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Stormin Mormon

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Sep 12, 2010, 10:20:34 PM9/12/10
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I'd like to build something like this:
http://tpmoneysaver.com/dnn/Home.aspx
but can't justify $1195.00 plus tax, titles, shipping, etc. Can buy a
lot of TP for twelve c'notes, and not have to worry about the machine
breaking.

How would I build something like this at home?

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Dennis

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Sep 12, 2010, 11:56:21 PM9/12/10
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61##spamblock**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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how about modifying the skimmer belt design - perhaps add a hands free
option while you are at it:


http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-g/portable-belt-oil-skimmer-374837.jpg


You could then do away without buying any more toilet paper ever, ever
again.


Buddy Beavers

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Sep 13, 2010, 12:01:47 AM9/13/10
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61##spamblock**@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Just go to your democrat government office and help yourself to as much
"Obama paper" that you need. It's from his stash.

Don Foreman

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Sep 13, 2010, 12:51:08 AM9/13/10
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:20:34 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61##spamblock**@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I'd like to build something like this:
> http://tpmoneysaver.com/dnn/Home.aspx
>but can't justify $1195.00 plus tax, titles, shipping, etc. Can buy a
>lot of TP for twelve c'notes, and not have to worry about the machine
>breaking.
>
>How would I build something like this at home?

Give 'em a squirt gun and a blow dryer...

kfvo...@gmail.com

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Sep 13, 2010, 6:41:51 AM9/13/10
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On Sep 12, 4:20 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

Modify an old tape or video recorder.
Karl

Larry Jaques

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Sep 13, 2010, 9:25:23 AM9/13/10
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Yeah, beats the expense of a bidet.

As far as I've ever seen, companies with large TP bills use
self-ending TP containers. You pull paper off until it runs completely
out and then the next roll drops down for attempted use. Is this
company serious? Small company employees set the nearly empty rolls on
the back of the toilet tank and they're used by employees until
they're gone, too. Wut up wi dis?

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when a reasonable being withdraws from the noise in
order to find peace and order in his inner sanctuary.
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Michael A. Terrell

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Sep 13, 2010, 10:32:46 AM9/13/10
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Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:51:08 -0500, Don Foreman
> <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:20:34 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
> ><cayoung61##spamblock**@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I'd like to build something like this:
> >> http://tpmoneysaver.com/dnn/Home.aspx
> >>but can't justify $1195.00 plus tax, titles, shipping, etc. Can buy a
> >>lot of TP for twelve c'notes, and not have to worry about the machine
> >>breaking.
> >>
> >>How would I build something like this at home?
> >
> >Give 'em a squirt gun and a blow dryer...
>
> Yeah, beats the expense of a bidet.
>
> As far as I've ever seen, companies with large TP bills use
> self-ending TP containers. You pull paper off until it runs completely
> out and then the next roll drops down for attempted use. Is this
> company serious? Small company employees set the nearly empty rolls on
> the back of the toilet tank and they're used by employees until
> they're gone, too. Wut up wi dis?


"Employees will wipe & wash their hands before leaving!!!"

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rangerssuck

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Sep 13, 2010, 10:38:12 AM9/13/10
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On Sep 13, 9:25 am, Larry Jaques <ljaq...@invalid.diversify.com>
wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:51:08 -0500, Don Foreman
>
> <dfore...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
> >On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:20:34 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
> ><cayoung61##spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>I'd like to build something like this:
> >>    http://tpmoneysaver.com/dnn/Home.aspx
> >>but can't justify $1195.00 plus tax, titles, shipping, etc. Can buy a
> >>lot of TP for twelve c'notes, and not have to worry about the machine
> >>breaking.
>
> >>How would I build something like this at home?
>
> >Give 'em a squirt gun and a blow dryer...
>
> Yeah, beats the expense of a bidet.
>
> As far as I've ever seen, companies with large TP bills use
> self-ending TP containers. You pull paper off until it runs completely
> out and then the next roll drops down for attempted use. Is this
> company serious? Small company employees set the nearly empty rolls on
> the back of the toilet tank and they're used by employees until
> they're gone, too.  Wut up wi dis?
>

This is not for the freeway rest stop or for the employee's can. It's
for hotels & the like which usually place a fresh roll when a guest
checks out. I can imagine a larger hotel saving significant money with
something like this.

Jim Wilkins

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Sep 13, 2010, 10:46:33 AM9/13/10
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On Sep 12, 10:20 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

<cayoung61##spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to build something like this:
>    http://tpmoneysaver.com/dnn/Home.aspx
> but can't justify $1195.00 plus tax, titles, shipping, etc. Can buy a
> lot of TP for twelve c'notes, and not have to worry about the machine
> breaking.
>
> How would I build something like this at home?
> Christopher A. Young

You don't have a lathe?

jsw

CaveLamb

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Sep 13, 2010, 12:38:17 PM9/13/10
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:51:08 -0500, Don Foreman
> <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:20:34 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
>> <cayoung61##spamblock**@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to build something like this:
>>> http://tpmoneysaver.com/dnn/Home.aspx
>>> but can't justify $1195.00 plus tax, titles, shipping, etc. Can buy a
>>> lot of TP for twelve c'notes, and not have to worry about the machine
>>> breaking.
>>>
>>> How would I build something like this at home?
>> Give 'em a squirt gun and a blow dryer...
>
> Yeah, beats the expense of a bidet.
>
> As far as I've ever seen, companies with large TP bills use
> self-ending TP containers. You pull paper off until it runs completely
> out and then the next roll drops down for attempted use. Is this
> company serious? Small company employees set the nearly empty rolls on
> the back of the toilet tank and they're used by employees until
> they're gone, too. Wut up wi dis?
>

I guessed it was for a federal government cost savings program...

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J. Clarke

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Sep 13, 2010, 1:00:13 PM9/13/10
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On 9/13/2010 10:32 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:51:08 -0500, Don Foreman
>> <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:20:34 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
>>> <cayoung61##spamblock**@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd like to build something like this:
>>>> http://tpmoneysaver.com/dnn/Home.aspx
>>>> but can't justify $1195.00 plus tax, titles, shipping, etc. Can buy a
>>>> lot of TP for twelve c'notes, and not have to worry about the machine
>>>> breaking.
>>>>
>>>> How would I build something like this at home?
>>>
>>> Give 'em a squirt gun and a blow dryer...
>>
>> Yeah, beats the expense of a bidet.
>>
>> As far as I've ever seen, companies with large TP bills use
>> self-ending TP containers. You pull paper off until it runs completely
>> out and then the next roll drops down for attempted use. Is this
>> company serious? Small company employees set the nearly empty rolls on
>> the back of the toilet tank and they're used by employees until
>> they're gone, too. Wut up wi dis?
>
>
> "Employees will wipe& wash their hands before leaving!!!"

I think it's aimed at hotels and the like, where they have a lot of
toilet paper in circulation at any given time, even if no particular
roll gets used up with any rapidity.

Rich Grise

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Sep 14, 2010, 5:52:49 PM9/14/10
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:20:34 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

> I'd like to build something like this:
> http://tpmoneysaver.com/dnn/Home.aspx
> but can't justify $1195.00 plus tax, titles, shipping, etc. Can buy a
> lot of TP for twelve c'notes, and not have to worry about the machine
> breaking.
>
> How would I build something like this at home?

Sheesh! I've heard, "reduce, re-use, recycle", but this is ridiculous!

After I use my toilet paper, I flush it.

Maybe you should look into corncobs. ;-P

Good Luck!
Rich


Rich Grise

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Sep 14, 2010, 5:55:43 PM9/14/10
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:32:46 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>> As far as I've ever seen, companies with large TP bills use
>> self-ending TP containers. You pull paper off until it runs completely
>> out and then the next roll drops down for attempted use. Is this
>> company serious? Small company employees set the nearly empty rolls on
>> the back of the toilet tank and they're used by employees until
>> they're gone, too. Wut up wi dis?
>
> "Employees will wipe & wash their hands before leaving!!!"

I read an item which is more up Mr. Language Person's alley - some
guy wrote that there was a sign in the restroom: "Employees must
wash your hands."

He said that he waited almost 45 minutes in the restroom until
some employee showed up to wash his hands. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

CaveLamb

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Sep 14, 2010, 10:26:19 PM9/14/10
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http://blogs.static.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/40088.html


How America Convinced the World to Wipe

Since the dawn of time, people have found nifty ways to clean up after the
bathroom act. The most common solution was simply to grab what was at hand:
coconuts, shells, snow, moss, hay, leaves, grass, corncobs, sheep’s wool—and,
later, thanks to the printing press—newspapers, magazines, and pages of books.
The ancient Greeks used clay and stone. The Romans, sponges and salt water. But
the idea of a commercial product designed solely to wipe one’s bum? That started
about 150 years ago, right here in the U.S.A. In less than a century, Uncle
Sam’s marketing genius turned something disposable into something indispensable.


How Toilet Paper Got on a Roll

The first products designed specifically to wipe one’s nethers were aloe-infused
sheets of manila hemp dispensed from Kleenex-like boxes. They were invented in
1857 by a New York entrepreneur named Joseph Gayetty, who claimed his sheets
prevented hemorrhoids. Gayetty was so proud of his therapeutic bathroom paper
that he had his name printed on each sheet. But his success was limited.
Americans soon grew accustomed to wiping with the Sears Roebuck catalog, and
they saw no need to spend money on something that came in the mail for free.

Toilet paper took its next leap forward in 1890, when two brothers named
Clarence and E. Irvin Scott popularized the concept of toilet paper on a roll.
The Scotts’ brand became more successful than Gayetty’s medicated wipes, in part
because they built a steady trade selling toilet paper to hotels and drugstores.
But it was still an uphill battle to get the public to openly buy the product,
largely because Americans remained embarrassed by bodily functions. In fact, the
Scott brothers were so ashamed of the nature of their work that they didn’t take
proper credit for their innovation until 1902.

“No one wanted to ask for it by name,” says Dave Praeger, author of Poop
Culture: How America Is Shaped by Its Grossest National Product. “It was so
taboo that you couldn’t even talk about the product.” By 1930, the German paper
company Hakle began using the tag line, “Ask for a roll of Hakle and you won’t
have to say toilet paper!”

As time passed, toilet tissues slowly became an American staple. But widespread
acceptance of the product didn’t officially occur until a new technology
demanded it. At the end of the 19th century, more and more homes were being
built with sit-down flush toilets tied to indoor plumbing systems. And because
people required a product that could be flushed away with minimal damage to the
pipes, corncobs and moss no longer cut it. In no time, toilet paper ads boasted
that the product was recommended by both doctors and plumbers.
The Strength of Going Soft

In the early 1900s, toilet paper was still being marketed as a medicinal item.
But in 1928, the Hoberg Paper Company tried a different tack. On the advice of
its ad men, the company introduced a brand called Charmin and fitted the product
with a feminine logo that depicted a beautiful woman. The genius of the campaign
was that by evincing softness and femininity, the company could avoid talking
about toilet paper’s actual purpose. Charmin was enormously successful, and the
tactic helped the brand survive the Great Depression. (It also helped that, in
1932, Charmin began marketing economy-size packs of four rolls.) Decades later,
the dainty ladies were replaced with babies and bear cubs—advertising vehicles
that still stock the aisles today.

By the 1970s, America could no longer conceive of life without toilet paper.
Case in point: In December 1973, Tonight Show host Johnny Carson joked about a
toilet paper shortage during his opening monologue. But America didn’t laugh.
Instead, TV watchers across the country ran out to their local grocery stores
and bought up as much of the stuff as they could. In 1978, a TV Guide poll
named Mr. Whipple—the affable grocer who implored customers, “Please don’t
squeeze the Charmin”—the third best-known man in America, behind former
President Richard Nixon and the Rev. Billy Graham.
Currently, the United States spends more than $6 billion a year on toilet
tissue—more than any other nation in the world. Americans, on average, use 57
squares a day and 50 lbs. a year.

Even still, the toilet paper market in the United States has largely plateaued.
The real growth in the industry is happening in developing countries. There,
it’s booming. Toilet paper revenues in Brazil alone have more than doubled since
2004. The radical upswing in sales is believed to be driven by a combination of
changing demographics, social expectations, and disposable income.

“The spread of globalization can kind of be measured by the spread of Western
bathroom practices,” says Praeger. When average citizens in a country start
buying toilet paper, wealth and consumerism have arrived. It signifies that
people not only have extra cash to spend, but they’ve also come under the
influence of Western marketing.
America Without Toilet Paper

Even as the markets boom in developing nations, toilet paper manufacturers find
themselves needing to charge more per roll to make a profit. That’s because
production costs are rising. During the past few years, pulp has become more
expensive, energy costs are rising, and even water is becoming scarce. Toilet
paper companies may need to keep hiking up their prices. The question is, if
toilet paper becomes a luxury item, can Americans live without it?

The truth is that we did live without it, for a very long time. And even now, a
lot of people do. In Japan, the Washlet—a toilet that comes equipped with a
bidet and an air-blower—is growing increasingly popular. And all over the world,
water remains one of the most common methods of self-cleaning. Many places in
India, the Middle East, and Asia, for instance, still depend on a bucket and a
spigot. But as our economy continues to circle the drain, will Americans part
with their beloved toilet paper in order to adopt more money-saving measures? Or
will we keep flushing our cash away? Praeger, for one, believes a toilet-paper
apocalypse is hardly likely. After all, the American marketing machine is a
powerful thing.

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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

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I think that's correct. They like to leave a room with a full roll, so
it means throwing out partialy used ones. They can save money by
re-rolling partial rolls.

Nobody else seems to care. Most public restrooms use a big 'clip'. When
one roll is expended, the next one drops into the chamber (sorry for the
visual).

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Stormin Mormon

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Sep 15, 2010, 9:00:05 AM9/15/10
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My church has about 10 toilets, and each has a double paper roll. So,
both rolls are available at all times. The paper runs down, and then
there are only a couple sheets on one of the rolls. I'd like to be
able to combine rolls, so none of the rolls looks really empty.

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Stormin Mormon

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Some hotels have a single roll in the bathroom. And they prefer that
single roll to be more full than empty.

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J. Clarke

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Sep 15, 2010, 9:53:37 AM9/15/10
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On 9/15/2010 9:01 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Some hotels have a single roll in the bathroom. And they prefer that
> single roll to be more full than empty.

With good reason for both. An extra roll in the bathroom is likely to
get pilfered with the soap. And if the paper runs out then you have a
guest who has to go to the phone with crap on his butt and wait with his
pants down for room service to deliver another roll, a situation, which
is generally unpleasant for all involved (the guest with crap on their
butt and no pants is more likely to look like Halsey than Grable, so not
even the guy who delivers the roll ends up having any fun).


Martin H. Eastburn

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Sep 15, 2010, 10:42:06 PM9/15/10
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Ah - never been in Europe. That is what a shower is for.
They also have a pot without a top and a funny spray coming up.

Martin

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Stormin Mormon

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Sep 16, 2010, 7:51:24 PM9/16/10
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It's probably bad PR for a guest to have to take a dump, only to find
no TP. I guess that's why they have the smaller towels on the rack of
rings, by the sink. Can always tear up the paper floor mat in the
bathroom, too.

I should market toilet paper with itchy powder. So the hotels could
leave the itchy roll on top of the toilet, and use regular rolls.
People who are a PIA could get what they deserve.

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Stormin Mormon

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That's a Paul Revere crapper. One if by night, and two if bidet.

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neilva...@gmail.com

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im the owner of tp re-roller and the engineering took over 5 years and is patented sorry but the price is under 800.00

Bob Engelhardt

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Mar 20, 2016, 7:39:37 PM3/20/16
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That link doesn't work - it is from 2010. This video shows a re-roller
made by Milton Foss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYWfaDIE5UA

If that's the one that you now own, I don't think that your patent would
hold up. I don't think that it would withstand an "obviousness" challenge.

Regardless of the patent's validity, nobody is ever sued for building a
patented device for his own use.

Bob

William Bagwell

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Mar 20, 2016, 8:49:38 PM3/20/16
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Good grief! Solving the wrong problem and spreading germs in the
process. Throw them nasty suckers away! Or just give them to the
janitor who is probably immune to everything already:-O

What would sell is a device that turns cheap 'John Wayne' TP into
soft premium tissue with the turn of a hand crank. Way cheaper than
electric motors. The "customer" does all the work and since you
would need one at each stall the gross profits might be even higher.
Two rollers, one perhaps rubber and the other metal with a whole
bunch of pointy bumps which put the 'high dollar' pattern on the TP.
Should last for decades...

Free idea for anyone who wants to run with it. I have too many
already.
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William

Gunner Asch

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 19:38:44 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
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Im trying to figure out WHY anybody would do this.....?

gerald...@yahoo.ca

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 18:24:01 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
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some people have a shitty life
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Robert Sander

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Some factors change the length, such as the size of the cardboard tubes and sheets and whether there are embossing elements. They also make every roll of toilet paper weigh differently.

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