Republican Deficit Hypocrisy
Cliff
"GOP Lawmakers Change Tune on Costly Health Plans"
[
Democrats are troubled by the inconsistency of Republican lawmakers who approved
a major Medicare expansion six years ago that has added tens of billions of
dollars to federal deficits, but oppose current health overhaul plans.
All current GOP senators, including the 24 who voted for the 2003 Medicare
expansion ......
.....
The Democrats claim that their plan moving through Congress now will pay for
itself with higher taxes and spending cuts and they cite the nonpartisan
Congressional Budget Office for support.
By contrast, when Republicans controlled the House, Senate and White House in
2003, they overcame Democratic opposition to add a deficit-financed prescription
drug benefit to Medicare. The program will cost a half-trillion dollars over 10
years, or more by some estimates.
With no new taxes or spending offsets accompanying the Medicare drug program,
the cost has been added to the federal debt.
Some Republicans say they don't believe the CBO's projections that the health
care overhaul will pay for itself. As for their newfound worries about big
government health expansions, they essentially say: That was then, this is now.
Six years ago, "it was standard practice not to pay for things," said Sen. Orrin
Hatch, R-Utah.
....
]
Morton Davis
"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
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> http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9424862
> "GOP Lawmakers Change Tune on Costly Health Plans"
> [
> Democrats are troubled by the inconsistency of Republican lawmakers who
> approved
> a major Medicare expansion six years ago that has added tens of billions
> of
> dollars to federal deficits, but oppose current health overhaul plans.
>
>
during that passed during the Bush administration because Republicans never
had a super majority.
Triboniophorus
"Morton Davis" <anti...@go.com> wrote in message
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> "Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
> news:mkqbj55lhj1rb6pn1...@4ax.com...
> > http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9424862
> > "GOP Lawmakers Change Tune on Costly Health Plans"
> > [
> > Democrats are troubled by the inconsistency of Republican lawmakers who
> > approved
> > a major Medicare expansion six years ago that has added tens of billions
> > of
> > dollars to federal deficits, but oppose current health overhaul plans.
> >
> >
> It was passed with overwhelming bipartisan support.
Bullshit.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2003-459
HH&C
wrote:
So you are saying that they were ahead of their time?
Hawke
I think he meant they have been leading the charge on spending too much
for a long, long time. And they will do so again if given the chance.
Hawke
Buerste
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
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And, in 1 year Obammy outspent every Republican from the beginning of time
by a factor of ten!
Cliff
>
>"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>news:mkqbj55lhj1rb6pn1...@4ax.com...
>> http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9424862
>> "GOP Lawmakers Change Tune on Costly Health Plans"
>> [
>> Democrats are troubled by the inconsistency of Republican lawmakers who
>> approved
>> a major Medicare expansion six years ago that has added tens of billions
>> of
>> dollars to federal deficits, but oppose current health overhaul plans.
>>
>>
>It was passed with overwhelming bipartisan support.
Wingers lie, winger.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1122-02.htm
"Divided House Approves Expansion of Medicare"
[
WASHINGTON, Nov. 22 - A divided House on Saturday approved the biggest expansion
of Medicare since its creation, narrowly passing legislation that would help
millions of elderly people buy prescription drugs while giving private health
plans a huge new role in the program.
Democrats asserted that Republican leaders were pushing through a bad bill in
the middle of the night. The measure, they said, was laden with giveaways to
insurers and drug companies and would shortchange the elderly people it was
supposed to help. .
Under heavy pressure from President Bush and Republican Congressional leaders,
lawmakers backed the legislation by a vote of 220 to 215, sending it to the
Senate, which is expected to act in the next few days. The vote, which
ordinarily takes fifteen minutes to record, was kept open for an extraordinary
three hours as Republicans struggled to switch votes and obtain a majority.
]
"Most House Republicans voted for the Medicare bill and most Democrats opposed
it. "
[
But Democrats asserted that Republican leaders were pushing through a bad bill
in the middle of the night. The measure, they said, was laden with giveaways to
insurers and drug companies and would shortchange the elderly people it was
supposed to help.
Representative John Lewis, Democrat of Georgia, said: ``If this bill is passed,
it would be a dagger in the heart of Medicare as we know it. This bill is a
backdoor attempt by the Republican Party to privatize Medicare.''
]
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>Democrats are troubled by the inconsistency of Republican lawmakers who approved
>>a major Medicare expansion six years ago that has added tens of billions of
>>dollars to federal deficits, but oppose current health overhaul plans.
>
>So what you are saying is if it costs enough then the Rs should sign
>on. No matter what we get, the test is only does it cost at least X
>dollars.
>
>How typically winger of you.
"Republican Deficit Hypocrisy"
HTH
--
Cliff
Larry Jaques
<bue...@wowway.com> scrawled the following:
Now tell us what all of that bought for us, Tawm. It shouldn't take
long at all. <deep, mournful sigh>
--
"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things
that money can buy." --Tom Clancy
Cliff
>If you mean Republicans are hypocrites preaching about cutting the
>deficit and then they keep on piling more and more on - agreed. I
>like what they say; I hate what they do.
>
>But in that case - right back at you.
>
>
>Obama is now, as is traditional in the opening phase of new government
>programs, running off at the mouth about how he's going to pay for his
>boondoggle with savings.
>
>Oh. Yeah. Right. Good. When has that ever happened. He long
>ago has abandoned the "reform" he promised in his campaign. He has
>put in special favors for every "pay me" group in sight to get their
>enforcement. He has built in and guaranteed the fat, greed, and
>waste.
History shows us that the dems run down the deficits while the rethugs
run them up.
And the economy does better with dems too.
And you forget so soon the mess the rethugs created & left. It's huge & much
of it is still haunting te economy & the world.
>There are zero changes in health care until 2013, conveniently after
>the next election, and we don't get the full deal going until 2020.
Still dickering in Congress. Not that I much like the seeming
results thus far. Better by far than rethug care though.
>That's over a decade of dying and suffering. Not the sort of stuff
>you hear about in Democrat campaign speeches.
>
>What he has done is front load the taxes; they start almost
>immediately. The government now has a brand new revenue source that
>will be flowing in for ten years with zero outlay on their part.
A sales tax on stocks & bonds ...
>It's hard to conceive that the windfall will not be spent on a lot of
>favored pork for favored sons. Not one time projects like fix all the
>bridges so they will last another 40 years. It will be spend to start
>up new programs that will have to be funded forever.
>
>When it - finally - becomes time to deliver 0bamaCare, there will be
>no money. Fortunately 0bama will have had his eight years and, with
>any luck, the disaster of trying to make it work can be laid at the
>feet of Republicans.
They want disaster NOW.
--
Cliff
Lib Loo
"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
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Didn't 0bama just run up the deficit, or zero doesn't count? The economy is
doing terrible in case you haven't noticed, unless it doesn't count this
time.
>
> And you forget so soon the mess the rethugs created & left. It's huge &
> much
> of it is still haunting te economy & the world.
Actually things were quite normal until 0bama took over. He made a mess and
we're all soaking in it. Unless it doesn't count this time.
>
>>There are zero changes in health care until 2013, conveniently after
>>the next election, and we don't get the full deal going until 2020.
>
> Still dickering in Congress. Not that I much like the seeming
> results thus far. Better by far than rethug care though.
The results you are seeing are results that are typical under 0bama, unless
they don't count.
>
>>That's over a decade of dying and suffering. Not the sort of stuff
>>you hear about in Democrat campaign speeches.
>>
>>What he has done is front load the taxes; they start almost
>>immediately. The government now has a brand new revenue source that
>>will be flowing in for ten years with zero outlay on their part.
>
> A sales tax on stocks & bonds ...
>
>>It's hard to conceive that the windfall will not be spent on a lot of
>>favored pork for favored sons. Not one time projects like fix all the
>>bridges so they will last another 40 years. It will be spend to start
>>up new programs that will have to be funded forever.
>>
>>When it - finally - becomes time to deliver 0bamaCare, there will be
>>no money. Fortunately 0bama will have had his eight years and, with
>>any luck, the disaster of trying to make it work can be laid at the
>>feet of Republicans.
>
> They want disaster NOW.
Winston made a mistake above, he meant 4 years. 0bama is a one trick pony.
Martin H. Eastburn
Libs wail when Republicans are in office.
Libs wail when Democrats are in office.
Libs wail when Democrats/Fascists are in office.
Therefore Libs wail under all conditions. It is an unhealthy stance.
Martin
Gunner Asch
<lion...@consolidated.net> wrote:
>Only in America.
>
>Libs wail when Republicans are in office.
>Libs wail when Democrats are in office.
>Libs wail when Democrats/Fascists are in office.
>
>Therefore Libs wail under all conditions. It is an unhealthy stance.
>Martin
But not unexpected.
Libs are in fact, provably mentally ill.
Gunner
"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766
pyotr filipivich
<lion...@consolidated.net> on or about Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:49:36
-0600 did write/type or cause to appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the
following:
>Only in America.
>
>Libs wail when Republicans are in office.
>Libs wail when Democrats are in office.
>Libs wail when Democrats/Fascists are in office.
>
>Therefore Libs wail under all conditions. It is an unhealthy stance.
>Martin
It is really late - all that comes to mind is
"Shave the Wails!"
I don't know what it means , but I'm sure some spokesdroid for the
DNC will find some sexual allusion, and get all excited.
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
Cliff
Trying to save the US from rethug blunders?
Looks like the banks are still open.
Brokers too. Schools too.
My bank statements show no losses.
Payroll funds did not vanish.
Checks can still be used.
Other people will still take US dollars.
Most insurance is still valid AFAIK.
>The economy is
>doing terrible in case you haven't noticed, unless it doesn't count this
>time.
It's rate of growth is up 10% ....
Wall Street is up quite a bit.
>> And you forget so soon the mess the rethugs created & left. It's huge &
>> much
>> of it is still haunting te economy & the world.
>
>Actually things were quite normal until 0bama took over.
You are a liar.
> He made a mess
You are a liar.
>and we're all soaking in it. Unless it doesn't count this time.
You are a liar.
>>>There are zero changes in health care until 2013, conveniently after
>>>the next election, and we don't get the full deal going until 2020.
>>
>> Still dickering in Congress. Not that I much like the seeming
>> results thus far. Better by far than rethug care though.
>
>The results you are seeing are results that are typical under 0bama, unless
>they don't count.
Looks like the banks are still open.
Brokers too. Schools too.
My bank statements show no losses.
Payroll funds did not vanish.
Checks can still be used.
Other people will still take US dollars.
Most insurance is still valid AFAIK.
We do not have 40% + unemployment.
>
>>
>>>That's over a decade of dying and suffering. Not the sort of stuff
>>>you hear about in Democrat campaign speeches.
>>>
>>>What he has done is front load the taxes; they start almost
>>>immediately. The government now has a brand new revenue source that
>>>will be flowing in for ten years with zero outlay on their part.
>>
>> A sales tax on stocks & bonds ...
>>
>>>It's hard to conceive that the windfall will not be spent on a lot of
>>>favored pork for favored sons. Not one time projects like fix all the
>>>bridges so they will last another 40 years. It will be spend to start
>>>up new programs that will have to be funded forever.
>>>
>>>When it - finally - becomes time to deliver 0bamaCare, there will be
>>>no money. Fortunately 0bama will have had his eight years and, with
>>>any luck, the disaster of trying to make it work can be laid at the
>>>feet of Republicans.
>>
>> They want disaster NOW.
>
>Winston made a mistake above, he meant 4 years. 0bama is a one trick pony.
What are you blaming "Winston" for?
You are a liar.
--
Cliff