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Ignoramus24410

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Sep 29, 2008, 11:34:51 AM9/29/08
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My Mitutoyo Digimatic caliper is refusing to work and says "Err 05".
Would anyone have any idea what this may mean?
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"Ignoramus24410" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24410.invalid> wrote in message
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> My Mitutoyo Digimatic caliper is refusing to work and says "Err 05".
> Would anyone have any idea what this may mean?

On the older ones, it means you overrode its ability to keep up with
movement of the slide. Either you moved the slide too fast, or it has water,
oil, or dirt on it. Reset by turning it off and on. Clean the scale first
and wipe with a VERY lightly oiled rag.

But that reading looked like this: E--e5. If yours says Err 05, it's
probably a newer one. In that case, call Mitutoyo to find out: 1--888-648-
8869.

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Ignoramus24410

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Sep 29, 2008, 1:17:39 PM9/29/08
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I think that it is E--e5. I was quoting by memory. I will try to clean
it.

Gunner Asch

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Sep 29, 2008, 2:41:26 PM9/29/08
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:34:51 -0500, Ignoramus24410
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.24410.invalid> wrote:

>My Mitutoyo Digimatic caliper is refusing to work and says "Err 05".
>Would anyone have any idea what this may mean?


Ayup..it cant read the scale any longer.

Its the equivelent of the Microsoft Blue Screen of Death.

Ive got 4 Mitys in the junk box that all have that error.

Means the circuit board is toast and it costs almost $60 for Mity to
replace it, based on 2 estimates from Mity in Los Angeles

Gunner

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and kills taxes." Pyotr Flipivich

David Billington

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Sep 29, 2008, 3:17:55 PM9/29/08
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I've got a Mitutoyo scale and I can reproduce the error quite easily by
holding the scale in my sweaty hand for a minute or so then running the
reader head across that section, after allowing to dry and a reset it
will work fine again. Not saying yours aren't dead, just it may be a
cleaning issue in some cases.

John R. Carroll

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Sep 29, 2008, 3:42:14 PM9/29/08
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I had this problem on a 24" Heigth Gage.
There is a plug in connector that can loosen up and the pulses don't read
properly.
Open it up and check the connections.


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Ignoramus24410

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Sep 29, 2008, 3:43:54 PM9/29/08
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On 2008-09-29, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:34:51 -0500, Ignoramus24410
><ignoram...@NOSPAM.24410.invalid> wrote:
>
>>My Mitutoyo Digimatic caliper is refusing to work and says "Err 05".
>>Would anyone have any idea what this may mean?
>
>
> Ayup..it cant read the scale any longer.
>
> Its the equivelent of the Microsoft Blue Screen of Death.
>
> Ive got 4 Mitys in the junk box that all have that error.
>
> Means the circuit board is toast and it costs almost $60 for Mity to
> replace it, based on 2 estimates from Mity in Los Angeles
>

Too bad.

Are the "new mitutoyo calipers" sold on ebay, counterfeit?

Rob Fraser

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Sep 29, 2008, 6:14:13 PM9/29/08
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A lot of it stems from folks not being able to read analog tools anymore.

Need proof- hand a college kid a non-digital caliper or mic and enjoy the
bewildered look on his face


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Gunner Asch

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Day is deader den da cow what mah hamburger just now came from.

Trust me..as cheap and as motivated to scrounge/fix stuff up..when I
say they are dead....day is history.

Gunner Asch

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Sep 29, 2008, 6:23:57 PM9/29/08
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:43:54 -0500, Ignoramus24410
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.24410.invalid> wrote:

>On 2008-09-29, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:34:51 -0500, Ignoramus24410
>><ignoram...@NOSPAM.24410.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>My Mitutoyo Digimatic caliper is refusing to work and says "Err 05".
>>>Would anyone have any idea what this may mean?
>>
>>
>> Ayup..it cant read the scale any longer.
>>
>> Its the equivelent of the Microsoft Blue Screen of Death.
>>
>> Ive got 4 Mitys in the junk box that all have that error.
>>
>> Means the circuit board is toast and it costs almost $60 for Mity to
>> replace it, based on 2 estimates from Mity in Los Angeles
>>
>
>Too bad.
>
>Are the "new mitutoyo calipers" sold on ebay, counterfeit?


No idea. It should be noted that even the Chicom imports are just as
accurate as the Mits in the vast majority of cases. They simply just
dont last as long oftentimes.

Yeah..Ive got drawers filled with Miti, NSK, Fowler, Federal and so
forth. And use decent cheap chicom stuff for most of the dirty nasty
jobs, like leaving them laying on the carraige of the lathe while
cutting chips, with flood coolant.

David Billington

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Sep 29, 2008, 6:43:16 PM9/29/08
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Rob Fraser wrote:
> A lot of it stems from folks not being able to read analog tools anymore.
>
> Need proof- hand a college kid a non-digital caliper or mic and enjoy the
> bewildered look on his face
>
>
>

Just like I used to love when people asked my if they could borrow my HP
calculator with RPN and they spent time looking for the = key or if they
got that far looking for the "off" button as it had an"on" button, maybe
like Windows with "Start" but no "Stop". I got my HP returned once
after losing it and went to thank the guys that turned it in, they said
"nice calculator" and would have kept it if they could figure out how
to use it.

Flash

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"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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Gunner, not to dispute your death certificates, but I have resurrected a
gang on Mitutoyo (and other electronic) calipers, that "die". and I
havefound that a number of them gave up because of damage, chips, small
specks of dirt, swarf, attached to the reader, though the scale in the beam
remained ok.

Repair involved full disassembly, cleaning the pickup thoroughly.


Flash

(Formerly Tool & Gage Supervisor in a LARGE foundry/machine-shop kinda
company)


DoN. Nichols

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Sep 30, 2008, 1:09:21 AM9/30/08
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On 2008-09-29, Ignoramus24410 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24410.invalid> wrote:
> My Mitutoyo Digimatic caliper is refusing to work and says "Err 05".
> Would anyone have any idea what this may mean?

Coin cell (battery) low?

Dirty scale (just wipe it clean along the whole length).

Need to remove the coin cell, turn it "on" to discharge it
totally, let it sit for a few minutes, then re-insert the (fresh)
coin cell. Sometimes, bouncing contacts when installing the battery can
confuse the tiny little CPU in the thing and letting it go to sleep to
forget what had happened is the easiest way to clear it.

I don't have a manual with mine, or I would try looking up the
error code. If you have the manual for yours -- you could try that.

Good Luck,
DoN.

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Gunner Asch

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Sep 30, 2008, 2:45:02 AM9/30/08
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I ought to dig them out and send em to you. Fixem all and send me back
half, you keep half.

Don Foreman

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Sep 30, 2008, 2:57:35 AM9/30/08
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:41:26 -0700, Gunner Asch
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:34:51 -0500, Ignoramus24410
><ignoram...@NOSPAM.24410.invalid> wrote:
>
>>My Mitutoyo Digimatic caliper is refusing to work and says "Err 05".
>>Would anyone have any idea what this may mean?
>
>
>Ayup..it cant read the scale any longer.
>
>Its the equivelent of the Microsoft Blue Screen of Death.
>
>Ive got 4 Mitys in the junk box that all have that error.
>
>Means the circuit board is toast and it costs almost $60 for Mity to
>replace it, based on 2 estimates from Mity in Los Angeles
>

Meanwhile, the H.F. caliper for $15.99 on sale works every bit as
well. I have both and I do not see any functional difference between
them. I've done a few comparisons, never saw any disagreements in
measurement.

The Mitutoyo may be made of better steel: forged in many layers like
fine pastry, quenched in blood and tested by cutting randomly-found
whores from asshole to appetite.

Ignoramus28941

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Sep 30, 2008, 7:12:23 AM9/30/08
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On 2008-09-30, DoN. Nichols <dnic...@d-and-d.com> wrote:
> On 2008-09-29, Ignoramus24410 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24410.invalid> wrote:
>> My Mitutoyo Digimatic caliper is refusing to work and says "Err 05".
>> Would anyone have any idea what this may mean?
>
> Coin cell (battery) low?

definitely not. I tried a new battery.

> Dirty scale (just wipe it clean along the whole length).
>
> Need to remove the coin cell, turn it "on" to discharge it
> totally, let it sit for a few minutes, then re-insert the (fresh)
> coin cell. Sometimes, bouncing contacts when installing the battery can
> confuse the tiny little CPU in the thing and letting it go to sleep to
> forget what had happened is the easiest way to clear it.

does not help

> I don't have a manual with mine, or I would try looking up the
> error code. If you have the manual for yours -- you could try that.
>

I bought this caliper 14 years ago at a pawn shop in Oklahoma. No
manual either.

Gunner Asch

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Sep 30, 2008, 2:53:11 PM9/30/08
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:12:23 -0500, Ignoramus28941
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.28941.invalid> wrote:

>On 2008-09-30, DoN. Nichols <dnic...@d-and-d.com> wrote:
>> On 2008-09-29, Ignoramus24410 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24410.invalid> wrote:
>>> My Mitutoyo Digimatic caliper is refusing to work and says "Err 05".
>>> Would anyone have any idea what this may mean?
>>
>> Coin cell (battery) low?
>
>definitely not. I tried a new battery.
>
>> Dirty scale (just wipe it clean along the whole length).
>>
>> Need to remove the coin cell, turn it "on" to discharge it
>> totally, let it sit for a few minutes, then re-insert the (fresh)
>> coin cell. Sometimes, bouncing contacts when installing the battery can
>> confuse the tiny little CPU in the thing and letting it go to sleep to
>> forget what had happened is the easiest way to clear it.
>
>does not help
>
>> I don't have a manual with mine, or I would try looking up the
>> error code. If you have the manual for yours -- you could try that.
>>
>
>I bought this caliper 14 years ago at a pawn shop in Oklahoma. No
>manual either.


Think you got your moneys worth yet?

Ignoramus28941

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Sep 30, 2008, 3:13:56 PM9/30/08
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Most definitely. It served me faithfully for these years, and cost
just $20.

Gunner Asch

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:13:56 -0500, Ignoramus28941
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.28941.invalid> wrote:

>On 2008-09-30, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:12:23 -0500, Ignoramus28941
>><ignoram...@NOSPAM.28941.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2008-09-30, DoN. Nichols <dnic...@d-and-d.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2008-09-29, Ignoramus24410 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24410.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> My Mitutoyo Digimatic caliper is refusing to work and says "Err 05".
>>>>> Would anyone have any idea what this may mean?
>>>>
>>>> Coin cell (battery) low?
>>>
>>>definitely not. I tried a new battery.
>>>
>>>> Dirty scale (just wipe it clean along the whole length).
>>>>
>>>> Need to remove the coin cell, turn it "on" to discharge it
>>>> totally, let it sit for a few minutes, then re-insert the (fresh)
>>>> coin cell. Sometimes, bouncing contacts when installing the battery can
>>>> confuse the tiny little CPU in the thing and letting it go to sleep to
>>>> forget what had happened is the easiest way to clear it.
>>>
>>>does not help
>>>
>>>> I don't have a manual with mine, or I would try looking up the
>>>> error code. If you have the manual for yours -- you could try that.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I bought this caliper 14 years ago at a pawn shop in Oklahoma. No
>>>manual either.
>>
>>
>> Think you got your moneys worth yet?
>
>Most definitely. It served me faithfully for these years, and cost
>just $20.


Then put it in a nice little shadowbox, drape it in black crepe and
put a RIP-2008 plate on it, and get another one. They are cheap and
frankly ...disposable.

Gunner

Ignoramus28941

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I will keep using it, for wood and stuff, where I do not need the
readout.

Phil Kangas

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"Ignoramus28941" <> wrote in message
wrote:

> >>>>I bought this caliper 14 years ago at a pawn shop in
Oklahoma. No
> >>>>manual either.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Think you got your moneys worth yet?
> >>
> >>Most definitely. It served me faithfully for these
years, and cost
> >>just $20.
> >
> >
> > Then put it in a nice little shadowbox, drape it in
black crepe and
> > put a RIP-2008 plate on it, and get another one. They
are cheap and
> > frankly ...disposable.
>


> I will keep using it, for wood and stuff, where I do not
need the
> readout.
>

You mean, like, measure it with a caliper, mark it off with
a crayon
and cut it off with a chain saw? sorry, couldn't
resist.......;>)


Flash

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"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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Gunner, You'd have spend more than their worth on postage to this side of
the continent, and I'd have to spend twice as much more on insurance to ship
'em back. But thanks for the offer.

I just bought an 8" knockoff at Horrible Freight last week for $19.95, and
they check as good as the Mitts.

(It is all a matter of "economics" trumping "esthetics" , . . . . . .
SIGH)

How big a shadow-box are you building for the foursome? Planning a ceremony
of sorts? I met Mitutoyo's esteemed Dr. Matsuga a few times and was also in
two of his classes in metrology, and I believe he would approve if the
service was Shinto-based.

Flash


Ignoramus28941

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Sep 30, 2008, 9:43:26 PM9/30/08
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Almost!

Ed Huntress

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"Flash" <flash...@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
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Uh, Do you mean Nubuo Suga? And Mitutoyo supports a Buddhist monestary. I
don't think they have ties to Shintoism, do they?

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Ignoramus28941

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Ed, would you, per chance, know if there is any meaningful difference
between a Mitutoyo caliper, and a Harbor Freight caliper, as far as
construction goes?

Gunner Asch

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:55:12 -0500, Ignoramus28941
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Its in 1/16's?

Gunner Asch

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:38:59 -0400, "Flash"
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Ive got em in a DutchMasters cigar box with a busted Muller and some
other stuff.

Say..can I ring the bell???

Gunner

Ed Huntress

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"Ignoramus28941" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.28941.invalid> wrote in message
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> Ed, would you, per chance, know if there is any meaningful difference
> between a Mitutoyo caliper, and a Harbor Freight caliper, as far as
> construction goes?

No, I don't, Iggy. I was involved with Mitutoyo before the Chinese stuff was
taken seriously.

Although the Mitutoyo tools are generally very good, their calipers weren't,
in my opinion, up to the quality of the rest of their tools. They weren't
rigid enough.

I don't know what they're like now. I accumulated a lot of Mitutoyo tools
when I was writing and doing photography for them. I have several lifetimes'
supply and haven't even bothered to look at anything new.

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Wild_Bill

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Ig, the only functional difference that I'm aware of is that the data output
signals on the digital China models is different from the output of the
Mitutoyo caliper models.

Nick Meuller? developed an interface, YADRO, to connect the China data
output signals to a PC/laptop for use as a DRO display.
There are other devices that have digital LED or LCD remote displays for the
China scales, so the operator can see the displayed position without looking
at the display on the scale.

FWIW, the output signals of the most common types of lathe/mill DRO linear
encoder scales (not the ones that look like digital calipers) are TTL
squarewaves.

Many rotary encoders have the same TTL squarewave output signals.

But some manufacturers of linear and rotary encoders use output signals that
are not compatible with TTL DRO display circuitry.
Some manufacturers use magnetic properties to produce the output signals of
their encoders.

WB
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Joseph Gwinn

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In article <VN-dnWkwfrqhznzV...@comcast.com>,

"Rob Fraser" <FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net> wrote:

> A lot of it stems from folks not being able to read analog tools anymore.
>
> Need proof- hand a college kid a non-digital caliper or mic and enjoy the
> bewildered look on his face

When I was a college kid, I did know how to read a vernier caliper
because I had used some birthday-resent money to buy a 6" Helios caliper
(which I still have). This ability amazed my summer-job bosses at RCA
(when it was a major defense contractor).

Now, my eyes aren't good enough unless the light is perfect, so I use
dial or digital calipers.

Joe Gwinn

Ignoramus23721

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Oct 2, 2008, 10:42:34 AM10/2/08
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I was taught how to use them, 21 years ago, an almost useless skill by
now.

jstai...@gmail.com

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On Monday, September 29, 2008 at 6:14:13 PM UTC-4, Rob Fraser wrote:
> A lot of it stems from folks not being able to read analog tools anymore.
>
> Need proof- hand a college kid a non-digital caliper or mic and enjoy the
> bewildered look on his face
>
>
>
>

...LOL...some 60 year olds too...

Rex

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I messed with the HF and other Chinese digitals for years. Seemed like I was always buying batteries for them.
Then I bought a Mitutoyo digital caliper. Batteries last forever. Now that's all I use.

Steve W.

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The main issue with the HF/clones is that the off button only shut off
the display, the chip still stays powered up.
There is a way to add a small switch to actually shut off the power, but
it isn't real easy to find the correct switch these days, or you just
remove the battery.

--
Steve W.

MC

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Yes I think so. I bought one a couple of years ago and thought initially it was the real deal but on closer inspection and comparison with a real one I'm pretty sure it's a fake, albeit a very good one.
What gives this one away is that the Mitutoyo brand printed on the front is not as fine as a real one and is applies crookedly, it goes in a slight curve, which would not pass a Mitutoyo factory QA check.
Also the battery cover looks slightly poorly made to me.
Seems to work fine though, is reliable and pretty accurate as far as I know.

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