Cordless Phone batteries are all junk?
Ignoramus20496
nature, or perhaps I had very unusual bad luck.
We have a Uniden cordless phone system that works very well, except
that original batteries (BT-0003) have gone bad over the years.
Attempts to replace them with "Non-OEM", "Equivalent" bateries did not
work well, basically those are junk that is falsely advertised. The
sellers simply know that the batteries are uneconomical to return, so
they sell junk that will not hold charge.
This particular battery BT-0003 seems to be no longer available from
Uniden. When it was available years ago, it cost as must as a new
handset.
That price relationship leads me to believe that cordless phone
manufacturers purposely equip their phones with substandard batteries
or charging circuits, in order to sell more cordless phones.
I would like to know whether there is some "honest" cordless phone
systems that, say, use rechargeable AA batteries or something like
that that has easy, economical replacement, or where good replacement
batteries are available from known honest sellers.
Thanks
i
Ignoramus20496
> This particular battery BT-0003 seems to be no longer available from
> Uniden. When it was available years ago, it cost as must as a new
> handset.
Update, I did find it at Uniden for $25 apiece, plus shipping.
http://www.unidendirect.com/accdetail.cfm?item=BBTY0545001
This fact really does not change my question.
i
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We get our NMH AA cells from Batteryjunction.com. Have not heard of a
bad one. I don't know if they have the battery you specify, or not.
Then, again, you may have to but them by the case.
Paul
JR North
often make up your own battery pack with the right cells. Try:
http://stores.ebay.com/All-Battery-Center
I recently made up a replacement pack for my Roomba, at a 3rd of the
cost of the OEM pack, using sub-C NimH w/tab batteries.
JR
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:03:56 -0600, Ignoramus20496
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:03:56 -0600, Ignoramus20496
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Gunner Asch
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.20496.invalid> wrote:
Ive had EXCELLENT luck with these people
http://www.batteryspecialties.com/
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Dave Platt
>systems that, say, use rechargeable AA batteries or something like
>that that has easy, economical replacement, or where good replacement
>batteries are available from known honest sellers.
Some of the older Siemens 2.4-gig cordless phones take a pair of
standard AA NiCd or NiMH button-end cells. I don't know if that's
still true of their current models.
You might want to consider sending your existing battery packs to a
reputable battery rebuilder... they can often open the case without
destroying it, and replace the cells inside.
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Don Foreman
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.20496.invalid> wrote:
Not meeting your expectations for longevity is not dishonest if they
honor their stated warranty. Lowest price isn't always best value.
You're just not as good at finding bargains in new consumer
electronics as you are with gov't surplus machine tools and such.
Jeff Liebermann
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.20496.invalid> wrote:
>We have a Uniden cordless phone system that works very well,
Any particular model number Uniden phone system?
>except
>that original batteries (BT-0003) have gone bad over the years.
How many years? My various Panasonic cordless phones seem to last
about 8-10 years. I'm on the original batteries for all of them.
>Attempts to replace them with "Non-OEM", "Equivalent" bateries did not
>work well,
What didn't work well? Did the battery run down too quickly? Did you
have inadequate capacity (time running on battery)? Did it fail to
take a charge? Any measurements or numbers?
>basically those are junk that is falsely advertised.
Yep. 99% of everything is junk.
>The
>sellers simply know that the batteries are uneconomical to return, so
>they sell junk that will not hold charge.
That's quite possible. I've received some fairly disgusting cell
phone batteries that I would suspect are defective. The eBay vendor
exchanged them at his expense. However, you're right that such low
end stuff is usually not economical to return. If you want cheap,
then be prepared to take some risks. If you want a warranty, be
prepared to pay for it.
>This particular battery BT-0003 seems to be no longer available from
>Uniden. When it was available years ago, it cost as must as a new
>handset.
A quick Google search shows many vendors that sell this battery:
<http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&source=hp&q=uniden%20bt-0003>
at reasonable prices. I've also rebuilt these battery packs. Tear it
apart and weld some AAA NiMH rechargeable batteries in their place.
This is not brain surgery.
>That price relationship leads me to believe that cordless phone
>manufacturers purposely equip their phones with substandard batteries
>or charging circuits, in order to sell more cordless phones.
Yep. Quality deteriorates until buyers start to complain. It then
sits forever just above the complaint threshold.
>I would like to know whether there is some "honest" cordless phone
>systems that, say, use rechargeable AA batteries or something like
>that that has easy, economical replacement, or where good replacement
>batteries are available from known honest sellers.
Probably, but I don't know of any offhand. There seems to be a
tradition (or conspiracy) that every handset product, including cell
phones, must have a non-standard or weird shaped battery. Inside,
they're all basically the same batteries, but manufacturers go through
extreme efforts to prevent interchangeability. It wasn't always that
way as I still recall the old 46/49Mhz phones, that used common AA
NiCd batteries. Something changed, probably product liability
litigation, which forced the manufacturers to change.
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Pete C.
Buy quality replacement cells from DigiKey and rebuild the batteries
yourself.
Mark Zacharias
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My experience has been that original batteries shipped with the devices are
good - often lasting 10 years or more - but that replacements don't hold up.
I've purchased replacement cordless phone batteries at Radio Shack which
only lasted about a year.
I have a Black & Decker cordless screwdriver. The original battery packaged
with the unit has much greater capacity than the free one I had a coupon for
and had to mail in.
I think they use the lower mAh "rejects" for the freebies.
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Bob Engelhardt
> ... My various Panasonic cordless phones seem to last
> about 8-10 years. I'm on the original batteries for all of them.
Me too. I've had the Panasonic on my desk for 5 -6 years & it came from
the dump, so who knows how many years before I got it. Bob
Doug White
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I'll throw in another vote for Panasonic. We've had a couple flavors
over the years. I started with 900 MHz phones, but they interfered with
the wireless speaker system I've got & we needed an answering machine
with more phones for the new house. We now have both running, with the
900's relegated to the shop where they don't get used much. The
batteries hold up very well, and I found out the hard way that
aftermarket replacements are junk. As expensive as they are, I'll stick
with OEM batterieies for the phones.
Doug White
Wes
My Panasonic phone has to be 10 years old. I've changed the battery once.
It doesn't live in the cradle though so when I return it to charge, it is generally fairly
depleted. I wonder if a phone that spends most of its life in the charge cradle has
shorter battery life?
Wes
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"Ignoramus20496" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.20496.invalid> wrote in message
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>I would like to know if my cell phone battery situation is of general
> nature, or perhaps I had very unusual bad luck.
>
> We have a Uniden cordless phone system that works very well, except
> that original batteries (BT-0003) have gone bad over the years.
>
> Attempts to replace them with "Non-OEM", "Equivalent" bateries did not
> work well, basically those are junk that is falsely advertised. The
> sellers simply know that the batteries are uneconomical to return, so
> they sell junk that will not hold charge.
On the other hand, I replaced the batteries in 2 Motorola cordless phones
with batteries I bought on Ebay from China for 2/$1.00 + $3 shipping. They
hold a charge noticeably longer than the OEM which worked just fine. I
guess I just got lucky.
Steve B
"JR North" <junkjas...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Not familiar with that particular battery configuration, but you can
> often make up your own battery pack with the right cells. Try:
> http://stores.ebay.com/All-Battery-Center
> I recently made up a replacement pack for my Roomba, at a 3rd of the
> cost of the OEM pack, using sub-C NimH w/tab batteries.
> JR
> Dweller in the cellar
I got a local Batteries Plus, and if you take your old battery pack in
there, chances are pretty good that he can make you one just like it out of
components, and the prices are darn good. I have a Uniden police scanner,
and getting a battery pack made was half the price they wanted, even online.
Steve
David Lesher
>My Panasonic phone has to be 10 years old. I've changed the battery once.
>It doesn't live in the cradle though so when I return it to charge, it is generally fairly
>depleted. I wonder if a phone that spends most of its life in the charge cradle has
>shorter battery life?
Bingo. Most phone cook their batteries.
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Michael A. Terrell
Don Foreman wrote:
>
> Not meeting your expectations for longevity is not dishonest if they
> honor their stated warranty. Lowest price isn't always best value.
> You're just not as good at finding bargains in new consumer
> electronics as you are with gov't surplus machine tools and such.
He also ignores the fact that the phones may have problems that are
damaging the batteries. K-mart sells replacements for that battery pack
for about $7. the problem is, how long have any of the replacement
packs been sitting on the shelf?
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Ignoramus9012
All I want, is a battery pack that would last me 4 years. You have a
good point that perhaps the chargers are damaging batteries. My
understanding of this is that the chargers are programmed to charge
only one type of battery (such as Ni-MH), whereas replacements are of
another type and that ruins them quicker than necessary.
i
hr(bob) hofmann@att.net
Do you mean cordless phone or cellphone, they are two different
animals in how they use power?
Wes
>Bingo. Most phone cook their batteries.
I don't charge my Braun cordless toothbrush either until it slows down. Between the
first and the second one, I must have 15 years.
RBnDFW
> Not familiar with that particular battery configuration, but you can
> often make up your own battery pack with the right cells. Try:
> http://stores.ebay.com/All-Battery-Center
> I recently made up a replacement pack for my Roomba, at a 3rd of the
> cost of the OEM pack, using sub-C NimH w/tab batteries.
JR, I've got a dead Rhoomba, and would sure like some details on that.
Rex
RBnDFW
> David Lesher <wb8...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> Bingo. Most phone cook their batteries.
>
>
> I don't charge my Braun cordless toothbrush either until it slows down. Between the
> first and the second one, I must have 15 years.
My Sonicare lives in the charger.
I don't recall how old it is, but the plastic has aged from white to
yellow to brown. Of course the batteries are non-replaceable, so maybe
they used the best technology up front.