The main reason I did this is to show some "before and after" pix to
help you decide whether this process is for you or not and to add a few
comments:
http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/Rust/ElectrolyticDerusting.htm
Pete Stanaitis
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Excellent page.
Excellent site!!
What the web is all about -- or should have been, at least.
Your section Problem Solving, Influence management, etc was inneresting,
helpful, altho I don't know that Eric Berne's Games People Play will be much
help. Dat goddamm book was written in some kind of effing code. Couldn't
unnerstand a *word*, yo.
I'm relieved, tho, that you didn't cite Dr. Wayne Dyer (Your Erroneous
Zones) or his Tao-Dao-Schmao bullsnot for anything. goodgawd.....
Or Tony Robbins, or any of those other hustlers.
The cite Winning Through Intimidation is ackshooly perty insightful, as it
turns out that almost everything distills down to the crassest eff-you real
estate deal, albeit perhaps with varying degrees of philanthropic do-good
window dressing. Human effing nature, it appears.
Mother Teresa, ultimately, was a hard-nosed bidniss-woman.
Otherwise, you'da never heard of her!! PR, donchaknow.... proly had a
full-time staff.
Good show, tho, on yer site.
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Pete
Lots of good information there.
I will be sending links to friends and family.
thanks for sharing.
Rex
http://www.instructables.com/id/E17UQMY28PEQ6T2A5Z?ALLSTEPS
http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/rust/electrolytic_derusting.htm
http://www.antique-engines.com/electrol.asp
For even more info.
Oh and for folks who cannot find "Washing Soda" you can buy the same
thing at a pool supply place as PH Plus. Wal~Mart even has it!
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Steve W.
a good way of rust removal,
thought Id comment that I do it another way as I dont have constant
leccy off the grid.. To run a charger.
My interest is is in rust removal from wrought iron, ie iron that
been made by the reduction process the way metallic iron was made from
iron ore before the bessemer process was invented in 1866/7.
I collect old iron implements made from wrought iron and to remove the
rust, i first heat to a dull red heat to crack off the heavy scale, then
i use a plastic bucket or suitably sized container to hold the iron
object, then i fill the container to cover the iron with old battery acid.
This i get from our local scrap yard by the 5 gallon full for free.
so it works by itself. Obviously you need to use common sense
handling this stuff, Its not dangerous from the odd drop if you wash off
right away, tho if you get splashes on your jeans ,next time you wash
them youll get holes where the splashes were.
On wrought iron it eats off the rust and some of the iron so when you
remove it from the acid, neutralise with wash up liquid in water, wire
brush aand dry off you will see the original grain structure of the
wrought work.
It looks some times like the grain in wood and when oiled up or waxed
is very beautiful to look at.
i aquired a 90lb silversmiths T stake made about 1800 from wrought iron
with crucible steel fire welded to the top face and its nice enough as
an ornament in my sitting room, even tho its a really useful part of my
silversmiths workshop.
I use battery acid in large amounts anyway to pickle all my silver and
other non ferrous brazed work.
There is a much more powerful pickle called bright dip.
its
70 parts concentrated nitric acid
200 parts ditto sulfuric acid
140 parts of water
1 level teaspoon of common table salt.
all by volume not weight.
if you waqnt to go down this route you need to do a lot of research on
methodology fume cupboards protective face and clothing etc.
have fun
ted
dorset
UK.
Not to rain on your electrolytic parade, but I haven't used ED since I
found Evaporust. Much less fussy.
I was experimenting to remove plating on a scrap
piece and left it in like for derusting. It works much faster than
derusting.
This might be useful for getting an old corroded look in a hurry.
It really makes a horrible mess too.
>Not to rain on your electrolytic parade, but I haven't used ED since I
>found Evaporust. Much less fussy.
Cool looking stuff, but the shipping cost adds more than 50%
additional. Wish there was a distributor near me.
One claim on the company web site that I especially liked was:
"EVAPO-RUST has an indefinite shelf life and can be used over and over
until it absolutely stops working."
So, it works until it won't work anymore - hmmm. Methinks they need a
better copy writer.
Joe
I just found out that our local HF store carries it - 20 bucks a
gallon (plus whatever it takes to keep Gov. Mark Sanford happy, now
that his wealthy wife has moved out).
Thanks for the heads-up, Rex
Joe
Very well done! Bravo Sir!
Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
something damned nasty to all three of them.
Let's see: $20/gal + shipping or $4/gal for muriatic acid, available
everywhere. Can it be that much better? Muriatic acid takes off the
rust, what more do you want?
Bob
Well, it gets pretty nasty-looking after it's removed a lot of rust.
I've never kept any until it absolutely QUIT working.
Can you leave your part in for two weeks without checking it?
My shop is 30 miles from home.
Sometimes I get tied up and can't get back out there when I thought I could.
It's expensive, but it's idiot-proof.
I need that.
Now if we make this newsgroup idiot-proof....
Muriatic acid fumes cause rust to form at an incredible pace so if you
use it to derust you should do it outside and not store the acid anywhere
near anything you don't want an overnight coating of rust to form on.
Art
It's also available at AutoZone stores, which are all over the place.
It's more expensive, but available in smaller amounts: 32 oz. for 9
bucks.
Doug White
*That* would be worth $20/gal + shipping!! <G> Bob
Yep.