Anyone here rebuild a F163 engine

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Steve B

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Nov 23, 2010, 12:39:16 AM11/23/10
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My SA200 is leaking oil from front and rear seals. Will probably put an
additive in there, but am not expecting a lot. Has anyone rebuilt one of
these four bangers? Doesn't look like anything complicated. I've rebuilt
about half a dozen V-8's in my life, the old 283/327 Chevies. Parts seem to
be available, probably even from NAPA.

Ideas appreciated. I know it will cost a bit, but compared to a new one, it
will be less, and I like this old gal. If the back half checks out, I may
spring for it. I'm guessing $500. Anyone know the real price?

Steve

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Wild_Bill

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Nov 23, 2010, 2:12:22 AM11/23/10
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You might as well start out with standard practices..

#1 - a compression check. Most everyone thinks they know how, but look it up
so you don't do it wrong.. which can be very misleading.

Seals can be replaced without an overhaul. Trouble is, ya might find scored
journals and bearings.
But if the journals and bearings are in good condition, keep everything very
clean during reassembly, and all should be fine (assuming the compression
check was good.

Plasti-gage optional, and a good idea.

If journals are scored (no plasti-gage required to determine that they need
replaced), the crank should be ground undersize to spec for undersize
bearings.

Then buy the correct bearings and proceed by keeping everything very clean
during the reassembly.
Plasti-gage is a good method of double-checking accuracy before closing up
the crankcase and running the engine only to find out it cranks too slowly,
or there are knocking noises.

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Gunner Asch

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Nov 23, 2010, 3:20:09 AM11/23/10
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$500 for what? The seals? $75 at most for all the seals you are gonna
need and then some.

Gunner

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Snag

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Nov 23, 2010, 7:18:21 AM11/23/10
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I think he meant a total rebuild - rings , rods & mains , seals , maybe an
overbore and pistons depending on taper and OOR . That's a flathead isn't it
? Might need valves/guides and a set of hard seats too . Not sure if
flatties even have valve guide seals ...

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Steve B

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Nov 23, 2010, 10:28:14 AM11/23/10
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"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:39:16 -0800, "Steve B"
> <pittma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>My SA200 is leaking oil from front and rear seals. Will probably put an
>>additive in there, but am not expecting a lot. Has anyone rebuilt one of
>>these four bangers? Doesn't look like anything complicated. I've rebuilt
>>about half a dozen V-8's in my life, the old 283/327 Chevies. Parts seem
>>to
>>be available, probably even from NAPA.
>>
>>Ideas appreciated. I know it will cost a bit, but compared to a new one,
>>it
>>will be less, and I like this old gal. If the back half checks out, I may
>>spring for it. I'm guessing $500. Anyone know the real price?
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>Heart surgery pending?
>>Read up and prepare.
>>Learn how to care for a friend.
>>http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
>>
> $500 for what? The seals? $75 at most for all the seals you are gonna
> need and then some.
>
> Gunner

Gasket set, new mains, seals, rod bearings. Might as well go through it
while it's apart.

Steve


Steve W.

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Nov 23, 2010, 2:03:01 PM11/23/10
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http://www.motorpower.net/pricing/f163.html

$415.00

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RBnDFW

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Nov 23, 2010, 2:43:08 PM11/23/10
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IIRC those had a water jacket manifold that would deteriorate over time.

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Jim Chandler

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Nov 23, 2010, 3:46:18 PM11/23/10
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:03:01 -0500, "Steve W." <csr...@NOTyahoo.com>
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Actually, the front and rear main seals can usually be replaced
without tearing the engine apart. See if you can get aservice manual
on the vehicle and look at the procedure. Generally speaking the
front seal is pulled out and the replacement is driven in with a
driver or appropriately sized socket. The rear main is pretty much
the same.

Jim

Steve B

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Nov 23, 2010, 4:48:57 PM11/23/10
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"Steve W." <csr...@NOTyahoo.com> wrote in message
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Thx. My $500 SWAG was close. By the time I replace everything I want to
do, I'll probably be in it $750.

Steve


Steve B

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Nov 23, 2010, 4:51:43 PM11/23/10
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"Jim Chandler" <n4...@gte.net> wrote in message
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Hmm.. Interesting. Is that with the engine in place? I haven't looked at
it. Can you drop the pan without having to jack up the engine and take the
motor mounts off, or separate from the generator? I know the old Chebbies
had a rope seal that you could pull through with a piece of aircraft cable
that came with the kit. Doing those two without doing everything else would
be a nice alternative.

Steve


Stormin Mormon

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Nov 25, 2010, 10:40:12 PM11/25/10
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What kind of engine is that? Is it a vehicle, a ATV, lawn mower, or
what? And what brand, how many CID, etc?

The one time I needed seals on a Dodge 6 cylinder, I did them myself.
Learned a lot, but didn't do much improvement to the leak rate.

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DON SCHMIDT SCHMIDTY F163

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Jan 17, 2021, 12:18:06 PM1/17/21
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replying to Steve B, DON SCHMIDT SCHMIDTY F163 wrote:
I HAVE REBUILT ABOUT 500 F163'S WHEN I WORKED AT VALLEY ENGINE IN CINCINNATI
OHIO FROM 1966 TO 1992 I WAS THE SUPERVISOR FOR THE CONTINENTAL ENGINE
REBUILDING DIVISON

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Horacio

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Dec 23, 2021, 3:18:24 AM12/23/21
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replying to DON SCHMIDT SCHMIDTY F163, Horacio wrote:
Don, are you currently offering rebuilding services for the F163?

Horacio

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Dec 23, 2021, 3:18:29 AM12/23/21
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replying to DON SCHMIDT SCHMIDTY F163, Horacio wrote:
Don, are you currently rebuilding the F163's?
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