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Steve B

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Mar 4, 2010, 11:55:25 AM3/4/10
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I have seen planishing hammers, both el cheapos and the big dogs. I want to
do some sheet metal pieces out of paintlock. Cut them out, then form them.
I want to use various things for a hand hammer. What is good to put under
it to absorb the blow, and help form it. Something soft, but that would
last. I do have some conveyor belt, and could stack strips of it. Wood?
Sand?

Ideas?

Class?

Class?

Steve


sta...@prolynx.com

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Mar 4, 2010, 12:12:49 PM3/4/10
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The standard item for freehand panel beating is the leather sandbag.
Some of the custom car supply places may have such, maybe Eastwood.
Planishing is more of a finishing process, not forming. It's what you
do AFTER you finish beating and/or rolling your panel to fit your
buck. Takes the ridges out so you don't have so much filing to do.
Don't confuse it with stretching and shrinking processes. There's
several books out there on custom sheetmetal work for cars and
motorcycles that go into great detail on it and also have lists of
suppliers. There are also a couple of books on contemporary plate
armor making that do basically the same things but are oriented more
towards the fellow with hammers and a lot of enthusiasm.

Stan

Steve W.

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Mar 4, 2010, 12:27:11 PM3/4/10
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Ye olde leather shot bag. You can buy them or find a good leather shop
and have one made up. I have three.

--
Steve W.

Jim Wilkins

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Mar 4, 2010, 12:53:23 PM3/4/10
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> Steve

A hole in the end of a slice of log works well. I cut mine with the
end of a chainsaw and smoothed it with a blowtorch and hammer. The
metal stretches between the hammer face and the ring of support, it
doesn't have to touch the bottom of the depression. You could try a 3"
or 4" sewer pipe fitting padded with cardboard.

jsw

Larry Jaques

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Mar 5, 2010, 1:00:41 AM3/5/10
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:55:25 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
<desert...@fishymail.net> scrawled the following:

Several old methods include pitch (extremely messy/smelly), leather
covered sandbags, wood, and lead (California Prop 65 Warning). ;)
http://www.repoussetools.com/ has some info.

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David Billington

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Mar 5, 2010, 6:02:53 AM3/5/10
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:55:25 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
> <desert...@fishymail.net> scrawled the following:
>
>
>> I have seen planishing hammers, both el cheapos and the big dogs. I want to
>> do some sheet metal pieces out of paintlock. Cut them out, then form them.
>> I want to use various things for a hand hammer. What is good to put under
>> it to absorb the blow, and help form it. Something soft, but that would
>> last. I do have some conveyor belt, and could stack strips of it. Wood?
>> Sand?
>>
>
> Several old methods include pitch (extremely messy/smelly), leather
> covered sandbags, wood, and lead (California Prop 65 Warning). ;)
> http://www.repoussetools.com/ has some info.
>
Maybe you were using the wrong sort of pitch. The stuff I have for
repousse work is from trees and smelt wonderful when it was fresh, I
used to open the draw it was in and take a whiff on occasions. It still
smells good but no longer has the concentrated odour of a pine forest
anymore. Quite different to roofing pitch.

Glenn Lyford

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Mar 5, 2010, 7:45:16 AM3/5/10
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> What is good to put under it to absorb the blow, and help form it.

One of the simplest I've heard of is to take a 1' long or so section
of old blue jeans, stitch most of the ends, fill with sand, then
stitch up the rest of the way.

I bet you could make a half decent forming tool out of an el cheapo
air hammer by welding a slightly domed plate on the end of an old
chisel shank...might save your elbow compared to swinging a forming
hammer.
--Glenn Lyford

jk

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Mar 7, 2010, 1:52:46 PM3/7/10
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Larry Jaques <lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:


>Several old methods include pitch (extremely messy/smelly),

Jesters pitch is neither messy nor particularly smelly. I have a bowl
of it sitting on my bench in front of me right now.

Not particularly useful for planishing (or dishing and raising)
however. Its real use is in chasing and reposue of soft metals.

> leather
>covered sandbags, wood, and lead (California Prop 65 Warning). ;)
>http://www.repoussetools.com/ has some info.

jk

Wes

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Mar 6, 2010, 6:21:11 PM3/6/10
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"Steve B" <desert...@fishymail.net> wrote:

Steve, I thought you were on weight restrictions. I was willing to believe you were
endowed as in don't lift any thing heavier than your D*ck. I am not beliving a planishing
hammer is in the range of things your doc wants you to swing. :)

Wes
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government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Steve B

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Mar 6, 2010, 10:44:04 PM3/6/10
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"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve B" <desert...@fishymail.net> wrote:
>
>>I have seen planishing hammers, both el cheapos and the big dogs. I want
>>to
>>do some sheet metal pieces out of paintlock. Cut them out, then form
>>them.
>>I want to use various things for a hand hammer. What is good to put under
>>it to absorb the blow, and help form it. Something soft, but that would
>>last. I do have some conveyor belt, and could stack strips of it. Wood?
>>Sand?
>
> Steve, I thought you were on weight restrictions. I was willing to
> believe you were
> endowed as in don't lift any thing heavier than your D*ck. I am not
> beliving a planishing
> hammer is in the range of things your doc wants you to swing. :)
>
> Wes

Actually, I'm getting better. Out of the six angiogram/plasties I have had,
this was the worst. Still sore. But getting things together for soon when
I feel better, and the weather here gets a little better. Been in Vegas for
a few days. Like Gunner, who flees occasionally, I go to Vegas, but have to
do some work. The only thing I have to carry is a camera and a tape measure
and some paperwork.

Saw some nifty gates and iron work which I will be putting on flickr
shortly. Good looking stuff, and very unique.

Steve


Wes

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Mar 7, 2010, 7:37:17 AM3/7/10
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"Steve B" <desert...@fishymail.net> wrote:

>Actually, I'm getting better. Out of the six angiogram/plasties I have had,
>this was the worst. Still sore. But getting things together for soon when
>I feel better, and the weather here gets a little better. Been in Vegas for
>a few days. Like Gunner, who flees occasionally, I go to Vegas, but have to
>do some work. The only thing I have to carry is a camera and a tape measure
>and some paperwork.

Good news on the health side.

>
>Saw some nifty gates and iron work which I will be putting on flickr
>shortly. Good looking stuff, and very unique.

Great, I like looking at those.

Wes

Steve B

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Mar 7, 2010, 11:40:14 AM3/7/10
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"Steve B" <desert...@fishymail.net> wrote

>
> Actually, I'm getting better. Out of the six angiogram/plasties I have
> had, this was the worst. Still sore.

They have gone into my leg so many times, this time, they used a
titanium/nickel alloy star shaped closure. I think they may just use it for
everyone now, though.

Steve


Larry Jaques

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Mar 7, 2010, 5:32:44 PM3/7/10
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:40:14 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
<desert...@fishymail.net> scrawled the following:

>

You'd think they'd start using closable ports nowadays.

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Michael A. Terrell

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Mar 7, 2010, 10:02:44 PM3/7/10
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Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:40:14 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
> <desert...@fishymail.net> scrawled the following:
>
> >
> >"Steve B" <desert...@fishymail.net> wrote
> >>
> >> Actually, I'm getting better. Out of the six angiogram/plasties I have
> >> had, this was the worst. Still sore.
> >
> >They have gone into my leg so many times, this time, they used a
> >titanium/nickel alloy star shaped closure. I think they may just use it for
> >everyone now, though.
>
> You'd think they'd start using closable ports nowadays.


Tupperware? ;-)


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