OT: metalworking project
Don Foreman
still thought a few might find this of passing interest.
I made a tool for removing and/or driving screw eyes. Simple and
probably obvious once seen, I gotta tellya I've been doing this job
every two or three years for over a decade but I never thought of
making this silly little tool until today.
http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/screweye_tool/
I made the tool in under an hour, went out and used it, then gave it a
quick black oxide treatment before supper because with any luck I'll
be wanting this tool again in 3 years or so.
cavelamb
Neat.
Mine is just a bent piece of welding rod.
It works ok for driving them, but sucks at starting.
Still, it's better than twisting them by hand.
Richard
ps: I'd offer to trade you one if you want? :^)
Don Foreman
wrote:
My tool isn't foolproof about starting, but I got the hang of it after
two or three tries. Your bent welding rod approach has the advantage
of accomodating a range of screweye sizes while mine really only works
well with the size screweye it was made to accomodate.
Bob La Londe
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How about one of those universal sockets with all the pins that push back?
spaco
Maybe I'll get a round toit now.
Don, Roy J. tells me that you live in the twin cities. Do you
belong to any metalworking clubs there? (I'm 8 miles SE of Baldwin, Wi.)
Any interest in a blacksmithing club?
Pete Stanaitis
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Don Foreman
wrote:
That might work well if it has the necessary depth. But I couldn't
have bought one in the time it took me to make what I made, get back
to the job at hand and get 'er done well before suppertime.
Don Foreman
wrote:
>A nice idea. I should be tarping up a number of things right now.
>Maybe I'll get a round toit now.
> Don, Roy J. tells me that you live in the twin cities. Do you
>belong to any metalworking clubs there? (I'm 8 miles SE of Baldwin, Wi.)
I'm in Fridley, don't belong to any metalworking clubs. I'm really
not a club kinda guy. I belong to a couple of shooting clubs but only
to have access to ranges. I'm willing to serve and contribute, but I
purely hate meetings and the posturing bullshit that nearly always
attends group dynamics. I am able to play well with others but I'm
perhaps unreasonably selective about who I care to play with. We're
kinda hermits, in a way.
>
>Any interest in a blacksmithing club
>
>Pete Stanaitis
>-------------------
None at all but I surely do appreciate your inquiry. Thank you!
I've thought about coming to visit you now and again. Might be fun.
Maybe we could do that this autumn or winter? You're an easy drive
from here. I've no skill nor interest in blacksmithing but we both
enjoy learning about any craft and seeing it practiced.
Don Foreman
wrote:
>A nice idea. I should be tarping up a number of things right now.
>Maybe I'll get a round toit now.
If you'd like to use mine I'd be happy to mail it to you. I've no
doubt that you'd return it when done with it and I won't need it for a
while.
Bob La Londe
I can relate to that. The first useful job I did with my cnc mini mill was
to make some plastic washers for a job. Don't even recall what they were
for. LOL.
Wes
>
>I made a tool for removing and/or driving screw eyes. Simple and
>probably obvious once seen, I gotta tellya I've been doing this job
>every two or three years for over a decade but I never thought of
>making this silly little tool until today.
>
>http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/screweye_tool/
I could have used it last night hanging fluorescent fixtures. My bionic thumbs are not
what they used to be ;)
I could see making one if I had a bunch more to put up. I used a drywall screw to start a
hole with my cordless screw driver then I did the screwdriver sideways thru the eye method
to tighten.
Thanks for that very OT post!
Wes
Larry Jaques
<dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> scrawled the following:
Cool tool, but I woulda used a hex (or triangular) drive
configuration.
P.S: What are you feeding to the loons to experience this phenomenon?
--
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Denis G.
I found a version of what you made as an adapter to a Yankee
screwdriver: http://tinyurl.com/yl8m8nt
Doug White
<snip>
> I'm in Fridley, don't belong to any metalworking clubs. I'm really
> not a club kinda guy. I belong to a couple of shooting clubs but only
> to have access to ranges. I'm willing to serve and contribute, but I
> purely hate meetings and the posturing bullshit that nearly always
> attends group dynamics. I am able to play well with others but I'm
> perhaps unreasonably selective about who I care to play with. We're
> kinda hermits, in a way.
I belong to the New England Model Engineering Society club in the Boston
area. I've been amazed at how well it runs. I haven't had tme to make a
meeting in a while, but the dynamics of a club of hermits is unlike
anything I've seen before. I don't recall EVER seeing any "posturing
bullshit". The meetings usually involve a guest speaker, and those have
been a bit mixed, but many are really fascinating. The talk by the
professional safecracker was my favorite.
Doug White
SteveB
"Don Foreman" <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
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I just bend open an eye, cut off the pointy end if it's a wood thread, and
chuck that up to a drill.
Steve
SteveB
"Don Foreman" <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
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That IS slick, though. You gonna market it, or at least make some for the
guys in the group?
Steve ;-)
Jim Wilkins
> ...
>
> I just bend open an eye, cut off the pointy end if it's a wood thread, and
> chuck that up to a drill.
>
> Steve
The narrow tapered blade on the Swiss Soldier (and my $5 Chinese copy)
is a drill bit that makes good starting holes for screws, even in hard
oak or pressure treated SYP.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4133QV8P2CL.jpg
Once the eye is started, the can opener recess in the flat
screwdriver blade holds the knife in place while you tighten the eye.
The other hand is free to hold the ladder or the tarp.
jsw
GeoLane at PTD dot NET
<dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
>I made a tool for removing and/or driving screw eyes.
>
>http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/screweye_tool/
>
It looks a lot like a tool I made to turn violin pegs in their holes
when fitting them to an instrument for the first time. I would have
been more successful with it if I'd had a cordless screwdriver to
drive it rather than a variable speed drill.
RWL
GeoLane at PTD dot NET
wrote:
> The meetings usually involve a guest speaker, and those have
>been a bit mixed, but many are really fascinating. The talk by the
>professional safecracker was my favorite.
>
>Doug White
Geez. What an interesting topic. Can you summarize some of what you
remember? I don't even own a safe, but I've always wondered how it
was done.
RWL
spaco
the calendar.
Thank you for offering to loan me the tool. But I will make my own.
Alway need an excuse to start the lathe and mill.
BTW, I just bit the bullet and bought my first VFD. Haven't taken it
out of the box yet because there are just too many "get ready for
winter" things to do.
Pete Stanaitis
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Larry Jaques
NET <GeoLane at PTD dot NET> scrawled the following:
>On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:48:52 -0500, Don Foreman
><dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I made a tool for removing and/or driving screw eyes.
>>
>>http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/screweye_tool/
Here's the hex drive style I prefer, Don. http://tinyurl.com/ykv47d4
<http://www.muskyshop.com/modules/cart/products.php/nav_id/5/page/1/id/1540/name/ScrewEyeDriver>
>It looks a lot like a tool I made to turn violin pegs in their holes
>when fitting them to an instrument for the first time. I would have
>been more successful with it if I'd had a cordless screwdriver to
>drive it rather than a variable speed drill.
I'll bet that would work for installing new guitar strings, too,
especially for 12-strings.
Screw-eye driver
The next time you've got to install cup hooks or screw eyes, get out
your old brace and bit and make the job easy. A brace with a two-jawed
chuck will get a good bite on the screw eyes, and a starter hole in
harder woods will help get things going....
From Fine Homebuilding 30, pp. 10 January 1, 1986
Don Foreman
wrote:
>Glad to have you visit. Just email me off list ahead of time to check
>the calendar.
Of course, and thanks.
>
>Thank you for offering to loan me the tool. But I will make my own.
>Alway need an excuse to start the lathe and mill.
>
>BTW, I just bit the bullet and bought my first VFD. Haven't taken it
>out of the box yet because there are just too many "get ready for
>winter" things to do.
Roger that! Avg high for this day is 60 but as we hurtle toward
global warming doom we had snow on the ground until noon today and the
10-day forecast shows highs mostly in the 40's with a coupla faint
fifties.
T-t-t-t-t-trick or t-t-t-t-treat! Maybe I'll hand out popsicles this
year...
Don Foreman
From a century ago, no less. Neat!
Don Foreman
I have two such braces. Problem is clearance: some of the eyes had to
go within a couple of inches of an upright.
Doug White
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He covered a variety of approaches. He started out working on time locks
for the Walthm Watch company. Folks would ignore the annual maintenance,
and the locks would fail. For big bank vaults, the best approach was to
bust through a wall. For old safes, you can drill out the locking bar in
the combination lock. He discussed all of the new tricks they have with
tugsten carbide parts to make it hard to drill, and glass rods that
activate extra locking mechanisms if they get broken. If you are a legit
safe cracker, you have time to use approaches that are too slow for
crooks. Safes are rated in terms of the number of hours it takes to bust
in. As long as you have a security detail check up more often than that,
you are in good shape.
Plenty of folks just use their birthday, or an anniversary for their
combination. There were also lots of cases (like deceased store owners)
where folks would write down the combination someplace, and the easiest
thing was to find that. Frequently it was pretty convenient to the safe.
The alarm code for my house was neaty written down in small print near to
the alarm box when we moved in. Probably not where a thief would find it
in time to disarm the alarm, but there if the homeowner (who knew where
to look) forget the code.
Doug White
Larry Jaques
<dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> scrawled the following:
>On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:06:44 -0700, Larry Jaques
So, Don, who says you can't install an eye at an angle? Drill a
shallow starter hole and go for it!
Carla Fong
> "Don Foreman" <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
> news:nm00d5plfq6ej86vm...@4ax.com...
>> While having absolutely no relevance to either politics or guns, I
>> still thought a few might find this of passing interest.
>>
>> I made a tool for removing and/or driving screw eyes. Simple and
>> probably obvious once seen, I gotta tellya I've been doing this job
>> every two or three years for over a decade but I never thought of
>> making this silly little tool until today.
>>
>> http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/screweye_tool/
>>
A very similar tool (sold for inserting and removing suspended ceiling
threaded supports) is available at most lumber yards and home
improvement stores. It works with most round screw eyes too!
Carla
The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are
composed entirely of lost airline luggage. --Mark Russell
Don Foreman
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
I suppose I could -- but the cordless drill sure makes quick work of
it.
Don Foreman
wrote:
I think the neat part is that we who have shops and skills can do this
sort of thing. One can buy a shoulder bolt to replace the worn one
holding the front wheel on the lawn mower. It only costs a couple of
bux and only takes about 4 hours finding a dealer that has one and is
open. Or...we can go to the lathe, make one in about 10 minutes,
finish mowing the lawn and be sipping a brewski rather than standing
in line somewhere only to be told that bolt was discontinued by the
mfr in 1983. ("But the mower was made in 1991!" "Too bad, NEXT!")
DoN. Nichols
> While having absolutely no relevance to either politics or guns, I
> still thought a few might find this of passing interest.
>
> I made a tool for removing and/or driving screw eyes. Simple and
> probably obvious once seen, I gotta tellya I've been doing this job
> every two or three years for over a decade but I never thought of
> making this silly little tool until today.
>
> http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/screweye_tool/
>
> I made the tool in under an hour, went out and used it, then gave it a
> quick black oxide treatment before supper because with any luck I'll
> be wanting this tool again in 3 years or so.
A neat tool -- but I've got one which came as a part of a
multi-style bit set (Allen, Torx, security versions of those, tri-wing
and offset-wing Phillips and even a clutch head bit or two (how long
since you've seen a clutch-head screw?).
The thing which puzzled me was a hex-shanked (like all the
others) tool with a pot metal 'Y' cast onto the end. There is a groove
in the inner faces of the 'Y', and I finally saw a web page offering a
similar set of bits which explained that this was to drive screw eyes
and cup hooks. Sure enough -- it works great for that.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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Jim Wilkins
> ..Or...we can go to the lathe, make one in about 10 minutes,
> finish mowing the lawn and be sipping a brewski rather than standing
> in line somewhere only to be told that bolt was discontinued by the
> mfr in 1983. ("But the mower was made in 1991!" "Too bad, NEXT!")
My lawnmower was made around 1955 and is slowly becoming completely
home-made.
jsw
Michael A. Terrell
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