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Cliff

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:27:13 AM1/5/10
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"... three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings about �curing�
homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States ..."

" .... a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior ...."

Patriot Games

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Normal humans aren't homosexual.

Genetic mutations are homosexuals (and pedophiles).

Since when do mutants get "human" rights?

Dave__67

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On Jan 5, 12:45 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:27:13 -0500, Cliff
>
> <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
> >  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html
> >  "... three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings about “curing”
> >homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States ..."
> >  " .... a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior ...."
>
> Normal humans aren't homosexual.  
>
> Genetic mutations are homosexuals (and pedophiles).
>
> Since when do mutants get "human" rights?

If they'll give you rights, you have to figure they'll let just about
anyone join the club.


Dave

Morton Davis

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Jan 5, 2010, 3:47:23 PM1/5/10
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"Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.Com> wrote in message
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Wrong.


Patriot Games

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Unlike you I'm an American and my "rights" weren't given to me, THEY
WERE PRE-EXISTING...

Stormin Mormon

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Jan 5, 2010, 6:37:29 PM1/5/10
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Since they strap on bombs and board arirplanes. Or cross the
southern US border in the middle of the night.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


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Since when do mutants get "human" rights?

Curly Surmudgeon

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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:27:03 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
wrote:

You are not an American. Nor a Patriot. Post your long form birth
certificate.

Wanker.

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Curly Surmudgeon

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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:37:29 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
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> Since they strap on bombs and board arirplanes. Or cross the southern US
> border in the middle of the night.
>
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org

When was the last time you saw a mutant wearing a strap-on bomb?

Cliff

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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 18:37:29 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Since they strap on bombs and board arirplanes. Or cross the
>southern US border in the middle of the night.
>
>--
>Christopher A. Young
>Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org

"Learn more about Jesus" ?????

NOT from the likes of you & yours !!!!
--
Cliff

Patriot Games

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Jan 6, 2010, 2:33:37 PM1/6/10
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:04:45 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:27:03 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:44:42 -0800 (PST), Dave_67_Blowjobs
>> <spamT...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>On Jan 5, 12:45�pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:27:13 -0500, Cliff
>>>> <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>> > �http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html "...
>>>> > �three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings about
>>>> > �?curing?

>>>> >homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States ..."
>>>> > �" .... a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior
>>>> > �...."
>>>> Normal humans aren't homosexual.
>>>> Genetic mutations are homosexuals (and pedophiles). Since when do
>>>> mutants get "human" rights?
>>>If they'll give you rights, you have to figure they'll let just about
>>>anyone join the club.
>> Unlike you I'm an American and my "rights" weren't given to me, THEY
>> WERE PRE-EXISTING...

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:44:31 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>wrote:
>> I have an email address JUST FOR YOU...
>> Wanna send me your address LIKE YOU PROMISED?
> NO, I will NOT send you my address in email AS PROMISED BECAUSE I AM A
> LIAR AND A COWARD.

That would a "NO!"

The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
COMPLETE!

Game over, Coward.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Jan 6, 2010, 5:42:20 PM1/6/10
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Turn your energy to Chris Dodd and destroy his Post Congress... Lobbyist
jobs.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Jan 7, 2010, 12:47:49 AM1/7/10
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:33:37 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:04:45 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:27:03 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:44:42 -0800 (PST), Dave_67_Blowjobs
>>> <spamT...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>On Jan 5, 12:45 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:27:13 -0500, Cliff
>>>>> <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>> >  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html
>>>>> >  "... three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings
>>>>> >  about ?curing?
>>>>> >homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States ..."
>>>>> >  " .... a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior
>>>>> >  ...."
>>>>> Normal humans aren't homosexual.
>>>>> Genetic mutations are homosexuals (and pedophiles). Since when do
>>>>> mutants get "human" rights?
>>>>If they'll give you rights, you have to figure they'll let just about
>>>>anyone join the club.
>>> Unlike you I'm an American and my "rights" weren't given to me, THEY
>>> WERE PRE-EXISTING...

Your life is a pre-existing fluke. Most defective fetuses spontaneously
abort.

So, wanker, where where you hiding when scheduled to come and carry out
your death threat?

Gunner Asch

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Jan 17, 2010, 8:49:42 AM1/17/10
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:45:34 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:27:13 -0500, Cliff

Generally...always.

Is there a problem with that?

Gunner

Patriot Games

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Jan 17, 2010, 12:44:39 PM1/17/10
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There might be.

Historically we knew who the "normal" people were, they were Us.

And we knew who the dangerous nutballs were, they were very obvious,
and we removed from society.

Today, confronting the fact that homosexuality (and pedophilia) is a
genetic mutation that affects the physical and psychological
development of a person we have 'people' that are in MANY ways not
remotely like Us. Sure, they look like us. But that is about as far
as it goes.

For the first time in the history of society we have BOTH humans and
'humanoids' living together.

Gunner Asch

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Jan 17, 2010, 6:14:57 PM1/17/10
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:44:39 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
wrote:

>>Generally...always.
>>Is there a problem with that?
>
>There might be.
>
>Historically we knew who the "normal" people were, they were Us.
>
>And we knew who the dangerous nutballs were, they were very obvious,
>and we removed from society.
>
>Today, confronting the fact that homosexuality (and pedophilia) is a
>genetic mutation that affects the physical and psychological
>development of a person we have 'people' that are in MANY ways not
>remotely like Us. Sure, they look like us. But that is about as far
>as it goes.


Odd then that pedophiles are generally "straight", with wives and
families, while queers are not.

When the Constitution is given to you to fuck around with, then they can
worry. Since such is unlikely.....shrug

Opinions are like assholes..everyone has one and they all tend to stink.

Gunner

Morton Davis

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Jan 18, 2010, 7:48:12 AM1/18/10
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"Patriot Games" <Pat...@america.com> wrote in message
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Interestingly, y'all can't even define what pedophilia is.


HH&C

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Jan 18, 2010, 11:12:04 AM1/18/10
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On Jan 7, 12:47 am, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:33:37 -0500, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com>

> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:04:45 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> > <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> >>On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:27:03 -0500, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com>

> >>wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:44:42 -0800 (PST), Dave_67_Blowjobs
> >>> <spamTHIS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>On Jan 5, 12:45 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:27:13 -0500, Cliff
> >>>>> <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
> >>>>> >  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html
> >>>>> >  "... three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings
> >>>>> >  about ?curing?
> >>>>> >homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States ..."
> >>>>> >  " .... a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior
> >>>>> >  ...."
> >>>>> Normal humans aren't homosexual.
> >>>>> Genetic mutations are homosexuals (and pedophiles). Since when do
> >>>>> mutants get "human" rights?
> >>>>If they'll give you rights, you have to figure they'll let just about
> >>>>anyone join the club.
> >>> Unlike you I'm an American and my "rights" weren't given to me, THEY
> >>> WERE PRE-EXISTING...
>
> Your life is a pre-existing fluke.  

So you disagree that rights are pre-existing?

Patriot Games

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Jan 18, 2010, 11:29:40 AM1/18/10
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:14:57 -0800, Gunner Asch
<gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:44:39 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>wrote:
>>>Generally...always.
>>>Is there a problem with that?
>>There might be.
>>Historically we knew who the "normal" people were, they were Us.
>>And we knew who the dangerous nutballs were, they were very obvious,
>>and we removed from society.
>>Today, confronting the fact that homosexuality (and pedophilia) is a
>>genetic mutation that affects the physical and psychological
>>development of a person we have 'people' that are in MANY ways not
>>remotely like Us. Sure, they look like us. But that is about as far
>>as it goes.
>Odd then that pedophiles are generally "straight", with wives and
>families, while queers are not.

I'm gonna try to help sort out your confusion... (It ain't gonna be
easy...)

Just because some pedophiles have families doesn't mean they are
age-appropriate heterosexual, it just means that they are smart enough
to successfully infiltrate normal human society.

We don't have enough data on pedophiles to know if they are
predominantly age-inappropriate heterosexual (sex with children of the
opposite sex) or age-inappropriate homosexual (sex with children of
the opposite sex).

The thing about homosexuals and families is more a reflection of and
response to society's response to homosexuals. Historically when
society persecuted homosexuals those of homosexuals went underground
to avoid the persecution and much of that included infiltrating normal
society by taking wives, having children, etc. (Naturally, this also
represents an increase in homosexuals in the population since
homosexuality is a genetic mutation.) And, historically, when society
is generally accepting of homosexuals those of homosexuals don't go
underground, don't take wives, don't have children, etc. (Naturally,
this represents a decrease in homosexuals in the population.)

One last thing. Homosexuals (and pedophiles) know who and what they
are usually by the end of puberty. And in our culture they also know
that they are NOT normal - especially pedophiles. So, beginning at a
very young age pedophiles begin to learn how to hide who and what they
are and learn to (and begin to) infiltrate normal human society.

>When the Constitution is given to you to fuck around with, then they can
>worry. Since such is unlikely.....shrug

You should plan on the California Gay Marriage thing getting to the
Supreme Court...

>Opinions are like assholes..everyone has one and they all tend to stink.

True enough.

Patriot Games

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Jan 18, 2010, 11:31:05 AM1/18/10
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:48:12 -0600, "Morton Davis" <anti...@go.com>
wrote:

Definitions of pedophilia (n): Ssexual desire for children: sexual
desire felt by an adult for children, or the crime of sex with a
child.

Questions?


Gunner Asch

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Jan 18, 2010, 3:51:14 PM1/18/10
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:29:40 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
wrote:

>>Odd then that pedophiles are generally "straight", with wives and


>>families, while queers are not.
>
>I'm gonna try to help sort out your confusion... (It ain't gonna be
>easy...)
>
>Just because some pedophiles have families doesn't mean they are
>age-appropriate heterosexual, it just means that they are smart enough
>to successfully infiltrate normal human society.
>
>We don't have enough data on pedophiles to know if they are
>predominantly age-inappropriate heterosexual (sex with children of the
>opposite sex) or age-inappropriate homosexual (sex with children of
>the opposite sex).


Yet you blither on and on, voicing your opinion like it was Truth.

Frankly..I dont care if a paedophile is gay or straight. Given that
they have a 100% recidivism rate, they should be either executed or
incarcerated for life plus 1 day.

Id be happy to pull the trigger, hit the switch or light up the flame
thrower in any case.

So if you wish to keep on blithering out your Opinion, fine...but to try
to portray it as Fact as YOU See it...and Ill hold your feet to the fire
each and every time.

Gunner

Gunner Asch

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Jan 18, 2010, 4:19:32 PM1/18/10
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When Shirely is confronted with facts he cannot refute..he goes into
Clown Mode.

Kill file the bastard and be done with it.

Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

znuybv

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Jan 18, 2010, 4:27:22 PM1/18/10
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On Jan 5, 3:27 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:44:42 -0800 (PST), Dave_67_Blowjobs
>

Bingo!
The Constitution just recognizes my rights and limits the governments
power to interfere with them.
That belief is what makes Liberals different than Conservatives.
When I was a Liberal I believed that the my rights came from the
government.

Patriot Games

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Jan 18, 2010, 6:37:07 PM1/18/10
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:51:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
<gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:29:40 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>wrote:
>>>Odd then that pedophiles are generally "straight", with wives and
>>>families, while queers are not.
>>I'm gonna try to help sort out your confusion... (It ain't gonna be
>>easy...)
>>Just because some pedophiles have families doesn't mean they are
>>age-appropriate heterosexual, it just means that they are smart enough
>>to successfully infiltrate normal human society.
>>We don't have enough data on pedophiles to know if they are
>>predominantly age-inappropriate heterosexual (sex with children of the
>>opposite sex) or age-inappropriate homosexual (sex with children of
>>the opposite sex).
>Yet you blither on and on, voicing your opinion like it was Truth.

Because it is.

>Frankly..I dont care if a paedophile is gay or straight. Given that
>they have a 100% recidivism rate, they should be either executed or
>incarcerated for life plus 1 day.

Ok, no argument there. The real problem is that we don't get the
chance to do that until AT LEAST ONE CHILD IS RUINED. I'm guessing
that you can see that is kind of a problem...

So, that's why people as diverse as psychologists and criminologists
(and even geneticists) have been trying to figure this whole thing out
because it would be very helpful if we could test for and detect
pedophiles BEFORE the ruin that first child (or more).

Now, (be patient) we KNOW that some peds are homosexual and some are
heterosexual, we just don't know how the numbers breakdown BECAUSE the
data on peds who like BOTH male and female children is kinda-sorta
suggesting that they are NOT really peds (a sexual orientation) but
instead are serial murders. See? This presents serious problems
because lots of people will freak the fuck out if there is a direct
link in homosexual pedophiles and serial murders and the press will
screw it up and then fags will end up blamed for something they don't
actually deserve.

>Id be happy to pull the trigger, hit the switch or light up the flame
>thrower in any case.

You can wait in line. Make sure you wave because I'll be in the same
line.

>So if you wish to keep on blithering out your Opinion, fine...but to try
>to portray it as Fact as YOU See it...and Ill hold your feet to the fire
>each and every time.

The FACT is we have that complication (above) that is greatly
hindering anybody with a reputation to protect (like a Ph.D.) from
saying anything.

The FACT is we have faggots with Ph.Ds who would really, really NOT
like this data out there in public and they definitely do NOT want
anybody coming up with a simple in vivo test for the genetic mutation
because pregnant moms would most likely want an abortion. (And,
worse, how about we told them, "Well, Mrs. Smith, there's a 60% chance
your child will be a homo, a 40% chance your child will be a pedophile
and a 20% chance your child will be serial murderer.")

Then..... We have the anti-abortion folks... (I'm anti-abortion but
not for religious reasons.) Are they gonna support abortion because
the child might be a serial murderer? Big problem...

The OTHER FACT is that while we know for certain that homosexuality
(and pedophilia) are the result of a genetic mutation WE ALSO KNOW
that it isn't exactly that simple. Give 'em another 10 years and
they'll get it sorted out.

Patriot Games

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:27:22 -0800 (PST), znuybv <tjwi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Jan 5, 3:27�pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:44:42 -0800 (PST), Dave_67_Blowjobs
>> <spamTHIS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Jan 5, 12:45�pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:27:13 -0500, Cliff
>> >> <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>> >> > �http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html
>> >> > �"... three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings about �curing�
>> >> >homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States ..."
>> >> > �" .... a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior ...."
>> >> Normal humans aren't homosexual. �
>> >> Genetic mutations are homosexuals (and pedophiles).
>> >> Since when do mutants get "human" rights?
>> >If they'll give you rights, you have to figure they'll let just about
>> >anyone join the club.
>> Unlike you I'm an American and my "rights" weren't given to me, THEY
>> WERE PRE-EXISTING...
>Bingo!
>The Constitution just recognizes my rights and limits the governments
>power to interfere with them.

Yes, that's exactly what it does. Totalitarian governments, from the
mildest form of Socialism to the worst form of Communism and
dictatorships, simply CANNOT recognize pre-existing rights because
they CANNOT control you if they don't "own" your rights and then
ration them out.

>That belief is what makes Liberals different than Conservatives.
>When I was a Liberal I believed that the my rights came from the
>government.

When you were a liberal you were their slave.

Today's DemocRATs aren't anything more than yesterday's Communists and
Socialists and dictators. If John F. Kennedy was alive today he'd
have voted for McCain, asked to see Buckwheat's birth certificate, and
walked over to the Capitol and knocked Hairless Reid out cold.

Gunner Asch

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Jan 18, 2010, 9:06:06 PM1/18/10
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:37:07 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:51:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
><gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:29:40 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>>wrote:
>>>>Odd then that pedophiles are generally "straight", with wives and
>>>>families, while queers are not.
>>>I'm gonna try to help sort out your confusion... (It ain't gonna be
>>>easy...)
>>>Just because some pedophiles have families doesn't mean they are
>>>age-appropriate heterosexual, it just means that they are smart enough
>>>to successfully infiltrate normal human society.
>>>We don't have enough data on pedophiles to know if they are
>>>predominantly age-inappropriate heterosexual (sex with children of the
>>>opposite sex) or age-inappropriate homosexual (sex with children of
>>>the opposite sex).
>>Yet you blither on and on, voicing your opinion like it was Truth.
>
>Because it is.

Again, you treat your opinion like its actually worth something.


>
>>Frankly..I dont care if a paedophile is gay or straight. Given that
>>they have a 100% recidivism rate, they should be either executed or
>>incarcerated for life plus 1 day.
>
>Ok, no argument there. The real problem is that we don't get the
>chance to do that until AT LEAST ONE CHILD IS RUINED. I'm guessing
>that you can see that is kind of a problem...

So we should execute those people who MIGHT do something? Is that your
world view Herr Comrade? Hummmm????


>
>So, that's why people as diverse as psychologists and criminologists
>(and even geneticists) have been trying to figure this whole thing out
>because it would be very helpful if we could test for and detect
>pedophiles BEFORE the ruin that first child (or more).

True indeed. But it appears that you have beaten them all in finding the
Truth, eh?


>
>Now, (be patient) we KNOW that some peds are homosexual and some are
>heterosexual, we just don't know how the numbers breakdown BECAUSE the
>data on peds who like BOTH male and female children is kinda-sorta
>suggesting that they are NOT really peds (a sexual orientation) but
>instead are serial murders. See? This presents serious problems
>because lots of people will freak the fuck out if there is a direct
>link in homosexual pedophiles and serial murders and the press will
>screw it up and then fags will end up blamed for something they don't
>actually deserve.

And most peds dont kill the kids. If they had..the Catholic Church
would have 24hr funeral services.


>
>>Id be happy to pull the trigger, hit the switch or light up the flame
>>thrower in any case.
>
>You can wait in line. Make sure you wave because I'll be in the same
>line.
>
>>So if you wish to keep on blithering out your Opinion, fine...but to try
>>to portray it as Fact as YOU See it...and Ill hold your feet to the fire
>>each and every time.
>
>The FACT is we have that complication (above) that is greatly
>hindering anybody with a reputation to protect (like a Ph.D.) from
>saying anything.
>
>The FACT is we have faggots with Ph.Ds who would really, really NOT
>like this data out there in public and they definitely do NOT want
>anybody coming up with a simple in vivo test for the genetic mutation
>because pregnant moms would most likely want an abortion. (And,
>worse, how about we told them, "Well, Mrs. Smith, there's a 60% chance
>your child will be a homo, a 40% chance your child will be a pedophile
>and a 20% chance your child will be serial murderer.")
>

So we kill the kid because there is a 40% chance he may be a kiddy
fucker? Fascinating.

>Then..... We have the anti-abortion folks... (I'm anti-abortion but
>not for religious reasons.) Are they gonna support abortion because
>the child might be a serial murderer? Big problem...
>
>The OTHER FACT is that while we know for certain that homosexuality
>(and pedophilia) are the result of a genetic mutation WE ALSO KNOW
>that it isn't exactly that simple. Give 'em another 10 years and
>they'll get it sorted out.


Yet you want to kill em all..even the 40%ers?

Gunner

Patriot Games

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Jan 19, 2010, 10:14:58 AM1/19/10
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:06:06 -0800, Gunner Asch

Prior to that we should be keeping a VERY close eye on them.

>>So, that's why people as diverse as psychologists and criminologists
>>(and even geneticists) have been trying to figure this whole thing out
>>because it would be very helpful if we could test for and detect
>>pedophiles BEFORE the ruin that first child (or more).
>True indeed. But it appears that you have beaten them all in finding the
>Truth, eh?

Of course not, I'm passing along to you what they have come up with so
far...

>>Now, (be patient) we KNOW that some peds are homosexual and some are
>>heterosexual, we just don't know how the numbers breakdown BECAUSE the
>>data on peds who like BOTH male and female children is kinda-sorta
>>suggesting that they are NOT really peds (a sexual orientation) but
>>instead are serial murders. See? This presents serious problems
>>because lots of people will freak the fuck out if there is a direct
>>link in homosexual pedophiles and serial murders and the press will
>>screw it up and then fags will end up blamed for something they don't
>>actually deserve.
>And most peds dont kill the kids.

Correct.

>>>Id be happy to pull the trigger, hit the switch or light up the flame
>>>thrower in any case.
>>You can wait in line. Make sure you wave because I'll be in the same
>>line.
>>>So if you wish to keep on blithering out your Opinion, fine...but to try
>>>to portray it as Fact as YOU See it...and Ill hold your feet to the fire
>>>each and every time.
>>The FACT is we have that complication (above) that is greatly
>>hindering anybody with a reputation to protect (like a Ph.D.) from
>>saying anything.
>>The FACT is we have faggots with Ph.Ds who would really, really NOT
>>like this data out there in public and they definitely do NOT want
>>anybody coming up with a simple in vivo test for the genetic mutation
>>because pregnant moms would most likely want an abortion. (And,
>>worse, how about we told them, "Well, Mrs. Smith, there's a 60% chance
>>your child will be a homo, a 40% chance your child will be a pedophile
>>and a 20% chance your child will be serial murderer.")
>So we kill the kid because there is a 40% chance he may be a kiddy
>fucker? Fascinating.

"We" don't. "We" provide the information to the pregnant mother and
SHE decides if she wants an abortion or not.

>>Then..... We have the anti-abortion folks... (I'm anti-abortion but
>>not for religious reasons.) Are they gonna support abortion because
>>the child might be a serial murderer? Big problem...
>>The OTHER FACT is that while we know for certain that homosexuality
>>(and pedophilia) are the result of a genetic mutation WE ALSO KNOW
>>that it isn't exactly that simple. Give 'em another 10 years and
>>they'll get it sorted out.
>Yet you want to kill em all..even the 40%ers?

That's not what I said...

Gunner Asch

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>>>>>opposite sex) or age-inappropriate homosexual (sex with children of


>>>>>the opposite sex).
>>>>Yet you blither on and on, voicing your opinion like it was Truth.
>>>Because it is.
>>Again, you treat your opinion like its actually worth something.
>>>>Frankly..I dont care if a paedophile is gay or straight. Given that
>>>>they have a 100% recidivism rate, they should be either executed or
>>>>incarcerated for life plus 1 day.
>>>Ok, no argument there. The real problem is that we don't get the
>>>chance to do that until AT LEAST ONE CHILD IS RUINED. I'm guessing
>>>that you can see that is kind of a problem...
>>So we should execute those people who MIGHT do something?
>
>Prior to that we should be keeping a VERY close eye on them.

so you wish to violate their right to privacy simply on "suspiscion"

<rest snipped>


Patriot Games

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Pssssst... Don't tell anybody this secret but we're already doing
it...

Pssst... Don't tell anybody but we're already keeping a close eye on
middle schoolers for signs of behavior matching profile
characteristics of serial murderers...

Gunner Asch

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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:54:41 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
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And this is something you approve of, Comrade?

Gunner

HH&C

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He would still stalk me.

Cliff

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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:44:39 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com> wrote:

>Historically we knew who the "normal" people were, they were Us.

[
Quotes: Family Guy: Peter
[Riding a circus elephant]
Peter: Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a
fat white guy who is threatened by change.
]

Cliff

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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:44:39 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com> wrote:

>And we knew who the dangerous nutballs were, they were very obvious,
>and we removed from society.

To places such as Colleges & Universities ...
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Cliff

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:29:40 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com> wrote:

>Just because some pedophiles have families doesn't mean they are
>age-appropriate heterosexual, it just means that they are smart enough
>to successfully infiltrate normal human society.

So they are priests.
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Cliff

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:29:40 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com> wrote:

>pedophiles

So Palin houses them?
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Patriot Games

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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:25:26 -0800, Gunner Asch

Absolutely!

Patriot Games

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I didn't know you were a priest....

Patriot Games

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You shouldn't speak of places where you've never been...

Gunner Asch

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:14:25 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
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Totalitarians of all breeds will be killed in the upcoming Great Cull.

Shrug

Gunner

Gunner Asch

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:14:25 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
wrote:


Oh..I forgot to mention...notice the title of this thread?

Seems like you are one of Those.

Pity.


Gunner

The current Democratic party has lost its ideological basis for
existence.
- It is NOT fiscally responsible.
- It is NOT ethically honorable.
- It has started wars based on lies.
- It does not support the well-being of americans - only billionaires.
- It has suppresed constitutional guaranteed liberties.
- It has foisted a liar as president upon America.
- It has violated US national sovereignty in trade treaties.
- It has refused to enforce the national borders.

...It no longer has valid reasons to exist.
Lorad474

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Actually I was there, and the really crazy people that were so crazy
they couldn't function in the nut house were shipped to the wastelands
of higher education and academia.
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Cliff

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Did you get to be any good with that broom?

Any more flights of idiocy?
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Patriot Games

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:00:19 -0800, Gunner Asch

Since when is it "totalitarian" for teachers to keep on eye on the
behavior of their students?

Since when is it "totalitarian" for parents to keep on eye on the
behavior of their children?

>Shrug

So, according to you, a 12-year child torturing and killing the
neighbor's dog is acceptable?

Noted.

Gunner Asch

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:36:43 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
wrote:

Thats not what you claimed.


>
>Since when is it "totalitarian" for parents to keep on eye on the
>behavior of their children?

Thats even further from what you claimed.


>
>>Shrug
>
>So, according to you, a 12-year child torturing and killing the
>neighbor's dog is acceptable?

Again you attempt to subvert what was said.

You:


"Pssst... Don't tell anybody but we're already keeping a close eye on
middle schoolers for signs of behavior matching profile
characteristics of serial murderers...

Me:


And this is something you approve of, Comrade?

Your response:
Absolutely!

Noted indeed.
>
>Noted.


Dont try to play games with me Comrade...I fry much bigger fish everyday
on usenet. You dont hold a candle to the average Leftard buffoon. They
have spent their entire lives holding many many fucked up beliefs. It
would appear you are simply an babe in the woods.

You have been warned.

Patriot Games

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:51:21 -0800, Gunner Asch

Yes, it is. I said "Don't tell anybody but we're already keeping a


close eye on middle schoolers for signs of behavior matching profile
characteristics of serial murderers."

You just read into that MUCH MORE than was actually there.

>>Since when is it "totalitarian" for parents to keep on eye on the
>>behavior of their children?
>Thats even further from what you claimed.

Nope. You got carried away and read too much into it.

>>>Shrug
>>So, according to you, a 12-year child torturing and killing the
>>neighbor's dog is acceptable?
>Again you attempt to subvert what was said.
>You:
>"Pssst... Don't tell anybody but we're already keeping a close eye on
>middle schoolers for signs of behavior matching profile
>characteristics of serial murderers...
>Me:
>And this is something you approve of, Comrade?
>Your response:
>Absolutely!
>Noted indeed.
>>Noted.
>Dont try to play games with me Comrade...I fry much bigger fish everyday
>on usenet. You dont hold a candle to the average Leftard buffoon.

I don't want hot wax dripping on my boots...

But if you'll spray the gasoline on 'em I'll hold the match for 'em.

Many teachers around the country have been given presentations and
information on certain specific behavior characteristics that we KNOW
are generally specific to those who became serial murderers.

We obviously can't arrest a 15-year old for something he/she may not
do (at all or) for another 10 years but we can talk to them, keep an
eye on them, look for other indicators BEFORE victims are found lying
in ditches...

>They
>have spent their entire lives holding many many fucked up beliefs. It
>would appear you are simply an babe in the woods.

I don't spend much time in the woods these days. Mostly just the
beach, and on or under the water...

>You have been warned.

Calm down...

Day Brown

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Gunner Asch wrote:
> Oh..I forgot to mention...notice the title of this thread?
> The current Democratic party has lost its ideological basis for
> existence.
> - It is NOT fiscally responsible.
> - It is NOT ethically honorable.
> - It has started wars based on lies.
> - It does not support the well-being of americans - only billionaires.
> - It has suppresed constitutional guaranteed liberties.
> - It has foisted a liar as president upon America.
> - It has violated US national sovereignty in trade treaties.
> - It has refused to enforce the national borders.
>
> ...It no longer has valid reasons to exist.
Neither is the GOP; they are both clubs for rich lawyers.
As for the thread. March 1969 was the first time they searched my house
for drugs. Oct 31, 2009 was the 9th. I've yet to hear a jury or even a
judge, say I was guilty of anything. The only diff now, with the net,
and the proliferation of personal experience reports like this, is that
you loose the illusion you ever had rights in the first place.

Carter was the last honest president, and sheeple dont even know what he
did for the USA. Part of the problem is that these wars, wars on drugs,
and wars on terrorism, provide sensational news, and that increases
ratings, which increases ad revenue. The media do not want solutions,
they want controversy. The zealots seen in the shouting matches really
do not want to win either, but to have the attention from the fights.

The March of Dimes was a very powerful American institution. Then, the
polio vaccine came out, and they had to dramatically downsize. We need a
new political party that has only one plank: "we will work the rest out
in the postings, where glibness on TV dont work, where every line of
every proposal can be parsed out in ascii like this is to see if it is
logically consistent. Where we have time to think rather than quickly
relying on the rote rhetoric of partisan zealots."

Gunner Asch

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:49:05 -0600, Day Brown <dayh...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Gunner Asch wrote:
>> Oh..I forgot to mention...notice the title of this thread?
>> The current Democratic party has lost its ideological basis for
>> existence.
>> - It is NOT fiscally responsible.
>> - It is NOT ethically honorable.
>> - It has started wars based on lies.
>> - It does not support the well-being of americans - only billionaires.
>> - It has suppresed constitutional guaranteed liberties.
>> - It has foisted a liar as president upon America.
>> - It has violated US national sovereignty in trade treaties.
>> - It has refused to enforce the national borders.
>>
>> ...It no longer has valid reasons to exist.
>Neither is the GOP; they are both clubs for rich lawyers.
>As for the thread. March 1969 was the first time they searched my house
>for drugs. Oct 31, 2009 was the 9th. I've yet to hear a jury or even a
>judge, say I was guilty of anything. The only diff now, with the net,
>and the proliferation of personal experience reports like this, is that
>you loose the illusion you ever had rights in the first place.

Yet you have admitted growing pot.

Cliff

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:07 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com> wrote:

>Yes, it is. I said "Don't tell anybody but we're already keeping a
>close eye on middle schoolers for signs of behavior matching profile
>characteristics of serial murderers."
>
>You just read into that MUCH MORE than was actually there.

Wimping out already.
Your master speaks, eh?

<Arf> <Arf>

LOL
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Cliff

Cliff

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:07 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com> wrote:

>Many teachers around the country have been given presentations and
>information on certain specific behavior characteristics that we KNOW
>are generally specific to those who became serial murderers.

They want to join the armed forces, eh?
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Cliff

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:07 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com> wrote:

>>You have been warned.
>
>Calm down...

Can he afford free Prozak on welfare?
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Day Brown

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Gunner Asch wrote:
>> Neither is the GOP; they are both clubs for rich lawyers.
>> As for the thread. March 1969 was the first time they searched my house
>> for drugs. Oct 31, 2009 was the 9th. I've yet to hear a jury or even a
>> judge, say I was guilty of anything. The only diff now, with the net,
>> and the proliferation of personal experience reports like this, is that
>> you loose the illusion you ever had rights in the first place.
>
> Yet you have admitted growing pot.
What's missing is the assumption pot growers do it to get rich at the
expense of everyone else. Since I was growing medical marijuana, I was
not selling the highly profitable recreational, and since those I
supplied had severe medical problems, they also had severe money
problems, and I often did not get paid for what I provided. Which any
responsible health care provider would do.

The only question now, is whether we can educate the juries about this
diff with medical marijuana.

Gunner Asch

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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:25:42 -0600, Day Brown <dayh...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Gunner Asch wrote:


>>> Neither is the GOP; they are both clubs for rich lawyers.
>>> As for the thread. March 1969 was the first time they searched my house
>>> for drugs. Oct 31, 2009 was the 9th. I've yet to hear a jury or even a
>>> judge, say I was guilty of anything. The only diff now, with the net,
>>> and the proliferation of personal experience reports like this, is that
>>> you loose the illusion you ever had rights in the first place.
>>
>> Yet you have admitted growing pot.
>What's missing is the assumption pot growers do it to get rich


The difference is...is that its against the law. Dont like the law? You
have two choices....
1/ Move to where its legal
2. Change the law.

Your choice.


Gunner

Gray Ghost

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Jan 24, 2010, 5:15:32 PM1/24/10
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Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in
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I have to agree with you Gunner. If your actions are illegal as defined by
the state then you are taking a risk by engaging in them. Right or wrong
doesn't come into at this point. The law will do as it's supposed to do.

Obey, move, change it or rebel. Really not much else to it. No whining when
caught, though, you knew the risks.

--
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"Hide the Decline"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk

31,486 American scientists, including 9,029 with PhDs, don't agree the
science is settled.
http://www.petitionproject.org/

What it appears to be all about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEZszGJHbK4&feature=video_response

Day Brown

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Gray Ghost wrote:
> Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in
> news:k2gpl5l21v5ehi315...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:25:42 -0600, Day Brown <dayh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>> Neither is the GOP; they are both clubs for rich lawyers.
>>>>> As for the thread. March 1969 was the first time they searched my house
>>>>> for drugs. Oct 31, 2009 was the 9th. I've yet to hear a jury or even a
>>>>> judge, say I was guilty of anything. The only diff now, with the net,
>>>>> and the proliferation of personal experience reports like this, is that
>>>>> you loose the illusion you ever had rights in the first place.
>>>> Yet you have admitted growing pot.
>>> What's missing is the assumption pot growers do it to get rich
>>
>> The difference is...is that its against the law. Dont like the law? You
>> have two choices....
>> 1/ Move to where its legal
>> 2. Change the law.

> I have to agree with you Gunner. If your actions are illegal as defined by

> the state then you are taking a risk by engaging in them. Right or wrong
> doesn't come into at this point. The law will do as it's supposed to do.
>
> Obey, move, change it or rebel. Really not much else to it. No whining when
> caught, though, you knew the risks.
>

Oh, I tried changing the law; have written to my elected
representatives, even spoke with the secretary at the state capitol, who
was quite sympathetic, but outlined how the whole process was bogged
down in technicalities to ensure nothing would change.

And if you read http://www.daybrown.org you have some idea of collusion
by the media, which PROFITS from the sensationalism of the drug war. So,
even tho marijuana is wonderfully effective at making life better for
Alzheimer's and their families, you know nothing about that because not
a word will appear in the media.

Which profits from the ads selling pharmaceuticals, and will not allow
any info on herbs which would reduce pill sales.

And if we are going to talk about 'legality', how many searches of your
home do you spoze are needed to suggest the system is being abused by
those wanting to profit from it rather than deter crime? I've had 9 so
far in the last 40 years, and still no judge or jury has said I was
guilty of anything.

And seen the underground newspaper offices that were willing to report
what happened to me... trashed out by LEO in drug searches. You dont see
repression of the freedom of the press in this? or the effort to prevent
the voters from being informed, and thereby making their elected reps do
something effective?

"I might like to move to Russia, where they take their tyranny straight
up, undiluted with the waters of hypocrisy." A. Lincoln.

Something effective is forming online. I'll meet with a group who knows
how to use the net, and have already spoken with local ISP system
administration about, if necessary, having access to their userbase to
inform those voters if, as expected, the local newspaper will not.

I have warned both the Judge and the Prosecutor's office the power of
the net is now in play, and intimidation of the local media no longer
will keep a lid on medical marijuana.

Dig it guys: I have the support of both the president and membership of
the local LEAGUE OF WOMEN'S VOTERS, whose mandate is to inform voters.
And they now understand how the local press has been intimidated by the
LEO and courts. If this does go to trial, and there is any attempt to
keep the issue of medical marijuana out of proceedings, everyone, and
that includes the jury, will understand what is going on.

As I've been saying for years, they are running the drugwar like a
speedtrap.

Gunner Asch

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On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:10:45 -0600, Day Brown <dayh...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Indeed they are..and have been. And most should be legalized.

Im not a drug user, or even a drinker..but my libertarian side says the
government should steer clear from pot..and frankly..many other
"recreational drugs"

The money we spend on the War On(some) Drugs would be better spent on
treatment of those who became addicted. And it would be a hell of a lot
cheaper.

But..shrug..until they do that..and you mess with illegal drugs..if you
wind up in a prison cell someplace..dont say you were not warned.

Gunner

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