the NRA & gun sales, eh?
> The wingers are coming to shoot you so you you need more guns ...
> --
> Cliff
>
>
If the Damn NRA would let them pass a law against this, then we would not
have to be having this talk. If they would just make the place a gun free
zone, the worst thing they would ever have to worry about is some kook using
his car to run people down. Damn that NRA, and the GOP majority in the
congress.
SteveB
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote
> Thats what the Constitution is for..to protect everyones rights from
> those trying to take them away.
>
> Gunner
And I do hope we see lots more of these "exercises" in constitutionality in
the near future. Too bad the psycho Texas psychiatrist wasn't a
Congressional page. Just a thought ............
Steve
Stormin Mormon
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:x6KdnbPNK9HZ5WjX...@nventure.com...
Damn NRA always spouting how we all have the right
Lib Loo
"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9CBC7BA8D...@216.196.97.130...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pGt_O1uM8
Don Foreman
<alex...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
>> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
>> --
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>
>Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws making it
>illegal to kill people.
If you don't understand that killing people is already illegal, try
killing someone.
Possible outcomes:
1) they (legally) kill you in self defense
2) you succeed, get caught, get incarcerated
3) you get away with it
3 is possible but highly unlikely.
Cliff
>"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>news:5k1cf51ntqt163ocs...@4ax.com...
>
>>
>> Pretty good week for the NRA & gun sales, eh?
>> The wingers are coming to shoot you so you you need more guns ...
>> --
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>
>If the Damn NRA would let them pass a law against this, then we would not
>have to be having this talk.
The more guns the more you need more guns, right?
And it's very, very good for the NRA's business model !!!
And profits for many firms.
> If they would just make the place a gun free
>zone, the worst thing they would ever have to worry about is some kook using
>his car to run people down. Damn that NRA, and the GOP majority in the
>congress.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>Anything to take the eyes off ObamaCare, huh Cliff.
"There is nothing to fear but fear itself." - Franklin D. Roosevelt
And gummer getting (& paying something for) health care
I suppose.
Right?
--
Cliff
Cliff
>"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:x6KdnbPNK9HZ5WjX...@nventure.com...
>
>> "Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>> news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
>>> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
>>> --
>>> Cliff
>
>What a fucking clueless lowlife piece of shit. Somehow I knew it would be
>this turd using these tragedies for a podium.
>
>And why not? He obviously has no self respect whatever, and nothing is too
>low for him to stoop under.
FREE CLUE:
I ONLY posted "It's been a very good week for the NRA."
--
Cliff
Cliff
Ghost) wrote:
>"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:FZGdnXD30MMFO2jX...@nventure.com:
>
>> "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote in message
>> news:c4-dnWX094pNPGjX...@supernews.com...
>>
>>>
>>>> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
>>>> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
>>>> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>>>
>>> Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
>>> galactic cowardice.
>>>
>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
>
>And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support yes?
>And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to ask
>government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that says
>We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.
>
>That or slink away lieing coward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DM2ic9lTjI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WKLXCHgOiA
HTH
--
Cliff
Cliff
>"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9CBC7CCF3CD1BWe...@216.196.97.142...
>> "Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:FZGdnXD30MMFO2jX...@nventure.com:
>>
>>> "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c4-dnWX094pNPGjX...@supernews.com...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
>>>>> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
>>>>> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
>>>> galactic cowardice.
>>>>
>>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
>>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
>>
>> And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support yes?
>> And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to
>> ask
>> government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that
>> says
>> We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.
>>
>> That or slink away lieing coward.
>>
>> --
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
>> gospel
>> of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery." Winston
>> Churchill
>
>BS. if there was a law against it, there would be no murder dumbass.
> Same thing if they had made the post a gun free zone. They have all those
>people walking around armed, so it's like the old west. If they just put up
>some signs and made the place a gun free zone there would have been no
>victims.
But per gunlogic you get the most people shot when nobody has any guns
and are the safest when you have lots of guns !!!
Perhaps someone should give the army some guns?
--
Cliff
HH&C
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:35:31 -0800 (PST), Hiccum Blurpaedius
>
>
>
>
>
> <hic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 7, 10:48 am, Nobammer <nobam...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> Alex Clayton wrote:
> >> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
> >> >news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
>
> >> >> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cliff
>
> >> > Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
> >> > making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
> >> > have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>
> >> A better way would be to screen army recruits better and keep all the
> >> filthy low life allahbastards out of it.
>
> >With separation of church and state we can finally kick god out of the
> >country god dammit.
Looks like Alberto has a new nym.
> Amendment 1
> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
> prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
> speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
> assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
>
> If you try to kick god out of the country...you will be in utter
> violation of the 1st Amendment.
>
> At which point the 2nd Amendment kicks in. And you will either be
> imprisioned..or dead.
>
> Thats what the Constitution is for..to protect everyones rights from
> those trying to take them away.
>
> Gunner
Some people even faught for those rights. Others didn't.
HH&C
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:32:56 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns9CBC7CCF3CD1BWe...@216.196.97.142...
> >> "Alex Clayton" <alexx1...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >>news:FZGdnXD30MMFO2jX...@nventure.com:
>
> >>> "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:c4-dnWX094pNPGjX...@supernews.com...
>
> >>>>> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
> >>>>> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>
> >>>> galactic cowardice.
>
> >>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
> >>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
>
> >> And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support yes?
> >> And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to
> >> ask
> >> government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that
> >> says
> >> We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.
>
> >> That or slink away lieing coward.
>
> >> --
> >> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
> >> gospel
> >> of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery." Winston
> >> Churchill
>
> >BS. if there was a law against it, there would be no murder dumbass.
>
> it?
That's DC think. Check your brain at the door.
Gunner Asch
Its fascinating to note the continued calls from the Anti-gunners to
have psychiatrists be the determining individual as to wheather or not a
person can own a firearm...isnt it?
Fascinating indeed.
Gunner Asch
Don...#3 is far more possible than you evidently think. It happens
daily in the US
pyotr filipivich
or about Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:29:47 -0800 did write/type or cause to
appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:19:27 -0700, "SteveB" <old...@depends.com> wrote:
>>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote
>>> Thats what the Constitution is for..to protect everyones rights from
>>> those trying to take them away.
>>the near future. Too bad the psycho Texas psychiatrist wasn't a
>>Congressional page. Just a thought ............
>have psychiatrists be the determining individual as to wheather or not a
>person can own a firearm...isnt it?
>
>Fascinating indeed.
I'm just going to quote David Codrea:
"In his position as a medical professional treating and diagnosing
soldiers with mental health issues, both at Walter Reed and at Fort
Hood, did Dr. Hasan report any veterans to the federal government for
entry into the NICS "prohibited persons" database? In other words,
have "gun control" laws enabled a mass shooter to cause the government
to disarm others?"
tschus
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
Don Foreman
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:31:22 -0600, Don Foreman
><dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:38:11 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
>><alex...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>>>news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
>>>> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
>>>> --
>>>> Cliff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws making it
>>>illegal to kill people.
>>
>>If you don't understand that killing people is already illegal, try
>>killing someone.
>>
>>Possible outcomes:
>>1) they (legally) kill you in self defense
>>2) you succeed, get caught, get incarcerated
>>3) you get away with it
>>
>>3 is possible but highly unlikely.
>
>
>Don...#3 is far more possible than you evidently think. It happens
>daily in the US
>
>Gunner
You speak in support of redundant legislation?
In context that I thought was obvious but apparently needs to be
explained: #3 is possible but highly unlikely for the vacuously
naive OP to whom my post was addressed.
Do you disagree?
Gunner Asch
<dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
Not at all.
>
>In context that I thought was obvious but apparently needs to be
>explained: #3 is possible but highly unlikely for the vacuously
>naive OP to whom my post was addressed.
>
But in real life..#3 is highly LIKELY.
Check the unsolved murder rates. They back me up.
>Do you disagree?
With what?
SaPeIsMa
"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uMKdnYEeZqXXMmjX...@nventure.com...
> "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CBC7CCF3CD1BWe...@216.196.97.142...
>> "Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:FZGdnXD30MMFO2jX...@nventure.com:
>>
>>> "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c4-dnWX094pNPGjX...@supernews.com...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
>>>> galactic cowardice.
>>>>
>>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
>>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
>>
>> And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support
>> yes?
>> And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to
>> ask
>> government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that
>> says
>> We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.
>>
>> That or slink away lieing coward.
>>
>> --
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
>> gospel
>> of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery." Winston
>> Churchill
>
> BS. if there was a law against it, there would be no murder dumbass.
> people walking around armed, so it's like the old west. If they just put
> up some signs and made the place a gun free zone there would have been no
> victims.
Hate to disappoint you dummy
But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
the US during the same period.
Come back when you stop confusing Hollywood stories with the real world.
Gray Ghost
Your incoherent babbling aside.
Please respond to the request:
And you will supply us with the specifics of the NRA's murder support
yes? And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not
have to ask government permission to have guns, I want to see an actual
quote that says We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.
Which I asked in response to your previous inchoherent rambling:
>>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
>>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
--
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Absolutely correct.
I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
enforcement.....while those in the East were chickenshits.
Shrug
Gunner
Cliff
>But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
>the US during the same period.
Far fewer people being run over by horses & wagons due to the
lower population density.
BTW, How did the Native Americans fare with
all those armed illegals?
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
>enforcement.....
On the run from the law ....
>while those in the East were chickenshits.
Hence the East had to send military & Pinkertons ....
And the sheriffs took away the guns when they went to town .
--
Cliff
Michael A. Terrell
Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> Absolutely correct.
>
> I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
> armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
The wimps wouldn't attempt to make the trip, and the liberals
generally didn't survive the trip. The left the strong willed and hard
working types to make the trip and care lives out of almost nothing.
Life was rough, and they had to be the same to survive. They couldn't
let a parasite run around stealing and killing, so they either shot them
or sent them to prison.
> Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
> enforcement.....while those in the East were chickenshits.
>
> Shrug
>
> Gunner
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
tankfixer
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
Care to document how many towns that actually occured in ?
Gunner Asch
wrote:
2 that Im aware of. And only select parts of town and only on select
times.
Both were head of the trail towns where cattle was shipped back east.
Gunner
Don Foreman
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
They seem to. One reference said:
"In 2006, approximately 37.4%, or 6,035, of the murders went
unsolved."
Gunner Asch
<dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
Bingo.
Over 1 in 3.
Shrug...hardly "unlikely", no?
Lookout
Can you prove that?
Nah..you're lying again.
Lookout
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:53:12 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <5dbhf5pbk85nvcvd2...@4ax.com>,
>>Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
>>> >enforcement.....
>>>
>>> On the run from the law ....
>>>
>>> >while those in the East were chickenshits.
>>>
>>> Hence the East had to send military & Pinkertons ....
>>> And the sheriffs took away the guns when they went to town .
>>
>>Care to document how many towns that actually occured in ?
>
>
>2 that Im aware of. And only select parts of town and only on select
>times.
So you can't document it. And why can't you? Because you're lying
again.
Lookout
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> Absolutely correct.
>>
>> I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>> armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
>
>
> The wimps wouldn't attempt to make the trip, and the liberals
>generally didn't survive the trip. The left the strong willed and hard
>working types to make the trip and care lives out of almost nothing.
>Life was rough, and they had to be the same to survive. They couldn't
>let a parasite run around stealing and killing, so they either shot them
>or sent them to prison.
Another liar.
Don Foreman
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
How emphatically or repeatedly must I acknowledge your point to
satisfy you? <G>
If > 50% is "likely" then < 50% is "unlikely". The probability
threshold of "highly unlikely" is undefined but certainly less than
.374.
That does not alter the fact that it is already illegal to kill people
except in self defense.
The NRA does not seek to change this. They do seek to block needless
impositions on the rights of law-abiding citizens.
If you want more laws, seek laws that remove all ambiguity and
screwing around with those convicted of using firearms in violent
crimes. Let those who prefer to shirk any responsibility for self
defense have their legislators pursue draconian penalties for those
who employ firearms in commission of violent crimes. Hang them from a
high-tension line with wet rope and stone them while they dance and
smoke. Don't give them three pro-bono lawyers and a plea bargain
penalty of picking litter along the highway for two summer months.
pyotr filipivich
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Mon, 09 Nov 2009
15:16:02 -0800 in misc.survivalism:
>On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:06:41 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com>
>wrote:
>>> "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> "Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
>>>>>>> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
>>>>>>> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
>>>>>> galactic cowardice.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
>>>>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
>>>>
>>>> And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support
>>>> yes? And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to
>>>> ask government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that
>>>> says 'We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.'
>>>>
>>>> That or slink away lieing coward.
>>>
>>> Same thing if they had made the post a gun free zone. They have all those
>>> people walking around armed, so it's like the old west. If they just put
>>> up some signs and made the place a gun free zone there would have been no
>>> victims.
>>
>>But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
>>the US during the same period.
>>Come back when you stop confusing Hollywood stories with the real world.
>
>Absolutely correct.
>
>I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
People in the west, say Dodge City, Kansas, were more intent on
attending to business. They also tended to "have come a purpose" -
they were where they were to make a better life.
>
>Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
>enforcement.....while those in the East were chickenshits.
And there were some things which were just not tolerated - or
done.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
Gunner Asch
<dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
I LIKE IT!!! Well done! You got MY vote!!
<G>
Gunner Asch
Or at least..never done again after being caught. Dangling by the neck
from a rope tends to stop bad habits and career paths pretty well.
>-
>pyotr filipivich.
>Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
>you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves,
Cliff
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>> armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
>
>
> The wimps wouldn't attempt to make the trip, and the liberals
>generally didn't survive the trip.
Explains why California is so conservative, right?
--
Cliff
Cliff
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>the strong willed and hard
>working types to make the trip and care lives out of almost nothing.
>Life was rough, and they had to be the same to survive. They couldn't
>let a parasite run around stealing and killing, so they either shot them
>or sent them to prison.
Hence all the dead wingers in boot hills.
--
Cliff
Cliff
Ask gummer about his Westerns ....
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
>
>Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
>enforcement.....while those in the East were chickenshits.
He's thinking of the James Gang.
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
> People in the west, say Dodge City, Kansas, were more intent on
>attending to business. They also tended to "have come a purpose" -
>they were where they were to make a better life.
http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html
"From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston police
did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent manslaughter)
arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"
"Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of cities
today."
Wingers lie.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Hate to disappoint you dummy
>But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
>the US during the same period.
http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html
"From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston police
did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent manslaughter)
arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"
"Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of cities
today."
>Come back when you stop confusing Hollywood stories with the real world.
Wingers lie.
--
Cliff
Ed Huntress
"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:pr5if55s58o3dvlgg...@4ax.com...
Where are you guys getting this information, from dime-store western novels?
Here's where you start:
"Body Counts and Murder Rates: The Contested Statistics of Western
Violence," Reviews in American History - Volume 31, Number 4, December 2003,
pp. 554-563
The first thing you'll learn from that is that the population densities in
the "wild West" were too small to produce meaningful statistics. However, if
you insist on using them anyway, you'll find that murder rates in the old
West were several times higher than in the East.
Second, there were plenty of guns in the East at the time, as well.
If you're going to refer to Frederick Turner's or Mo Udall's claims about
this subject, "Body Counts..." addresses all of them.
I realize that the facts hold little interest for you, Gunner, or Terrell on
this subject (or most others). What you're probably looking for is some
fodder for a good rant. If so, please excuse this intrusion of reality into
your imaginary world of adolescent fantasies.
--
Ed Huntress
John Husvar
Don Foreman <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
>
> The NRA does not seek to change this. They do seek to block needless
> impositions on the rights of law-abiding citizens.
>
> If you want more laws, seek laws that remove all ambiguity and
> screwing around with those convicted of using firearms in violent
> crimes. Let those who prefer to shirk any responsibility for self
> defense have their legislators pursue draconian penalties for those
> who employ firearms in commission of violent crimes. Hang them from a
> high-tension line with wet rope and stone them while they dance and
> smoke. Don't give them three pro-bono lawyers and a plea bargain
> penalty of picking litter along the highway for two summer months.
Damn! You have a gruesome and vindictive concept of justice for violent
crime! I like that in a person. :)
Gray Ghost
news:9npif55mh3lab8gm4...@4ax.com:
Are you to stupid to distinguish between an arrest rate and a homicide rate?
Apparently.
You're a talk radio host? In Alabama? Must be subsidized.
tankfixer
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
Truth is the person who claim it happened can't document that it did in
fact occure..
So he must be lying.. again
tankfixer
>
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:53:12 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <5dbhf5pbk85nvcvd2...@4ax.com>,
> >Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
> >>
> >> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
> >> >enforcement.....
> >>
> >> On the run from the law ....
> >>
> >> >while those in the East were chickenshits.
> >>
> >> Hence the East had to send military & Pinkertons ....
> >> And the sheriffs took away the guns when they went to town .
> >
> >Care to document how many towns that actually occured in ?
>
> Ask gummer about his Westerns ....
So you are backing away from your claim it happened all over the west ?
Lookout
Which was given to you by SOCIAL security. You fucking socialist.
SteveB
>>>>>>If you don't understand that killing people is already illegal, try
>>>>>>killing someone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Possible outcomes:
>>>>>>1) they (legally) kill you in self defense
>>>>>>2) you succeed, get caught, get incarcerated
>>>>>>3) you get away with it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3 is possible but highly unlikely.
If anyone is experienced with remote desert areas, such as occur in the
Great Basin, or even San Bernardino County, one knows how easy it is to
dispose of someone and have them never ever surface.
Steve
SteveB
"John Husvar" <jhu...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhusvar-6A098F...@news.eternal-september.org...
What's that word that's overused, and doesn't mean anything
........................
deterrent? Yeah, that's it. I think that a few public executions of such
entertaining ways would definitely make some, but not all, people think.
Or maybe not.
Steve
RD (The Sandman)
news:5dbhf5pbk85nvcvd2...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:02 -0800, Gunner Asch
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
>>enforcement.....
>
> On the run from the law ....
>
>>while those in the East were chickenshits.
>
> Hence the East had to send military & Pinkertons ....
> And the sheriffs took away the guns when they went to town .
In some towns, yes.
--
Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?
RD (The Sandman)
news:ctmhf5ts111vkktgv...@4ax.com:
Tombstone was one.
Michael A. Terrell
Are you bragging?
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Then there is Kern County...with its countless "abandoned" oil
wells...most simply with a manhole cover or sheet of plate steel over
the hole.
<G>
Gunner
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pyotr filipivich
02:58:06 -0800 in misc.survivalism:
"Don't let a good boy go bad." When the little bastard screws up
the _first_ time, it is the time to come down hard. Hang him if need
be. Those hanged for robbery don't go onto become murderers.
rangerssuck
wrote:
Yeah - Joe Walsh rocks - and he's certainly no chickenshit.
Don Foreman
Violence is indeed gruesome. Mary and I are gentle seniors who abhor
violence. I don't think we're vindictive, more like zero-tolerance of
violent behavior relevant to us. We're not defenders of the realm,
just try not to be easy prey.
Vindictive is about vengeance. We have no vengeance motivation because
we've avoided harm thus far.
Harm gentle Mary, discover protracted painfull and eventually lethal
and untracable vengeance. Harming me might not be a real good idea
either. It's a bad idea to piss her off.
We seriously have zero tolerance for violent crime.
Cliff
Found those "WMDs" yet?
--
Cliff
Cliff
You don't know any US history I gather.
Cliff
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Lookout wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Gunner Asch wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely correct.
>> >>
>> >> I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>> >> armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
>> >
>> >
>> > The wimps wouldn't attempt to make the trip, and the liberals
>> >generally didn't survive the trip. The left the strong willed and hard
>> >working types to make the trip and care lives out of almost nothing.
>> >Life was rough, and they had to be the same to survive. They couldn't
>> >let a parasite run around stealing and killing, so they either shot them
>> >or sent them to prison.
>>
>> Another liar.
>
>
> Are you bragging?
Gummer loves to lie.
--
Cliff
Cliff
Ghost) wrote:
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>news:9npif55mh3lab8gm4...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:40:37 -0800, pyotr filipivich
>> <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> People in the west, say Dodge City, Kansas, were more intent on
>>>attending to business. They also tended to "have come a purpose" -
>>>they were where they were to make a better life.
>>
>> http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html
>>
>> "From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston
>> police
>> did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent
>> manslaughter) arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"
>>
>> "Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of
>> cities
>> today."
>>
>> Wingers lie.
>
>Are you to stupid to distinguish between an arrest rate and a homicide rate?
>
>Apparently.
>
>You're a talk radio host? In Alabama? Must be subsidized.
Why don't you check some actual facts for once?
Because to wingers lies are better than facts?
After all, saves thinking, right? And any lies
will do, right?
OTOH you don't have a program guide ... even
for Faux & Rush ...
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
That seems a bit harsh. Instead educate the wingers. Or at least
try to.
--
Cliff
tankfixer
mike.t...@earthlink.net says...
I think he is, he uses the word so much he must be use it as a reflex
from hearing it so often.
tankfixer
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:06:41 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hate to disappoint you dummy
> >But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
> >the US during the same period.
>
> http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html
>
> "From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston police
> did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent manslaughter)
> arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"
>
> "Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of cities
> today."
> >Come back when you stop confusing Hollywood stories with the real world.
>
>
> Wingers lie.
Yes, you do..
tankfixer
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
I accept your surrender you whiny mangy democrat...
tankfixer
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
So you are lying, figured as much.
> Found those "WMDs" yet?
One can always tell when a leftist has conceded the point, they toss out
a silly bush or wmd question..
Michael A. Terrell
A limited vocabulary is often found in those of limited intelligence.
:(
Cliff
>In article <r0qif5lutcsvrajio...@4ax.com>,
>Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:06:41 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hate to disappoint you dummy
>> >But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
>> >the US during the same period.
>>
>> http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html
>>
>> "From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston police
>> did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent manslaughter)
>> arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"
>>
>> "Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of cities
>> today."
>
>apples and oranges..
The homicide rate is an apple or an orange?
>> >Come back when you stop confusing Hollywood stories with the real world.
>>
>>
>> Wingers lie.
>
>Yes, you do..
I just cited the simple research.
You wingers lied.
Again.
As always.
--
Cliff
Cliff
Your endless winger lies .... it's no wonder you run ...
Cliff
Found those "WMDs" yet?
Silly?
Two nations destroyed.
About a millon dead & 4 million homeless.
More then 3 trillion added to rethug & US taxpayer debts.
Silly?
--
Cliff
Cliff
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>tankfixer wrote:
>>
>> In article <XoGdnQ20iqbqJ2TX...@earthlink.com>,
>> mike.t...@earthlink.net says...
>> >
>> > Lookout wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> > > <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Gunner Asch wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Absolutely correct.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>> > > >> armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > The wimps wouldn't attempt to make the trip, and the liberals
>> > > >generally didn't survive the trip. The left the strong willed and hard
>> > > >working types to make the trip and care lives out of almost nothing.
>> > > >Life was rough, and they had to be the same to survive. They couldn't
>> > > >let a parasite run around stealing and killing, so they either shot them
>> > > >or sent them to prison.
>> > >
>> > > Another liar.
>> >
>> >
>> > Are you bragging?
>>
>> I think he is, he uses the word so much he must be use it as a reflex
>> from hearing it so often.
>
>
> A limited vocabulary is often found in those of limited intelligence.
>:(
Their reading comprehension skills aren't so hot either.
Logic & reasoning ones absent entirely.
--
Cliff
Don Foreman
wrote:
>
>
It's impossible to prove murder without substantial evidence that the
allegedly murdered person is dead, so proximity to the regions you
describe does present opportunity for the careful assassin. The devil
is in the details. Transport of a body having any leaks must be done
with great care. Transport of a live body to a kill site also has
risks of left trace evidence. Chorus: the devil is in the details.
It's not impossible to get a jury to convict without such evidentiary
proof and it has been done with circumstantial evidence, clear
evidence of motive and opportunity, but few prosecutors would attempt
it except in high-profile cases. FWIW, my cousin Marf was a
prosecutor.
I suspect that most unsolved murders are gang interactions and drug
deals gone bad. They tend to be somewhat random which means few leads
for investigation, people who know anything about them are
disinclined to tell cops what they know, and political motivation to
solve them is low. Good folks in the 'hood want the kill rate to be
reduced but they don't care much about what's already gone down
because they fatalistically accept that done is done.
A critical key to getting away with murder is to have no guilt about
having done it. Guilt is very powerful and a skilled interrogator
knows how to use it.
That just says don't kill anyone other than vermin urgently requiring
extermination even if their relatives who love them will grieve for
their loss. Don't do it unless you're very sure you'll be able to
live with it without guilt for the rest of your life. A skilled
interrogator can and will parlay your guilt to put your tender ass in
the slammer.
Cliff
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:54:07 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>
>> One can always tell when a leftist has conceded the point, they toss out
>> a silly bush or wmd question..
>
>Dismissing the deaths of hundreds of thousands, millions more homeless,
>their infrastructure destroyed, their economy destroyed, their historical
>treasures lost, their oil industry destroyed, their educational system
>destroyed and you think that is a "silly bush or wmd question"?
>
>Demanding responsibility of those who lied our nation into the invasion
>of Iraq and Afghanistan is the polar opposite of "silly." It is
>precisely what Republicans have been shouting for, what Conservatives
>ostensibly believe in, what justice requires.
>
>Do you think this is "silly"?
>
>This is not a partisian issue. Republicans should be up in arms with
>outrage at being lied to by your leaders, not covering up for the lying
>scumbags. No, "War Criminals."
>
>It is all I can do to remain silent about Obama refusing to turn Eric
>Holder loose. Prosecutions must, eventually, proceed for lying America
>into a dead-end, no-win, quandry that is sucking the very lifeblood of
>our young and treasury.
>
>And you think this is "silly"?
>
>Conservatives and Republicans like to wrap themselves in the flag. Walk
>the walk, your leaders shredded the Constitution with the "Patriot Act."
>The entire Executive Branch and majority of the Legislative Branch should
>be waterboarded 183 times and tried in a military tribunal.
>
>And you think this is "silly"?
>
>What part of a "Nation of Law" do you find "silly"? Do you also find
>humor in the "Patriot Act"? The corruption that has turned America into
>a Fascist state? How, precisely, is it "silly" to bring criminals to
>trial?
>
>--
>Regards, Curly
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed !!
--
Cliff
Darrell Stec
> Found those "WMDs" yet?
Why do you keep asking that question? Conservatives and Republicans are
convinced they were found. It is a matter of faith, not logic or evidence.
I'm serious. I have friends and acquaintances who are in that group and
they cite talk show hosts (one obese drug felon in particular), FOX news
entertainers, newspaper articles or Internet sites to confirm their faith.
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Later,
Darrell
Cliff
I guess actually showing them to anybody never crossed their little minds,
had they existed.
What fools.
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Cliff
Darrell Stec
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:14:52 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Cliff inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>>
>>> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>
>>Why do you keep asking that question? Conservatives and Republicans are
>>convinced they were found. It is a matter of faith, not logic or
>>evidence.
>>I'm serious. I have friends and acquaintances who are in that group and
>>they cite talk show hosts (one obese drug felon in particular), FOX news
>>entertainers, newspaper articles or Internet sites to confirm their faith.
>
> I guess actually showing them to anybody never crossed their little
> minds,
> had they existed.
> What fools.
But their physical evidence consists of destroyed parts which they claim
were created after the US invasion, not before. Remember the Bush
administration used the same tactic.
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Later,
Darrell