Fox News...Unfair and Imbalanced....LYING WINGERS BUSTED YET AGAIN
Too_Many_Tools
The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
TMT
Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire
for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people
to charge that the cable news network is intentionally misleading its
audience, while Fox claims a "production error."
Wednesday's incident occurred when Fox News host Gregg Jarrett
mentioned that a Sarah Palin appearance and book signing in Grand
Rapids, Michigan had a massive turnout. As footage rolled of a smiling
and waving Palin amidst a throng of fans, Jarrett noted that the
former Republican vice-presidential candidate is "continuing to draw
huge crowds while she's promoting her brand-new book,'' adding that
the images being shown were "some of the pictures just coming in to
us.... The lines earlier had formed this morning."
However, the video used in the segment was from a 2008 McCain/Palin
campaign rally. In response to the minor uproar that arose after clips
of Jarrett's report hit the Internet, Fox senior vice-president of
news Michael Clemente issued an initial statement saying, "This was a
production error in which the copy editor changed a script and didn't
alert the control room to update the video."
On Thursday afternoon, Fox News issued an on-air apology delivered by
host Jane Skinner:
Yesterday we told you about Sarah Palin kicking off her book tour and
then we spoke to Sean Hannity about an interview that he did with
former Governor Palin. When introducing the segment we showed you
footage of people lining up in Michigan for a book signing that
evening. In the tease before the segment, the tease to commercial, we
told you how those people were already lining up to meet Palin. The
problem is we didn't show you the video we were actually referencing.
Instead we mistakenly aired what's called "file tape" of Sarah Palin.
We didn't mean to mislead anybody in that tease. It was a mistake, and
for that we apologize.
The current mishap comes on the heels of a controversy sparked last
week when footage from a conservative rally held over the summer was
played on "Hannity" during a segment on a more recent rally. During
the clip, host Sean Hannity marveled over the large turnout for a
Washington, DC protest. The Daily Show later pointed out that there
seemed to be some inconsistencies with the video shown on Hannity's
show, namely that the atmospheric conditions seemed to vary from shot
to shot. Hannity later apologized on the air for what he called "an
inadvertent mistake."
Buerste
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> TMT
>
> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
> Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
>
OH NO!!! NOT "MISLEADING VIDEOS"!!! To bad for FOX is wasn't something
trivial like forging official Government documents, that would have been OK.
Fred B. Brown
with voter recognition in the 2012 election.
"Barack who?"
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RONSERESURPLUS
> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> TMT
>
> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
> Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
>
> For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire
> for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people
Yes, Yea, Of Course, if it were CNN, MSNBC or so many of the other
'GREATS" in News that would Side with the leftist Dems and that 1 Run
wonder Barack Hussian Obama, you'd be all for it, RIGHT? Funny how
your slant is JUST SO OBVIOUS? New shows do so for ratings good or bad
thats what they do, Fox is Far better than so many others but is still
in it for that! When you start holding the MOOK DEM SUPPORTING ONES
LIKE CNN and MSNBC someone might listen to your complaints? Till then,
well, accept this BOOB AWARD!
RON
Straightarrow
You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
demorat/progressive in congress that told us if they passed that $850
BILLION pork bill unemployment wouldn't go over 8% ?? What about lies
told by the same bunch of thugs that claimed there were THOUSANDS of
jobs saved/created when according to your Messiah himself counting
"saved" jobs is not a fine science?? The money went somewhere !! Where
did the $BILLIONS go?? Anybody want to bet it was ACORN and SEIU?? You
kooks think you can take the spotlight of truth off the crooked
cockroaches running the country now by going after Palin. But,it ain't
working.
Curly Surmudgeon
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a1b451ca-593d-425d-9789-
fafdaf...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>
>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>>
>> TMT
>>
>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm
>> ET
>>
>>
> OH NO!!! NOT "MISLEADING VIDEOS"!!! To bad for FOX is wasn't something
> trivial like forging official Government documents, that would have been
> OK.
No, it is not ok. Since you imply that an opposing network has "forged
official Government documents" show us where that happened.
--
Regards, Curly
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2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
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Curly Surmudgeon
<RONSERE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> On Nov 20, 12:29�am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>
>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>>
>> TMT
>>
>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm
>> ET
>>
>> For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire
>> for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people
>> to charge that the SNIPPED FOR LEFTIST HORSESHIT!
>
>
>
> Barack Hussian Obama, you start holdings good or slant is Far bad that
> then, well, accept the other 'GREATS" in it for rating that 1 Run
> wonder Barack Hussian someone might listen to your complaints? Till
> they do, Fox is JUST SO OBVIOUS? News do so many holding thats what
> were CNN, MSNBC or so for this Far bad than Obama, you still for
> someone might list Dems and MSNBC so many of thers but is BOOB AWARD!
> Yes, Yea, Of Course, if it for so many holdings good or ratings good or
> rating than Obama, your
>
>
> RON
Your writing style improves...
Curly Surmudgeon
<hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
HOwever you leave out any of the wacko right politicians and this thread
is on network television that received a federal license which requires
truth, not distortion of reality: "As public trustees, broadcasters may
not intentionally distort the news. Broadcasters are responsible for
deciding what their stations present to the public. The FCC has stated
publicly that “rigging or slanting the news is a most heinous act against
the public interest.” The FCC does act to protect the public interest
where it has received documented evidence of such rigging or slanting."
Further, "The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a
crime or catastrophe violates the FCC's rules if: the station licensee
knew that the information was false, broadcasting the false information
directly causes substantial public harm, and it was foreseeable that
broadcasting the false information would cause such harm.
The focus here is Fox "News". And from licensee rules and regulations
could lose their broadcast license for intentionally lying. Your segue
into politicians is a good topic but misplaced here.
Dan
Can you point to a recent story where forged documents were used?
(Do NOT embarrass yourself by making unsubstantiated claims about the
Dan Rather program on Bush's AWOL status).
Dan
Buerste
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:nscdg5l5vpj9pe4et...@4ax.com...
Except that Democrats get a pass.
Buerste
"Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:x7ANm.53026$gg6....@newsfe25.iad...
Don't you read? Where did I say that forged documents were used? I said it
would be OK to do that.
Buerste
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
news:he6cqb$c76$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
Are you inferring that I implied what you are insinuating?
Curly Surmudgeon
No, I asked for a reputable cite for your implication that an opposing
network has "forged official Government documents" Sorry if you don't
understand it but I don't know how to dumb it down any further.
Hawke
All this does is add more proof that Fox is not a legitimate news
outlet. It's opinion and propaganda. It's the media arm of the
republican party. Everything that comes on that network has a goal to
it, tear down the Democratic party and Democrats in general and do
everything it can to get republicans elected to public office. The only
thing that bothers me about what they do is the lying. If they would
just admit what they are doing it would be okay. But they have to
pretend they are not pro republican. But what do you expect from an
outfit filled with conservatives? Lying is a way of life for them so
that is what they give us.
Hawke
Hawke
> You want to discuss "lies"? How about the lies from
> Obama,Biden,Pelosi,Reid,Fwank and every crooked,corrupt sleazebag
> demorat/progressive in congress that told us if they passed that $850
> BILLION pork bill unemployment wouldn't go over 8% ?? What about lies
> told by the same bunch of thugs that claimed there were THOUSANDS of
> jobs saved/created when according to your Messiah himself counting
> "saved" jobs is not a fine science?? The money went somewhere !! Where
> did the $BILLIONS go?? Anybody want to bet it was ACORN and SEIU?? You
> kooks think you can take the spotlight of truth off the crooked
> cockroaches running the country now by going after Palin. But,it ain't
> working.
I see a job possibility for you at Fox News. You were able to take a
prediction of the Obama administration regarding future job losses from
the worst recession since the 30s and turn that into "lying". The
economists working for the White House had economic models showing them
that unemployment would probably not go much past eight percent. Time
has passed and it turns out the recession is even worse than expected
and their estimate was off by 2%. You have turned that 2% miss in the
economic forecast into a lie. Like I said, that kind of bullshit
qualifies you for Fox News. I'd put in an application if I was you. You
really know how to turn a mountain into a molehill. Now if you can do
the even harder part, which is making republican blunders look like
successes you'll be working at Fox in no time.
Hawke
Dan
Huh?
Gotta love the Republican double speak: "Some people have said..."
What, exactly, did you MEAN, then?
Dan
Dan
Well, it is interesting that you give Democrats a pass (sure doesn't
appear to be the case in your writing, but, well, you wouldn't LIE,
would you?).
None of the Democrats I know give the Democrats a pass, unlike many of
the Republicans I know...
Did you think [sic] you had a point?
Dan
Buerste
You're saying that I implied "forged official Government documents".
im-ply-verb
(used with object), -plied, -plying.1.to indicate or suggest without being
explicitly stated
Get back to me when I explicitly state something. Sorry if you don't
Too_Many_Tools
> > wrote:
>
> >> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
If they admitted their bias, I suspect their license would be pulled.
If they keep doing it, it just might be.
TMT
Buerste
I doubt that you've ever met a conservative.
Buerste
> crude propaganda. There are some people who think that WWF wrestling
> is the real deal too though. Even crude propaganda works on some
> people. Some of them even post here.
Thank God you have Kos, Move-on and Huffington to get the REAL truth from!
Buerste
TMT
********************
Liberals would like nothing more than to disband ANY voice against their
agenda. And, they would do anything to achieve those ends. The end
justifies the means for them.
Curly Surmudgeon
> You're plenty dumb, but did you have a cite or not?
That Buerste cannot provide a cite is pretty clear evidence that he just
made up some more bullshit. Have you noticed that he does the Texas Two-
Step when caught making shit up?
Just like Gummer.
Curly Surmudgeon
> "Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:WKDNm.22282$gi1....@newsfe19.iad...
>> Buerste wrote:
>>> "Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>>> news:nscdg5l5vpj9pe4et...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:a1b451ca-593d-425d-9789-
fafdaf...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TMT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video Thu Nov 19, 3:36
>>>>>> pm ET
>>>>>>
>>>>> OH NO!!! NOT "MISLEADING VIDEOS"!!! To bad for FOX is wasn't
>>>>> something trivial like forging official Government documents, that
>>>>> would have been OK.
>>>> A lie is a lie and accountability is accountability.
>>>
>>> Except that Democrats get a pass.
>>
>> Well, it is interesting that you give Democrats a pass (sure doesn't
>> appear to be the case in your writing, but, well, you wouldn't LIE,
>> would you?).
>>
>> None of the Democrats I know give the Democrats a pass, unlike many of
>> the Republicans I know...
>>
>> Did you think [sic] you had a point?
>>
>> Dan
>
> I doubt that you've ever met a conservative.
So what? You seem to think Bush was a great president. Why would you
expect anyone to believe or give a shit what you "doubt"?
Curly Surmudgeon
> "Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:daseg5l4hk36rb1fl...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:09:22 -0800, Hawke
>> <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Deucalion wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:a1b451ca-593d-425d-9789-
fafdaf...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
You're too fucking stupid to bear any longer. Into the Bozo filter for
30 days.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
ROFLMAO!!
Point, set and match!!
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
Gunner Asch
wrote:
As Im sure you all remember..the Leftards tried to reinvoke the Fairness
Doctrine recently.
However..when it was brought to their attention that ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN
would also be required to have Conservtives on the air..I suspect they
pulled back so fast they got whiplash.
Ed Huntress
> typed. I wonder if he even tries to read what he is replying to?
Gunner hasn't had strings on his racquet for 20 years. The ball keeps going
by him but he doesn't notice, and he just says "point, set, and match."
It reminds him of his younger days, when he was a star on the international
tennis circuit. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:luifg51d156sg7ufl...@4ax.com...
The thing that killed it was that they were told that they'd need to have as
many psychotics as FOX has on the air, for balance. But FOX has them all
under contract.
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
Tom (Buerste) has been taking lessons from Gunner for a while now. They're
up to lesson #5: How to Cut and Paste Things Without Having To Read Them
First.
It's in the wrist, and it depends on fast repetitions. Tom is catching on
slowly.
--
Ed Huntress
Poetic Justice
> crude propaganda. There are some people who think that WWF wrestling
> is the real deal too though. Even crude propaganda works on some
> people. Some of them even post here.
You are them...
Ever see movie or read a book where the bad guys turn out to really be
good guys?
Michael A. Terrell
Ed Huntress wrote:
>
> The thing that killed it was that they were told that they'd need to have as
> many psychotics as FOX has on the air, for balance. But FOX has them all
> under contract.
So, you, hawkie & cliffie work for Fox?
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Poetic Justice
> sometime in the future.
Liberals do things based on their vision of the their Utopia... they
just call it HOPE and CHANGE. So far Obama-topia has been Depression
and Unemployment.
Ed Huntress
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:PqWdnexsy68rmJXW...@earthlink.com...
>
> Ed Huntress wrote:
>>
>> The thing that killed it was that they were told that they'd need to have
>> as
>> many psychotics as FOX has on the air, for balance. But FOX has them all
>> under contract.
>
>
> So, you, hawkie & cliffie work for Fox?
Wow, Michael. That whip-crackin' wit of yours keeps getting sharper and
sharper. Before you know it, they'll be calling you to do a stand-up comic
routine. d8-)
>
>
> --
> The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
In your neighborhood, they probably think it is.
--
Ed Huntress
Too_Many_Tools
> "Dan" <dnada...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:WKDNm.22282$gi1....@newsfe19.iad...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Buerste wrote:
> >> "Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> >>news:nscdg5l5vpj9pe4et...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:a1b451ca-593d-425d...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> >>>>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> >>>>> TMT
>
> >>>>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
> >>>>> Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
>
> >>>> OH NO!!! NOT "MISLEADING VIDEOS"!!! To bad for FOX is wasn't something
> >>>> trivial like forging official Government documents, that would have
> >>>> been OK.
> >>> A lie is a lie and accountability is accountability.
>
> >> Except that Democrats get a pass.
>
> > Well, it is interesting that you give Democrats a pass (sure doesn't
> > appear to be the case in your writing, but, well, you wouldn't LIE, would
> > you?).
>
> > None of the Democrats I know give the Democrats a pass, unlike many of the
> > Republicans I know...
>
> > Did you think [sic] you had a point?
>
> > Dan
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I know I am not talking to one now.
A REAL conservative would be working overtime fixing the Republican
Party instead of playing the blame game with the winning opposition
Party.
I see few of the wagging winger tongues here pushing for true reform
in the Republican Party.
Palin is a perfect example...let's parade a pair of aging tits around
and see if the old fat white men reach for their Viagra.
Make serious changes and then the American voter will take you
seriously.
Now they are laughing at you...just like I am.
TMT
Michael A. Terrell
Ed Huntress wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:PqWdnexsy68rmJXW...@earthlink.com...
> >
> > Ed Huntress wrote:
> >>
> >> The thing that killed it was that they were told that they'd need to have
> >> as
> >> many psychotics as FOX has on the air, for balance. But FOX has them all
> >> under contract.
> >
> >
> > So, you, hawkie & cliffie work for Fox?
>
> Wow, Michael. That whip-crackin' wit of yours keeps getting sharper and
> sharper. Before you know it, they'll be calling you to do a stand-up comic
> routine. d8-)
Yeah, I'm almost as funny as you and your claims to greatness.
> > The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
>
> In your neighborhood, they probably think it is.
More of your half-vast knowledge? It seems you are clueless at map
reading as well. No surprise, though.
Too_Many_Tools
>
> - Show quoted text -
Fox is digging their own hole.
I look forward to the dirt caving in on them.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:51:59 -0500, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:03:21 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >>"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote in message
> >>news:he6npc$n8c$5...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:19:35 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> "Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:he6cqb$c76$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:a1b451ca-593d-425d-9789-
> >>>>> fafdaf427...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> >>>>>>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> >>>>>>> TMT
>
> >>>>>>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video Thu Nov 19, 3:36
> >>>>>>> pm ET
>
> >>>>>> OH NO!!! NOT "MISLEADING VIDEOS"!!! To bad for FOX is wasn't
> >>>>>> something trivial like forging official Government documents, that
> >>>>>> would have been OK.
>
> >>>>> No, it is not ok. Since you imply that an opposing network has
> >>>>> "forged official Government documents" show us where that happened.
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Regards, Curly
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>>> Are you inferring that I implied what you are insinuating?
>
> >>> No, I asked for a reputable cite for your implication that an opposing
> >>> network has "forged official Government documents" Sorry if you don't
> >>> understand it but I don't know how to dumb it down any further.
>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards, Curly
>
> >>> 2012
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> >>You're saying that I implied "forged official Government documents".
>
> >>im-ply-verb
> >>(used with object), -plied, -plying.1.to indicate or suggest without
> >>being explicitly stated
>
> >>Get back to me when I explicitly state something. Sorry if you don't
> >>understand it but I don't
> >>know how to dumb it down any further.
>
> > You're plenty dumb, but did you have a cite or not?
>
> That Buerste cannot provide a cite is pretty clear evidence that he just
> made up some more bullshit. Have you noticed that he does the Texas Two-
> Step when caught making shit up?
>
> Just like Gummer.
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
> 2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
>
> - Show quoted text -
You are SO RIGHT Curly.
Considering how alike those two are, I am starting to think they are
related.
TMT
Curly Surmudgeon
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:33:14 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:30ce89b7-0570-4848...@e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>>On Nov 20, 2:09 pm, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>>> Deucalion wrote:
>>> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> >>news:a1b451ca-593d-425d-9789-
fafdaf...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> The neo-cons invaded countries based on things that they might do
> sometime in the future.
Not just neocons but religionists, Republicans and Democrats alike. They
were force fed lies until quaking in fear. Fear drove them to commit
acts of violence. Fear drove them to fabricate strawmen to attack. Fear
caused them to torture. Fear caused them to attack we who disagreed.
Fear caused them to eat their own. Fear caused them to destroy our
country.
Fear has morphed into embarrassment. Now they are embarrassed at having
been punked. Embarrassed at their actions. Embarrassed of their
leaders. Embarrassed for their lies. Embarrassed that their programs
failed so miserably. Embarrassed that they destroyed our economy.
Embarrassed for their failures.
So they attempt to distract, divert, misdirect and lie their way out of
multiple embarrassments making the situation even worse. "More of the
same, even nuttier" is their war cry.
Crazymotherfuckers, one and all. Note the correlation between Bushbots,
neocons, Republicans, the Bush Administration and crazymotherfuckers.
It's close to a 1:1 correlation. The crazymotherfuckers *BELIEVE*
therefore it is true. No critical thinking needed.
Crazymotherfuckers. Whether it be lies, superstition or belief makes no
difference. They make shit up, fear their made up shit and behave like
barbarians. Stop giving them credulity by discussing their fantasies.
Give them what they deserve, ridicule. Ridiculous crazymotherfuckers.
--
Regards, Curly
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Too_Many_Tools
wrote:
Hey what about me? ;<)
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote in messagenews:PqWdnexsy68rmJXW...@earthlink.com...
You should see him around electricity.
Everyone around kills fried...kind of like hanging around Bush.
TMT
Curly Surmudgeon
<PoeticJustice@talk-n-dog...com> wrote:
> Deucalion wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:33:14 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:30ce89b7-0570-4848-
bd18-725...@e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 20, 2:09 pm, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>>>> Deucalion wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:a1b451ca-593d-425d-9789-
fafdaf...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
More distractions, misdirections and fears. Take responsibility for the
leaders and programs you supported so vociferously.
Curly Surmudgeon
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:29:22 -0500, Poetic Justice
> <PoeticJustice@talk-n-dog...com> wrote:
>
>>Deucalion wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:33:14 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:30ce89b7-0570-4848-
bd18-725...@e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Nov 20, 2:09 pm, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>>>>> Deucalion wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:a1b451ca-593d-425d-9789-
fafdaf...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> Both of which not only began, but escalated, under the previous
> administration. There were many decisions, by both major political
> parties, that got us to where we are now. The question is whether a
> continuation of the same policies that got us to where we are now is the
> solution or do we need to do something different?
>
> IMO, continuation of failed policies is not the answer. Is Obama's
> decision to break the paradigm by doing things different the answer? I
> don't think it is. However, sitting on the sidelines and criticizing,
> while offering no creative solutions, is unproductive. I think that he
> is wrong. I hope that he is right because, if he isn't, we are only in
> the early stages of something that is very dark and ugly.
>
> If that happens, do we blame Obama? Do we blame Bush? Do we blame
> Clinton? Perhaps we blame Regan and the first Bush? How about Ford and
> Carter? I personally would blame them all for being influenced
> (managed?) by the corporate interests who placed priority on short term
> gains while ignoring long term consequences. However, blame is not a
> solution.
>
> What we need right now are people who can think outside the box and find
> unique solutions to a unique situation. Solutions that rebuild the
> middle class. Solutions that solve the complex problems of energy
> dependence, loss of the manufacturing base, protecting the middle and
> lower class from the unfair lending practices of lenders. Practices
> that allow the rich to manipulate the financial markets to steal money
> from those who aren't part of the special group with access to insider
> information.
>
> We need solutions that return to the concept of fiscal responsibility.
> We need solutions that put America first as opposed to the globalist
> agenda that is prevalent today. We need to stop spending untold amounts
> of money interfering in other countries sovereignty. We need a paradigm
> shift from the "me first" philosophy to one where Americans care about
> their fellow citizens and want to help those countrymen who are less
> fortunate. Basically, we need to curb personal greed and move towards
> nationalism. America can only be a benefit to the less fortunate in
> other countries if we are financially, politically, and morally strong
> ourselves. We can't help the third world by joining it.
>
> If you think that these are "liberal" concepts, then I'll wear the label
> with pride. I love my country and I care enough about my fellow
> citizens who have suffered many hurts because of political and corporate
> greed enough that I am willing to invest my time trying to help them by
> volunteering my time to programs that help them. That a high percentage
> of Americans cannot afford to buy food during the past year is
> unconscionable.
>
> If you want to join in with those who want to scapegoat others so that
> you can go to bed at night feeling good because you think that your
> group has a patent on the right thing although they can't articulate
> exactly what the right thing is, feel free to do so. However, it would
> be nice if you didn't think that those who don't buy the propaganda are
> evil. It would be even nicer if you realized that you only feel that
> way because you choose to listen to the propaganda from one of the
> political parties that was developed and paid for by corporate interests
> who intend to make a profit by winning you over to their side.
>
> To me, right and wrong are such simple concepts I have trouble
> understanding wingers from either side. IMO, they have lost their moral
> compass and have to rely on talking heads to tell them what is really
> right and wrong. Look at the facts and form your own life perspective.
> You don't really need to have someone tell you what you should think.
Well said. Critics who want "more of the same only nuttier" have no
founding in reality. They continue to push the same superstitions and
fears that brought our nation to this point.
Berry Oakley
> I look forward to the dirt caving in on them.
I am still looking forward to your visit,where YOU said you would come
by my house and take my stuff.
YOU however, only really look forward to having your diaper changed.
RogerN
"News". Would this be because there are so many that know the truth that
they can't get away with a lie? But yet you believe that the early
Christians were able to make up whatever they wanted in a land full of
religious Jewish folk and it would be taken as Gospel truth. Come from the
dark side Luke while there is still time!
RogerN
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a1b451ca-593d-425d...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> TMT
>
> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
> Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
>
> For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire
> for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people
> to charge that the cable news network is intentionally misleading its
> audience, while Fox claims a "production error."
>
<snip>
Buerste
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:29:34 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com> wrote:
>
>> "Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:WKDNm.22282$gi1....@newsfe19.iad...
>>> Buerste wrote:
>>>> "Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:nscdg5l5vpj9pe4et...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> fafdaf...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TMT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video Thu Nov 19, 3:36
>>>>>>> pm ET
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> something trivial like forging official Government documents, that
>>>>>> would have been OK.
>>>>> A lie is a lie and accountability is accountability.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, it is interesting that you give Democrats a pass (sure doesn't
>>> appear to be the case in your writing, but, well, you wouldn't LIE,
>>> would you?).
>>>
>>> None of the Democrats I know give the Democrats a pass, unlike many of
>>> the Republicans I know...
>>>
>>> Did you think [sic] you had a point?
>>>
>>> Dan
>>
>> I doubt that you've ever met a conservative.
>
> expect anyone to believe or give a shit what you "doubt"?
>
>
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't WANT people like you to "believe or give a shit". Your opinions are
meaningless, other than to provide entertainment.
Buerste
>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:09:22 -0800, Hawke
>>> <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Deucalion wrote:
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TMT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
>>>>>>> Thu Nov 19, 3:36 pm ET
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> OH NO!!! NOT "MISLEADING VIDEOS"!!! To bad for FOX is wasn't
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> trivial like forging official Government documents, that would have
>>>>>> been OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> A lie is a lie and accountability is accountability.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>outlet. It's opinion and propaganda. It's the media arm of the
>>>>republican party. Everything that comes on that network has a goal to
>>>>it, tear down the Democratic party and Democrats in general and do
>>>>everything it can to get republicans elected to public office. The only
>>>>thing that bothers me about what they do is the lying. If they would
>>>>just admit what they are doing it would be okay. But they have to
>>>>pretend they are not pro republican. But what do you expect from an
>>>>outfit filled with conservatives? Lying is a way of life for them so
>>>>that is what they give us.
>>>
>>> crude propaganda. There are some people who think that WWF wrestling
>>> is the real deal too though. Even crude propaganda works on some
>>> people. Some of them even post here.
>>
>
That is a perfectly acceptable sentence. What part don't you understand?
Besides, it's true!
Buerste
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:03:21 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:19:35 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:28 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> fafdaf...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TMT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video Thu Nov 19, 3:36
>>>>>>> pm
>>>>>>> ET
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> OH NO!!! NOT "MISLEADING VIDEOS"!!! To bad for FOX is wasn't
>>>>>> something trivial like forging official Government documents, that
>>>>>> would have been OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> "forged
>>>>> official Government documents" show us where that happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Curly
>>>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 2012 Run, Sarah, Run!
>>>>> 2012
>>>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, I asked for a reputable cite for your implication that an opposing
>>> network has "forged official Government documents" Sorry if you don't
>>> understand it but I don't know how to dumb it down any further.
>>>
>>> Regards, Curly
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>im-ply-verb
>>(used with object), -plied, -plying.1.to indicate or suggest without being
>>explicitly stated
>>
>>Get back to me when I explicitly state something. Sorry if you don't
>>understand it but I don't
>>know how to dumb it down any further.
>
> You're plenty dumb, but did you have a cite or not?
Enjoy!
March 2005: After the embarrassing scandal involving Dan Rather's use of
forged documents in a one-sided 60 Minutes hit piece aimed at President Bush
just before the 2004 presidential election, CBS announced Rather would leave
the CBS Evening News on March 9, 2005, a year earlier than planned. To mark
the end of Rather's liberal reign, the Media Research Center compiled The
Dan Rather Files, an exhaustive text and video
http://www.mrc.org/projects/rather20th/welcome.asp
Too_Many_Tools
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:29:22 -0500, Poetic Justice
>
>
>
>
>
> <PoeticJustice@talk-n-dog...com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:33:14 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Very well said.
TMT
Hawke
>
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Daily Kos, HuffingtonPost, and Move-on are left wing leaning groups.
They're liberals and proud of it. They aren't hiding it. They don't
pretend to be middle of the road. Fox pretends they are an unbiased
middle of the road station. That makes all the difference in the world.
Everyone knows that everyone has some bias. The left wing sources don't
pretend they are something they are not. Fox is pretending. I'd say that
makes the liberals a lot more honest than Fox News. But that has been
obvious for a long time. Fox has been a shill for the republican party
for years. You have to be blind not to know that.
Hawke
Curly Surmudgeon
> You had to go back 5 years to a case that is still in litigation and you
> think that you proved something?
Bias? Buerste uses a biased source to bitch about bias while ignoring
accuracy entirely:
"Leaders of America's conservative movement have long believed that
within the national news media a strident liberal bias existed that
influenced the public's understanding of critical issues. On October 1,
1987, a group of young determined conservatives set out to not only prove
— through sound scientific research — that liberal bias in the media does
exist and undermines traditional American values, but also to neutralize
its impact on the American political scene. What they launched that fall
is the now acclaimed — Media Research Center (MRC)."
http://www.mrc.org/about/about.aspx
Buerste
> you think that you proved something?
Is that what "Daily Kos", "The Huffington Post" and "MoveOn.org" told you?
Good little parrot!
Hawke
> sentence didn't make sense to me.
Those goof balls never make sense. Their idea is that if you think
republicans are incompetent boobs and have made a mess of just about
everything they have touched you are a liberal. To them anyone
criticizing right wingers is automatically a flaming liberal and someone
that only goes to far left wing media sources. They think that because
that is what they do. Because they go nowhere but to Fox for all their
information they think anyone who disagrees with them goes to the left
wing sites. Even though most of us who hate the republicans have never
been to any of the far left sources. So even if you told them you don't
know those left wing sites they would never believe you.
Hawke
Buerste
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hea0sg$gqg$1...@aioe.org...
Yep, Fox leans right. However, they report stories that you won't see
elsewhere because the Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Move-on, ABC, NBC,CNN,
MSNBC and such WON'T report anything that puts Democrats in a bad light.
So, the left has created an echo chamber that only spews the left's
propaganda. I read and watch them all, the left feels the need to silence
anyone or anything that doesn't follow their program in lockstep. Is that's
what you want, one side of everything? Then get that "Fairness Doctrine" in
place, bash FOX, shut down dissenting voices, attack those that disagree.
Mmmmm, how...progressive!
Hawke
>>> Liberals would like nothing more than to disband ANY voice against
>>> their agenda. And, they would do anything to achieve those ends.
>>> The end justifies the means for them.
>>
>>
>> Daily Kos, HuffingtonPost, and Move-on are left wing leaning groups.
>> They're liberals and proud of it. They aren't hiding it. They don't
>> pretend to be middle of the road. Fox pretends they are an unbiased
>> middle of the road station. That makes all the difference in the
>> world. Everyone knows that everyone has some bias. The left wing
>> sources don't pretend they are something they are not. Fox is
>> pretending. I'd say that makes the liberals a lot more honest than Fox
>> News. But that has been obvious for a long time. Fox has been a shill
>> for the republican party for years. You have to be blind not to know
>> that.
>>
>> Hawke
>
> Yep, Fox leans right. However, they report stories that you won't see
> elsewhere because the Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Move-on, ABC, NBC,CNN,
> MSNBC and such WON'T report anything that puts Democrats in a bad light.
> So, the left has created an echo chamber that only spews the left's
> propaganda. I read and watch them all, the left feels the need to
> silence anyone or anything that doesn't follow their program in
> lockstep. Is that's what you want, one side of everything? Then get
> that "Fairness Doctrine" in place, bash FOX, shut down dissenting
> voices, attack those that disagree. Mmmmm, how...progressive!
Sorry pal, but you got it wrong. What progressives want is the truth.
Nobody cares that Fox has a viewpoint. MSNBC has a viewpoint too, a
liberal one. They are not trying to fool anyone about that. As long as a
station says right up front where they are coming from I, and most
progressives, have no problem with that. We believe in a free
marketplace of ideas. But don't bullshit us. Fox is right wing and won't
admit it.
The problem is that as a purported news station they aren't supposed to
show a bias. Because of that most of them try to keep their political
views to a minimum. I think you would agree Fox isn't just a teeny weeny
bit right of center. If a station has a definite political leaning it
should say so. If it is trying to be neutral that's different. Right now
I would say CNN is the most neutral. Fox and MSNBC represent the
conservatives and liberals. But only Fox keeps saying they don't. It's
saying one thing while doing the opposite that aggravates people. Oh,
and if you think conservatives wouldn't like to disband the "liberal"
voices you're crazy.
Hawke
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
Independents either. Opposing viewpoints are actually good if based in
reality.
> We believe in a free
> marketplace of ideas. But don't bullshit us. Fox is right wing and won't
> admit it.
>
> The problem is that as a purported news station they aren't supposed to
> show a bias. Because of that most of them try to keep their political
> views to a minimum. I think you would agree Fox isn't just a teeny weeny
> bit right of center. If a station has a definite political leaning it
> should say so. If it is trying to be neutral that's different. Right now
> I would say CNN is the most neutral. Fox and MSNBC represent the
> conservatives and liberals. But only Fox keeps saying they don't. It's
> saying one thing while doing the opposite that aggravates people. Oh,
> and if you think conservatives wouldn't like to disband the "liberal"
> voices you're crazy.
>
> Hawke
Well said.
Hawke
>>> Liberals would like nothing more than to disband ANY voice against
>>> their agenda. And, they would do anything to achieve those ends.
>>> The end justifies the means for them.
>>
>>
>> Daily Kos, HuffingtonPost, and Move-on are left wing leaning groups.
>> They're liberals and proud of it. They aren't hiding it. They don't
>> pretend to be middle of the road. Fox pretends they are an unbiased
>> middle of the road station. That makes all the difference in the
>> world. Everyone knows that everyone has some bias. The left wing
>> sources don't pretend they are something they are not. Fox is
>> pretending. I'd say that makes the liberals a lot more honest than Fox
>> News. But that has been obvious for a long time. Fox has been a shill
>> for the republican party for years. You have to be blind not to know
>> that.
>>
>> Hawke
>
> Yep, Fox leans right. However, they report stories that you won't see
> elsewhere because the Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Move-on, ABC, NBC,CNN,
> MSNBC and such WON'T report anything that puts Democrats in a bad light.
> So, the left has created an echo chamber that only spews the left's
> propaganda. I read and watch them all, the left feels the need to
> silence anyone or anything that doesn't follow their program in
> lockstep. Is that's what you want, one side of everything? Then get
> that "Fairness Doctrine" in place, bash FOX, shut down dissenting
> voices, attack those that disagree. Mmmmm, how...progressive!
Sorry pal, but you got it wrong. What progressives want is the truth.
Nobody cares that Fox has a viewpoint. MSNBC has a viewpoint too, a
liberal one. They are not trying to fool anyone about that. As long as a
station says right up front where they are coming from I, and most
progressives, have no problem with that. We believe in a free
Lib Loo
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
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Great gerbils think alike.
Buerste
I've never heard that Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Move-on, ABC, NBC,CNN or
MSNBC state that they were liberal. Yet FOX MUST declare they are right
leaning? Goose/Gander! I want MORE sources not less, even then, the truth
of any issue is elusive. Olbermann is 10 times to the left what FOX is to
the right.
Hawke
Why don't you take the one out of your ass and ask it what it thinks?
I'll bet it agrees with you.
Hawke
>> The problem is that as a purported news station they aren't supposed
>> to show a bias. Because of that most of them try to keep their
>> political views to a minimum. I think you would agree Fox isn't just a
>> teeny weeny bit right of center. If a station has a definite political
>> leaning it should say so. If it is trying to be neutral that's
>> different. Right now I would say CNN is the most neutral. Fox and
>> MSNBC represent the conservatives and liberals. But only Fox keeps
>> saying they don't. It's saying one thing while doing the opposite that
>> aggravates people. Oh, and if you think conservatives wouldn't like to
>> disband the "liberal" voices you're crazy.
>>
>> Hawke
>
> I've never heard that Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Move-on, ABC, NBC,CNN
> or MSNBC state that they were liberal. Yet FOX MUST declare they are
> right leaning? Goose/Gander! I want MORE sources not less, even then,
> the truth of any issue is elusive. Olbermann is 10 times to the left
> what FOX is to the right.
See, that's your problem. You can't tell who is what. Fox is as far to
the right as any other station is to the left, farther actually. If you
can't see that Hannity and Beck are at least as far to the right as
Olbermann is to the left then you have a problem telling how far someone
is from the center. Olbermann is a full fledged liberal, that's true.
But most people on Fox are as far to the right as he is to the left. I
understand why you cannot tell that though. Here's a wild guess, your
biased toward Fox. Tell me that isn't your favorite news source.
Hawke
Lib Loo
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hef6l3$q9f$1...@aioe.org...
If you are going to have a dialog with someone on Usenet, don't trim the
headers, so that the rest of us know to whom you were replying.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
All true but please let me highlight the critical distinction, that
Olberman's reporting is based in reality and contains facts.
That he holds the Fox reporters feet to the fire for lying infuriates
them. I love that. If the roles were reversed, I'd love that too.
Liars *should* be humiliated.
Again, to reiterate, the distinction between say Olbermann and Beck lies
not so much in their political position within the spectrum but the truth
of what they say. Beck lies, Olberman does not.
--
Regards, Curly
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Harold Burton
<a1b451ca-593d-425d...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> The Conservative Circus Clowns continue on......
>
> TMT
>
> Fox News again accused of airing misleading video...
So they've begun imitating CBS, etc.
snicker.
Hawke
So they are doing what the mainstream media does, does that mean you are
going to start hating them now too or you going to overlook it in their
case?
Hawke