Obama Takes A Break From Bangin Joe788's Momma...
Joe788
Perhaps Obama will be known for something else other than "The
President Of Hittin That Ass":
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/02/what-the-stimul/
It's about fucking time this country did something about this long
standing problem! 8 Billion ain't shit but it's a start. No matter how
corrupt, no matter how over budget, no matter what...
It's about time, motherfuckers.
Joe788
Joe788
A truly Banquerific idea. It's not fiscally viable in the private
sector, so let's throw imaginary funny money at it! What's another 8
billion when the budget is already upside down by 1.75 trillion? YAY!
Joe788
Joe788
http://www.kcbs.com/High-Speed-Rail-Could-Boost-Factory-Jobs/6230773
Joe788
> Don't believe it? We already have one high speed rail system, Acela
> Express. The system was built by a joint venture between Alstom and
> Bombardier. Built with borrowed money it operates at a loss every single
> day, week after week, year after year. And it operates in the most densley
> populated rail corridor in the US. Imagine the cost of running empty high
> speed trains between Tampa and Orlando.
Fuck, Florida. Florida should get nothing. Lets give the entire state
back to the Indians we forced into that fucking swamp.
> At least Bombardier manufactured some of it in the US. Who knows if that
> will happen with this porker?
It's far better that absolutely nothing done by Carter, Regan, Bush
Sr., Clinton and Bush Jr.
> High speed rail is just another photo op/reward scheme for politically
> connected donors as well as a bad idea that we can't afford. The government
> has a piss poor track record at managing big projects to boot.
It's far better that absolutely nothing done by Carter, Regan, Bush
Sr., Clinton and Bush Jr.
> Biden has been bringing home the pork for Amtrak for 30 years. This is just
> over the top, even for him.
It was better than doing nothing.
Joe788
What Arnold had to say back in 08:
"We have to move forward with this project."
"Our rail system in America is so old we are driving the same speed as
we did a hundred years ago".
"We should do what other countries do. All over the world we see high
speed rails that go 200 to 300 mph. We should do the same thing in
this country."
larryrozer
So throwing good money in an ever expanding black hole is better than
spending money wisely?
Not surprising coming from an employee of a not for profit in-house
machine shop.
Joe788
Joe788
Joe788
"California the biggest winner
California will get $2.34 billion, the largest award, to help set up a
high-speed line between San Diego and Sacramento by 2026. Top speeds
on the line, which would go through Los Angeles and the San Francisco
Bay Area, would hit 220 miles per hour. State officials say they need
high-speed rail to lessen the load on the state's roads and airports
California expects its population to grow by 13.5 million during the
next 20 years. That would mean an added 90 million to 115 million
interregional or intercity trips. Without high-speed trains, those
travelers would require 2,970 more miles of freeway lanes, five new
runways, and 90 new airport gates for a cost of $82 billion, some
estimates suggest.
“It’s the boldest move I’ve seen since Eisenhower proposed the
interstate highway system,” Mehdi Morshed, executive director of the
California High Speed Rail Authority told the Monitor in a recent
interview."
larryrozer
That was back in 08, times have changed.
Take a look at the map you linked to, how much money do you think it
will take to build all of those high speed routes?
The federal funds are but a in the bucket for these projects.
For California's proposed high speed rail system alone they are
estimating it will cost $42.6 BILLION to build. If history repeats,
cost overruns will make it 2 to 10 times higher
States are already bleeding red ink. Who's going to pick up the bill
when history repeats itself and these projects bleed red ink each year
as well?
Michael A. Terrell
The US isn't crammed into tiny spaces like those european countries
where rail makes more sense.
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
Martin H. Eastburn
Not all that many. Maybe 2x from the train daily run max.
Half extra at each end. So how many ? 40 or 60 total ?
Oh what about the East coast ones - about the same for each.
Just a blip in the road to zero.
And they (train operator) wants them at onset!
Martin
D Murphy wrote:
> Joe788 <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:e195a010-1575-4480-9946-
> 435ab0...@u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
>> High Speed Rail Could Boost Factory Jobs
>>
>> http://www.kcbs.com/High-Speed-Rail-Could-Boost-Factory-Jobs/6230773
>>
>
> [SAN FRANCISCO (KCBS/AP) -- The $2.35 billion of stimulus money set aside
> for California’s high speed rail project could create new jobs at long-
> closed factories.
>
> President Barack Obama on Thursday formally awarded money to California and
> other rail projects around the country as part of a renewed push to create
> new jobs through infrastructure projects.
>
> There are imperiled and shuttered factories across the country that could
> be making parts and cars for major rail projects in Florida, Chicago and
> the Pacific Northwest, said Quentin Copp of the California High Speed Rail
> Authority.
>
> He compared the probable impact for facilities like the NUMMI plant in
> Fremont to what happened during World War II after the Depression. “It was
> done for military tanks in World War II which was some 70 years ago, so it
> ought to be susceptible to the same kind of transformation for high speed
> rail cars.”]
>
> Idiots. Actually the correct term would be lying c*(%suckers. There's no
> such thing as a "shuttered factory", at best it's an empty building and at
> worst it's a superfund site. You certainly can't take down the "shutters",
> flip a switch and start building high speed rail systems.
>
> There are no US owned companies that build high speed rail. So we are going
> to borrow billions of dollars from China to give away to foreign
> manufacturers to build a system that will operate in the red every single
> day.
>
> With any luck the government will dole out maintenence contracts to
> politically connected donors that will hire illegal immigrants to clean the
> trains. So at least someone will be employed.
>
> Don't believe it? We already have one high speed rail system, Acela
> Express. The system was built by a joint venture between Alstom and
> Bombardier. Built with borrowed money it operates at a loss every single
> day, week after week, year after year. And it operates in the most densley
> populated rail corridor in the US. Imagine the cost of running empty high
> speed trains between Tampa and Orlando.
>
> At least Bombardier manufactured some of it in the US. Who knows if that
> will happen with this porker?
>
> High speed rail is just another photo op/reward scheme for politically
> connected donors as well as a bad idea that we can't afford. The government
> has a piss poor track record at managing big projects to boot.
>
> Read this - http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05698t.pdf and this
> http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-05-152
CalifBill
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4B664EF8...@earthlink.net...
Plus they said it was shovel ready. Was stupid when the voters passed the
proposition and there is not even an semi coherent idea on where to run the
rails today.
Michael A. Terrell
It's another bunch of useless pork.
Joe788
> Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:e195a010-1575-4480-9946-
> 435ab0a16...@u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > High Speed Rail Could Boost Factory Jobs
>
> >http://www.kcbs.com/High-Speed-Rail-Could-Boost-Factory-Jobs/6230773
>
>
> Biden has been bringing home the pork for Amtrak for 30 years. This is just
> over the top, even for him.
>
>
> Dan
Banquer refuses your reality, and substitutes his own.
Joe788
Banquer doesn't accept your reality. so he'll just copy/paste the same
spam over and over, and then log in with his other alias so he can
rate his posts with the prestigious "5 stars." Those "5 stars" mean
people agree with him.....don't they??
Joe788
asshole and allowing my adoration and admiration for you drive me to
make outrageous lies and accusations. Dude, you are the bomb! You are
seriously Joe Cool. I can't promise that my behavior will ever
improve. I'm have a moment of clarity and wanted to publicly apologize
for even thinking I could ever come close to be as cool as you are. I
just hope you get to read this before I come back to my stark raving
madness and rip my post down!
Joe788
Joe788
Hahaha! Looks like maybe Jonny is having a little trouble at home.
Burn the wrong bridge, did you Jon?
Cliff
>Hahaha! Looks like maybe Jonny is having a little trouble at home.
I think that was Tom.
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Cliff
Cliff
The economy is showing signs of recovering due to his actions.
Remember what the rethugs left him with. Takes time to fix ...
huge damages.
Though Faux was whining yesterday that not enough people have
been tossed out of their homes by the banks (or fast enough) or enough
credit cut off.
--
Cliff
Joe788
wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:40:33 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <joemama...@aol.com> wrote:
> >Hahaha! Looks like maybe Jonny is having a little trouble at home.
>
> I think that was Tom.
> --
> Cliff
Click the profile. It's Jon. Well...not really Jon, but somebody using
his computer or somebody who knows his password.