Hardwood Flooring
Joe AutoDrill
unfinished wood flooring other than the obvious work involved in finishing
the raw stuff?
I'm thinking total cost and durability, etc.
I'm told pre-finished lasts longer but is tougher to install... But I'm
doing the install so...
Pergo and other "fake stuff" is NOT for me so don't bother telling about it.
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of subscribed newsgroups. The rest is history.
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> Disrgard. rec.woodworking is right below rec.crafts.metalworking on my list
> of subscribed newsgroups. The rest is history.
Although if you really want durability, tongue & groove 304 stainless
may be the way to go.
Polish to a _high_ shine.
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Joe AutoDrill
> be the way to go.
Trust me, if I were single, I'd seriously consider it or some custom made
stainless tiles.
Ade
>
> > Although if you really want durability, tongue & groove 304 stainless may
> > be the way to go.
>
> Trust me, if I were single, I'd seriously consider it or some custom made
> stainless tiles.
C-c-c-c-c-c-c-old on the feet... I've got a steel floor in the workshop
and it's a bugger in the winter.
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Ignoramus8345
>> Although if you really want durability, tongue & groove 304 stainless may
>> be the way to go.
>
> Trust me, if I were single, I'd seriously consider it or some custom made
> stainless tiles.
Could change a minor electrical accident into a major one, if you are
standing on stainless floor barefoot and get "zapped" due to faulty
insulation or some such.
i
Tim Wescott
OTOH, with stainless flooring and copper ceilings, you could get some
old bumper cars for the romper room.
Jim Stewart
> Joe AutoDrill wrote:
>> Disrgard. rec.woodworking is right below rec.crafts.metalworking on
>> my list of subscribed newsgroups. The rest is history.
>
> Although if you really want durability, tongue & groove 304 stainless
> may be the way to go.
>
> Polish to a _high_ shine.
Fastened with socket head capscrews every 12 inches.
Pete C.
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
>
> Any advantage of one or the other when considering pre-finished VS
> unfinished wood flooring other than the obvious work involved in finishing
> the raw stuff?
>
> I'm thinking total cost and durability, etc.
>
> I'm told pre-finished lasts longer but is tougher to install... But I'm
> doing the install so...
>
> Pergo and other "fake stuff" is NOT for me so don't bother telling about it.
Some thoughts:
Factory applied finishes are more consistent and don't stink up the
house.
Pre-finished relies on an even subfloor for an even finish, while
unfinished is sanded in place so an uneven subfloor can be compensated
for.
So called "Engineered hardwood flooring" is not "fake" and may be worth
considering. It is essentially plywood with the top layer the expensive
hardwood and the lower layers of cheaper woods.
Other stuff such as bamboo flooring is also worth a look, it is
engineered, but available as full dimensional like traditional hardwood.
Michael A. Terrell
Tim Wescott wrote:
>
> Ignoramus8345 wrote:
> > On 2010-03-26, Joe AutoDrill <auto...@yunx.com> wrote:
> >>> Although if you really want durability, tongue & groove 304 stainless may
> >>> be the way to go.
> >> Trust me, if I were single, I'd seriously consider it or some custom made
> >> stainless tiles.
> >
> > Could change a minor electrical accident into a major one, if you are
> > standing on stainless floor barefoot and get "zapped" due to faulty
> > insulation or some such.
>
> OTOH, with stainless flooring and copper ceilings, you could get some
> old bumper cars for the romper room.
Wait a few years and you'll get a great deal on hybrid cars with bad
batteries. Then add you own brushes. ;-)
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Joe AutoDrill
I've always wanted to design stainless steel or aluminum "blocks" about the
size of retaining wall blocks to be used in that very purpose. I thought it
would be neat to have a steel wall for landscape rather than the concrete
"rock" stuff that's out there... But I can't figure out a way to design it
to look nice.
I've got a supplier who can make them and ship them, but... I don't have
the design and maybe more importantly, the cash. :)
Tim Wescott
> As a side note to this whole conversation...
>
> I've always wanted to design stainless steel or aluminum "blocks" about the
> size of retaining wall blocks to be used in that very purpose. I thought it
> would be neat to have a steel wall for landscape rather than the concrete
> "rock" stuff that's out there... But I can't figure out a way to design it
> to look nice.
>
> I've got a supplier who can make them and ship them, but... I don't have
> the design and maybe more importantly, the cash. :)
>
Cast stainless, with bumps on the same order of size as concrete, would
be neato-coolo.
But everyone would consider it trashy, unless you had a PhD in fine art
-- anything done in stainless by someone with a PhD in fine art is
automatically the Coolest Damn Thing in the World.
Pete C.
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
>
> As a side note to this whole conversation...
>
> I've always wanted to design stainless steel or aluminum "blocks" about the
> size of retaining wall blocks to be used in that very purpose. I thought it
> would be neat to have a steel wall for landscape rather than the concrete
> "rock" stuff that's out there... But I can't figure out a way to design it
> to look nice.
>
> I've got a supplier who can make them and ship them, but... I don't have
> the design and maybe more importantly, the cash. :)
Think "sheet pilings"...
Joe AutoDrill
I think it would oxidize white or close to it... In some locales, that could
work.
Of course, I could ahve them anodized in some other color and move when they
start to "fade"
Joe AutoDrill
I was thinking more along the lines of metal blocks... Semi-random shapes
and sizes to look sorta like this:
http://www.ferrellbrick.com/products/Armour%20Stone%20retaining%20wall.JPG
But in metal of course.
Lay it out in CAD and have 'em cast / made, etc.
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dan
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by Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:05:54 -0500:
>Other stuff such as bamboo flooring is also worth a look, it is
>engineered, but available as full dimensional like traditional hardwood.
Bamboo is not as hard as oak and will get marked up in short order.
Friend of mine has it (wife wanted it for the green angle) and regrets
it.
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dan
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
>I'm told pre-finished lasts longer but is tougher to install... But I'm
>doing the install so...
Pre finished will have chamfered edges and leave a v groove between
planks. Grooves will fill with dirt and are hard to clean.
Un finished will be sanded in place and won't need chamfered edges.
Larry Jaques
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Hmm, it shows up as about 25% harder, 1762 vs 1260.
http://www.bamboo-flooring-facts.com/bamboo_flooring_janka_hardness.htm
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dan
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I don't know what to tell you. Just that the bamboo floor in my
friends house looks like crap after two years, and the oak floor that
he put in his prior house looked great after 10+years. Perhaps he got
low quality flooring?
Pete C.
It's certainly a possibility. It's a relatively new product, so I expect
there would be some early shake-out of the lower quality producers.
Larry Jaques
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>What's that Lassie? You say that Larry Jaques fell down the old
>rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
>by Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:34:01 -0700:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:13:10 GMT, the infamous no...@privacy.net (dan)
>>scrawled the following:
>>
>>>What's that Lassie? You say that Pete C. fell down the old
>>>rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
>>>by Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:05:54 -0500:
>>>
>>>>Other stuff such as bamboo flooring is also worth a look, it is
>>>>engineered, but available as full dimensional like traditional hardwood.
>>>
>>>Bamboo is not as hard as oak and will get marked up in short order.
>>>Friend of mine has it (wife wanted it for the green angle) and regrets
>>>it.
>>
>>Hmm, it shows up as about 25% harder, 1762 vs 1260.
>>http://www.bamboo-flooring-facts.com/bamboo_flooring_janka_hardness.htm
>
>
>I don't know what to tell you. Just that the bamboo floor in my
>friends house looks like crap after two years, and the oak floor that
>he put in his prior house looked great after 10+years. Perhaps he got
>low quality flooring?
Perhaps. How/why did the bamboo look bad? Was it dark and they put
light scratches in it and didn't refinish, or what?
dan
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
>>I don't know what to tell you. Just that the bamboo floor in my
>>friends house looks like crap after two years, and the oak floor that
>>he put in his prior house looked great after 10+years. Perhaps he got
>>low quality flooring?
>
>Perhaps. How/why did the bamboo look bad? Was it dark and they put
>light scratches in it and didn't refinish, or what?
Dents. Where the sofa feet rest on it, there is indentations.
As you sit on the sofa you might move it a little, and then you get
elongated dents. The sofa feet aren't overly small for the weight
either. There are other dents not where the sofa is but aren't as
bad... they may be from high heals.
dan
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
>In <g36rq5lrka1h3givo...@4ax.com>, on Fri, 26 Mar 2010
>22:34:01 -0700, Larry Jaques, lja...@diversify.invalid wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:13:10 GMT, the infamous no...@privacy.net (dan)
>> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>What's that Lassie? You say that Pete C. fell down the old
>>>rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
>>>by Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:05:54 -0500:
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>>Bamboo is not as hard as oak and will get marked up in short order.
>>>Friend of mine has it (wife wanted it for the green angle) and regrets
>>>it.
>>
>> Hmm, it shows up as about 25% harder, 1762 vs 1260.
>> http://www.bamboo-flooring-facts.com/bamboo_flooring_janka_hardness.htm
>
> It was probably an engineered product which,
>according to your link, only rates out at 1690... and
>if it was carbonized at all, that further reduces
>hardness. At the other end of the spectrum is the
>stranded bamboo, which rates at 3014!
>
> Obviously, there are a LOT of variables in bamboo
>flooring. Species used, glue used, vertical or horiz
>orientation, carbonized or not, solid, engineered,
>or stranded... not to even mention installation
>methods and surface finishes.
>
That could be it. The 'planks' are made up of small strips. You have
too look real hard to see them. I'm not sure of the orientation of
the grain.
DanG
flooring, though I have no direct experience. We do have a
conventional maple gym floor that has a huge dent problem right
where the female coach travels up and down the side line in her
high heels ala Sherri Coale at OU.
http://ou.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2009/02/03/wbb3.jpg
We do have a light rubber mat under the chairs and the walk area,
but it appears it is not enough.
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Steve W.
> Dan, I've heard that there are different qualities of bamboo
> flooring, though I have no direct experience. We do have a
> conventional maple gym floor that has a huge dent problem right
> where the female coach travels up and down the side line in her
> high heels ala Sherri Coale at OU.
> http://ou.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2009/02/03/wbb3.jpg
>
> We do have a light rubber mat under the chairs and the walk area,
> but it appears it is not enough.
>
Replace the light rubber with some of the vented cattle mats. Maybe
after she falls on her butt a few time she'll learn....
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Steve W.
So Dan, Why are you wearing high heels in your "friends" house???
As for the couch, hit one of the box stores and buy some floor
protectors. They will spread the load and protect the floor.
Bamboo is VERY dependent on where it grew, what species, how they made
the actual flooring and what the finish is.
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I'll bet the OP did not get that many replies in the woodworking NG <G>
dan
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
>So Dan, Why are you wearing high heels in your "friends" house???
>
Ha Ha.
>As for the couch, hit one of the box stores and buy some floor
>protectors. They will spread the load and protect the floor.
I think they all ready did that.
>
>Bamboo is VERY dependent on where it grew, what species, how they made
>the actual flooring and what the finish is.
I guess they could have got a bad brand or a bad batch.
dan
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
>Dan, I've heard that there are different qualities of bamboo
>flooring, though I have no direct experience. We do have a
>conventional maple gym floor that has a huge dent problem right
>where the female coach travels up and down the side line in her
>high heels ala Sherri Coale at OU.
>http://ou.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2009/02/03/wbb3.jpg
>
>We do have a light rubber mat under the chairs and the walk area,
>but it appears it is not enough.
No flooring is indestructible. If you have a loose screw on a metal
chair your gonna get gouges.
Joe AutoDrill
You are incorrect.
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