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Richard W.

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Feb 16, 2010, 1:11:32 PM2/16/10
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Taken from;

http://www.nagr.org/brounsurvey1.aspx?roi=echo3-5833058869-3933042-9f6acccb856a622610ae8986fbf6a55c&pid=fs

Congressman Paul Broun's (R-GA) audio briefing on H.R. 45

Please take a few minutes to listen the short audio briefing Rep. Paul Broun
(R-GA) has recorded for you.

Unless you and I act now, H.R. 45, one of the most draconian gun control
bills ever introduced, will continue to gain steam in Congress.

That's why it is so important that you take the short Gun Rights Survey
below.

And after you've completed the survey, please make an emergency contribution
of $50 or more to the National Association for Gun Rights.

The National Association for Gun Rights is dedicated to protecting your
Second Amendment rights. We will never stop fighting the constant onslaught
of anti-gun legislation from Sarah Brady's cronies in Congress, but
overcoming such a well-financed enemy is a difficult battle.

Only with the financial support of grassroots gun owners can help Nation
Association for Gun Rights prevail in the fight to fight for your rights.
Please make a generous contribution.

P.S. H.R. 45 is the most draconian gun control measure of recent memory, and
it's only the beginning. Obama's reign could last another seven years, and
the anti-gun lobbies in Congress won't relent any time soon.

Help NAGR fight for your right to keep and bear arms. Please listen to
Congressman Broun's message, and take all the actions he requests.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Copyright � 2009 National Association for Gun Rights


Ed Huntress

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Feb 16, 2010, 2:06:28 PM2/16/10
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"Richard W." <raw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Taken from;
>
> http://www.nagr.org/brounsurvey1.aspx?roi=echo3-5833058869-3933042-9f6acccb856a622610ae8986fbf6a55c&pid=fs
>
> Congressman Paul Broun's (R-GA) audio briefing on H.R. 45
>
> Please take a few minutes to listen the short audio briefing Rep. Paul
> Broun (R-GA) has recorded for you.
>
> Unless you and I act now, H.R. 45, one of the most draconian gun control
> bills ever introduced, will continue to gain steam in Congress.
>
> That's why it is so important that you take the short Gun Rights Survey
> below.
>
> And after you've completed the survey, please make an emergency
> contribution of $50 or more to the National Association for Gun Rights.

That bill was introduced over a year ago, before Obama was even sworn in,
and it was Bobby Rush who introduced it. It has no co-sponsors and it's
clearly a local politics initiative to deal with the death of a kid on a bus
in Chicago, which raised a local uproar. It took over a year to even make it
to committee. It may never even come *out* of committee, and it surely will
die if it does.

OTOH, if you want to keep feeding the NAGR with your money, I'm sure they'll
periodically make a plea for funds to "fight" this "onerous" bill. Or
they'll write something that says they are. Or something. Maybe.

--
Ed Huntress


Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 16, 2010, 4:36:58 PM2/16/10
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On Feb 16, 1:06 pm, "Ed Huntress" <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Richard W." <rawe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:nPCdnTgNu6dLQufW...@molalla.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Taken from;
>
> >http://www.nagr.org/brounsurvey1.aspx?roi=echo3-5833058869-3933042-9f...

>
> > Congressman Paul Broun's (R-GA) audio briefing on H.R. 45
>
> > Please take a few minutes to listen the short audio briefing Rep. Paul
> > Broun (R-GA) has recorded for you.
>
> > Unless you and I act now, H.R. 45, one of the most draconian gun control
> > bills ever introduced, will continue to gain steam in Congress.
>
> > That's why it is so important that you take the short Gun Rights Survey
> > below.
>
> > And after you've completed the survey, please make an emergency
> > contribution of $50 or more to the National Association for Gun Rights.
>
> That bill was introduced over a year ago, before Obama was even sworn in,
> and it was Bobby Rush who introduced it. It has no co-sponsors and it's
> clearly a local politics initiative to deal with the death of a kid on a bus
> in Chicago, which raised a local uproar. It took over a year to even make it
> to committee. It may never even come *out* of committee, and it surely will
> die if it does.
>
> OTOH, if you want to keep feeding the NAGR with your money, I'm sure they'll
> periodically make a plea for funds to "fight" this "onerous" bill. Or
> they'll write something that says they are. Or something. Maybe.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I hear NAGR is running low on champagne and caviar.

TMT

John R. Carroll

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Feb 16, 2010, 5:48:47 PM2/16/10
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Hasn't Rush been introducing this same bill at the beginning of every
session?


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John R. Carroll


Ed Huntress

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Feb 16, 2010, 6:16:47 PM2/16/10
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"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
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It sounds familiar, all right. I dunno.

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Ed Huntress


John R. Carroll

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Feb 16, 2010, 6:40:06 PM2/16/10
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At Blair Holt's funeral, Rep. Bobby Rush of Illinois (representing the
state's First Congressional district) promised to honor Holt's memory by
introducing a strong gun tracking bill in Congress. One month later, Rep.
Rush introduced Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act to
Congress, but it was referred to a subcommittee and languished there without
ever having been voted upon. On 6 January 2009, Rush introduced essentially
the same bill to Congress again as Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record
of Sale Act of 2009 (H.R. 45).


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John R. Carroll


Eregon

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Feb 16, 2010, 6:48:30 PM2/16/10
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"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in
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The bill will continue to languish in Committee in perpetuity.

There are lots of bills such as this that get entered every session
simply to let some small-time Congresscritter brag about it to his
constituents at election time.


Wes

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Feb 16, 2010, 7:09:00 PM2/16/10
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"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote:

>Hasn't Rush been introducing this same bill at the beginning of every
>session?

Just like a lot of other bills going no where from other politicians.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Ed Huntress

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Feb 16, 2010, 7:46:28 PM2/16/10
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"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
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Yeah, there you go. Three years, and still no co-sponsors.

The only thing this bill is going to do is to drum up donations for the gun
organizations. They'll drag it up whenever their coffers are getting a
little low.

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Ed Huntress


Ed Huntress

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Feb 16, 2010, 7:48:23 PM2/16/10
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"Eregon" <Era...@Saphira.org> wrote in message
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Exactly. And sometimes it's a personal cause. But they never go anywhere
unless they tap into a popular position, which gun control, particularly a
comprehensive registration scheme, most definitely is not.

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Ed Huntress


John R. Carroll

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Feb 16, 2010, 7:47:46 PM2/16/10
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Yep.
I remember all of the gun nutz wailing over this when Obama was elected.
My comment at the time that the chances of this passing were slim and none
with the emphasis on the latter.


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John R. Carroll


edspyhill01

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Feb 16, 2010, 8:09:44 PM2/16/10
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On Feb 16, 1:11 pm, "Richard W." <rawe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Taken from;
>
> http://www.nagr.org/brounsurvey1.aspx?roi=echo3-5833058869-3933042-9f...

>
> Congressman Paul Broun's (R-GA) audio briefing on H.R. 45
>
> Please take a few minutes to listen the short audio briefing Rep. Paul Broun
> (R-GA) has recorded for you.
>
> Unless you and I act now, H.R. 45, one of the most draconian gun control
> bills ever introduced, will continue to gain steam in Congress.
>
> That's why it is so important that you take the short Gun Rights Survey
> below.
>
> And after you've completed the survey, please make an emergency contribution
> of $50 or more to the National Association for Gun Rights.
>
> The National Association for Gun Rights is dedicated to protecting your
> Second Amendment rights.  We will never stop fighting the constant onslaught
> of anti-gun legislation from Sarah Brady's cronies in Congress, but
> overcoming such a well-financed enemy is a difficult battle.
>
> Only with the financial support of grassroots gun owners can help Nation
> Association for Gun Rights prevail in the fight to fight for your rights.
> Please make a generous contribution.
>
> P.S. H.R. 45 is the most draconian gun control measure of recent memory, and
> it's only the beginning.  Obama's reign could last another seven years, and
> the anti-gun lobbies in Congress won't relent any time soon.
>
> Help NAGR fight for your right to keep and bear arms.  Please listen to
> Congressman Broun's message, and take all the actions he requests.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----

>
> Copyright © 2009 National Association for Gun Rights

How many earmarks are in the bill?

Ed Huntress

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Feb 16, 2010, 8:12:56 PM2/16/10
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"edspyhill01" <edspy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

If you find any, let us know.

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Ed Huntress


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Ed Huntress

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Feb 16, 2010, 8:27:04 PM2/16/10
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"Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-02-16 17:12:56 -0800, "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net>
> said:
>
>>> How many earmarks are in the bill?
>>
>> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:
>>
>> If you find any, let us know.
>
> Gotta love it. Earmarks from left-wing douche bags (redundancy alert) in
> bills that rape the Constitution are okay.
>
> But earmarks in a bill to defend SCOTUS-decided rights are anathema.
>
> Fucking moronic Dem Party.

Did you find any earmarks in H.R. 45? Or did your hammer come down on an
empty pan?

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Ed Huntress


JoeSpareBedroom

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Feb 16, 2010, 8:36:23 PM2/16/10
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"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Looks like the elected barnacles are really excited about the legislation:

ALL ACTIONS:
introduced 1/6/2009
Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L.
Cosponsors (None)
1/6/2009: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
Latest Major Action:
2/9/2009: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland
Security.
The bill's covered with shit and nobody's ever going to touch it. Nobody.


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Ed Huntress

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Feb 16, 2010, 9:43:56 PM2/16/10
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <news...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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As we've said, there's no way this bill is going to pass. The only thing
it's going to do is to suck up some donations to the NAGR from people who
aren't paying attention.

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Ed Huntress


Ed Huntress

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Feb 16, 2010, 10:00:54 PM2/16/10
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"Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-02-16 17:27:04 -0800, "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net>
> said:
>
>>
>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
>> news:hlfg9p$lc4$1...@news.albasani.net...
>>> On 2010-02-16 17:12:56 -0800, "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>>> How many earmarks are in the bill?
>>>>
>>>> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:
>>>>
>>>> If you find any, let us know.
>>>
>>> Gotta love it. Earmarks from left-wing douche bags (redundancy alert)
>>> in
>>> bills that rape the Constitution are okay.
>>>
>>> But earmarks in a bill to defend SCOTUS-decided rights are anathema.
>>>
>>> Fucking moronic Dem Party.
>>
>> Did you find any earmarks in H.R. 45? Or did your hammer come down on an
>> empty pan?
>
> I didn't ask the question, and wasn't the OP.
>
> So sorry, asshole.

So, it was an empty pan. What were the "earmarks" you were talking about
then?

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Ed Huntress


Ignoramus21666

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Feb 16, 2010, 10:18:04 PM2/16/10
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On the one hand, we have a Bobby Rush gun bill that has failed, for
years, to gain any support whatsoever, and that is not co-sponsored by
anyone.

On the other hand, we have "NAGR" hysterically ringing alarm bells,
``Unless you and I act now, H.R. 45, one of the most draconian gun


control bills ever introduced, will continue to gain steam in

Congress.'' and demanding immediate "emergency donations".

I would like to question the honesty and integrity of an organization
that cries wolf and demands emergency donations, essentially, under
false pretenses.

i

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Ed Huntress

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Feb 17, 2010, 12:55:10 AM2/17/10
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"Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-02-16 19:00:54 -0800, "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net>
> said:
>
>>
>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
>> news:hlfi1i$nil$1...@news.albasani.net...
>>> On 2010-02-16 17:27:04 -0800, "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hlfg9p$lc4$1...@news.albasani.net...
>>>>> On 2010-02-16 17:12:56 -0800, "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net>
>>>>> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> How many earmarks are in the bill?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you find any, let us know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gotta love it. Earmarks from left-wing douche bags (redundancy alert)
>>>>> in
>>>>> bills that rape the Constitution are okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> But earmarks in a bill to defend SCOTUS-decided rights are anathema.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fucking moronic Dem Party.
>>>>
>>>> Did you find any earmarks in H.R. 45? Or did your hammer come down on
>>>> an
>>>> empty pan?
>>>
>>> I didn't ask the question, and wasn't the OP.
>>>
>>> So sorry, asshole.
>>
>> So, it was an empty pan. What were the "earmarks" you were talking about
>> then?
>
> I never claimed any existed in HR45. You might want to go back and check
> who brought them up.

In other words, your response had nothing to do with the discussion, but you
thought you'd try to slip in some comment about earmarks that was unrelated
to H.R. 45.

So you don't consider that bill to be one that "rapes the Constitution,"
because it doesn't have any earmarks. Right?

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Ed Huntress


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Ed Huntress

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Feb 17, 2010, 1:47:14 AM2/17/10
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"Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-02-16 21:55:10 -0800, "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net>
> You must be related to Joe, having trouble with context.

Nope. I wrote the context. Then you buggered it up to take a spin on your
hobby horse.

Carry on. You have nothing useful to say. See if you can help get those
Toyotas fixed.

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Ed Huntress


JoeSpareBedroom

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Feb 17, 2010, 2:16:54 AM2/17/10
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"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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But Cuntious from Texas says the bill is a problem. How are we to resolve
this? Cuntious knows everything.


JoeSpareBedroom

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"Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-02-16 21:55:10 -0800, "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net>
> You must be related to Joe, having trouble with context.
>
> Raping the Constitution involves going against it. Try to keep up.
>
> Have a life.
>


You need to stop posting until you've thought about your messages more
carefully, Cuntious.


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