Ross McKitrick & the WSJ
Cliff
"By KENNETH P. GREEN" (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Kenneth_Green
"American Enterprise Institute ")
[
Over the mid-term, we should consider the proposal of Ross McKitrick, a Canadian
economist, who has suggested what he calls a Tropical Tropospheric Temperature
(T3) tax�that is, taxing carbon dioxide emissions based on changes in the global
average temperature. Ideally, this would be a revenue-neutral tax with all
revenues rebated to the public in the form of reduced distortionary taxes, such
as income tax.
A T3 tax has the advantage that should be attractive to both global warming
skeptics and those who fear Climageddon: If temperatures remain low, as skeptics
believe, the tax will stay low. If temperatures rise sharply, the tax will rise
also, and incentives will grow to decarbonize energy systems around the world.
Carbon taxes are a vastly superior policy option when compared either to
cap-and-trade, or command-and-control regulation. Indexing the tax to the
temperature of the atmosphere that shows anthropogenic change most clearly is
only common sense. Mr. McKitrick suggests starting out small with something
politically innocuous, on the order of 10 to15 cents per ton of carbon dioxide
emitted.
]
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ross_McKitrick
(Cooler Heads Coalition)(Competitive Enterprise Insititute)
Faux owns the WSJ now, right?
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/false-claims-by-mcintyre-and-mckitrick-regarding-the-mann-et-al-1998reconstruction/
"False Claims by McIntyre and McKitrick regarding the Mann et al. (1998)
reconstruction"
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/myths-vs-fact-regarding-the-hockey-stick/
"Myth vs. Fact Regarding the "Hockey Stick""
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/on-yet-another-false-claim-by-mcintyre-and-mckitrick/
"On Yet Another False Claim by McIntyre and McKitrick"
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/02/dummies-guide-to-the-latest-hockey-stick-controversy/
"Dummies guide to the latest �Hockey Stick� controversy"
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Cliff
I M @ good guy
Only, if more GHGs cool the atmosphere more,
reducing CO2 emissions might make it warmer. :-)
GreenHouse Gases are the only thing that cools
the atmosphere, so maybe more GHGs would cool
the atmosphere more.
Is there any scientist stupid enough to disagree
with my claim that GreenHouse Gases are the only
thing that cools the atmosphere?
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
green house gasses transfer energy.
Ouroboros Rex
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:25:41 -0500, Cliff
> <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB40001424052748703278604574623731619386544.html
>> "By KENNETH P. GREEN"
>> (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Kenneth_Green "American
>> Enterprise Institute ") [
>> Over the mid-term, we should consider the proposal of Ross
>> McKitrick, a Canadian economist, who has suggested what he calls a
As usual, the denialist just makes some shit up.
Cliff
wrote:
>On Dec 29, 4:13�am, "I M @ good guy" <I...@good.guy> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:25:41 -0500, Cliff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>> > �http://online.wsj.com/article/SB4000142405274870327860457462373161938...
>> > �"By KENNETH P. GREEN" �(http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Kenneth_Green
>> >"American Enterprise Institute ")
>> >[
>> >Over the mid-term, we should consider the proposal of Ross McKitrick, a Canadian
>> >economist, who has suggested what he calls a Tropical Tropospheric Temperature
>> >(T3) tax�that is, taxing carbon dioxide emissions based on changes in the global
>> >average temperature. Ideally, this would be a revenue-neutral tax with all
>> >revenues rebated to the public in the form of reduced distortionary taxes, such
>> >as income tax.
>>
>> >A T3 tax has the advantage that should be attractive to both global warming
>> >skeptics and those who fear Climageddon: If temperatures remain low, as skeptics
>> >believe, the tax will stay low. If temperatures rise sharply, the tax will rise
>> >also, and incentives will grow to decarbonize energy systems around the world.
>> >Carbon taxes are a vastly superior policy option when compared either to
>> >cap-and-trade, or command-and-control regulation. Indexing the tax to the
>> >temperature of the atmosphere that shows anthropogenic change most clearly is
>> >only common sense. Mr. McKitrick suggests starting out small with something
>> >politically innocuous, on the order of 10 to15 cents per ton of carbon dioxide
>> >emitted.
>> >]
>>
>> > �http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ross_McKitrick
>> >(Cooler Heads Coalition)(Competitive Enterprise Insititute)
>>
>> > �Faux owns the WSJ now, right?
>>
>> >http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/false-claims-by...
>> > �"False Claims by McIntyre and McKitrick regarding the Mann et al. (1998)
>> >reconstruction"
>>
>> >http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/myths-vs-fact-r...
>> > �"Myth vs. Fact Regarding the "Hockey Stick""
>>
>> >http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/on-yet-another-...
>> > �"On Yet Another False Claim by McIntyre and McKitrick"
>>
>> >http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/02/dummies-guide-t...
>> > �"Dummies guide to the latest �Hockey Stick� controversy"
>>
>> � � � � �Only, if more GHGs cool the atmosphere more,
>> reducing CO2 emissions might make it warmer. �:-)
>>
>> � � � � �GreenHouse Gases are the only thing that cools
>> the atmosphere, so maybe more GHGs would cool
>> the atmosphere more. �
>>
>> � � � � Is there any scientist stupid enough to disagree
>> with my claim that GreenHouse Gases are the only
>> thing that cools the atmosphere?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>You are a fucking idiot
So, it seems, are KENNETH P. GREEN & Ross_McKitrick.
Taxing the heat.
Great idea, right? After all the time McKitrick
spent denying it existed.
Then wait several thousand years for the ever-increasing heat to decide
it does not want to pay the taxes ....
--
Cliff
Cliff
"You are confused." - Tom Downey
--
Cliff
richp
reducing CO2 emissions might make it warmer. :-)
GreenHouse Gases are the only thing that cools
the atmosphere, so maybe more GHGs would cool
the atmosphere more.
Is there any scientist stupid enough to disagree
with my claim that GreenHouse Gases are the only
thing that cools the atmosphere? <<
The above statement is as stupid as a June day is long
HH&C
<Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB4000142405274870327860457462373161938...
> "By KENNETH P. GREEN" (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Kenneth_Green
> "American Enterprise Institute ")
> [
> Over the mid-term, we should consider the proposal of Ross McKitrick, a Canadian
> economist, who has suggested what he calls a Tropical Tropospheric Temperature
> (T3) tax—that is, taxing carbon dioxide emissions based on changes in the global
> average temperature. Ideally, this would be a revenue-neutral tax with all
> revenues rebated to the public in the form of reduced distortionary taxes, such
> as income tax.
>
> A T3 tax has the advantage that should be attractive to both global warming
> skeptics and those who fear Climageddon: If temperatures remain low, as skeptics
> believe, the tax will stay low. If temperatures rise sharply, the tax will rise
> also, and incentives will grow to decarbonize energy systems around the world.
> Carbon taxes are a vastly superior policy option when compared either to
> cap-and-trade, or command-and-control regulation. Indexing the tax to the
> temperature of the atmosphere that shows anthropogenic change most clearly is
> only common sense. Mr. McKitrick suggests starting out small with something
> politically innocuous, on the order of 10 to15 cents per ton of carbon dioxide
> emitted.
> ]
>
> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ross_McKitrick
> (Cooler Heads Coalition)(Competitive Enterprise Insititute)
>
> Faux owns the WSJ now, right?
>
> "False Claims by McIntyre and McKitrick regarding the Mann et al. (1998)
> reconstruction"
>
> "Myth vs. Fact Regarding the "Hockey Stick""
>
> "On Yet Another False Claim by McIntyre and McKitrick"
>
> "Dummies guide to the latest “Hockey Stick” controversy"
>
> --
> Cliff
You and your Canadian economist have never considered that warming or
cooling could be anything other than man-made.
So you tax is absurd.
Cliff
wrote:
I posted to demonstrate what seems like utter idiocy from
someone (2, actually) that should have known better.
> have never considered that warming or
>cooling could be anything other than man-made.
Like magical fairy dust?
What?
Winger hot air?
>So you tax is absurd.
Not my tax.
McKitrick is a denier & a winger it seems.
You really have not the slightest clue what any of this is about, do you?
--
Cliff
Roger Coppock
<Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB4000142405274870327860457462373161938...
> "By KENNETH P. GREEN" (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Kenneth_Green
> "American Enterprise Institute ")
> [
> Over the mid-term, we should consider the proposal of Ross McKitrick, a Canadian
> economist, who has suggested what he calls a Tropical Tropospheric Temperature
> (T3) tax—that is, taxing carbon dioxide emissions based on changes in the global
> average temperature. Ideally, this would be a revenue-neutral tax with all
Which is it tropical tropospheric temperature or
global average temperature? Greenhouse gas
theory and measurements over the last century
say that the topics warm slower than the poles.
Please see:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/GISS_ZonAnn_Latitude.jpg
Claudius Denk
<columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 29, 4:13 am, "I M @ good guy" <I...@good.guy> wrote:""
>
> green house gasses transfer energy.
Aha, then you would agree that those that say greenhouse gases trap
energy are either mistaken or dishonest. Right?
Answer the question.
Cliff
wrote:
He said "Tropical" so that's probably another intentional effort to
obscure things & add red herrings from the deniers & wingers.
Good catch; I'd missed that.
As the whole concept was so stupid.
>Please see:
>
>http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/GISS_ZonAnn_Latitude.jpg
Interesting.
HH&C
wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 08:34:57 -0800 (PST), "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com>
You and your Canadian economist.
> > have never considered that warming or
> >cooling could be anything other than man-made.
>
> Like magical fairy dust?
> What?
> Winger hot air?
Like exactly 100% of climate change prior to the present era.
> >So your tax is absurd.
>
> Not my tax.
> McKitrick is a denier & a winger it seems.
>
> You really have not the slightest clue what any of this is about, do you?
> --
> Cliff-
Yes. You are being paid to spam the newsgroups.